looking for a decent MMORPG to fill that empty feeling of not

>>379145656
There's no such MMO. The reason you love WoW so much is because it was your first MMO, nothing will ever feel the same to you

>>379145898
that sad realization.

>>379145656
Theres a few you can play.

If you're looking for more skill-based combat, Tera or Vindictus might be up your alley as they're ARPG's. Tera is more ezmode dressup with a shitty story, but Vindictus is more of a Korean grindfest but with a pretty good story if you can forgive the rare bits of terrible voice acting and want to read walls of text.

Other than that, >>379145898 is right. You won't EVER have that kind of feeling again for an MMO.

>>379145656
play warmane they released a tbc server a week or two ago and their icecrown wotlk server is fun but full of Filipinos

FFXI is worth playing, as long as you avoid the cancerous endgame grindfest.

Worst grind in any MMO that I can think of, it's absolutely absurd how arbitrary the requirements are for late game equipment, especially these days.

FFXIV may be shit, but at least you don't have to sell your soul to get an end game weapon.

>>379146172
it's only kara though, who gives a shit

>>379146172
>>379146047
pretty much this, just play wow private servers

ideally if you have a crew to roll with but its like any version of wow, you can have fun playing solo and finding groups

By the time you get sick of one server you'll find a new one to play, its never ending

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>>379145898
>not playing space Diablo

Elysium WoW

>>379146381
Inb4 memes.

Kronos Twinstar, we have the best scripts

>>379146196
How does XI compare to XIV? I've heard it hasn't aged well.
>>379146340
played on nostalrius for awhile

>>379146381
what is this?

>>379146451
>Elysium WoW
rate on elysium?

looking for a MMORPG that will result in me having stories to post on /v/ 5 years from now

>>379146765
EvE online

>>379146743
its effectively nost but not as good desu, its a solid vanilla server all round

id say the admins arent as good (lol) as nost and the pops a bit lower but its your best option for vanilla

warmane just released their TBC server(s) and its pretty big, gummycraft might come out soon

theres a wotlk server thats in beta atm too tahts supposed to be the 'be all end all' of wotlk servers

>>379146591
in FFXI you hit level 10, and then do nothing but grind to cap in parties because there is no solo content.

Also, good luck getting your subclass without someone to help you.

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>>379145898
Except any MMO with decent combat catches my interest, and they could hold it if they had sandbox content.

See
>>379146381
>>379146591
..EVE Online has this 3rd person jet combat that no other game has, not to mention the economy.

>>379146841
Fuck off wheniminspace. No one plays that shit no mo.

>>379145656
The only mmo worth playing is eso

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Guild Wars 2 still has a solid playerbase
The fact that it's subscription free let's me pick it up and drop it when I'm in a MMORPG mood anytime I want.

>>379147084
The meme/stereotype around EVE is that it's extremely time consuming/can be pay to win, truth to this?
>>379147132
been thinking about ESO, thoughts on grinding and end game stuff? want to enjoy the grind.

>>379147084
Except you "play" Eve Online about as often as you update your spreadsheets.

90% of doing nothing, 5% doing something, 4% doing something worthwhile, and you live for the 1% where you did something so kick ass it's worthy of a story.

It isn't worth it to play for that 1%.

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>>379146887
>all you had to do was tell me the rate.

I don't want to play a kara/gruul server. I already played that wotlk server 5 years ago

>>379146591
XI has aged fine, it's just not a WoW-clone MMO, it's an older RPG similar to Everquest, but with its own style and mechanics.

I like XIV, but it's a much more shallow experience compared to XI, which has far more complexity in the job classes, how you fight in a party, with skillchains / magic bursts and whatnot.

It's worth playing if you like JRPGs, it's story and lore are pretty great and well done, and the world of Vana'diel is worth exploring at least once.

You can do almost everything solo these days, except the end game content like omen or ambuscade, which you can still solo on easier difficulties.

They have made a lot of changes, FFXI is definitely not the game it was 10 years ago, but at its core it's still the same experience, but with travel being MUCH easier than it was in the past, with numerous types of teleports to almost every zone in the game, as well as a faster leveling system such that you can max you level with these things called "Trusts" which are NPCs that are based on story characters that you can form your own parties with to battle solo.


It's worth playing for a month or two at least to just play through the story missions, and get to lvl 99 and have fun playing the different jobs, but aside from that I would still say avoid the end game content unless you really enjoy the game because the grind is so fucking awful it sucks all the fun out of the game.

>>379147129
planeshift

>>379147129
>reverse-shilling
It often has 20-40k characters on the shared, single-realm server.

>>379147274
Where do you get this information? All you have to do to find a fight is to undock from a tradehub.

>>379147238
Pay-to-win is a complete myth. The stereotype is truthfully only a half-truth.

You can get into some great fights early on if you join the right corp (read: guild). It also is pretty time-consuming when you put effort into playing by your lonesome and try to man-mode whatever you see, but that is what corps are for.

To put the stereotype more accurately: You've so much to learn in such a short time that you'll never be a competent pilot without an assload of help.

>>379146912
Wrong, everything, all of the low level content can be soloed with ease these days with Trusts. The game is too fucking easy these days, even the higher level content isn't that difficult, but it's just time consuming to max out job points (the newer Merit point system basically). Merits are a joke today, you can cap them in a few hours though.

Literally you can get ~10k exp per kill if you're fighting very tough to IT enemies, and doing it with trusts makes it so goddamn easy it's not even funny. You can level up to 99 in a day or two easily if you're really dedicated.

If you play on a server like Asura there's many players that will help newer people unlock subjobs / limit breaks, I've done so for quite a few people over the last few weeks that came back to XI due to the anniversary.

>>379147418
Whereas 5 years ago it had WELL over 200k at any given time. The game has effectively died with the amount of bots and multiboxers going around.

Take it from a Broski who helped with the Fountain war and who played for 7 years straight. I know exactly what I'm talking about.

>>379145656
>Blizzard will never relaunch wow from vanilla to mid wotlk, after which they develop new content that never goes the Cata way

>>379147576
>200k online
No.

>>379147238

>The meme/stereotype around EVE is that it's extremely time consuming/can be pay to win, truth to this?
it can be p2w if you sink hundreds of dollars with a precise planning already prepared
needless to say, it's not, but it is time consumming, the game is basically "manage your time in the best possible way to make the game play itself to get the most stuff in tht shortest time"
it's f2p, no reason to not try it

>been thinking about ESO, thoughts on grinding and end game stuff? want to enjoy the grind.
ESO is basically skyrim online, with all the flaws and qualities, but the grinding is pretty satisfying since you have a tons of skills and jobs to get

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Play at a silky smooth 14 FPS on your Witcher 3 PC alongside thousands of other people that would rather solo or shit all over whatever you're trying to accomplish together. Maybe attempt to join a guild filled with whores and their orbiters, be sure to join their discord and listen to them spout memes and whine the whole time.

>>379147586
alright with me. I've played V/BC/WotLK private servers, found that the fun memories I had were from the first time experiencing them. rose colored glasses are real. blizzard keeps printing money with normal WoW so they don't give a fuck to go Jagex's way (yet)

>>379145656
Black Desert Online

>>379146381
EVE's character creation is ridiculous and pointless.

I'm pretty confidant it was only designed specifically into tricking new players into thinking it might be a compelling game rather than a spreadsheet simulator where you need to do what your corporation tells you like a good little drone if you want to be involved in anything cool.

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>>379147975
>Black Desert Online
all reviews are saying it installs a rootkit on the hard drive.

>>379148101
I'll take the rootkit for the fun times

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>>379147238
ESO is breddy gud as of late. Sucked dick at launch, but the devs have more or less addressed all the problems ppl had with it.Morrowind expansion is nice if you liked TES 3. You can grab it for pretty cheap if you look for keys.

>>379147274
>90% of doing nothing, 5% doing something, 4% doing something worthwhile, and you live for the 1% where you did something so kick ass it's worthy of a story.
>It isn't worth it to play for that 1%.

But that's every MMO ever.

>>379147238
>>379148667

>>379147680

>>379147467
That's a massive change. Last time i played XI was back in 2006, and it was pure grind.

>>379145656
The genre is fucking dead, you can count on it sucking dick until an actual WoW killer appears out of the fog to slay the beast.

>>379148667
Is the new class any fun? The main problem I had is I just felt like I couldn't find any role that I found fun with the other three but I also don't really understand the "build" mechanics of ESO either.

>>379150913
Warden is nice. It's full of utility. You can heal and tank fairly decently with it. Though my warden is just DPS atm. I like the bear reminds me of the ranger in GW2.

>>379145656
MMOs are dead. You have two bad options. Uthgard which is an unofficial DAoC server that is pre ToA or Everquest which just recently launched a progression server that will stop at planes of power. Other than that all you have to look forward to is Korean dog shit and kickstarter scams.

Seriously fuck Blizzard. I wish ill on them and their families.

>>379151109
SWGEmu

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>>379148101
It's not fun even if you're willing to let something like that get installed on your system; not to mention the game doesn't have a working friends list. Let that speak to the quality of everything else in BDO.

>>379146340
>have fun playing solo
>on private servers
Good luck having "fun" playing with minmaxing autists.

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>>379147084

>>379145656
stop playing mmos
the invasion of normies, minmaxing autists and solofags have ruined them forever

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>>379151109
WoW and FF14 go hand in hand. FF14 is carrying the torch too. Wickedly time consuming, everybody jerking themselves over muh superior trivial game knowledge, yawning while spamming keys off CD and droning through mechanics copypasted from WoW.

But muh final fantasy theme! No better than Tortanic/ESO/WoW players and they all sound the same even just from skimming the catalog and browsing mmo threads. Toshi Kaido Nippon saving the industry! How many Ul'Kuthans have you slain with your Dongwang? My level 60 catgirl has the cutest hot dog legs~ Dude AUT is shit, ISM has imperial awareness which makes ASP clears a breeze you skub loving shitter abloobloo

>>379148667
>tfw just pulled a clutch tank for /tesog/ trial run earlier tonight
feels good.

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>>379145656
probably already been said but with the GCD issue in FFXIV you can play monk or ninja to make up for it, they're a lot faster than all the other classes when it comes to button pushing
assuming you still have the free trial active try leveling up pugilist/monk for a while, at least until you get greased lightning 2
if you enjoy that then you'll love ninja, since that class combines the speed of the third greased lightning tier alongside keeping your attention on your mudras (quick button combinations to pull off various attacks or buffs)
however you'd have to play ninja until about 45 before you even are able to go sanic fast so until then it'd be a major pain in the ass

t. ninja and monk player in FFXIV

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blade and soul is cool

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>>379145656
It's funny because Azshara was fucked up just like WoW itself.

>tfw playing and enjoying ESO
>tfw will totally buy stormblood and story + job level boosts as well

tfw having fun

>>379145656
there isnt one. Take this opportunity to drop this cursed genre for good. There wont ever be another good MMORPG, MOBAs have overtaken it.

>>379146887
Any release date on gummy and that other wotlk server?
How's warmane's tbc server?

>>379146381
>Excell is now a game

>>379158669
MOBAs are fucking casual garbage tho

>>379158669
>There wont ever be another good MMORPG
A man can hope.

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>>379145898
I'd say pretty much this, not by the fact that such thing as a good MMO is impossible, but because a good MMO was never attempted. Bad design decisions and low quality is the norm so nobody ever thinks about doing something different.

>>379145898
I loved Nost and it wasnt my first MMO

Vanilla is just better than modern MMOs

>>379145898
I don't buy this. I think if you an invest your time into an MMO you'll get that feeling again. It's not a one time thing, Nostaliga comes with time but it's not something you stop feeling

>>379145898
This.
Let it go OP. It's over, for now.

>>379145656
Tree of Savior

I'd like to try TESO before buying it but there is no trial period. Thing is none of my friends want to play mmos and I'm afraid I'll get bored alone.

>>379161519
They have free weekends occasionally it also has the least cancerous mmo general on /vg/

Just wait 10-20 years for virtual reality MMOs

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>>379145656
>>379145898
Playing WoW is like the Vietnam of our time, some people played it and got changed forever, just remember that no MMORPG will ever be the same. You can try, but you will never fill the void inside you that's missing.

>>379145656
The next generation of MMOs are soon upon us.

Games like ashes of creation and star citizen will at least reinvent the wheel a bit. Blacks Desert does this new thing a little bit.

I would say wait. A lot of grand and new things comming out in the next couple of years.

>>379162527
Those are probably the worst examples you could've picked, anon. Both ashes of creation and star citizen are kikestarter vaporware trash

>>379162667
Mayhaps. I didnt say they were any good, just that they do things diffrently. Besides, we still have about 10 years before they come out.

>>379162667
Every Kickstarter MMO just reeks of being a cash grab to appeal to a dead genre.

All of them have some gimmick/have had their development process transparent because kickstarter and its shown it to be a fucking shitheap.

>>379147576
>Whereas 5 years ago it had WELL over 200k at any given time. The game has effectively died with the amount of bots and multiboxers going around.
Bullshit. I've been playing since 2012 and the most I've ever seen is 47k

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>>379162527
I wish I was as dumb as you are, life would be happier.

>>379163829
What do you mean

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>>379147084
>this same fucking webm
You made a thread for this before that thread failed because EvE is as engaging as watching paint dry.

>>379164108
Actually falling for the crowdfunded MMOs on the horizon as being anything more than a shameless cash grab.

>>379145656
Play ESO. Best theme park MMO out there.

>>379164367
Can't say that on /v/.

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>>379145898
>What WoWfags tell themselves when they can't admit their game simply went to shit

>>379164538
the whole genre has went to shit

>>379164597
WoW ruined the genre so it's only fair

>>379164308
Never said they were anything good. Just that they do something diffrent.

Chill nigger.

>>379145656
If you have some hour to burn each day I'd suggest you try out the Project 1999 EQ server.

>>379164619
it wasn't WoW that caused it, it was the normalization of videogames and the internet, the invasion of normies who don't give a shit about online interactions, solofags and minmaxers

it's not a coincidence non-MMO videogame quality also took a massive dip in quality at around the same time WotLK was released

Blizzard merely adapted to the environment and started designing the game targetting those people as the main audience for maximum profits

>>379165086
>implying Vanilla WoW/TBC was good for the MMO genre.

>>379164538
not him but classic wow was a mess, I remember charging cloth classes as a warrior with enrage procc'd (+40% dmg son) and 2 hitting them easily with zul gurub + MC gear

If I had a healer or they were distracted I could mop down 3-4 dudes no problem thanks to sweeping strikes and unlimited rage from them tickling me

It was pretty fun but I don't think I would play such a unbalanced mmo nowadays
I raided as a hunter and they were pretty bad both in pvp and raiding
TBC was a bit better but resillience was stupid

>>379164698
all of the ashes of creation assets are bought off the unreal store and their "gameplay" videos have no gameplay and are chopped together like frankenstein.
star citizen has million dollar stretch goals to add a new spaceship to it.

>>379158895
Gummy open beta starts in a few days, it's rumored to be about 6-8 weeks long and then release.

The 5x server is mostly a fun server with soon coming cash shop that allows you to buy any items of any cleared content by a certain number of players, the 1x seems alright but kind of doubtful it will live with gummy on the horizon.

>hit 110
>get to welfare island
>get ilevel to do raidfinder
>nothing drops
fuck me

why dont you just wait for ashes of creation

it's the only mmo on the horizon with any hope of being good (and it still might suck)

>>379165120
>implying Vanilla WoW/TBC was good for the MMO genre.
Vanilla WoW WAS great at the time. I'd played a lot of MMO's prior, and WoW felt like a watershed moment for the genre on release. It was balanced and polished to a level that its contemporaries couldn't dream of.

Now of course the view is contaminated with a decade of hindsight, changes in the game, and improvements to the formula made by it and other games.

>>379166813
Are you really saying "balanced"? Vanilla WoW definitely had a feeling of polish about it over time that people would come to expect from brand new launched MMOs (despite Vanilla WoW launching in a terrible state that everyone forgets) but balanced was not part of it.

>>379166136
What do you mean

>>379167610
https://youtu.be/eys7O5uydk4?t=21m51s

>>379145898
>wow was the biggest mmo of your generation
>you didnt really get into it
>played mmos before wows inception, watched the industry turn into wow clones
>still had fun but now everyone acts like mmos are shit games and have no merit except wow
Anyone else like this?

>>379168429
I started with WoW and I feel like that after qutting WoW and trying other MMOs. It's very obvious that WoW's success quashed any creativity in largescale MMOs for the better part of a decade and just now we are starting to see small crowdfunded sandbox MMOs and companies making hybrid games like Destiny/Division with themepark PvE elements.

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>>379147137
>Log in
>See people with cool armor
>It costs 10$
>See people with cool weapons
>You have to buy RNG chests
>Log out