How come video game A.I. is still incompetent? Isn't there

Ai-chan is not for sexual.

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>>379205361

http://ecchi.iwara.tv/videos/jwzkpiexmiejrajp

>>379205269
Please delet this, Ai-chan is a pure hearted virgin.

>>379205269
People don't want smart Ai, they want Ai that is somewhat convincing. If it's too good, people get frustrated and accuse the game of being cheap.

>she's SUPPOSED to sound annoying!

lol ok weebs

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>>379205361
she's a slut
captcha america visitor, well lads

>>379205630
what do you expect? weebs have no standards they worship shit all the time because MUH WAIFU, manchildren are like that.

>>379205269
I don't remember this artist's name but God bless him.

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>>379205269
>as109
Nice.

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>>379205630
>women fictional or otherwise
>sounding annoying
Sounds normal to me.

>>379205630
It's like, just your opinion man.

>>379205446
Those are some weird, skewed fucking nipples.

>>379205269
cause it's very easy to make A.I. too hard

the only games that would benefit from machine learning and advanced AI are strategy games, all the enemies in action games are supposed to be dumb

>>379205269
Who's the artist for this?

>>379205269
nice art

>>379205630
I love anime grills and typical japanese humor, but i simply can't watch her videos. They're kinda boring desu.

>>379205446
MMD is so trash for porn. Thank god for SFM.

>>379205269
It's on purpose. Discounting shit like literal aimbots you could, for example, really easily program the AI in fire emblem to form up and target down one unit fairly reliably. Or you could make stealth game AI that isn't deaf and blind or doesn't forget a guy was killed after 30 seconds. However nobody wants that because then the game wouldn't be fun. Devs purposefully don't make the AI super good because it would suck to play against.

Most of the time they're just incompetent or lazy though. Shit like enemies just running towards you in a straight line, knowing where you are through walls, or other common shitty AI things are just because the devs didn't try.

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>>379205269
look OP, Alien Isolation is excellent game
and still people complain about it
just look how xenomorph learn through entire game, perfect A.I.
and they say it's only annoying

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>>379205847

>>379205269
the easy answer is that it's extremely difficult to make an AI that seems smart but is still beatable by humans
you could easily make enemies in an FPS act tactically and intelligently but it would be too overwhelming for most if not all players
keep in mind that AIs can process numbers better than a human, can aim better than a human, can react faster than a human, etc
if you really went loose and made the AI as good as possible it would be either unbeatable or require extreme "outside the box" tactics and/or glitches to beat

It's really easy to program an IA that will absolutely crush the player, after all it has access to the player's actions and even if it didn't it's really easy to make it so it makes always optimal decisions given the situation. But that wouldn't be fun at all to play against and borderline impossible to beat unless you abuse the game's glitches or overlooked gameplay mechanics.

The challenge is to make an AI that will make sub-optimal decisions that will give the player a chance to beat it while remaining challenging enough to be interesting to play against.

And I'm not even getting into how video games conventions expect enemies and bosses to have paterns or how an objectively crap AI can be really fun to play against, especially for casuals.

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>AI threads still on /v/

We, the userbase and the mods, all agreed that this belongs to /jp/, since you're wooing for a japanese idol, part of the otaku culture.

So, if you would be so kind
>>>/jp/

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>>379205269
>no left nipple

You people are mostly explaining why devs don't make AI very smart, but why not make AI very realistic, as in, characters acting like you would expect them to in the real world? I think HITMAN does a decent job of this currently.

>>379206772
isn't there a system for amiibo avatars in smash that learn more and more how to fight and at max level they are unstoppable?

>>379206913
stfu nerd

>>379206913
Including you, there's 4 posts mentioning her, the rest is on-topic.

>>379206950
I hate how stupid long her neck is

>>379205269
Videogame AI has progressed a whole lot, and can be really smart, but devs usually dumb it down so the player still feels in control. Smart AI could easily outplay the player, and unpredictable AI can feel cheap. Devs have to make an AI smart enough for the player to feel challenged, but dumb enough to still be beatable.

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Help me with my folder /v/ros

>>379205446
post something good instead, AI-chan doesnt deserve that garbage
https://chan.sankakucomplex.com/post/show/5942610

>>379205269

A.I. can't be too smart or people will get angry and say the game cheats. On that same token, if the A.I. is too dumb people will complain about how easy the game is.

When it comes to party members, game devs could make the A.I. ridiculously good, but then you get situations where fighting a really challenging boss revolves around you running in circles while your party members do most of the damage and mechanics (like in Dragon's Dogma). Unfortunately the easier route is to make the A.I. fucking retarded so Mitsuru full-heals Nyx Incarnation right before the last hit after spamming Ice Break for absolutely no fucking reason.

There are games with happy middles, but unless the A.I. can win the game for you we just say it's shit A.I.

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>>379207379
I'll post this one and only this one.

>>379206962
You are retarded
Character routines are basically hand placed animation and interaction cycles, there is no AI involved there almost ever.
AI aren't fucking advanced enough to actually interact with ingame environment on their own volition.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9bbhJi0NBkk

Is this correct

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>>379207752
>Cuck Brown

>>379207832
I don't know who that is. Umaru is cancer though

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>>379205361

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>>379207832

>>379206962
There are a couple of reasons

>AI acting realistically can be a huge fun killer, think stealth games
>Computing power is not unlimited and AI has to share with graphics, sound, physics, gameplay, memory management and many more and AI is far from being a top priority
>Lot of games would suck dick if AI was completely unpredictable every time you interact with it
>It's just easier to set up a multiplayer mode and players feel better when they beat another actual human being they can interact with instead of some shitty bot

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>>379205269
>as109

>>379207956
>>379207545
Post the maybe i've got something down there one.

>>379208042
I don't have it.

>>379206772
>It's really easy to program an IA that will absolutely crush the player, after all it has access to the player's actions and even if it didn't it's really easy to make it so it makes always optimal decisions given the situation. But that wouldn't be fun at all to play against and borderline impossible to beat unless you abuse the game's glitches or overlooked gameplay mechanics.
So like Quake III bots?

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>racing game
>AI rubberbands

>shooter game
>AI knows where you are at all times

>strategy game
>AI knows where you are and where everything they need is, and usually get bonuses to their resources as well

Bad AI is one thing, but cheating AI is fucking stupid and it needs to stop

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>>379207379

>>379206995
The even lazier way is to give them a total weakness such that player error is mitigated if they exploit the weakness.

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>>379205446
>why no one translate Rustle anymore?

>>379205269
I remember in Skyrim that even the NPCs AI were incompetent as hell.

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>>379206913

God I love this artist
His rape donjins are pretty realistic , perfectly represent real rape

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>>379208112
>>379208042

>>379208242
dude.. is that a... jojo reference?

>>379205269
Consoles.

>>379208168
There's a very delicate line between balanced AI and broken AI, in both directions. It's so difficult and requires such finesse and tweaking that generally it's easier to go with rubberbanding, omniscience, or braindead easiness.

AI's incredibly hard to not fuck up. People praise FEAR's AI when it's actually not any different from, well, half life 2 is the best example I have in mind at the moment. The only thing that makes FEAR stand out is the soundbytes they attach to certain triggers/flags in areas. Throw a grenade, the enemy says "woah a grenade", even if it's nowhere in their view, and you're trying to boom yourself. It's hilarious.

>>379206772
Depends on the game type. The reason AI in Grand Strategy and RTS game sucks because it's really not there yet, and developers do make the AI the best they possibly can yet it's still garbage. Shooters are largely dependent on accuracy which AI can execute to a degree close to 100%, if the developers want to make them literal aimbots.

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>>379207379
AI chan is a miracle of the universe.

>>379207956

Best part is the sender's age being 56.

>>379208242

I heard the acoustic guitar.

>>379208003
Computing power is not even a problem here. The problem is that it's a bitch to even create a theoretical system that would work, let alone fucking write it.
Despite this there are some games showing off cool AI shit.
For example FEAR's enemies work as squads against you and can create cover by kicking over stuff.
Another great example would be Alien Isolation with its simulated (not real) learning player tactics system

>>379208557
I want to fuck AI chan

>>379208813

How do you fuck a sequence of 1s and 0s?

>>379208534
Fun fact: the replicants in FEAR have only 3 states: move, shoot and interact with environment (kick over stuff to create cover). They also do work as a squad

>>379208937
Sequentially.

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>>379208937
Some day it will be possible. Some day.

>>379205269
the objective of the vidya is is to lose to the player
if you make something too good, they will not be able to beat the thing

>>379208937
frequently

>>379209027
>that expression + heart pupils
MUUUH

>>379209027
delete this

>>379208937

Fuck the hole in the zeros

Simultaneously

>>379207379
http://www.mediafire.com/file/g8ar1qbacs9fqj5/AI+Channel.7z

>>379208718
I think you are underestimating the computing power required to make a complex autonomous decision making AI capable to pass for a human. And again keep in mind that even if you went for the low hanging fruit and came up with smplified shit you still have to convince the producer that those 3 frames per seconds the team could spend on fancy cloth physics will be better on AI.

Also it's always the same games that are brought when talking about AI done right, nobody ever talks about how some RPGs managed to give you belivable party members or how some recent infamous 3rd person shooters feature AI that reacts realistically according to the situation.

>>379209369
Thank you

is A.I. Channel a real AI or just a fat japanise neckbeard?

>>379209936
It's probably a cute grill underneath the mocapping.

>>379209936

Fat japanese landwhale

>>379205446
>>379207440
These are both awful.

>>379209936
A.I is just a girl with a FaceRig but she's not even tech savy enough to use it alone.
There is a rumor that she is fat but there not a lot of evidences behind it.

>>379209679
The real problem in AI creation is creating the theoretical system (most games just use the engine's prebuilt AI). That's why not many games advertise their AI. AI calculation is dirt cheap when compared to stuff like graphics, etc, because it's just some simple logic (many incredible AIs are actually pretty simple. It's just that creating the theoretical model for it is hard. Examples: Alien Isolation, FEAR, etc.)

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>Ai-chan
>Not even an AI, just facerig

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What did she mean by this?

>>379211612
She's into period blood enemas.

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>>379208937

You have to get your dick digitalized; only a cyber-dick can fug an AI.

>>379210363

I doubt she's fat, but I can almost guarantee she has those fucked up Jap teeth.

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>>379212163
One digitized dick coming right up.

>>379212653
Can I use my Power Glove too to accomplish this?

>>379212653
>vr 2d

>>379212772
It's the preferred method.

>>379212653
>fapped to this one doujin years ago where a kid gets a VR headset which teleports him to a game (or maybe it wasn't a game at all) where he's a grill with huge tiddies, prompting him to masturbate almost instantly
>never found it again, didn't even finish it so i can't pinpoint what happened
Fuck me. Pretty sure it had 'virtual' somewhere in the title but i can't find it.

>>379213303
I'm pretty sure the doujin you're describing is the same doujin that picture was taken from.
(Katou Jun) - Avatar Trans

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>>379212163
>Implying

>>379213452
Shit, thanks anon.

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>>379210564
>Download some random MMD model
>Setup a facerig and voice changing software
>Lure millions of pathetic NEETs to your boring LP channel and rake in the shekels

Is Ai-chan /ourguy/?

>>379215453
>voice changing software
I don't really get why you need to pretend that when there is more evidences that she is some girl who can't even use FaceRig alone.
It's a bit ridiculous.