Why aren't more games in first person? It's so obviously

>>379098431
>Playing games with first person perspective
>ever
kys

>>379098757
Why would you bar yourself from playing hundreds of games?

>>379098431
It's only good if you have a PC.
Controllers suck for first person.

>>379098431
I agree, every game would be better if it was in first person.

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>immersion fags

>>379098431
My body does not look like that and I would never stand on a ledge. Immersion lost.

I actually think it's trash for immersion

For the simple reason that you have zero body awareness that you unconsciously use IRL and the FOV will never represent accurately what the human eye actually sees

>first person body
>no bouncing tits
>no swinging dick
>can't scratch yourself
IMMERSION RUINED

>>379098431
>immersion
>something that matters
Are you actually autistic?

>>379098431
>immersion
who gives a fuck about that?
I'd rather have a game with good gameplay, or good story, or even good music over an "immersive" "experience".
Only faggots trying to escape from reality care about immersion.

>>379100864
good gameplay = immersive tho you fucking INBRED HICK

You just want to see your body when you look down, but that shit is a lot of work and a bunch of perspective bullshit. Most FPS games have you being a floating pair of arms with eyes.

>>379100950
>good gameplay = immersive
that makes no sense anon.

>>379100024
Explain why there have been improvements to production values since the 70s then if it doesn't matter.

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>>379101349

I'm reminded of No Man's Sky where they made a big deal about finding out what your character looked like, but people who ripped the game files found what was essentially a lego man on a unicycle.

>>379098431
Because i can't see heroine's ass in 1st person.

>>379101370
it does anon use your brain for ONCE in your GODDAMN life im so sick and tired of you NEVER using it

>>379101712
>wanting to stare at your own ass
Narcissism / autism at its finest.

>>379098431
>immersive

Oh yea anon, because irl i regularly walk on that forwards, backwards, strafe axis. Fisrt Person is just SO real life! Especialy those ones where i walk with my hands always outstreached no matter what in my clear line of vision no matter what speed i run at.

>>379102237
It's more immersive than third person still. There's nothing to debate.

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>>379102491
Hmm...

>>379102491
Being able to see more of the body at the same time helps you identify with it more unless you're an autist who lacks basic human empathy

>>379102105
>self-inserting

>>379101728
okay, explain how starcraft, doom, tetris, devil may cry, and mario are immersive.

>>379102550
How the fuck can you think otherwise? You don't see yourself in third person in life unless you're psychotic.

>>379102841
You are the one pressing buttons and doing things, not someone else, you autist. Just by playing you have to "self-insert"

>>379102862
starcraft utilizes UI that fits the general concept and theme, as well as applying voice effects all to immerse you in this space world full of ugly vaginas
doom does the same, there's so much blood to immerse you into the fact you're a fucking monster beast tearing demons to shreds
tetris wouldn't be nearly as immersive if it was a bunch of pastel colors and was horizontal

its the little things sweaty, you do realize immersion != realism? probably not

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>>379102931
I also don't move, strafe, jump, use hands, turn my body, crouch, have false perspective or ANYTHING the way FPS game pretend that i, as a normal human being do. People are getting sick of the FPS meme anon. It's stale. It's boring. This thread is literally full of people calling you a faggot. It really is not us anon, it's you.

>>379103043
Brilliant logic. Of course i have to press buttons in game, which doesn't mean i am involved in the story. It's like watching a movie and doing trivial stuff.

>>379103397
>playing games is like watching movies
Please fuck off to another board permanently.

>>379103607
Self-inserting at its finest.

>>379098431
Because once upon a time, a retard just like you said, "Why aren't more games in Third Person? It's so obviously the best perspective for FUN."

So retarded developers listened.

>>379103169
And how is any of that gameplay anon?
Remember, you're the one saying "good gameplay=immersion"


>tetris wouldn't be nearly as immersive if it was a bunch of pastel colors and was horizontal
You surely realize that there a millions of different tetris versions that use different colors, right

>>379103858
Fun > immersion

>>379103043
sure enjoy self-inserting as tetris pieces anon
or as the little dinosaurs in bubble bobble

>>379103938
They're the same shit, any fun activity will be immersive especially if it's challenging and demands a lot of concentration. "Immersion" is a vague term that doesn't refer to anything in particular.

>>379104019
>>379103802
>>379103043
>>379102841

Is self-inserting the new meme here at vee?

>>379104019
What retarded argument is this? These are fucking decades old games. What immerses us has changed over the years since tech, design practices and dev tools have become vastly better.

>>379104114
This sure is a shit thread.

>>379104205
EVERYTHING IN /V/ IS A SHIT THREAD!

>>379104196
That would work if the tetris blocks were meant to be representations of something and not just abstract shapes

rolling a character in the first person makes me sick, everytime i see it..

>>379104205
We are the most depressing board here on 4chin.

>>379104019
SELF-INSERTING =/= IMMERSION

Just like how you still get off when a giant black man is in your gfs pussy you dumb bitch.

>>379098431
It's great for porn games
I can get fucked like the whore I am~

>>379104514
Why does he got to be black?

>>379103368
>trying this hard
Yeah, no one is saying first person is perfect but it's still more immersive. More, anon. Do you know what that word means? Do you understand the concept of relativity? I don't think that you do.

First person games still come out all the time and sell millions, so I'm not sure what this ridiculous tyrade you're going on about is even on.

>>379104196
Sure enjoy immersing myself as a spreadsheet analyzer in grand strategy games

>>379104578
Post tits or midriff or GTFO

>>379104312
Naw, Heather Mason, waifu, Resident Evil, thinly vield tomboy and now, Tekken threads are usually pretty comfy.

>>379104514
>SELF-INSERTING =/= IMMERSION
read the chain of replies, dumbass

If you're not the idiot who post>>>
>>379103043
>You are the one pressing buttons and doing things, not someone else, you autist. Just by playing you have to "self-insert"

then don't reply

>>379104729
ahhh, I remember this maymay. Takes me back in time when you were gay.

>>379104486
Literally if you use the computer for anything other then school/work, online shopping, or watching netflix, you're a pathetic loser

>>379104486
Nah that's /gif/ followed by /pol/. Look at both in succession and you're ready to kill yourself.

>>379098431
Depends on the game. First person is good for precise aiming, but third person allows you to view your surroundings better, which, generally speaking, is more broadly useful. Immersion is only relevant in something like a VR game, or MAYBE a horror game, but aside from that, your level of immersion isn't important in the slightest.

>>379104658
>all that shit you wrote
>its still just your opinion

I disagree. I find FPS extremely the opposite. I just can't buy into it so there. Sorry this triggers you so. Im not trying to troll you, its just my opinion and many others opinion here too clearly. Its cool that you like FPS games, but you are advocating that all games might as well just be fps too. No.

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>>379098431
better question
>why don't more FP games have an actual rendered lower body?

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>>379098431
I prefer 3rd person
How else am I supposed to stare at qts and their butts

>>379104840
Stop projecting.

>>379104763
>Waifu

Can you do me a favor? Can you go to a gun store, buy a shotgun (any kind), buy 1 shell, drive back to your moms basement, load the shotgun, stick it as far as you can up your ass and pull the trigger?

>>379104989
No one is buying into it. But I am surprised that there are still so many people that prefer playing third person games. You haven't done anything to actually contribute to that discussion, you've just been shitposting with an "us vs. them" mentality.

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>>379105142
Sorry anon, i may not agree with waifu fags but they are popular as fuck and people like em. Sorry.

>>379105496
So are you going to do it or not?

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>>379098431
Gameplay often suffers from first person, because it has to compensate for the many drawbacks compared to third person.

It makes it harder to see your surroundings and your characters positioning, it also makes it a lot harder to understand how more complex character movements and actions interact with the environment and enemies making almost all action oriented genres impossible to play on a higher level without changing the foundation of their gameplay.

Doesn't mean first person hasn't its advantages, many horror games actually gain a lot by how differently you have to play and explore the game.

>>379105408
Sorry anon, if you are OP you asked a question, you get a gucking answer. Some games are FPS games, some aren't. Do they ALL need to be? Fuck no. So far you have just spouted your opinion and that you really really like FPS games so why can't everyone else get on board. Sometimes i don't always want to play in the first person perspective, sometimes i don't want to self insert with a forced shitty character creation slider. Sometimes i do. Fuck anon, you are just being inflexible.

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>>379105619
Naw

>>379105891
Then fuck you.

>>379105789
You sound really gay.

>>379106143
Not an argument, wow what a shit thread. Im fucking out.

>>379098431
Doesn't work well with controllers

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How am I going to view my army and determine the best position and formation in first person?

Vidya as an intricate toy is more interesting than "immersive" garbage for escapists.

Because 3rd person does not require an fov to be specific

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3rd person is genuinely more immersive for me because I might start caring about the character while no amount of tricks can make me actually believe than I'm inside the game world.

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Try VR

>>379109236
>summer lesson
so it is worth getting a PSVR just for this game?

>>379104701
>he doesn't roleplay as a positivist military dictator in Vicky 2
really?

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We all know the real reason you want this.

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>>379109304
Not really. The game's just about selecting lessons for a schoolgirl and the player character is a display option, nothing in game.

>>379109685
Yes but will it make me feel like I'm falling in love with the girl?