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Are there any games that deal with the conflict between two or more "good" parties and their differing views on justice and morals?
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>>379146845
Legend Of The Galactic Heroes. Not a game btw.
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>>379146845
Meteora is the cutest
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Wild Arms 3? Or 4?

Know there was two rival parties.
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>>379146845
Senran Kagura
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>>379146845
Plenty of games where all parties are neutral. Define good?
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Injustice
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>>379146845
Alright I'll bite. Where is this bitch from and what did she do?
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>>379146845
Seriously though, Everything about ReCreators is uninspired. There's too much poorly executed exposition, the plot is as generic as it gets, the MC is INCREDIBLY bland and even Sawano's music feels like he lacked inspiration in making it. ReCreators has all the makings of a decent action battle royale but it settles for this weird. amalgamation of LN-style exposition dumps instead and I doubt anyone will remember after it ends.

Its done worse than your average LN adaptation exposition in my eyes. Good dialogue is good when it is good dialogue(ex: Monogatari franchise). Listening Meteora ramble on for whole episode about lore mechanics in deadpan voice is NOT good dialogue, whether you judge by content or by cinematography/execution.

And in most of cases it feels pointless and reiterative. All the talking is ReCreators weakest part which is ironic because it is the biggest part of ReCreators for some reason. Recreators could have been decent action show with that premise, so it is damn sad to see the decisions made with it. Its an action show that abandoned its action in its wishes of pretending to be Fate, but, unlike Fate, it does not have interesting realistic characters, well thought out unique lore or focus on philosophy.
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>>379148495
>Good dialogue is good when it is good dialogue(ex: Monogatari franchise)
Stopped reading right there.
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>>379148478
Re:creators, we're on episode 9 of 22 now
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>>379148381
>Injustice Superman
>""""good""""
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>>379146845
Many
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fallout new vegas
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>>379147280
This
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This is Shark.
Say something nice to her.
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>>379151067
She's fucked
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>>379151067
Why the long face?
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>>379151103
>Can bend reality
>implying
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>>379147014

It's my favorite anime

Didn't much care for Re:creators. Too much TALKING
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>>379151224
>Don't care for creators cause "too much talking"
>Favorite is LotGH
wat
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>>379147014

Fuck yeah, I finally get a chance to use this picture in both proper context and relevancy.

Shit is SO cash.
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>>379151512
Is it too high minded? I love space operas, but I'm not generally happy with an anime of nothing but WORDS WORDS WORDS.
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>>379151067
Based shark working the alice marks
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>>379151342
>flip fapper

go away /u/fags
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>>379151201
Only if she catches you in her lies. If you say nothing or answer her question with a question she has no power.
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>>379151804
No
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>>379151691

I'm 31 and am just now getting around to watching it; I'm about 20 episodes in and it's great.

Nice to see a old school slow burn series.

I watch Hellsing Ultimate the other day and the plot/storyline about the Major and his Last Battalion was just full retard.

And Walter actually being a Judas fuck and being a sleeper mole for 55 fucking years and Alucard not knowing it?

Realizing how fucking stupid it was made me want to be buried alive.
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Hoi, thread. Play SMT. Except SMT IV. Jonathan is a cuck.
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FFXII. You know it to be true.
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>>379151907
That's because Helsing is trash.
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>>379151981
Dont

actually dont consume japanese media in general

cause its shit
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>>379152040

Well growing up I saw the original Hellsing and it was bretty gud.

I also just watched Death Note for the first time about six months ago, it's bretty gud.

Light should have won...again; after finishing off L.
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>>379152289
>Death Note
>bretty gud.
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>>379152469

first half is in fact pretty good.
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>>379152525
what next

are you're exsited for the new season of code geass?
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>>379152525

Thank you.

After L died it should have ended.

Even after the time jump but having a orphanage for autistic children to be groomed into super detectives?

Full retard.

Light was based as fuck though.
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>>379152684
>are you're exsited
You okay anon? You're not having a stroke are you?
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>>379152684

what's your favorite anime mr faggy boy?
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>>379151224
Dude what? LOTGH is 90% talking.
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>>379152743
didnt get any sleep
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>>379146845
Pretty much every single Tales Of game
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>>379152760
i dont have a favorite anime cause im not a faggot
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Radiant Historia
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What are some games that are brilliant deconstructions of long-standing genres?
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fire emblem fates
suikoden ii
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>>379153043
>fire emblem fates
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>>379146845
Are there games where there is conflict between a high INT/WIS hero and a low INT/WIS hero?
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>>379152760

Favorite?

That's a hard one since they all have pros and cons.

I liked Fate/Zero a lot but I really love Death Parade.

I'm watching LOTGH and have Beserk and Monster on standby.

Fucking going outside this summer.
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What are some games about constantly jobbing? Bonus points if the fanbase keeps getting dissapointed
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>>379153059
that's hot
source?
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>>379151691
It's a lot of talking and while not so flashy, when there is combat, the scene's can be quite visceral. The way battles are won through whatever clever or dumb but effective tactics make them way more interesting than just action.

The only games that come to mind of the differing views on justice and morals is SMT, but as a whole you could say that demons aren't really 'good'.
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>>379146845
Suikoden II, FFT, TO
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>>379153124
SMT is the opposite of OP's scenario. Both the demons and angels are evil.

>>379153152
>Luca Blight
>good
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>>379153105
>I liked Fate/Zero a lot but I really love Death Parade.
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>>379153283
>Luca Blight
Jowy was the example here
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>>379148495
>Good dialogue is good when it is good dialogue(ex: Monogatari franchise)
Oh come on now
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>>379153301

Death Parade had an interesting premise plus it even had a cameo of Light from Death Note.

Fate/Zero was great for many reasons:

- based Wolverine
- based Kerry
- based Rider
- based Gilgamesh

Okay so many is actually four.

Lancer being forced to commit suicide right before he was about to finally get to have his duel with Saber was pretty fucking metal too.

But fuck Saber, that shitty king and Mary Sue.
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>>379153686
I can't stand how the Fate series pointlessly butchers characterization for the sake of waifus and animu cliches.

Lancer is a prime example, if you know anything about his legend.
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>>379153686
>Death Parade had an interesting premise
and yet it was boring as fuck but it wasnt bad

>Fate/Zero was great for many reasons
HOLD THE FUCK ON

are you trying to make a fate/something sound good?

kek fate is some of the worst shit because there are so many people that try to say how great it is but all they can come up with is "the characters are ok" but they are shit and cant hold this shit train from crashing
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>>379153943
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>>379148478
She did some cute things and then dumb things
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>>379153825
>>379153943

Fans of Fate are extremely hateful of Fate/Zero since it 'deviates' from the LOOOOOOOOOOOOOONG and fucking boring VN.

The heroes in Fate/Zero were all pretty cool; except for Saber because she's a cunt.

It got pretty fucking dark and brutal.

Plus it had one of the most tragic characters in all of animeseses:

Kerry
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>>379153825

Well there's two Lancers and they're both Irish heroes/legends right?

Tragedy is in their blood so the fact they both died pointless deaths isn't a surprise.
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>>379154132
>It got pretty fucking dark and brutal.
>fate/zero
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>>379154104

cringe inducing
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>>379154104
and i thought that the moe period was bad
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>>379154225
>>379154132
Was mainly bitching about the whole franchise there.

And yeah, I hate how Cu Chulainn was portrayed as Lancer. Cu in the legends was fucking crazy, so crazy that he would enter what was known as warp spasms.

"The first warp-spasm seized Cúchulainn, and made him into a monstrous thing, hideous and shapeless, unheard of. His shanks and his joints, every knuckle and angle and organ from head to foot, shook like a tree in the flood or a reed in the stream. His body made a furious twist inside his skin, so that his feet and shins switched to the rear and his heels and calves switched to the front... On his head the temple-sinews stretched to the nape of his neck, each mighty, immense, measureless knob as big as the head of a month-old child... he sucked one eye so deep into his head that a wild crane couldn't probe it onto his cheek out of the depths of his skull; the other eye fell out along his cheek. His mouth weirdly distorted: his cheek peeled back from his jaws until the gullet appeared, his lungs and his liver flapped in his mouth and throat, his lower jaw struck the upper a lion-killing blow, and fiery flakes large as a ram's fleece reached his mouth from his throat... The hair of his head twisted like the tangle of a red thornbush stuck in a gap; if a royal apple tree with all its kingly fruit were shaken above him, scarce an apple would reach the ground but each would be spiked on a bristle of his hair as it stood up on his scalp with rage."

He also once killed a man by throwing a spear with his foot, and was once so angry that his men attempted to dunk him in barrels of water to calm him. The first two barrels EXPLODED.
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>>379154715
i want an anime about this
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>>379154132
I actually like both suck it,
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>>379154715

>The first two barrels EXPLODED.

Metal.

>>379154227

Well we could make a list:

Kerrys GF turns into a zombie.
His lack of strength to do the right thing and kill Sherry caused the island to be purged.
He killed his own father.
He killed his surrogate mother who sexually harassed him over the years.
based Caster and the COOL guy murdering kids.
The wife threatening to torture her husband to get his command seals.
That same husband causes Lancer to kill himself in order to save his wife.
He and his wife are killed 10 seconds later.
The ex boyfriend of Rin and Sakuras mother sacrifices himself to try to get Sakurs back to her real family.
She's already been raped by worms.
And some other shit.

It was dark and brutal.
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>>379155084
You should watch 1997 berserk you'll love it
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>>379155084
>Well we could make a list

please dont

anime cant do "dark and brutal"
when it trys to it ends up being edgy

>>379155212
berserk is one of the few that dont feel total edgy when trying to do dark and brutal
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>>379155084
Matou Kariya chokes Aoi Tohsaka until she is half retarded and wheelchair bound. Yes I know exactly what to do with this erection.
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>>379154936
im pretty sure you suck the most

since you know liking anything fate makes you a fucking vacuum cleaner
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>>379154936

I also like both; including UBW.

>>379155212

I just downloaded it from the /t/ section; people are posting magnet links of high quality anime series. I got Monster, Legend Of The Galactic Heroes and Beserk.

And I just watched the 3 movie Golden Arc thing.

1 was alright.
2 was meh.
3 was pretty brutal and alright.

I've never seen the original series though.

>>379155431

Oh yeah, I forgot about based Wolverine stabbing his teacher/comrade in the back (literally) and then making it look like Kariya killed him.

Which is hilarious because based Wolverine was the only reason Kariya was still even alive after getting BBQ'd by Rins father.

Mah nigga!

See, how can you honestly say that Fate/Zero isn't brutal; maybe pretty dark and tragic instead of brutal?
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>>379155765
is only a show why you heff to be mad?
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>>379156036
>See, how can you honestly say that Fate/Zero isn't brutal; maybe pretty dark and tragic instead of brutal?

cause its too edgy to be anything else
>>379156078
i was trying to come up with something like "sucking as much as a shit plaint" but i fucked it up
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>>379156036
I do recommend checking out the 1997 show. I preferred the artstyle compared to the 3 movies. Plus it has a great opening that I'm sure you'll come to love.
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>>379156078
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>>379151907
>episode 20
nigga you dont even know whats about to happen
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>>379156036
Don't listen to >>379156258, just read the manga
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>>379146845
BREAK YOUR STEREO DAYS
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>>379156036
>>379156336
Right forgot to add that. Like the anon said check out the manga once you're done.
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>>379156441
wow

was that really it?
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>>379156203

Eh, I liked it and actually saw Zero then UBW then played the VN.

The VN was so fucking long and boring; I contemplated hanging myself while sitting through all 70 hours of it.

>>379156258

Oh I've seen a few episodes, I'm 31 and my weeb buddy in high school got me into it; we even played the Beserk game for the Dreamcast,

Man, I'm getting old.

So much to do in a few remaining years.
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>>379156441
Can anime do anything violent without looking absolutely dumb?
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>>379156593
>The VN was so fucking long and boring; I contemplated hanging myself while sitting through all 70 hours of it.
al least we can agree on one thing

the VN sucks shit harder then rin takes it up the butt
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>>379156719
>at becomes al
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>>379156287

I actually don't even think I'm that far.

The last thing I remember is the guy with the robot eyes either taking the blame for the space station being taken over or his rage at how fucking stupid his commanding officer on said space station was.

I usually take a few Benadryl at night and binge on anime but I get pretty fucking high and don't remember things once I hit a certain threshold of highnesseses.

>>379156336
>>379156476

No manga for me, thanks.

Only exception is Goblin Slayer because of how metal and based he is.
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>>379147280
She's confirmed deadmeat at this point and I can't deal with that
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>>379156836
>No manga for me
idiot
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>>379156836
>Goblin Slayer because of how metal and based he is.
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>>379153032
>Brilliant deconstruction
>is literally the same exact shit as other shonen garbage
Zelda Breath of the Wild
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>>379156836
Hold the phone there buddy. Berserk manga is just as metal as goblin slayer. It also covers stuff the anime doesn't since its still ongoing.
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>>379157067
>Thumbnail posting
>Posting a edit
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>>379153032
pic unrelated
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>>379154715
frankly if you're into mythology at all, fate is a real gut punch if you're stickler for details.
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>>379157124
Oh yes I'm aware of that lambast me all you want.
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>>379156961

I'm too old guys; I'm legally blind from the decades spent living in complete darkness while playing Duke Nukem 3D and WarCraft 3.

>>379156981


Goblin Slayer was a joke; it's short and there's reap involved so that's the only reason I even checked it out to begin with.

>>379157067

What the fuck; it's still ongoing?

It's been around for roughly 30 years, right?
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>>379157124
>an edit

nope, whoever translated this chapter took the liberty to do that
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>>379157239
These aren't "details". It's basic knowledge of how a character is and looks.

Fate just uses cool sounding names.
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>>379157295
30 years ongoing is more common than you think, and the creator is addict to moe games like idolmaster.
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>>379157295
yes, the main characters have been on a boat for 8 of those years
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>>379157295
>Goblin Slayer was a joke
sure it can be a joke and still be edgy
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>>379157239

Yeah, the Assassin Servant that was summoned by the Caster Servant wasn't even an actual hero or legend.

I think he had a mans name that was written in one book somewhere and the characteristics of your typical Ronin.

But in Fate/Zero, Rider even says that you can't believe everything you read in books when Waver says that the history book says he was short.

Meta joke/reference?
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>>379157370
Those actually are. This is the same series that turn the King of England into some endless rehash virgin false queen. You really can't expect anything from this franchise beyond loose association.
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>>379157445

Oh no, I like it and I think it's pretty metal.

Watch those young punks get their shit wrekt because they underestimated their enemy and were overconfident was sweet.
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>>379157295
There's plenty of good quality scans that a blind bat could read
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>>379157513
the problem is that they are the bigger joke

they take interesting characters and make them not interesting
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>>379157239
>>379157513
The thing about fate is you can have fictional heroes who never existed so technically you could have any superhero or movie character.

Now when it comes to their strange portrayal of certain historical figures yeah it gets strange.
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What are some games that allows you to play several generations of a family through different eras?
I know about Phantasy Star 2
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>>379147014
>Not a game btw.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o2rGrZEiNuw
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>>379157598
Even though she's plenty flawed, I enjoy original Seibah as a character
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>>379157710
Dragon's Valor.

I really wish Mount & Blade had that feature. Pass on your stats and shit to your kids.

>>379157747
Saber suffers from the Rei effect. She was so influential and copied that people are sick of her.
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>>379157710
Off the top of my head Dragon Quest V and Sly Cooper 4.
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>>379157816
Nero and all her variants seems annoying, yes
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>>379157710
generations of war agarest

but dont play it

its shit
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>>379157816
>>379157747
That's the thing though she has brought Type Moon fame and money which is why she's the mascot. I was always a rin fan myself but in the end it comes down to the money Lebowski.
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>>379157747
Most of the original cast is enjoyable if highly stereotyped. Saber in particular just become some goddess status shit and TYPE MOON just can't stop shilling her to he point the original artist can't even draw another girl besides sabre anymore.
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>>379154715
Well, he wasn't summed as berserker, so no warp spasms for you.
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>>379157747
>I enjoy original Seibah as a character
what character? she never had a personality
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>>379157710
Eternal Darkness
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>>379157598
I remember reading that initial version had male Arthur and female mc, but it was changed in order to apeal more to target audience.
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>>379157997
I just wanted to have a happy romance with Sakura.

Type-Moon won't stop that girl's suffering, and for my money it's what finally made me decide that I'm sick of their nihilistic grimdark faggotry.

Fuck, Tsukihime was more uplifting and that features the MC cutting his love interest to pieces out of pure instinct.
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>>379158062
She had some nice armor though
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>>379158236
>Type-Moon won't stop that girl's suffering
but she is a cunt. she deserves it
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>>379158086

Mein nigger.

>Dat bathtub
>Dem 12 characters.
>Dat beating the game three fucking times for the true ending.
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>>379158318
>sakura
>cunt
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>>379158402
what can i say

is there one thing type-mood did right it was making me hate that bitch
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>>379158463
I dunno spend most of your life getting raped by worms you're bound to wind up bad.
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>>379158463
Man, why? Everything she did was because of how totally fucked her life was. Shirou was her one ray of hope, and even in the best ending he fucking dies.
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>>379151224
>>379151342
>>379152789
The problem with re:creators is not that it is too much talking, it is that what they say is either slow stammering shit that any half-intelligent viewer will have figured out already, too much stereotypical lines by characters that just reiterate how cool/just/good/evil they are supposed to be in a really lame fashion, or simply boring exposition that would not be necessary if the studio had some sort of talent for imparting information through scenes.

But all that would not be a major problem it the thing had good action scenes, it could be mindless fun then, but it only has a single one in episode 1, yet.
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>>379158396
>Dat Xel'lotath with her double voice
>Dat lovecraftian backstory
>Dat madness system fake disconnecting your controler
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>>379158610
>even in the best ending he fucking dies.
then its not the best ending especially if she still fucking lives
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>>379157997
>>379158002
yeah I get what you mean, but since I don't care about their mobile game or even the greater Fate extended universe, I'm not tired of seing original Saber yet. Rin is an awesome girl too, was expecting her to be an Asuka expy and she turned out great.

>>379158062
It's been some years since I played the VN, but wasn't she responsible for the fall of her kingdom? Being so autistic about muh honor that the knights of the round table as well as her people slowly grew more and more distant from her, to the point of having a civil war. I like it when she can rest a bit after all that shit.

She's also always polite and nice, and I know it's stupid but I also find her food addiction funny.

Now that I think about it, she doesn't have that much character traits
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>>379158236
>have a happy romance with Sakura
Enjoy raising Shinji's son.
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>>379158707
I don't even think she can get preggo. Think the worms took care of that.
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>>379158979
man. what a fucking failure
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>>379146845
Final Fantasy Tactics starts as this, between lawful good Ramza and chaotic good Wiegraf, but then the plot gets gobbled up by angels and demons.
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>>379158236
Yeah Sakura really gets the short end of the stick. If only her dad wasn't such a huge ass. It would be cool if we could have normal sakura alongside rin in a happier alternate reality.
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S.T.A.L.K.E.R.
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>>379159286
that pic
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>alice
>good
No one that stupid can be considered a good person
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>>379158979
yep
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>>379146845
Arc Rise Fantasia for a good chunk
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>>379159329
Hah! was it the filename?
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>>379159691
why you asking?
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>>379159792
>>379159691
oh god tumblr
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>>379159792
Oh wait you're upset about the hair color change arn't you eh
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>>379159968
no

its the faces that looks fucked up
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>>379159915
I don't rename pictures from the internet anon do you? maybe I should rename them all to tumbler 1234 from now on
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>>379157710
Castlevania
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>>379160123
it dont help the tumblr face going on in that pic
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>tfw book 4 not out
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>>379160227
Eh collateral damage ill try to avoid it in the future
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>>379160389
just stop trying to make us like her

she is a cunt and she will alway be a cunt
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>>379146845
>bargain bin Fate
No thanks.
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>>379160452
>bargain bin Fate
how? fate is already a garbage bin
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>>379160439
You have yet to explain why she's a cunt. You can dislike her but it's retarded to just call her a cunt. If you just didn't read the VN then say so.
>>
Is there anything with a similar scale to LoGH? I've watched 12 kingdoms, Kemono no Souja Erin, Saiunkoku Monogatari, and Fushigi Yuugi.
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>>379160568
because she is a character that i am ment to feel like i should protect her and also hate her but it didnt really work so her and many others are just cunts
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>>379160994
>meAnt
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>>379160227
What's a tumblr face?
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>>379161636
its a redraw with a more western looking face that looks like shit on the character
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