>Dropped the first one 2 hours in >Still playing the second

Your game is shit shill

>>379194420
They're both good. Why cant we ever say they're both good?

>>379194505
Because all fanboys are retarded.

>>379194505
>Why cant we ever say they're both good?
Because this is /v/. It's a board about establishing your identity and superiority through things you arbitrarily hate and people you intentionally piss off. Most people here don't play games, those who do don't pay any attention to them, and don't really reflect them once they put the controller down: the act of playing is just symbolic gesture before the real meat of the matter comes: the fucking edgyness of contrarian, angst, pissing off people, the shit-flinging.

Welcome to the youth culture 2017.

>>379194505
I didn't pay either game as they're easy to pirate.

So I have no obligation to either brand.

W3 is just boring man

Zelda has much better gameplay.

TW3 makes up for it in aesthetic, story, and graphics though.

>>379194835

Here come the flood of zelda fanatics. Reply after me will be

>witcher 3
>better story

>>379195042
What replies lol

>>379194420
I played Horizon and got the best of both worlds.

>>379194828
You've emulated BOTW for 80 hours? I doubt it

>>379194505
because old /v/ is still good and rightfully will say witcher 3 is a shit game. haven't played botw and probably never will

>Nintendo fans
>growing up
Pick one.

>>379195669
How's high school going for you, son?

>>379195664
>You've emulated BOTW for 80 hours? I doubt it
I have a top of the line pc and Zelda runs at 30 FPS, despite Nintendo fags lies

I just cleared the third divine beast

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>>379194420
All modern games are movies. Just let me play the fucking game. If it takes more than 5 min for me to start a new game and begin controlling the character i'm not interested. I don't want to watch a movie.

>>379195762
i'm fucking twenty-nine and i'm working at my shop

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>>379194420
>played the first Witcher for +200 hours
>played the second Witcher for +100 hours
>still playing Witcher 3 +400 hours
>stopped playing botw after 30 hours

>>379196067
30 hours is still pretty good, im glad you liked it :)

witcher 3 was always overrated garbage

just like crysis

honestly all of the most demanding games are lacking probably because they focused on making things look good instead of playing good

>>379194420
Both of them pretty good

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>>379196127
I did like it, but CEMU won't let me see the final cutscene

>>379196364
Did you use cemuhook?

It's fixed in 1.8.0 iirc

>>379196067
>Witcher 3
>350 hours of meaningless dialogue

>>379195042
nobody thinks that, not even zelda fanboys.

>>379196512

You must not have been watching these kinds of threads.

>>379195042
Story is useless on videogames

>>379196465
I'm using it and it crashes halfway through Zelda blasting Ganon's shit

>>379194420
>When did you grow out of graphics, /v/?
During the 5th gen when I realized I had more fun with my SNES games than with my PS games.

Can't we all just get along and admit each game has it's strengths and weaknesses?

>>379194420
But I really like both of those games...

>>379196067
>that flat texture chainmail
man graphics sure have come a long way

>>379194420
>>379196707

t. children

>>379194762
we're anon,
except for the whoring name/tripfaggots
what identity?

>>379196364
What kind of fps do you get?

>>379196836
People who grew up with the PlayStation are more than 20 now grandpa.

>>379197097
Tell me your specs and I'll tell you what fps YOU will get

>>379197038
>what identity?
Are you seriously asking this? Identity is 90% matter of self-esteem and self-perception. Anonymity has fuck all to do with this. Not to mention that the anonymity ITSELF is an identity, especially when associated with particular place and particular community.

>>379194762
>>379197342

How to spot reddit refugees in one easy step

>>379194505
Because, quite simply, the Witcher isn't.

>>379194505
because his pc can't run witcher 3, and he's stuck playing the most empty open world game since mafia 2.

>All this BOTW vs The Witcher posts
I thought this was a thread about graphics.

>>379197508
Ahahahahahahah you need a PC that runs w3 at 100fps to run Zelda at 30

I played the witcher 3 for 460 hours.

>>379197447
If that is what you need to tell yourself to rock yourself to sleep, sure. But thank you for proving my fucking point though.

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>>379194505
>expecting drones to enjoy games more than they enjoy instigating platform wars on /v/

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Is this worth playing in 2017?

Already played and beat TW3.

>>379197447
You did prove his point, I'm going to continue to support his claim by feeling superior to you

>>379195868
Except after 2 mins of seeing Yen's ass you immediately have control of Geralt? What game are you talking about? Because your gripe has nothing to do with either game.

Isn't the Witcher 3 actual shit, though? I thought the "consensus" was that the gameplay was nonexistent and that killed the game.

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>>379194420
I never did, you faggot.

>>379198231
>walking to the next cutscene is gameplay

>>379197236

No i mean, they are literally old manchildren

>>379197971
It... well it depends on your tolerance for bullshit. It's still probably the most "poetic" of the three games. It had some really good characters and choices-and-consequences too, though since then, the standards for those things have improved a lot and nowdays you'll find games that compare to it. I'd argue it has still the best atmosphere and some of the best environments of the entire series. Some parts of the game, notably the Murky Waters (fourth chapter) is amazing. Plus, it has some of the best quest design in the series.

But there is also a lot of clunk and a lot of bullshit in the game. The lack of experience shows, the game is littered with some bafflingly bad design decisions (while the environments are amazing, some of the monster and character design is ATTROCIOUS).

Most importantly though, the gameplay is pretty weak. Despite what will people tell you, TW1 is really damn shallow as an RPG, with insanely dull and shallow combat in particular. There is virtually no thought, no skill required to any of it - it's just a slog to play. It's also really poorly paced, so get ready for a LOT of downtime, fucking around and running back and forth between locations.

I love it, for the atmosphere, for the good characters and good quest design. If you like solid storytelling in RPG's, I'd say it's worth playing. But don't expect miracles, it's a really flawed gem.
Also the english voiceacting is awful.

>>379198482
It is. Everything else is fantastic though.

And imo 3's combat is an improvement over the previous two games.

>>379198676
For not caring about graphics?

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>>379197971
just play it on the easiest difficulty and enjoy the visuals, music, story, dialogues, etc, since the combat is shit

>>379198482
>I thought the "consensus" was that the gameplay was nonexistent and that killed the game.
You thought wrong. The gameplay is OK. Not amazing, not terrible, it's serviceable.
>>379198556
Yeah. Except after the tutorial/introduction, you are dumped into the first segment of the game where you can play very much uninterupted for hours before another story-segment that lasts about ten minutes, then it's back to tens of hours of largely uninterupted gameplay.

Seriously, what the fuck is wrong with you kids that you lose attention because you have to go through 20 minutes of introduction (including the optional tutorial that you can skip?). IN a fucking RPG none the less?

Seriously, the fuck?

>>379198754

No, you got it backwards, they care about graphics... Cartoony graphics, because it makes them feel like simple minded children. It makes them feel comfortable in their own skin. Familiarity

I never grew into them in the first place.

>>379199024
That's not what they said at all

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>>379194420
when i started playing roguelikes get on my level faggot.

>>379198682
>>379198918
Oh that's disappointing. I heard it's more of a true RPG, so I thought it'd make up for the rest of the game's roughness. Guess not?

>>379195812
>I just cleared the third divine beast
E I G H T Y H O U R S

>>379194505
>People on /v/ having/agreeing with an opinion that more than maybe one thing in a series is good?
Keep on dreamin'.

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>played the shit out of both
>thoroughly enjoyed myself the entire time

>>379199138
>more of a true RPG,
that's kinda what I said, the gameplay is shit, everything else is top notch, just like RPGs (not videogame "RPGs", in which there are numbers, therefore it's a roleplaying game lmao xd, but as in having roleplaying)

>>379194420
long time ago, hence why I don't play on PC that much.

>>379195616
Horizon is neat but how it got placed in gameinfarcers retarded top 100 RPG lineup is beyond me.

>>379199148
A friend got all shrines, memories before he finished the last divine beast.

If, like most people, you already own W1 after getting it for free or some shit, I would suggest playing the prologue and then reading a plot summary. The prologue is pretty fun and does a good job of introducing you to the world and characters, but the game grinds to an absolute halt right after that and the rest of the game's plot is only tangentially related to the sequels.

>>379199440
Meant for >>379199138

>>379195868
I feel like not too many games have that problem, only example I could think of is MGS4 which has fantastic gameplay, story kind of falls off into lame shit about halfway through though. And Jesus Christ the final cut scene is longer than encyclopedia Brown's schlong.

>>379198976

The same group of people who parrot that narrative is unnecessary for gaming. Meanwhile, games like New Vegas get threads every week, 7 years after its release precisely because it carries a strong narrative.

>>379199138
>I heard it's more of a true RPG, so I thought it'd make up for the rest of the game's roughness.
If by "more of an RPG" you mean "less hands-on-combat" and "a lot more clunky" then yes. But the problem is, while the combat is less hands-on (which is what classic RPG's tend to do), it does not actually provide any in-depth stat- and build- related options or intricacies. Stats are - like in all TW games - almost exclusively combat-related, and they are very dull for the most part. The entirety of the complexity boils down to "should I get a boost to the silver sword damage now and iron on the next level, or should I get iron now and silver on next level?". It's even gated in such a way that you'll basically be railroaded into the same universal build anyway.
There are no real interesting builds to pull off, neither will your stats in any way affect questing or problem-solving outside of combat. And the combat remains the same: somewhat indirect, but with very little complexity.

The only thing the game does well - much better than any of the following games - is the alchemy. That is literally the ONLY element of the game where some degree of planning and interesting decision making is involved (outside of the narrative, of course). But the alchemy is just not enough to save the game.

So if you want a "true classic RPG experience" this is not what you want. TW series did neither evolve or degrade over time when it comes to the core RPG elements - they just tweaked the superficial parts of it.

As a story, and fiction on the other hand... it's good.

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>>379194420
260 hours in the Witcher 3, been itching to replay it, so it'll be more soon, 130 hours in BotW.

I like them both, come at me.

>>379198976
Let me put it this way, I would rather watch a Witcher movie than play the game. Witcher 3 had more memorable moments in the first 3 main quests than Dragon Age: Inquisition had in it's entirety.

>>379199648
You know, the whole "narrative is unnecessary for games" things gained such a wide momentum back in the days where people were afraid that every game will turn into Call of Duty or Dear Esther. While it was stupid even back then, at least the sentiment was somewhat understandable.

Nowdays, it feels like it has been entirely hijacked by the worst halo and cod loving spastics and ADHD-ridden morons. It's tiresome. And dishonest, because I can guarantee that people who claim this never touched really gameplay-oriented games like some sims, Mount and Blade, fucking grand strategies or Factorio with a ten foot pole.

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Both games are good, but if you can only enjoy Zelda, you are a manchild.

It means that what you ultimately need in a game are simple, bright colors.

Simple, child-oriented stories

Funny physics to have HILARIOUS shenanigans with

This is exactly the reason nintendo fans are made fun of.

>>379199669
Well this pretty much answers my concerns.

Guess I'll pass on TW1 and just read/watch the story.

>>379199881
I'm still confused about your point.
I don't understand why would you rather watch it as a movie. Half of the fun in the game is the exploration, the actual feeling of presence in the environment, and the interaction with characters and consequences for choices that you made. None of that can be replicated in a passive medium. Hell, I grew up reading the damn books, and I honestly can tell you: I like the games more than the books, even despite their bloody flaws, because the actual interactivity DOES ADD something to it that the books don't offer.
Even if the gameplay is serviceable at the very best, it's not hampering the experience either, and the interactivity just does benefit the experience.

>>379199993
or maybe it means you don't like simple world design (from a gameplay perspective) magic witcher-vision that tells you exactly what to do and bad combat.

>>379194420
I like W1 and 2 but not 3
I think Alttp OoT and BotW are better than the rest of them
I prefer DeS and DaS2 more than the rest of the 5
XC is better than XCX and FFXV
I dont like FFIX but love FFVII and FF3,5,and 6 and 12
Medieval 1 and Spyro 1 are the best PS1 games
Mario 64 is great but overrated and far too easy.
BK is inferior to BT because adventure games are better than collectathons.
FFT is a great game but I can never finish it.
Open world was a mistake and the new HD.
All I want is a new Gargoyles Quest/Demon's Crest

>>379198556
Except you don't walk to the next cutscene? You have to find young Ciri, then train and learn the controls.

Or you skip the tutorial entirely, have a one minute scene of Geralt waking up and chatting with another Witcher named Vesemir, then ghouls attack and there literally isn't another cutscene until hours later when Yen comes to escort Geralt.

>>379200270

>expecting shitposters to have played the game

>>379194420
At resident evil 4. I realized people would eat shit as long as it looks good.

>>379200270
I haven't played the game in a while, nut I just youtubed a let's play and it took 14 min to go from the difficulty selection to the beginning of the tutorial.

>>379195868
>muh modern meme

Except classic RPGs like BoF and FF can take hours to get started sometimes.
>b-but it doesnt count cuz you play the beginning

Thats exactly what W3 does fagboi, is anything theres far less shit in W3 compared to most RPGs introductory acts.

I need to replay w3 still, never got far enough for it to get gud

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>>379200249
>Simple world design= Not enough giant caves to explore

>Bad combat
But the combat is fine, son. I really don't understand this meme.

>>379199993
>Funny physics to have HILARIOUS shenanigans with
Are you seriously trying to spin this as something negative

>>379200325
>Gameplay peaked at RE4, no game would ever be better
>Graphics continue to get better
Me too anon, me too.

>>379200270
But there is DIALOGUE! You can't mash buttons and kill things when some boring assholes nobody cares about make silly noises with their mouths! Fuck that shit. Dialogue is basically just another cutscene.
In all seriousness, the opening of TW3 cam drag on a bit. I've recently replayed it and found myself mashing the skip button rather impatiently myself, and I'm the kind of person who genuinely likes Planescape and Pathologic. It's a natural thing that a long RPG wants to start slow and ease the player into the setup, but it does drag a bit before it opens up first.

>>379200525
FF7 takes 2 minutes from pressing new game to start killing shit

>>379195812
prove it

turn on the emulator, drop two bombs, then swing your weapon 3 times, then explode both bombs

>>379200663
Not at all. I just said only a manchild would NEED something like this to enjoy a game.

>This game is better becuase it has worse graphics

Played both and enjoyed both pretty much equally.
Also neither deserve GOTY to be honest

>>379194420
Are you me, OP?

Dropped Witcher 3 pretty early too. In the end, it all comes down to whether the game is fun or not, and Witcher 3 is not fun if you're not a rabid waifufag.

>>379197258
Different anon but If you're still here - nvidia 970, 8 gigs of ram, and I think a i7 49something

>>379198676
Right but spending hundreds annually on one platform to keep the graphics running spectacularly isn't a somewhat juvenile endeavor.

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Are you implying BotW looks bad? Because it really doesn't.

>>379202070
You're good for 30

>>379194420
>he fell for the 21:9 meme

>>379194420
one is a cinematic experience
the other is not

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Witcher 3 is a great game if you play it for the first time. But I'm replaying it for the third time now and a lot of it just feels like filler content, especially Novigrad. The exposition of the first half of the story (finding Ciri) is just unnecessarily long and boring. The second half of the story (after you find Ciri) is even worse but at least the exposition isn't unnecessarily long.

The Witcher senses don't help much either since a lot of quests depend on it. The witcher senses didn't bother me when I played it for the first time but now that I'm replaying it they really starts to annoy me since I already know most of the "twists" and secrets of the quests.

TLDR: Witcher 3 has awful replay value because of the witcher senses. They could have easily cut 50% of the main quest filler content and the story wouldn't have suffered from it.

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>>379197971
yeah

>>379202625
It looks great, but it's textures are a bit too compressed at points, the framerate could be better and some of the terrain is barren and low poly

Its still a fucking great looking game

>>379202625
Textures are garbage, draw distance is garbage, resolution is garbage, framerate is unstable, and the entire game has this weird washed out effect. With a couple tweaks the game would probably look really good if it was running on real hardware and not last gen's red headed stepchild and this year's new google tablet.

>>379203997
I don't see how exactly do you blame the witcher sense for this. I mean I get the point about weak replay value because honestly, even though there is quite a lot of choice-and-consequences, most of the game is quite heavily on fairly linear narrative and the quests are straight-forward with the exception of clearly telegraphed usually dialogue-based choices.

I don't see how the Witcher sense matters in this. In fact, as I'm replaying the game and I generally know where to look, I don't really even USE that bloody thing as it's optional for 90% of the quest cues.
It's fundamental non-emergent and telegraphed-choice-folk based quest design that diminishes the replay value. Not the witcher sense. That is at best a secondary by-product of the core progression design.

>>379194420
I don't know how because while BotW is a skeleton of a really good game, it's just that: a skeleton. There's no meat on its bones. It's like they made a world and a couple of very basic barebones mechanics and then just copypasted stuff to fill out it to a full $60 title.

>>379204159
I mean, you gotta remember that it's pretty much a Wii U game, and with that considered it looks fantastic. I honestly don't think they could've done any better of a job.

>>379194420
I had an issue with the opposite. Zelda dropped at like 30ish?
W3 took me like 200 plus and it wasnt me just running around meaninglessly for orbs and seeds in hopes the game gets better.

Witcher 3 is better than BOTW in every way. BOTW is an exploration early access game, whereas the Witcher 3 is a complete experience with ups and downs and tons of quality content.

Probably the first game in a while since dark souls 1 where i thought it ended to soon, and felt lost as to what to play next.

Zelda wasn't even a good Zelda game honestly. I dont think it can touch the Witcher 3 on anything but freedom of exploration. But what good is that if there is no character development, story rewards, gear progression, or new items to enjoy? Zelda was hugely disappointing and it looked like poop.

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>>379203997
>I'm replaying the game for the third time
>I'm sick of this, it means the game is bad

What kind of ass-backwards logic is this?

Each of my playthroughs (all 2 of them, though to be fair I finished the first playthrough before either expansion released) was well into the 150 hours range

Of course certain aspects will seem stale and tiresome after that. You're spending 300+ hours in one media.

>>379201809
Oh that explains why all Zelda threads talk about anime Zelda girls.

>>379205079
That is not really what he is saying though. He is not saying that the game is bad, in fact he seems to have enjoyed it a lot before. He is merely saying that it has LIMITED REPLAY value, and he is not wrong about that either.

He makes the (to me rather baffling) argument that the replay issue is related to the witcher sense, but at no point is he saying the game is bad. Just that it does not support multiple playthroughs very well.

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>>379194420
So is BotW playable without crashes yet?

>>379194420

>Dropped both in the first 2 hours

Feels good man

BOTW has great graphics though. It just doesn't have a super duper realistic art style. The anime look it pulls off is done so deftly and perfectly, you'd think it was easy, but in practice Nintendo are actually using rendering techniques on par with games released on far more powerful consoles.
Just look at how light reflects off metal, or the spread of fire across grass. That wouldn't have been possible without some real tough optimization work, and it's incredible how their ways of hiding the costs emerges through the stylisation.

>>379205263
>limited replay value
>replays game twice in less than two years.

I'm not really following. A game I consider having no replay value is one I don't replay, let alone replay twice.

>>379206876
>A game I consider having no replay value is one I don't replay, let alone replay twice.
So first of all: you seem to be struggling with the concept of "replay". Having expansions with new content does not classify as replay. Playing through the content you ALREADY played through is what we talk about when we talk about replay.
Second of all: replay value is not a zero-one value. All game experiences change as you go through the same general content second or third or fourth time. Replay value is a vague measure of how negatively (or in rare cases, positively) does your experience change with each play through. Low replay value means that the game is not quite as enjoyable second time, high replay value means that the game can be played through multiple, potentially near infinte times and still retain the same levels of enjoyment.

Nobody also claimed that the game has NO replay value, just that the replay value isn't all that high. I mean the guy clearly said he is playing the game for a THIRD TIME, meaning he found it enjoyable enough on the two runs to try a third one.

Nobody is really shitting on the game, mind you. Just pointing out a particular aspect.

>>379205263
>He makes the (to me rather baffling) argument that the replay issue is related to the witcher sense
But the Witcher sense are the biggest reason that ruin the replay value for me. The game + dlc takes 170+ hours to fully complete and if you play a game that long you'll start to recognize patterns and copy pasted content more and more. The Witcher senses basically hinder you from solving the quests at your own pace so that is essentially my biggest problem with the game; you're not solving any mysteries or doing any thinking or deduction, the character Geralt is doing it for you.

This didn't bother me on my first playthrough because everything was new to me and still a mystery, but on replaying the game it makes you feel like a braindead moron because you're never doing any thinking for yourself, you're just looking for a red glowing object and wait for Geralt to say a sentence and move to the next glowing object, then you follow a blood trail or footprints and you kill the monster. That's essentially every monster quest you do in the game.

The first two Witcher games don't suffer from this because they aren't 150+ hours long and the quests can be completed at the player's own pace. There are a few quests in Witcher 2 where you have to activate your medallion but at least they were short and to the point.

>>379207353
>if you play a game that long you'll start to recognize patterns and copy pasted content more and more.
While that is a fair point, that has nothing to do with the Witcher sense.

>. The Witcher senses basically hinder you from solving the quests at your own pace so that is essentially my biggest problem with the game;
But that is not caused by the Witcher sense either! It's caused by the fact that the quests have extremely little problemsolving all together. Which is a problem of QUEST DESIGN, not the Witcher sense. And how does it prevent you from solving the quests at their own pace. I mean you don't have to use that fucking thing 90% of the time! The only cues that are not visually represented without the sense are smells, everything else can be found and triggered by mere sight.

Yes you are not doing any actual active problem-solving, but again: NOT A PROBLEM OF THE SENSE. Fucking Mass Effect has not Bat-vision equivalent and still has the same issue: it's the straight-forward quest design where quests are not designed as puzzles, but rather as a roller-coasters connecting setpieces of dialogue-driven decisions. And really, the bloody Witcher sense can be easily bypassed in most of the quests.

I understand (again) the complaint about quest design, but not about the sense feature.

>>379207893
>I understand (again) the complaint about quest design, but not about the sense feature.

Then let me rephrase for the last time: The Witcher senses make you look for red glowing objects and let you activate them triggering a voice line from Geralt on the clue. So you're doing exactly the same thing for almost every quest in your 150+ hour playtrough, this ruins the replay value for me because it feels so repetitive.

>>379209018
>The Witcher senses make you look for red glowing objects and let you activate them triggering a voice line from Geralt on the clue.
Yeah. WHICH IS A PROBLEM OF A QUEST DESIGN. Not of the particular visual means they chose for this particular game to transition between quest progression triggers. YOU DON'T EVEN FUCKING NEED THE RED GLOW TO TRIGGER THESE THINGS. LITERALLY, YOU CAN SOLVE 90% OF ALL THE QUEST WITHOUT USING THE FUCKING WITCHER SENSE.

The Witcher sense is fucking irrelevant. How hard it is to comprehend this? The fact that the quests are designed identically, because they don't involve any actual problem solving is the issue. Not the fucking red glow. The problem would be exactly the fucking same if they did not use a red glow, but instead just moved forward though a cutscene, or narrow combat-filled corridor like ME does.

>>379196786
Oh boy I dont remember this retarded nitpick from a thousand different other witcher hate threads. Oh wait...

Just finishing up with the Family Matters shit. Does the combat ever get better? So far I just get a few hits in with heavy attacks and side dodge. Sometimes spells if I know the weakness to whatever I know what I'm fighting.

>>379194420

> Zelda: Breath of the Your-Weapon-Breaks-every-goddamn-third-second-so-you-never-use-any-rare-weapons-in-fear-of-breaking.them Wild

You're just playing because it's called Zelda.

On top of that, if what you claimed was actually true you would be playing it instead of making shitpost threads on an image board.

>>379210135
>so-you-never-use-any-rare-weapons-in-fear-of-breaking
You're quite literally showered with great weapons all the time though. Open a chest and get a great weapon. Look around a corner and get a great weapon. You use one good weapon and get several in return.

>When did you grow out of graphics, /v/?
I never cared much about PC master race retardation but I always enjoyed pretty graphics and still do.

But picking up a Dreamcast from a garage sell was a pretty big deal. I got a pack of CD-Rs and played the shit out of Crazy Taxi, Shenmue, Illbleed and Code Veronica for weeks, the games look pretty shit by modern standards, especially on HD TVs but holy shit they were good.

>>379194420
>grow out of
if you play Nintendo games you haven't grown up. doesn't mean BotW is bad, but don't lie to yourself faggot.

>>379209348
>you don't need to use the red glow to trigger these things, you can solve 90% of the quests without using the witcher senses.

That's just flat out wrong, I'm currently replaying the game for the third time as I said before and the game prohibited me from following blood trails before activating all the clues in the area. You also can't activate clues without using your witcher sense, only certain corpses that trigger dialog options for an autopsy and there aren't that many in the game.

I know that this is hard to understand for you but just because the Witcher senses don't bother you doesn't mean I can't make a complaint about it.

>>379211236
Dude, I just bypassed like 80% of the twisted firestarter quest and solved it without the fucking sense being used one. The contextual prompt space is smaller without the sense, but it's still there. And while the scent is not traceable without the sense, if you remember from previous playthroughs where does it lead, you just walk past right to the next clue and bamb, done.

I think you just weirdly associated the two because of their highly superifical connection.

The Witcher sense actually does bother me, but for a WHOLE LOT of other, sensible reasons that have noting to with replay value. And the lack of replayvalue also botheres me, but it has nothing to do with the actual sense mechanic.

You just found two things incredibly superficially related and decided that since you have a vague feeling that the two connect, and decided that vague sentiment is enough to declare yourself an expert on gameplay mechanics apparently.

>>379210518
So what is the point of getting a great weapon? A weapon isn't that great if it breaks in half like it was cobbled together by the shittiest smith in all of Hyrule.

Come the fuck on. The weapon durability is one of the worst systems I've seen implemented in a game like that. A game all about freedom of choice, and the biggest mechanic is "yep, your weapon is broke, now you HAVE to use a different one."

Imagine if Arthur found Excalibur, swung it, broke it, and found another legendary weapon around the corner. Rinse and repeat 500 times. Imagine if in Link to the Past the Master Sword was just Generic Great Weapon No.5582349123. It's bullshit.

>>379194505
I'll do it for you, anon. I've played TW3 for 140 hours and BOTW for 80. Still playing - and love them - both.

>>379194420
80 Hours? how do you check your playtime??

>>379212358
>"yep, your weapon is broke, now you HAVE to use a different one."
I really don't see any issue with this.

>>379212589
Play 8 hours a day for 10 dayz

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>>379194420
It's the exact opposite for me.
Weak/Absent narrative, pointless open world, excessive crafting elements...
Botw is the epitome of what I dislike about modern triple-a games.

>>379212358
If the weapon can defeat several groups of enemies and make easy work of them before breaking. Then it was a pretty great weapon and was worth picking up.

>>379213016
>Have to listen to babbling for 350 hours
>Can't even climb a tree

The Witcher 3 is the epitome of what I dislike about modern triple-a games.

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>>379194420
I love them both. Your move, OP.

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>>379213169
>Can't even climb a tree
Damn, your priorities are well set mate.

>>379212649
The issue is that it's a game about freedom, and it provides none in the weapon department. And it does that so constantly.
>>379213159
That still doesn't answer for the attachment to having and finding a great weapon. Honestly finding rupees in BotW is more fun because at least they last longer and provide a better investment into the future.

A game can have a weapon durability system, but it should make sense. The one in System Shock 2 makes sense. Shit can break. With the skills you can repair it. You don't pick up a weapon and toss it aside like "yeah, hm, that was great and all but now it's broken. Fuck it."
It's jarring from a gameplay perspective, it's jarring from a narrative perspective, and it's dissonant to the entire leitmotiv of the game: freedom.

>>379213690
>Breaking weapons is jarring from a narrative perspective

What in the fuck are you even talking about at this point.

>>379212358
>>379213690
How is picking up and using weapons you find on the fly, in addition to acquiring and using the weapons of your fallen foes. Not freedom?

You can be dropped pretty much anywhere in the game and then simply choose the weapons of your choice and wreck havoc. There is even an island challenge centred entirely around the concept.

>>379211875
Why is it so fucking hard for you to understand that other people have different enjoyments out of replaying a game and certain elements can sour his personal experience upon replaying said game? Just because it bothers you for different reasons doesn't mean it doesn't bother my own experience when replaying a game.

Never played botw because it doesn't look like a Zelda game at all, looks like the witcher for kids

>>379214494
but the witcher already is for kids

>>379195042
>140 posts later
>still no other replies to >>379194835
lol

>>379214687

The goal was probably to make zelda shills a little more self-aware before they started shitposting. You still replied to it.

>>379213824

Did you read the other post I made? Imagine if you were King Arthur in a video game and you got Excalibur, swung it at 3 enemies, break it, and find another legendary sword around the corner. The game tells you narrative-wise "this is a good sword", and it has some weight in the plot. Then it breaks and you just find another one. It's jarring.

>>379214034
How is being forced to change weapons constantly freedom? How are you this stupid? If the game gave me a choice between using many different weapons AT MY LEISURE that is choice. Picking up 10 Bokoblin Spears, a Hammer and 3 shitty swords and breaking all of them in a few hits is not a choice. If anything it's an illusion of choice because none of that shit matters.

>>379212762
:(

>>379215035
>Imagine if you were King Arthur in a video game and you got Excalibur
But the Master Sword doesn't break. And rather than singing it at 3 enemies you can use it against like 3 to 6 groups of enemies without it temporarily running out of energy.

>>379194420
The graphics in Zelda are good silly anon.

I still care about graphiz. If I'm mashing right trigger to chainsaw something it had better look pretty or I'm gonna get bored.

>>379215548
They objectively are not. Maybe if you use a tiny ass screen you don't notice bad pixelated everything or the short lod or how none of the textures are good. It's a decently fun game but it's early PS3 graphically.

>>379215390
It's still stupid.

If Arthur had a big fight and went "hold on, Excalibur is out of energy, I've got to switch to a lesser weapon for now", it would come out of nowhere and just be kinda stupid. Some legendary sword, eh? This is why the other Zelda games don't have that.

>>379214685
Never played the witcher either, just my thoughts on it.

>>379194420
Both are boring dogshit. The actiong rpg genre was perfected and evolved to a higher standard, known as Soulsborne.

Everything else is dogshit, nothing compares to the quality of From Software, they are the saviors of gaming.

>>379203997

I think if you play TW3 at least once a year and dont think about the game beyond when youre playing it youll be fine when it comes to replayability.

Thats where im at basically, im currently on my 3rd playthrough and im loving the fuck out of it, finally doing a yen playthrough since my first 2 were with Triss and seeing the differences is nice, I think replaying 3 at a shorter frequency will lead to fatigue since beyond the combat youre really left with enjoying the dialog and doing the quests so if you remember every piece of dialog then yeah its going to suck, but doing different level up builds and trying all the dialog options makes it great.

>>379194420
BOTW is mediocre as fuck, Witcher 3 is a masterpiece

>>379194420
I like them both. Could have chosen a better shot of Zelda like from one of the towns showing off the colors and what not.

>>379199648
This right here. But I would like to add that the narrative in these cases is part of the gameplay. Compare this to say the Uncharted series and The Last of Us where the gameplay is divorced from the narrative

>>379217102
>BotW
>Action RPG
It's straight Action Adventure you dip

>>379209926
Turn up the difficulty. But combat is not this games strong point. I find it satisfying enough, personally.

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>>379219306
Does the boring combat ever become enjoyable?

>Yeah just make the boring fights last longer

>The part of the game where you actually play it isn't very strong. That's why I'm here defending its honor on the internet to people who played it and think it's bad

>>379220512
Even on the most difficult difficulty you eventually become super overpowered. But you're right, it isn't worth it for the period where you barely chip the enemy's health while they can two shot you.

>>379219306
What would you say is the strong point? I enjoy the voice acting and the characters but that alone isn't going to carry the fact that the gameplay is kind of shallow.

>>379194505
Your game is shit, don't be a sore loser now.

>>379213016
>BotW
>excessive crafting elements
What, fucking cooking? I've barely even touched the mechanic outside of a few specific scenarios.

>>379194420
I would love to play BOTW but i cant find a fuckin switch to save my fucking life

>>379194420
The top one has far better story and writing

>>379196067
>he likes following dotted lines and being spoonfed

>>379221985
guess it sucks that it's supposed to be a videogame and not a movie or book huh?

>>379194420
Zelda combat is simple kinda boring but works.
Witcher combat is trash for 3 games, nothing was learned if you can get past that 50% atleast of the game, I bet its great. I played it as a fucking horse riding card game.

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>>379222282
>implying i don't have everything on the map turned off
>implying i don't have the map turned off

anon with a hard brain

>>379194420
They're both good games. Fuck off.

>>379205236
>all Zelda threads talk about anime Zelda girls.
No, they talk about crossdressing Link because they're literal cock-loving faggots.

>>379194420
>When did you grow out of graphics, /v/?

The question is when will you grow out of graphics? Since you made an entire thread about them, and saw these games only for their graphics.

The reason you dropped the first one 2 hours in but play second one after 80 hours isn't the graphics. Its the fact that you're a corporate shill straddling the cock of your corporate overlords.

Other way around for me. I got bored after 2 dungeons in BOTW but have put a retarded amount of time in W3.

>>379196604
Are you fucking retarded?
RPGs are literally all about the stories, where they be told through the environment or through a streamline narrative.
Even non RPGs need a story
Video game are based around...
You know what?
I'm not even gunna keep on trying to explain this to you and let you live in your bubble of non-reality.

>>379219478
It's a gorgeous game for GameCube

>>379194505
There were always people who said Witcher games were bad but it wasn't nearly as bad as it is now and it only started around the time BotW was shown to be a similar style of game.