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How do I get into Disgaea series? I really like the setting,

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How do I get into Disgaea series? I really like the setting, the characters and the music. But I'm having serious trouble with the gameplay.
>have to grind useless characters to certain levels to unlock better ones
>have to grind items to a certain level to progress
Plus, actually moving units on the battlefield is proving to be strangely unfun. I dunno why, I never had any of these problems with the regular turn based JRPGs.

They say that the early Disgaea games are really outdated mechanically. Maybe I could use some cheap tricks (demon style) to breeze through the story mode and move onto the newer installments?
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post more Etna
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>>379149089
I just look up what units I can get and find out how to unlock them. Then just ignore the rest and focus on your favorites

>moving units on the battlefield is proving to be strangely unfun
I find it pretty fun quickly flying through menus once you get the muscle memory down.
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>>379149254
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>>379149298
My problem is - I'd have to repeat the same maps I've already completed in order to do so. Or progress the story with the weaker units, and ending up with underleveled new units when I finally unlock them. Like unlocking the non-elemental mage for example.
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>>379149089
Lmao my Etna is thicc.
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>>379149298
>i find it pretty fun

This. Using lift and throw to get myself and enemies to where I need them is fun as fuck. Also is seraphina supposed to be useless? Literally everything she attacks takes zero damage
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Rebooblican > Demoflat.
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>>379152267

>Not being a Li-butt-arian
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>>379152607
But does Disgaea universe even have those? I'll need some examples.
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>>379151252
Give her a gun and level that angelic whore.
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>>379150648
what have you done
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This thread is now under ownership of Seraphina, the gorgeous temptress overlord. All you men are now my servants of love! OOOOOHOHOHOHOHO!
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>>379153205
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>>379149089
Disgaea 5 is probably the most accessible gameplay wise, if you happen to have a PS4.

If you don't, it looks like they're releasing it on Steam soon, before 3 and 4. Guess the Switch port sped things up.

The earlier games in the series requires a bit more early grinding than later games.
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>>379153431
I do, but ideally I'd really like to play them all in order if possible. And I hope that by that time, NIS has ported 3-5 on PC already. With the DLCs included.
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>>379153431
D5 also got ported to Nintendo Switch.
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>>379153596
Ah, knew it was coming, didn't realize it was already released.
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>>379152607
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>>379152267
>>379152607
heh
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>>379153528
Fair enough.

Don't worry about reincarnating any of the characters before you've finished the story (to upgrade unit type to next upgrade and such). Save that kind of stuff for post game.
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>>379153528
if youre gonna play them all, just do the story
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for the story itself grinding is not "that" necessary and you can throw mobs in eachother to make them higher level and reward more exp use this once in awhile and you never really have to grind.
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plus, half the games have a cheat shop so you can grind easier if you really need it to do the story
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>>379155031
I assume only the latest ones do, in which anons say grinding is less of an issue to begin with.
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>>379149089
>have to grind items to a certain level to progress
Don't. They make you do it once in the story to introduce you to the mechanic, but it's not worth it until postgame
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>>379153289
gay conversion is the best
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>>379153205
Could not be less attractive if she tried.
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>>379158857
Retract this!
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>>379149089
>go to sadpanda
>search for Disgaea
>you are now a Disgaea fan
It's not that hard.
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>>379160320
>Go to SadPanda
>You can rarely find any porn of generics
>Most of the material is about Etna,Flonne or Desco
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>>379149089
That's pretty much the game play.

Generally it is easier to level a single guy to oneshot the enemies in every story map. This usually ends up being your main guy.

Then, at a certain point a map will show up that makes it easy to power level the other shit units you want. Though, again it's usually pointless for the story. (The only exception being the PS3 version of Dis3, because they changed how Resistance and Defense factor into skill damage [in that it completely doesn't...] which lets the AI start just one shotting your guys back even if they're rediculously over leveled.)

The post game content is just grinding up numbers for a few hours in the super-power-leveling maps, and increasingly diving into the item world for shit that wasn't gated behind bullshit RNG in the first few games.

That's really it. It is a time waster game about chasing higher numbers, and also delicious loli demons.
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>>379160320
Why are they sucking on lollipops in such an uncomfortable position?
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>>379161017
At least the good artists are western and can be comissioned.
I still don't know why Disgaea is so much more popular in the west than its own country though.
Is it "too Japanese" for the Japs?
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>>379161513
It's novelty pops, you dip them in honey and they are all fizzy and magic like a pixy kiss.
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Reminder that Majorita is the best Disgaea loli.
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>>379158857
Someone's mad cause their garbage waifu is no match for the queen of temptation?
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>I want to _____ that bunny's _____
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>>379161728
censor costume
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>he likes all the wrong things about Disgaea

The characters and setting are frequently the most annoying thing about disgaea by far. It is horrible, horrible weeb shit. The gameplay is what redeems it.
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>>379158857
She could remove the fat from tit and put it in the other so her tits are uneven, did you even think this through anon?
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>>379161853
Blame Playboy for that
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>>379162715
That's what I was hinting at.
Can the US patent laws be unfucked at this point, or is it too late?
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Disgaea is a bad series. Don't fall for the art style. The game itself is trash tier, like all NIS shit.
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>>379161728
reveal what's under, bulge
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>>379162815
that patent makes no sense, if people with actual money decided to put it to the court they'll lose.
can't patent a costume, can't copyright a concept.
All they can do is trademarks and that only cover each piece of art they can make.
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>>379162715
Wait, what happend?
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>>379149089
If you're in it for the setting/characters/music then I recommend just skipping all the post game content. Once you're done with a game's story just jump right into the next game. You will never have to grind.
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>>379153138
Actually, she's much less dense when fat. I bet she can't even swim normally, she has so little fat she'll sink like a rock.
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>>379163017
That's my plan, but the game is still a bit too grindy. Ideally I'd like to play through the story without having to repeat any stage even once. But it's proving to be difficult, when the game expects you to go back and grind every so often.
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>>379163136
I don't really remember what Disgaea 1 and 2 were like gameplay wise since I haven't played those since release, but I don't think what you mention was an issue with the later ones, so at least know that it gets better.
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>>379149089
How is this compared to FFT/TO?
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>>379163435
I actually played through FFT right before I tried Disgaea. Surprisingly I didn't have those issues except the fucking Dorter Slums after which I dropped the game for three years. Maybe because FFT was so much more story driven than Disgaea games.
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>>379162990
supposedly they own the bunnygirl costume and you can't use its without their consent.
In practice it's like the Edge scam, nobody is assed to put that shit to a real court so the illegitimate patent stays and they can scare small companies and online artist with it.
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>>379163435
Disgaea gameplay has lots of fluff you can do for the lulz but not really needed in battles to win, unlike FFT. It's fun but not deep.
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>>379165242
So the gameplay isn't as deep as I keep hearing?
I see it often get praised for being the most complex of all SRPGs
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>>379166305
complex!= deep.
There's nice combos but only the last optional boss of the game will require you to manage anything.
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>>379166305
Deep as Etna's pussy.
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So, in the first games where evilities aren't a thing, male/female versions of the same classes are mostly cosmetic?
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Priere > all girls
You can not deny this.
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>>379168685
Well there have different stat aptitudes still. By the way Majin is the best generic in 1 for their aptitudes
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>>379149089
>How do I get into Disgaea series?
play Disgaea games
>They say that the early Disgaea games are really outdated mechanically.
they are not outdated, just a bit more rough. Still better than quite a few modern sRPG
>need to grind
when this notion will die? Disgaea is not a "grindy" game in general sense. You can beat story in each game without any grinding period.
Disgaea's "grind" is figuring out how to exploit game mechanics in your advantage.
that's it.
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>>379152267
This
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>>379169023
Agreed
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>>379169863
>Disgaea's "grind" is figuring out how to exploit game mechanics in your advantage.
>that's it.
Fuck you maybe it isn't the case for the first three games but you really do have to grind to kill Baal
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>>379149089
You don't grind until the endgame, friend-o.

Just play the game like a normal sRPG until you beat the main story, THEN you can go back and do focused grinding to tackle the post-game content.

Don't try to play multiple disgaea's in a row, you'll burn out before you even get through the second story.

Play Disgaea D2 or Disgaea 5 as they're the most mature mechanically.
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>>379170742
okay 100% playthru may have some regular grind to it
But 100% playthru is not something people who are just getting into the series will be doing. At best it's 1-2 main story playthrus, sidestory and some post game.
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>>379170762
>play Disgaea D2
nigga what
D2 is trash
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>>379170963
neck yourself
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>>379170963
not that anon, DD2 is most asurely trash but mechanics wise, it was ok
mechanics only.
only mechanics
and gender bender laharl
everything story and characters related was trash
mechanics were alright tho
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>>379170987
It shits all over the original story, characters and world. It's trash
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>>379170742
Depends on how far you want to go. Most are happy just to beat the game, which doesn't force you to grind. Post game is where it becomes a requirement.
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>>379163136

I don't see how that's a big deal. Is your attention span so fucking short you can't redo a couple of levels?

You should just stop playing video games.
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>tfw bought all 4 games on vita and 5 on switch
>tfw haven't even started the first game yet

My backlog is so fucking big holy shit.
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>>379171113
Get started, anon. You can be playing and browsing /v/ at the same time.
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>>379171036
The spell book was a nice alternative to the wand and even came with its own set of skills. Too bad they dropped it in 5.
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>>379171054
>giving a flying fuck about Disgaea lore
Waifufags are the fucking worst
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>Being thick

Not counting Baal from D4 on, if you need do anything enough times to constitute grinding, you're missing the point. Disgaea is a game about understanding and abusing it's plethora of systems, not just blindly swarming with shit units.
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>>379158857
Gaylord detected
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>>379171849
>Being attracted to a cuck
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>>379169863
>Disgaea is not a "grindy" game in general sense.
When will THIS notion die?
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>>379161017
>disgaea
>getting h material at all

I wish.
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>>379172136
whenever the tiny fanbase stops being in denial
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Where is Soul Nomad 2?
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>>379172006
Not my fault they had to ruin a good character by making her fall in love with the deviantart-tier Shadow the Hedgehog main character
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>>379172136
>>379172196
So, anons, do you want to see THAT ending again?
Cause it seems you stopped playing after getting it because you couldn't work out how geopanels work.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BF9RbaQsk1Y
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You don't need to grind long to unlock characters. At most you just need to get the required classes to 30, I think? The grind is only required if you want to finish the bonus content.
Personally, I enjoy raising characters to a high level and grinding for it.

>>379160320
>disgaea having any good porn
There are exceptions. sure. but disgaea is definitely lacking in it.
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>>379172543
Stop projecting in every thread. Mid-boss was way easier than Maderas.
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>>379172543
>tfw I purposely went for that ending in my first playthrough in order to recruit Pleinair sooner
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>>379172371
never
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>>379172598
>b-but if it's not up to at least lvl 30 it's not grinding
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>>379172714
You can get them to 30 in no time at all. Did you even play the game?
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>>379172643
>projecting
I just recalling first few weeks after Disgaea PC port release
threads filled with "why this game is too grindy" just to reveal that they lost to midboss
It's okay anon, you just need to admit that you sucked at the game and needed to grind instead of using game mechanics to beat levels
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>>379172371
You'll be lucky to even see a port of the game.
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>>379172804
>>379172692

>all their ps2 titles get ports but their magnum opus
I don't understand
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OP if you're still here there's no need to unlock every class ASAP, it's possible to have someone shoot from lv1 to lv.20 with one kill so just wait until you're at that point to start unlocking classes. The base classes they give you are all you really need to be any game, unless you're deliberately trying to get a certain class.
>>379172136
It's true though. If someone finds themselves underleveled it's usually because they did poor exp management, and it's usually mitigated by one trip to the Item World anyways.
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>>379172785

>People losing to Midboss
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>>379172543
His first fight really is a wakeup call to make sure you know how geopanels work. It was also the first time I had characters die, so I learnt that this isn't like Fire Emblem where characters permanently die.
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>>379172785
>It's okay anon, you just need to admit that you sucked at the game and needed to grind instead of using game mechanics to beat levels
You sure seem to be unhealthy obsessed over this. Is there something you want to talk about, anon? Do you want to share the stories of yourself dying to Mid-boss?
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>>379172904
We aren't allowed to have nice things.
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>>379172989
>to make sure you know how geopanels work
Geopanels are pretty easy to understand, though. Its not rocket science.
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>>379173024
sorry, anon, I'm not that bad in sRPG games to be not able to clear story modes.
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>>379173117
But lots of people try to go through the game without caring about geo effects. Gotta force them to learn somehow.
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>>379173117
You'd be amazed by how many people got nuked by the Archer and Mage on the enemy boost x3 panel.
I like how they designed it so it could be taken out by a single Laharl Sword Rush, and yet people still got btfo.
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>>379173117
you gotta be surprised how many people do not pay attention
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>>379173294
>>379173295
Bullshit. I refuse to believe there are idiots who can't understand mechanics I understood when I was 12. Its just colors, that's kindergarten shit.
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>>379173471
Nope, apparently after D1PC the threads were filled with people getting dunked by ya boi Vyers.
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>>379173471
you think about people way too highly.
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>>379173471
You missed the countless threads of people bitching about getting their shit stomped in by those two.
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>>379173471
Nobody except that one guy who keeps projecting died on that particular level.
But the game does throw at you overleveled enemies without any geopanel gimmicks at times.
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>>379174164
>multiple people agree that massive dying to Midboss happened
>it's must be just one guy
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>>379174748
>falseflag
>s-see it's true!
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