>You have to pick a main and spend a minimum of 100 hours

>Only masochistic no lifers play this game.

Finally, the perfect game for me!

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>>379205693
>playing ranked in Xrd
Just find or make a lobby for your region nigga. You'll only play 5 frame delay Ky's that toss out greed servers all day in ranked.

>>379205693
This a Tekken thread?

>>379205693
>ranked
Doing it wrong

>>379205693
>ranked
confirmed for never playing the game

>>379206418
or better yet, play fucking local

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>A minimum of 100 hours to dream of winning

Have you tried looking around the character select screen OP?

I'm trying to learn Jam. I don't think I'll ever be good enough to take her online.

>>379208332
good enough to win a tournament highly unlikely good enough to taker her online well I gurantee there's people worse than you. As for me I've been learning Chipp and he's one of the hardest characters in the game. I'm primarily a Blazblue player and Guilty Gear isn't really my game. So I'm gonna learn Jam instead.

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This is not SF, no one plays ranked.

>>379207449
Shamefully that's not always possible. No one plays GG or fighting games in my area afaik and local scenes are completely unexistent.

>>379208332
>I don't think I'll ever be good enough to take her online.
Definitely not, because unless you play people you'll never actually learn. Everyone loses at the begining, there's no reason to be so scared. Just endure the loses and enjoy yourself.

>>379208507
But to add on to this I think this game is pretty hard. I don't think I'll play Jam. I think Jam is pretty difficult execution wise. I still haven't found the right character for me. I played a little May, Raven, Slayer, Axl and Ky but I didn't like them enough.

>>379209520
>This is not SF

Damn right it's not SF, with SF anyone familiar with fighting games can jump straight in and feel at home and immediately start to have fun. GG actively punishes you until you've put 100 hours into training and another 100 in practice against other people. The idiots developing this game has created a sub-niche title in an already niche genre, no fucking wonder it never gets picked up in tournaments and barely anyone plays it.

>>379209520
I've been playing Ranked all week. It's nice to play because you can train and work on your character while you wait plus it has a rematch button now so if you find a legit opponent you can play as long as you please. On ranked I've been playing a lot of Baiken and some Jam, Sol, Raven and Leo.

>>379209973
Nobody has fun with SFV tho.

The diversity of the roster is so satisfying after how similar everything feels in SFV. It's easy to train with one character for a long time in GG because when you find your main, it really clicks and feels special

>Machaboo semi-quitting GG for SFV because no one is willing to sponsor him.
Feels bad man

The game is just too daunting for newcomers, the tutorial in Xrd is pretty good but the timings are incredibly tight, Also I can't recommend this game for anyone who doesn't have a stick. I'm serious, if you don't have a stick don't even bother playing this, it's not worth it.

>>379211000
This is the first time I ever heard anyone say to stop playing Guilty Gear because of their controller

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>buy GG
>watch the story mode
>never touch it again
that's how you win. sometimes you can even just watch it on youtube and not waste $60

>>379210528
Nah, he's just giving SFV some more focus.

>>379211353
I'm already 75% of the way through story mode. I still haven't touched it after that cringy part where Sol cried about his wife.

If you want to play anime street fighter just play UNIEL Super Turbo when it comes out and get mad at the gigantic normals that game has.

>>379209520
You're right, no one plays at all.

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>>379211567
>Sol
>cringy
Please don't bully him

Going to have to agree with OP. Guilty Gear has to be more difficult to learn than Tekken and Street Fighter combined. It's an overly technical mess.

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>>379211603
>Instead of playing this niche game you should play this other niche game that has even less people playing

>>379212804
If you don't like the way one game plays you should look for other games.

>>379205693
Git gud faggot. I won my first ranked match after getting a few rounds of practice against a random Potemkin player I met in the lobby. Thanks to him I got a better understanding of how matches with real people are and that led to my first ranked win. I've only got about 50 hours put into this game.

>>379207817
I play Sin and have to inform you that it takes massive skill to not shred the skin off my left thumb while spamming beak driver

Trying to do half the combos on a PS4 controller murders my fingers

>>379213540
you and me both

Is Ram trash?

>>379205693
Its just a dumbed down Bloody Roar, now with more stolen Vampire Savior characters.

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>>379213749
Ram is mid

>>379206418
>my region always has 0 players

>>379212281
I'd say Tekken is a lot harder to get good at. Its easier to pick up though, while GG has a higher skill entry barrier.
>>379207817
Beakwinder loops are hard.

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>>379214087
>Tekken is a lot harder to get good at

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>>379211000
I've been a stick player in fighting games for as long as I remember, and I still get my ass kicked by my friend who does well in locals and plays only with pad.

Also he's a Jam player.

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> Go to local
> My second match on winning bracket
> For some reason the guy is unable to do anything against Sol's riot stamp
> Realize I'm relying on this too much and try to play regularly
> I'm about to win, but he almost catches me up
> Do the riot stamp, he loses
> When we shake hand he tells me he had the impression that I always did the same move

I never play like this because I hate this, and I feel guilty for this moment but I lost against people like that in locals an incredible amount of time

>>379214350
Dennis?

>>379214314
It is actually. Why do you think those autistic Koreans like it?

>>379205693
This is not an argument almost every fighting ga me requires hundreds of hours of practice

so wait (yeah I know >story shit but) is Ky confirmed stronger than Sol now in Rev 2 or did I read into the story wrong

>>379214561
Put some effort into your bait

>>379214561
They like it because the characters resemble the plastic surgicle look they all aspire to have.

How's everyone liking their main changes? main Jack-o with Ky on the side and I'm pretty happy. I though the ghost changes where going to hurt her a lot more but the increase to meter gain makes the rushdown game a lot more reliable and I'm actually getting a lot of use of the explosion. Overall she feels more consistent.
Ky is Ky and he gets +10 points for the changed animation on 6H.

>>379214703
I'm not the one posting with reaction images as an actualy retort though. Maybe if you had an actual argument on why you think GG is harder to get good at, people will take you seriously. Not everyone is trying to "bait" you, autismo.
>>379214710
Only true for women.

>Tfw been playing fighting games casually for ages and still have no clue about half the things you can do in GG

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>>379205693
I just want to state the obvious and say that this is a shitty thread

>>379214656
Ky holds back in their duels because he's a brutal killer and doesn't want to take it that far. Sol also has to hold back, or he'll lose control and won't be able to return to his normal self. They both have incredible potential that they restrain, so we don't know who is stronger

>>379214656
Sol is still much stronger, Ky just has gear aids

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>>379214810
Might just switch back to Jack-O if she's better in Rev 2. I mained her for a majority of Revelator since I wanted a low-execution barrier character who was mostly fundamentals but learning advanced combos ended up being intimidating for me due her goons feeling so unpredictable. I switched to Baiken in Rev 2 cause she was always my favorite pre-Xrd but I worry she's not that great right now even if she's similarly mostly fundamentals-based (and her combos are really easy for me to do). I think I need to make Jack-O fun for myself.

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>>379214810
She got two useless moves. Her neutral game is awful, but I can't leave her

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>>379215248
>Jack-O
>fundamentals

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>>379215098
Honestly I don't know if I should believe the "HE GOT GEAR AIDS FROM DIZZY" theory or the "HE CUT OUT SIN'S OTHER EYE" theory. Both are dumb

>>379215248
You really just have to react as ghost the extend combos. There's a few corners loops that can be consistently done with the right ghosts in position but a lot of combos have to be created on the fly as you move around the screen as a ghost move around.

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>>379214810
It's nice having a usable 2HS now.
Backspin is fun too.

>>379215550
I guess fundamentals is the wrong word; what I mean is I don't need to learn incredible combos to push my advantage. If I recall they even made Jack-O to be somewhat beginner friendly, it's just that once you get into the advanced stuff there's such a massive skill gap cause she's so multifaceted.

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>>379205693

>>379214810
6H > microdash c.S pressure as Ky
Lovin it.

>>379215928
They made Jack'O to be have tower defense gimmicks, there was nothing about being beginner friendly. She needs to work hard and a lot of characters can run all over her if you aren't on point with your house control.
If you want a character that chips away with constant small combos, play Dizzy. She has the same lame "run away and throw shit" gameplan as Jack'O but without micromanagement.

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>>379214810

>>379216257
Dizzy is hard or so I heard. I went to the discord and practice an instant air dash combo and I couldn't get it to work for the life of me.

>>379216668
Every character is going to be hard.
You need to practice. It took me a good 2-3 hours of just solid repetition to get the timing down for some of my alt's combos (May). But I sat down and I kept at it until it became muscle memory. There are no easy ways out. Even characters like Leo, Sin and Raven will get stomped by someone who knows how to play if you're just hitting buttons. There is no way to avoid straight up repetition and practice if you're going to learn how to play.

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I love playing a lot of the cast, from unga bunga Leo, to sol, ram, and Slayer.

I love the game but i can never find enough players, the only guy i can play reguraly plays johnny exclusvely and gets salty whenever i win or charge characters.

When you guys say discord you mean this right?

http://www.dustloop.com/forums/index.php?/forums/topic/12706-ggxrdr-character-discord-servers/

>machabo is no longer focusing on GG because it doesn't pay the bills and is now focusing on SFV to get sponsored

>>379218396
>don't even know who I want to play so character discords are useless
>can only keep up the online grind until something clicks

>>379205693
>>You have to pick a main and spend a minimum of 100 hours to even dream of winning a single match in ranked.

That's how all fighting games are.

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>spends 100 hours learning your character in and out
>HEY NEW PATCH IN 6 MONTHS WITH BALANCE AND MOVESET CHANGES
>HEY NEW MECHANICS YOU'LL HAVE TO LEARN
>HEY NEW CANCER CHARACTERS THAT YOU'LL HAVE TO PLAY AGAINST
>proceed to throw everything I learned in the garbage

Can we go back in time where fighting games didn't have a patch every 4 months and survived more than 2 months in the FGC?

>>379214485
one of the biggest things in anything competitive is taking advantage of weaknesses or playing mind games. If you let guilt get in the way, you'll never progress further.

>>379220382
People would have to be patient/develop tech on their own rather than whine endlessly until something with a potentially simple workaround gets gutted in the game's infancy.

>>379219029
Who are you playing now?
Took me a good while to finally choose one starting from reload to rev 2. Played Ky, Chipp, Baiken, Slayer, Venom, Axl. Order Sol, Robo-Ky until I finally picked Faust since I really enjoy having far reaching normals(Axl didn't click with me) and play rushdown. That said though I dropped Faust for Sin since I wanted to play a new character for Xrd.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AGHGEttNjyo

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>>379220382
>started in early 2017
>just got fire IV with BLM
>rotation and everything changes in a few weeks

oh well, glad I didn't bother getting cross class skills

>>379220382
The patches don't seem like huge groundbreaking changes just some adjustments to framedata and maybe a new command normal. When a patch comes out in Blazblue every single bnb you worked on becomes worthless. It's a night and day difference.

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>>379220382
>Can we go back in time where fighting games didn't have a patch every 4 months and survived more than 2 months in the FGC?
We'll always have pick related.

>>379220867
He said fighting games.

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>>379220382
You sound like you don't actually play fighting games.

Somebody make a lobby already

>>379205693
>dated mechanics
Like?
Also you're just shit at the game. I won my first match.

>>379220824
Nigga you knew from SB streams that they were gonna change combat after its release

>>379206418
>live in Texas
>no one is EVER playing in my region.

I just wanna show everyone my cool Slayer combos.

>>379221067
I know but what the fuck am I supposed to do?

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>it's another "anon has to face the reality that he's not as hardcore as he thinks" episode

>>379220658
ky mostly, but I'm not that interested in him. I'm just doing it because he's got a basic bit of everything and I can turtle up when I need to be defensive and I have a button or 2 to press when I think I can get something out of it. I also rotate in sol and faust for those reasons but again, I'm not that interested in either.

I've watched all the core a and GGCC videos, and keep trying really hard to think about what I want to do while playing and I'm still drawing blanks. I always end up on the defensive and lose most of my fights and most of my meter is wasted on constant FD.

>>379221105
relearn like everybody else, some will have an easier time but we all gotta deal

>>379220926
Not him, but UMVC3 then.
Speaking of which, I remember everybody crying constantly about wesker in the beginning, then he dropped down to "solid character, now we know how to deal with him" because Disney refused to allow the game be touched again and people had to deal with it.

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BRIDGET
WHEN
Found fun with Millia so I'll just main her.

>>379221548
I'll forgive you this one time for mistakenly saying Bridget when you meant to say Anji

>>379221161
This is the reason most people suck at fighting games. Not becuase of the combos or the execution, it's because they completely fail to understand the mental parts of playing fighting games like reading your opponents, adjusting to their playstyle and doing mid games.

>>379221548
thank you anime trap

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>>379221642
I actually meant A.B.A

>>379221506
Closer, you mentioned a fighting game but god damn your first reaction is really marvel?
I'm thinking more Garou. A game with tons of tech, it's been solved for ages and is balanced beautifully.

>>379221161
Honestly, I wouldn't recommend anyone get into fighters these days unless they have some dedicated friends that want to play with them.

>>379221643
For one reason or another, this mindset is too common and spreads like wildfire, especially around other people looking to get into a game.

>>379221221
You sound like someone who'd enjoy doing counters. I would have suggested Baiken if not for the fact that doing red Azami sucks. I'd instead try to and say Sol, since he has a ton of ways to get out of pressure (DP, Riot Stomp (YRC), Grand Viper, Dragon Install YRC)

>>379221221
> I always end up on the defensive and lose most of my fights and most of my meter is wasted on constant FD.
Remember you have options like Blitz Shield/Dead Angle Attack

>>379205693
heh, git gud fagget

Currently have a 61 lose streak Should I just give up on fighting games

>playing Gildy Geer xrd sign 2 revitavisadashalator
>still no Testament

Fuck you.

>>379222257
Rip Shonen

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>>379221816
I'm in an Infinite thread right now too, give me a break.

>>379221939
Most of the time I've been pressured, I've just been so concerned with getting out of their P/K/c.S ranges that I just want to push them out.
I've had a blitz attempt blown up by a leo who saw it coming and I've been deathly afraid ever since. No real excuses though, I need to remember them more.

>>379221903
Yeah, sol is in my rotation, but I'm not that drawn to playing him for long stretches of time for some reason. Honestly I hate it, I wish I liked one of them more, but I don't.

I'm on PS4 and in Texas, but if anyone wants a few rounds then I can make a room, at the very least to show you how bad I am.

>>379222252
losing it part of the process.
you can be a quitter or you can be a loser. it's your decision

>>379222459
Ya it's just so demoralizing

>>379205693
>Anything that isn't as brain dead simple as SFV is shat on
>No one plays SFV because people hate that too

Ok.

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>>379220926

>>379223019
making a fighting game "more accessible" is the worst strategy a developer could possibly execute
People who actually like fighting games will find it too shallow and casuals will still find it too hard.
Better to just grip your niche market and hang on for dear life

>>379205693
Tekken is even more autistic than that and more people play it.

>>379214810

Raven is FUN

>>379210528
Good fuck him and fuck Sin

>>379205693
Casuals picking up a fighting game need to understand that they are fodder for the people that have been playing the series they picked up for multiple installments. This will never change, there will never be a good fighting game that a casual can just pick up thirsting for praise trying to act like some big dick OG that can punish everything. All casuals and beginners are to most skilled people, even mid-cards playing these games, are free rank points as they climb their ladder.

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>>379205693
>ranked
Nice try.
>>379214485
You should never feel bad for spamming. If the move keeps hitting, keep using it. If the opponent learns to block, go for a mixup. It's as simple as that.
>>379215678
It's the Sin/Ky Eye transplant one. Sin's eyes not only generate a shit ton of power, but it caused him to see crazy otherworldly visions that scared him shitless as a child. Ky asked Faust (who also helped Dizzy deliver Sin) to transplant one of his own eyes into Sin to help him control his power. Ky can handle the visions and Sin's covered eye is his original, the eye patch is similar to Sol's headband. Plus Sin's Gear Brand is on his iris, so the eye patch hiding that is key.

>>379223019
You don't understand they don't want to play something else.
They just want to hate SFV

>>379223976
By god he is so great. I was starting to get bored with him in Rev, but the new excitement changes make him so much more, well, exciting to play

>>379222252
Save replays and watch them. See where you're messing up. Me and a friend were switching off online matches all day yesterday and I saw a surprising number of people have a great execution on optimal combos but just had no idea how to open an opponent up or block properly. Watch your matches see what situations you're constantly getting opened up in. Keep in mind when you're getting high low mixed up or eating crossovers.
I know it sucks to lose but eventually you learn to block or counter a lot of the scenarios that fucked you and it feels great.

>>379220645
That's why I think this era of fighting game is complete shit. People complain and developpers actually listen to the shitters that don't even play the games seriously. And even then, shitters still complain.

>>379220867
Melee is honestly one of the most fun fighting game to watch. You can see how the meta evolved through the years. Yes, Fox is technically the best character in the game but he has obvious weaknesses and that's why he doesn't always win. That's what happens when you don't patch the game and instead, let the game flourish.

>>379220842
In Xrd, I agree with you that they're not big changes but it's still annoying nonetheless. Blazblue patches are complete cancer for that exact reason.

>>379221506
Remember when people were crying about Sentinel in vanilla and got nerfed the first week? That same week Justin Wong exposed every
single Sentinel at Final Round with Wolverine.

>>379220932
I've been playing competitively for more than a decade but ok.

>>379214810
Pretty sure Leo got nothing but nerfs so overall its the same gameplan as before, just can't unga as hard.

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>>379220867
Fucking no.

>>379224369

Everything about Raven is great, his animations, his personality, his voice, I love them all.

>>379224645
Unless your character has been nerfed to the ground, balance changes offer something new to play with if you've really sunk in a lot of time. Also, wanna show some proof you've been playing competitively?

>>379225068
HOL UP
IS THAT
A MOTHERFUCKIN

>>379205693
>playing ranked
some of us actually have friends and don't need to resort to online strangers to have someone to play with

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>>379225363
>some of us actually have friends and don't need to resort to online strangers to have someone to play with
>tfw you know ranked is shit but it's the only way to guarantee some matches

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>>379224343
>It's the Sin/Ky Eye transplant one
Was this discussed in one of the Overture short stories and I missed it? Sorry, I'm the kind of autist who doesn't like making theories in case I get proved wrong later on
>>379225121
Raven is not the good boy we need, but the one we deserve

>>379209973
good one, had me in stitches

>>379221548
thank you for the weird boner anime trap

I've been practicing Jam I've been having trouble with this combo where you combo into dp midscreen into a charged j.214k then you dash up and hit them with close slash into 2H and a parry. I don't think I'll be able to do this very much in actual matches. I practiced it a lot and I could land it maybe once in every 4 tries.

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>>379225738
It's been confirmed a few times over, but I think most notably was the GG Codex, which was a neat little art book/lore guide that came with the special edition of Xrd Sign. I have it on my bookshelf somewhere, so I'll double check. Other than that, Gear Cells require a special process to actually become part of another organism's DNA, it can't happen just by contact with body fluids like blood or semen. All Gear cells are is a magical Frankenstein cell made from all sorts of different combinations of life forms and animals to make a magically boosted life form. When merging it to already living tissue, there has to be some kind of biological or emotional (as in chemical) familiarity between the cells and the conversion target. This is why Chronus couldn't merge with Justice at the end of Xrd Sign, he's a complete stranger to Aria. This is mentioned many times throughout the series, but wasn't well explained until Sign.
t. storyteller

>>379221098
Texas has a pretty thriving local scene, anon. Why not go outside?

>>379226559
I'm in the middle of nowhere. Do you realize how big texas is? 3 hours to the closest thing I can call a scene and nobody in my immediate area is interested. I've been trying since high school. I've even tried using smash as bait to wean people in and got nothing.

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>>379226465
Thanks a bunch, my fellow lorefag. I didn't even know about the GG Codex and I feel kind of dumb now.

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>>379227182
Anytime, anon. Glad I could help.

>>379223987
He can pick Ky or Sol and he would still trash everyone.
>>379223773
Tekken has that normie appeal. My country grew up on Tekken so its huge here. Plus,you can mash buttons in Tekken and do cool things,unlike in 2D fighters.

>>379225163
>balance changes offer something new to play with

Why not settle for stability instead of changing everything? The most respected fighting games are the ones that didn't receive a billion changes and as result, had an evolved meta.
Having something new every 6 months is not needed most of the time and has a lot of negative effects on the competitive scene. People are fickle with the games because they're waiting for the next patches/games which, as a result, slow down the evolution of the game.

>wanna show some proof you've been playing competitively?
No? Of all places, why would I prove anything on here. I'm not retarded.

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>Bought Sign
>Had a great time playing with my friends
>Got slightly decent with Elphelt
>Bought Rev1
>None of my friends did
>Barely played it
>Contemplating getting Rev2 even though I know I have no friends to play it with

Is dizzy to hard for a noob?

>>379230162
Play whoever is your favorite. Guilty Gear has the best tutorial in all fighting games, so you can learn her.
Dizzy might be tough if you have little fighting game experience, but she's not the most complex

>>379230162
Against someone who knows how to play, everyone is going to be hard.
Choose who you like playing as, know that some characters like Zato or Venom have tech you need to learn to play them at a basic level so don't write everyone off immediately.
Play them for a bit, watch match footage to see if that gameplan interests you, and if it does, get to grinding out the tech and basic combos. Basic, simple stuff that leads into knockdown, you don't need to know 50% corner combos yet. Not for a while.

Then once you have a few simple strings ingrained in your head, do some matches and just work on getting over your nerves. It's going to take time and practice no matter what.

>>379208507
Is chip hard to get into? I fucking love that cringe ninja

>>379232227
yes he is
use chipp announcer and play someone else

>>379232227
I think he kinda is. I can do the jump installs and fd breaks and the wall cling oki most of the time but you die so fast so you can't make a lot of mistakes. He's hella fun though but when you play someone that knows how to fight Chipp you can't afford many mistakes.

>>379232327
Idk, my sis picked up sin pretty quick and started rekting the shit out our friends, I picked up chip in counter and did pretty good for noob.

>>379221098
I'm from texas and I always have one or two people with good connections on PC that show up when I make a lobby. You can also just join a west coast lobby if your connection isn't trash.

>>379205693
>rereleasing same game
>journalists gobble that shit up like a big black cock covered in chocolate
>literally just like 2 new characters
>charging 40 dolalrs

>>379232227
Pretty hard. You need to be spastic and unpredictable while applying unrelenting pressure. Having paper life means you have no room for mistakes.

If you want another ninja character thats easier to learn, there's Answer.

>>379220824
dude it literally takes 2-3 days to get good at a class in that game.