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>childhood friend winning at the end Why childhood friends

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>childhood friend winning at the end

Why childhood friends always end up being best girls?
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>>379068962
childhood friends are pure
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>>379068962
Depends
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CHILDHOOD FRIEND ALWAYS WINS, BABY
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>>379069117
That's kinda hot
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>>379068962
オルタマダー?
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>>379068962
>childhood friend cursing MC to be looped back in time only to be tortured and broken over and over until she eventually wins in the end
worst girl
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>>379068962
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>>379069869
>not original flavor
What's the point?
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>>379069743
Wait, what?

I just started Muv-Luv. The main character is being introduced to the person who was in his bed last night.

What are you talking about?
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>>379069117
girls being cucked makes me really sad
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>>379070182
GET OUT OF THIS THREAD RIGHT NOW
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>>379068962

>winning

She died.
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>>379070182
You probably shouldn't check out a thread for an older very popular VN if you haven't actually played it.
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>>379070182
How do you not know what happens in MuvLuv is all about at this point
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>>379070182
leave this thread
leave this board
stay away until you finish
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>>379070182

FLEE YOU FOOL
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>>379068962
Maybe in NTR stuff. Vanilla is so fucking boring, even worse when it's muh childhood friend vanilla.
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>>379070317
Not him but as popular as this game is, I don't think i've seen much spoilers by this community.
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>>379070182
Everybody dies
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>>379070431
I mean, I knew I wasn't spoiled much either but I at least knew it had something to do with mechas
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>>379070182
Leave this board right now.
You're allowed to come back when you finish the Trilogy.

For everyone else, Kimi Ga Nozomu Muv-Luv part 4 was released today.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j13KqYXZLWY

The other parts can be found here.

http://kiminozo.life/
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>>379069117
I don't get it. Did the brunette kill the blonde?
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>>379069117
Did the blonde run away?
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>>379068962
MEIYA BEST GIRL
GET FUCKED
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>>379070803
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>>379070182
Sumika quietly loves protag-kun but he doesn't share the sentiment
World gets conquered by aliens, they connect Sumika to their network for reasons I can't remember, shave down her body to be basically just a brain and spinal cord kept alive artificially
Since Sumika is now connected to their network she gets special reality warping powers
She still loves protag-kun and hopes he rescues her somehow, even though that's completely unrealistic
This somehow makes it so that whenever this realities protag-kun dies his life gets reset and transported to a different reality where he gets to go through the whole thing again with all his memories intact
This "loop" keeps going until you do actually manage to rescue Sumika and through the countless repetitions slowly fall in love with her too

She basically fucked him over hardcore, manipulated him, and had him get tortured, mind broken, and forced him to watch the end of the world over and over all just for some selfish crush
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>>379068962
yeah osananajimi is the best
:^)
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>>379070317
Not him but I finished Muv Luv last year and I didn't get really get spoiled except for what happens to Marimo. I knew it was coming and yet I was still shaken.
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>>379071065
>I knew it was coming and yet I was still shaken.
gee I wonder why.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5JICa_ZxBk
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But the childhood friend always loses out to that one girl who you met as a child but haven't seen again until they transferred back into your high school, or you transferred into theirs.
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>>379069117
Girls being cucked makes me really hard. It's so criminally underrated and the world is a worse place for it.
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Meiya is the best girl
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>>379068962
Sumika a shit
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Reminder that Kasumi is the cutest.
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>>379068962
>literally a brain in a jar
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>>379072069
More like braindead in the jar.
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>>379070768
Passed away
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>>379070863
That's actually pretty hot. Puts every psycho stalker chick to shame.
Shame she doesn't have a pussy.
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>>379068962
>>379069869
>>379070000
>>379070651
>>379071816
Oh god. It's such a bad sign when you haven't played the game in reference but know what the twizzlers reference is.

>>379070000
Nice quads
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Any day now...
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>>379072392
?
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>>379068962
>alien cocksleeve
>best girl
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>>379072559
Alternative's official release, I suspect.
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I fapped to the twizzler scene
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>>379070182
Have fun anon!
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>>379070431
The game isn't that popular though. It's only well known around the visual novel community and that's it. Hell, the only reason why it's even a name on 4chan is because weeb shit is always talked about. Even for people who aren't normies it's not that big of a title.
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>>379073156
That's good for you. Couldn't get hard at all after finishing alternative for like a good week.
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>>379073220
What makes Meiya so perfect?
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I wish I was into VN's, because this sounds pretty fucked up.
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>>379073506
Just play some like ML or Yu-no and don't bother with everything else.
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>>379070651
>MFW $300 backer of the ML KS
>MFW Still waiting for the official Alternative localization so my purchase will be justified
>MFW It feels like I'm going to die before I get my rewards
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>>379073467
I'm still angry this isn't translated yet.
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>>379073506
Yeah, VN's can be pretty alienating, like a lot of Japanese media.
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>>379073506
If you've watched subbed anime then Muv-Luv isn't that big of a leap. With the way Muv-Luv is done it mostly just ends up being like anime with more talking about even less animation.
Then again you'd probably bail out by the time you got to lacrosse in Extra.
>>379073668
Soon™
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>>379073668
Same, but I'm in no rush to get my rewards. Codex maybe, but I can wait for final product. Getting all those PS3 version assets, extra scenes and not to mention side stories translated make all this wait worth it for me.
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>>379073668
I'm fine knowing that one day I'll come home to find a giant box of ML stuff at my door.
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>>379073731
I like them more when they're more like games. Like Danganronpa, Zero Escape or Corpse Party. Not saying these are particularly good, but they have gameplay to them.
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>>379073506
There are lots of great VN's if you take the time to read them Saya No Uta is one of the easy ones to get into it's short and there aren't many choices
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>>379073416
It's still a baby's first vn so relatively its very popular.
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>>379073506
Just put them on auto read and its like watching an anime.
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>>379074494
Instant text speed skipping voices once I've read the line master race
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>>379074414
Baby's firsy vn is the fate series. Even for VNs there are other more well known 'games'. I'd even go as far to say that the Rance series has come to eclipse it.
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We all agree that Mitsuki is a whore, right?
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>>379070182
A fucking overrated mess.
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>>379073668
>intelligence below average
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>>379074725
Yeah mitsuki is a whore but not based LT Hayase.
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Let me tell you why this game is shit

1. It took fucking FOREVER. Even though it's a simple, uncomplicated storyline, they mange to drag this shit out for about 50 fucking hours. Only about 20 of those had anything significant happening, the rest was filled with loldeep moral faggotry and fucking lectures on stupid shit. Not to mention EXPLAINING character development. "This is what happened, this is how I felt before, this how it changed me, blah, blah, blah..." SHUT THE FUCK UP! Yeah, I saw what fucking happened, you don't have to explain it. You're literally undermining any actual character development this game had.

2. THE FUCKING MC! Has to be the most unlikeable retarded fuck in the history in VN history. Spends Extra being a stuck up, arrogant, dick. Spends Unlimited being a unless little bitch. Spends 1/3 of Alternative being an arrogant faggot thinking how better he is than the people who actually changed him from a useless little bitch to someone not utterly useless, giving them lectures, and generally talking about how he's right and they're wrong. THEN, at the first sign of trouble he instantly reverts back to whiny little useless bitch literally pissing in his pants. Then basically spends the rest of the game being pretty fucking useless and retarded. 1. MC: I'm so much more grown up now. That last event really changed me. 2. Other character: But that's wrong you fucking retard 3. Oh how foolish I was! I'm still a child 4. Rinse 5. Repeat. This cycle literally went on till the very last second of the game.
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>>379074802
holy shit, it really is terrible without voice acting
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>>379070724
you don't understand flowers can mean death?
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>>379075085
and here's the copypasta
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>>379074414
Its popular but its not baby's first VN. Baby's usually don't even make it through Extra because they read the whole lacross arc when they could just skip that bullshit
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>>379075138
should've thought that one out.
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>>379070182
You will find out in the sequel
Now, GET THE HELL OUT OF THIS THREAD (to avoid spoilers)
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>>379068962
>Why childhood friends always end up being best girls?
Damn straight they are
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>>379071065
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Does the girl enjoy getting twizzler'd?
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>>379070863
>through her love, grants him reality-warping pseudo-immortality
>fucked him over hardcore

All the awful bullshit already happened/was going to happen anyway, but at least this way he gets to become a groundhogday ubermensch, save the world, and get the girl in the end instead of just randomly dying horribly. Seems to be a net positive, really.


>>379073731
I've read/played through a few and at first I thought it was just a Nasu/TypeMoon problem but they all seem to be in desperate need of an editor or ten to prune the redundant shit down a bit. I don't have any trouble reading lengthy novels but a lot of VN's read like verbal diarrhea.
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>>379075676
Have tried Akai Ito/Aoishiro? I'm curious how you'd feel about them.
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>>379075486
>Her route is objectively the worst route
That automatically makes Kasumi shit.
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>>379075676
Everything he does has absolutely zero relevance in the grander scheme of things. Saying he "saved the world" is a huge exaggeration, at best he suffered through all that bullshit and countless lives to give humanity on one single version of Earth an extra 5 years before their extinction.
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>>379068962
>girl volunteers her time to help her friends.
>never gets thanked or invited to the hot springs
>doesn't get an H scene or route in the main games
>gets shit on in the other universe.

Why is kashiwagi so ignored in this series?
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>>379074725
Did the MC dump her or something?
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>>379070317
I played it about a year ago and all I knew about it was that they turned it into a war story after extra.
I didn't even know it had mechs or aliens either. The only images I saw for Muv-luv anything was Chizuru in her UN outfit and the Marine funeral from The Day After so I was expecting a conventional war the whole time. I fucking love mechs so I freaked out just like Takeru at the beginning of Unlimited.

>>379070651
Nice, I freaking love these. If you're here then thanks evan.
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>>379073668
I got the physical vita package.
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>Why childhood friends always end up being best girls?

Not always.
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>>379075128
>without voice acting
You mean without sound in general.
>>379076197
Weep for this anon, for they know as much despair as Marimo's love life.
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>>379076197
I honestly feel bad for people who picked Vita version. Hopefully they offer you a chance to change it into PC version at least.
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>>379068962
Because childhood friends know the real you, before society forced you to hide and be ashamed of your true self.
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>>379075657
She loved it.
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>>379075657
>>379076589
Don't forget that Meiya was blushing.
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>>379076197
We're fucked. You can only hope that they'll reimburse the people who choose vita physical.
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>>379075997
True best girl right here
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I wish mabu rabu would be more about fighting BETA and less about stupid whores doing stupid things.
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>>379075657
http://imgur.com/a/d9QLX
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>>379076760
>I wish a series named true love wasn't about true love
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>>379075486
But anon, Kei Sakurai is best Dies irae girl

Meiya from Muv-Luv will be my waifu forever though
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Never played this game what's it about?
How foes it compare to phoenix wright, danaganronpa, sakura no uta and stuff.
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Is the day after worth reading? I've wanted to see what was up with edgy Takeru but if its trash like all the other spinoffs then I won't bother.
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>>379075657
She wants to hate it while she is still sane but the entire point of it is the aliens trying to learn about the human body, they only keep her alive to mercilessly assault her pleasure sensors 24/7 and slowly but surely remove everything unnecessary to that effect from her body until they know enough to quite literally just go and directly trigger the synapses in her brain. So she wants to hate it but is entirely unable not to succumb to pleasure, eventually she just loses herself and only exists to feel that intense pleasure and repeat Takumi's name to herself over and over
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>>379077079
As a trilogyfag, I really liked TDA. It pains me that there wont be more translated until Kickstarter stuff is finished. Go for it anon.
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>>379077079
It's alright. It occasionally leans into fanservice with the Trilogy wank though. Edgy Takeru doesn't show up until TDA ep 02, and if you can't read Nip only TDA ep 00 and 01 are translated.
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>>379076874
>>379075486
Is this worth playing?
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>>379077678
It's free to play the common route, try it yourself and see if you like it.
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>>379077678
>Is this worth playing?
Do you like waifu games? That's what these are.
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>>379075676
>save the world
Nope. Aliens are actually robot tier organisms with the population of something^something^something which only have the task of harvesting planets to death with insane abilities. Actual aliens are somewhere in the universe/timelines doing whatever.
>get the girl
By beating the aliens he kills the girl.
>hero / leave a mark
Since girl dies you no longer have a reason to exist. Literally. The world proceeds to kick your existence out and erase all knowledge of you.
>net positive
Your past lives were living hells but you don't remember them luckily. Your current life becomes nothing and you lived through hell again as you watched people you love die.
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>>379077678
its edgy fucking nonsense, if you have like 50 hours to spare and your internet is going to be gone for a week, try it, but be warned that its really fucking bad
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>>379070651

Were do you even download the patch?
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>>379077678
If you like fantasy battle royale stories like Fate/Stay Night without the info dumps, yes.
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>>379077678
The game starts with Germans shooting themselves in the head while chanting Sieg Heil and a Nazi Vampire standing ontop a floating swatiska sucking up their souls. The main protagonist has a literal guilotine in his arm and basically every single person in the game is a lunatic psychopath.
If that sound interesting to you you'll probably enjoy it.
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>>379076990
Its about aliens, giant robots, suffering and muv luv. Its good but when people talk about this series they are mostly talking about alternative and how it connects to everything. You have to get through extra and unlimited to get to the good parts. If you play it, don't skip extra like many idiots do. Just skip the Lacross section because it drags on too long and the point of it is to show how they work together as a team.

Its a wordy VN so if you can't handle scenes with a lot of dialogue and explanations then you probably won't like it.
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>>379077678
The English version is butchered from the Japanese version, it was too hard to translate so they changed some stuff.
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>>379078050
The patch for what? Alternative? From Amaterasu's website.

http://amaterasu.tindabox.net/download.php?id=48
>>379078243
Are you saying EOPs can't understand Dies Irae at anything but a surface level?
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Is this this the VN thread?
What are you reading?
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>>379078309
I'm saying that they had to change things in the translation as it was far too hard to translate to English
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>>379078557
Lesbian spiders
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>>379078557
This is thinly veiled Muv-Luv thread

But I'm currently reading Dies irae
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>>379076114
Not yet technically. He's been seeing coma girl more often and so Mitsuki there got drunk and fucked MC's friend. After that scene you can either start your relationship with coma girl again or you can turn Mitsuki into a dog.
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>>379075138
I obviously figured that out, my question was how she died, retard.
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>Sumika won

but the point was that he ended up with all the girls and was connected to them all throughout time and fucking space.
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>>379079240
Her body expired. As in, she was MC's childhood friend's older sister who was dead in a fire years ago, but being reincarnated after having a deal with shinigami, and eventually have her soul transferred to her recently born daughter by the shinigami after her body expired.

Crazy shit.
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>>379079894
So what happened to the child? Seems kind of unfair.
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>>379079894
>Crazy shit.
Sounds like your average drama shit, except in a more realistic scenario it would be "a fragile body with a deadly disease she was overcoming all her life" or shit like that.
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>>379079831
Yes but Sumika is the Muv-Luv.
That's why she has proper kissing CGs and not just a close-up of her face.
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>>379080185
In her ending, she grew up and live happily with the MC. It's never discussed or I missed reading parts about it. The reincarnation thing only discussed in 2 routes out of 4, which is the childhood friend's older sister turned loli, and the childhood friend herself, which route is unlocked after finishing 3 other routes before her. Maybe child was born without soul, or something, I don't know.
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>>379068962
>sumika
>winning

All girls score in Extra
All girls except Sumika score in Unlimited
All girls meet their end in Alternative

Everyone else: 2
Sumika: 1
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Akai Ito/Aoishiro are probably my favorite two visual novels. Great melancholic atmosphere, high production values.
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How big of a bitch is the twin-tail with glasses?
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>>379069869

I don't get it.
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>>379068962
>tfw childhood friend killed herself.
Broken women seem to follow me.
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>>379076760

I recently played through the trilogy and was really surprised that a series mostly about fighting interstellar aliens only has you fighting the freaking aliens on the last third of the last game. As a supposed soldier in training you aren't even introduced to the aliens at all in the second one.
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>>379081435
She is right most of the time. Kei should stay in line.
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>meet as children
>aren't childhood friends

explain how this works because she's the best never the less
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>>379081130
>All girls except Sumika score in Unlimited
>All girls meet their end in Alternative
But they all die in Unlimited too, except for the girl you send off to another planet,
if you do that. Meiya lives in TDA too so make what you will of that.
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>>379081786
>all girls die in unlimited
>Pffft...ah... please excuse me.jpg
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Should I even bother with anything after Alternative?
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Would you marry her, /v/?
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>>379081775
Reading Ayamine Kei route made me feel ill because you have to reject Meiya in that park

I wanted to finish all routes, but that hurt me most.
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>>379081517
Have you played muv luv alternative?
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Tama and Kasumi are best girls.
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>>379082148

Yes.
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>>379081130
>>379081786
Though whichever girl wins in Unlimited gets to spend a few years with you before everyone is ded, versus Sumika in Alternative where the relationship only lasts a few days.
>>379082112
Sure. She's fine so long as you don't break up with her.
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>>379082046
yes because you're missing out of Von Baka
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>>379082239
Are you a qualified idiot?
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I want to fuck Michiru.
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>>379082046
Nah not really. Schawrzmarken is kind of neat but it isn't translated and the anime is pretty meh.
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What's the VN where the girl saves you from killing yourself?
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How do you feel about Daikuji?
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>>379082035
I hope Takeru crashes in her wedding with TSF at the end of TDA whenever that happens. Would be nice. Fuck Ikaruga
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>>379082035
But I just said that Meiya lives in TDA.
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The only time childhood friend shouldn't win is when there's an imouto involved.

untouchable cake > imouto > childhood friend >>>>>>>> shit "lead" girl
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>>379082402
Muv-Luv Alternative
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I've heard Muv Luv is well written but dragged down by really pointlessly indulgent gore and torture porn, and if you're not into that you should stay away. Is this accurate?
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>>379082347
Is this from those side stories that are getting translated?
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>>379083264
No. It's not particularly well written and the shock content in alternative is the main point of the fucking series.
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>>379083264

>pointless

They are extremely not pointless
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>>379083264
The gore serves a purpose and is pretty inpactful if you're willing to let yourself get sucked into the story
The twizzler scene is sort of unnecessary but is alright if you see it as a dark comedy scene
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>>379083264
The amount of gore is actually rather minimal in comparison to the total size of Muv-Luv(but anything when the trilogy can take like 80 hours to finish), even if it is incredibly important. Also I wouldn't say the prose is well-written but I'm not reading VNs for the prose.
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>>379083264
The gore isn't pointless at all.
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>>379083437
>>379083389
>>379083349
Ok so what's the purpose then?
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>>379083583
Triggering his PTSD and making him realize that he's a pussy faggot who isn't cut out to fight ayys.
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>>379083264
I doubt that even most hardcore muvluv fans call Extra well written, but I've seen plenty of praise for Unlimited and especially Alternative. Gore isnt pointless.
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Because it doesn't happen like that in real life
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>>379070000

I thought /v/ blocked repeating digits?
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>>379083663
That's kind of interesting. Sounds like the edgiest, least efficient way to do something like that but maybe I'll give it a shot. How does it do in supplying /m/ content? I've heard giant robots are involved in fighting ayys but are they just window dressing for the suffering?
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>>379083583
The purpose is to show how much fucked the humanity is and how people still manage to get something going out of it. The humanity is done for, the universe of Alternative is not fit for humans, yet people still struggle and strive to make a better living out of what they have. Also the shock content is very limited to make it more emotionally impactful.
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>>379071150

>the timing

too be honest, the only time I got mad was when NIPPON STRONK decides that now is the best time for a coup

fuck him,
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>>379076287
>Blond
>Tanned
>CAN'T SEE EYES
DANGER
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>>379083686
It's not that the writing of the lines is good, so much as the foreshadowing is well done. Also I liked how Extra, Unlimited, and Alternative contrast each other. Though the way Alternative's plot would come to a screeching halt could have been better.
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>>379083264
There isn't a single "pointlessly indulgent gore or torture" scene in these games. You probably just looked through some of the Muvluv threads just like this one and saw a couple of the same screenshots reposted again and again without context.
A lot of them are huge spoilers that will drastically impact the enjoyment you'd get from those games so there is probably no longer much point in you playing them. It's the kind of series you go in completely blind or not at all.

>>379083583
Which in particular? There's a number of different scenes that aren't exactly All Ages.
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>>379084340
come to a screeching halt so the game can infodump at you for an hour*
how did I forget that?
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>>379083962

He was an awful character in Extra, he was an awful character in Alternative.
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>>379083837
If you want to give it a shot then leave and don't come back until you beat the trilogy. Extra, Unlimited, then Alternative.
This is one of those things where the less you know the better and it's incredibly easy to spoil things.

>>379084521
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>>379084495

I knew no spoilers except someone gets eaten by a BETA, I didn't know who and I thought it was going to happen at the end of the game. Man was I taken by surprise when it actually did happen. It also doesn't help Alternative immersed me so much that it surprised the shit out of me when it happened.
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>>379084340
I agree. Foreshadowing was nice and as a Trilogy games work very well together. I really loved the characters though. There still isnt series where I love the cast as much as I do in Muv-Luv.
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>>379083962
That arc sucked but it ended well. pic related. Takeru spending most of the time wondering why that retard decided to do that shit now was when I started to like takeru a bit.
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>>379083663
Are you talking about Chomp? Because if so that was more meant as a slap in the face for Takeru to come back to his senses after he won a couple minor "victories", got overly arrogant, and failed to really realize just how wide the gap between them is.
The game up to that point plays it up as humanity finally getting a solid shot at fighting the Betas and potentially surviving, but then in just a single moment's laxness that arrogance all comes tumbling down as his senpai just seconds after finally finding hope and a place for herself gets one shot by a mere footsoldier, the lowest of the low.
I mean yes, it's shock value to some degree, but it happening is very important to the story and the MC's character development.
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Would you?
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>mfw /v/ has better muv-luv discussions than /a/ or /m/
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>>379086058

Which version?
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>>379086058
Yes if its MLA hayase.
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>>379086058
Who wouldn't, or maybe asking who couldn't is a better question because she's such a whore. I still like her more then Haruka.
>>379086102
That's because /v/ Muv-Luv threads pop up every month or so while the /a/ and /m/ threads are continuous generals that only discuss how much they want to fug the girls, and how Lise/Beatrix dindu nuffin when that pops up.
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>>379086102

/a/ muv-luv threads talk more about Total Eclipse and Schawrzmarken than Alternative.
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>>379086102
Most of /a/ doesn't have the attention span to play the trilogy and /m/ can really only talk about the tsf of it gets deleted by the janitors.
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>>379086102
/a/ threads get pruned if they get caught talking too much about the trilogy
And /m/ is dead
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>>379086058
>>379086506
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>>379086102
Alternative is old as fuck at this point, there were loads of threads when it just came out but at this point everyone that really cared discussed just about every aspect of it to death.
You only get threads like this on /v/ because a lot of people that aren't normally into VNs or Anime/Manga come here that only recently read it or it's still completely new to them.

/a/ and /m/ have plenty of discussions about the newer material.
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>>379085924
I feel like I kinda said that, but I was talking about only how it affected Takeru instead of the entire Yokohama base.
You are right though, since Yuuko stated she had the attack take place so she could get rid of the "we're behind the lines and safe" attitude on base, and it does serve as a well needed slap in the face for everyone.
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Muvluv is horribly overrated and I almost wish that I would have just skipped the entire thing. I do wish however that I hadnt met some of its fans in real life, some of the most obnoxious fucks ever.
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>>379088001

I found it funny because in the last half year I have been going through VNs I need to play and i literally finished Alternative on Thursday.
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What's the difference between muv luv and muv luv alternative?
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PTSD arc is fucking perfect. Nothing else comes close.
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>over 6 years since i read muv-luv
>meiya is still the most perfect girl i have ever seen
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What's with hate the Schawrzmarken animu gets anyway? Besides Beatrix being ruined, I haven't seen other reasons for it being shit. I thought it was decent.
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>>379088334
Muv-Luv contains Extra and Unlimited. Alternative was supposed to be included with Muv-Luv but wasn't because Age ran out of money, and it concludes the story of Love and Courage that is the Muv-Luv trilogy.
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>>379088334
>muv luv extra
MC goes to high school with designated harem tropes, choses one to fuck, H scene is awful
>muv luv alternative
MC ends in dystopian world where humanity is down to 1 billion people and tries to fight ayylmaos with said harem tropes except they're actually good characters now. Most of them. Suffering ensues, YAMATO DAMASHII keeps happening, bullying intensifies.
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>>379088521
Since the animu was an adaption of 7 LN volumes/2 VNs worth of content, it had to cut out a lot of content. A lot of people were also angry at the way Lise was depicted, since it painted her more like a villain instead of being SM's Haruka/Sumika like she should be.
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>>379086102
I want to be Marimo's dog toy in bed!
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>>379088692
You forgot Unlimited.
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>>379082347
I'm fucking Michiru right now.
>>379083302
It's from KimiIta
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>>379091548
Jesus anon how long is this gonna take you? You've been at it for a few months now.

Still getting crashes?
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>>379091261

What is happening here? I don't recall this scene.
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>>379072647

They probably won't announce anything until the Anime Expo.
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KimiMuv is where it's at, lads.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j13KqYXZLWY

Shit starting to heat up now.
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>>379091824
It's just fanart of Chizuru's and Ayamine's duel date with S-11s.
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>>379092013

I thought that is what it was.
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>>379091824
Might be from PS3 version
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>>379092180
It's not
https://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=56726641
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>>379092325
Well, thats very well done. Fooled me
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Which Muv Luv do I have to play to get KKRRUUUUNNCCHH? Is playing the first part necessary to get to the mecha-NTR memes?
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>>379091745
I'm not playing KimiIta all the time, I'm playing it along with other VNs in my backlog. Which is why I rarely picking up serious VN unless the premise is really interesting, that I can finish it in one long playthrough, or I'll forget the important plot points that the VN tells me before and ruin the experience for me.

Yes, still running to crashes, but at this point, I'm already get used to it. The fact that I'm not playing it all the time helps. If the crashes are getting on my nerves, I'll play something else like Hoshi Ori Yume Mirai, before going back whenever I feel like it.
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>>379093115
That is in Alternative. You really should play Extra and Unlimited first though.
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>>379093115
>>379093654
Alternative is pointless if you don't read Extra and Unlimited first.
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>>379093115
Download Muv Luv Extra (romcom shit you should read to start getting attached to the characters but can skim through). It also contains Muv Luv Unlimited where the mecha shit slowly start. It's about 15+15 hours.

Then download Muv Luv Alternative, which is about 60 hours long and where the war shit is getting real.
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>>379093934
Why is she so awful?
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>>379093934
>Big glasses, double pigtails isn't as common anymore
VNs have changed.
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>>379094493
The only thing awful here is your taste.
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>>379094641
Classic nerdy looking heroine is outdated.
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>>379094641
When did they start to die out? Around the mid to late 00's?
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>>379068962
>Childhood friend turns into a girl
>S(he) wins in the end
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>>379082347
I want to fuck Latrova.
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>>379096009
OK
http://i.imgur.com/tsJ1mzZ.png
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>>379086996
/m/ doesn't discuss TSF's nor does it get deleted by janitors.

Most of the /m/ vn readers went to /a/ early 2016, or left 4chan in general.
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>>379068962
I hated this bitch so much.
Literally the reason why I haven't played Alternative yet and probably never will
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>>379096209
You're missing out
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>>379096209
I don't particularly like her either, but I hope you play Alternative when it gets Steam release. Like the other anon said, you are missing out.
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>>379096305
>>379096959
Yeah I heard it's top tier when it comes to visual novels.
I guess I can give it a try. Already have it on an external I just never bothered once I finished Extra cause fuck Sumika
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>>379097141/
wait have you done Unlimited?
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>>379097141
Start up Unlimited and you'll be pleasantly surprised then.
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>>379096142
You got any of the manga Latrovas?
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>>379069086
Thank god the ending is happy
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I want to molest Meiya
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>>379097220
>>379097439
yeah i meant unlimited, its been a while
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>>379098443
Enjoy the ride anon.
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>>379097710
Zipher... had a hard life.
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Meiya a shit.
Chizuru best girl.
Extra best Muv Luv.
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>>379098784
How many times do you think you have posted this by now?
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Can somebody give me a quick rundown on the beta?
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>>379099218
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>>379099342
Buy why tho
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>>379099683
Because
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>>379099342
Missing Carrier class and Fort Laser, but given how old this picture is it can be forgiven.

No idea how "canon" those Strike Frontier baters are. Some of them look absolutely ridiculous.
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>>379100163
>Missing Carrier class and Fort Laser
It's also missing Superior, reactor, and barrier types. Really it's just a chart of the common types.
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>>379099218
>a lot of them
>shoot down plane
>a LOT of them
>dumb
>unpredictable though
>things will usually backfire
>prepare for higher death rate than expected every fucking time
>"we've tried this before but it failed" sums up pretty much every human attack plan that doesn't involve magical supernukes
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>>379100946
>magical supernukes
and that plan can be summed up as "this fucked us over too."
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>>379096142
>stop playing shitty game because there's like 4 events in a row with only shitty germans
>finally a latrova and I missed it
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>>379101072
It was okay on a small scale though. They took back Sadogashima like that. G-bombs are the shit.
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>>379101151
>likes Latrova
>doesn't like the german girls
your taste is weird
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>>379070182
don´t set a foot in /a/, /jp/ or /v/ until you have finished you retard
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>>379078557
I'm reading fault milestone
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Best girl or best girl?
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>>379102773
Break me
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>>379102773
>best character is also the one who talks the most
>like for a third of the VN
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If I read this game can I achieve sexual intimacy with this childhood friend (male (female))?
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>>379103139
Not in Extra.
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>>379103190
What about unlimited?
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>>379101994
sm was a big fat mistake
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>>379103298
yes
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>>379103345
your letting the anime guide your thoughts when te as a whole was a much bigger clusterfuck

but you probably weren't around for that
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>>379103407
>the artist for your VN gets caught tracing
>again
lol
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>childhood friend is literally the worst girl
Guess the game
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>>379070863
Why couldn't she just kill all the aliens and reality warp her fleshy body back? And who is Kasumi? I couldn't make it past a couple routes in Alternative. Even though I have such shit taste I read everything in Extra.
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>>379104330
there's no routes in alternative.
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>>379068962
Interesting image about that topic OP. As i understand the entire trilogy was about how destiny DEMANDED she win by transferring and fucking over MC until he realized she was best.
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>>379104330
>doesn't know who Kasumi is
Nigga did you even read the trilogy.
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>>379104446
I mixed it up with Unlimited. I never made it past the first pair of games when I found out it was going to be a series about despair and suffering.
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>>379104330
She's not omnipotent or something. That's the worst plot twist of the whole VN but it just happened that the americans G-bombed the hive her brain was into and her intense thoughts about MC created the quantum anomaly that made him get here. G-bombs are based on alien magic and quantic shit so it's not that far-fetched, but it's a big disappointment to go from a cosmic force bullying the MC to that.
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>>379104330
Sumika isn't actually aware she is doing anything at all. She's literally just a brain with attached spinal cord that's stuck being assaulted by never ending unrelenting pleasure, she's not capable of any kind of coherent thought anymore
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>>379104817
>series about despair and suffering
Where did you get that idea? It's about love and courage.
>>379105183
>she's not capable of any kind of coherent thought anymore
Besides "I want to see Takeru again" but I guess that's more of a general feeling then a single thought.
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Is this Meiya girl from muvluv similar with Laura from Trails of Cold Steel?
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>>379105510
No because Meiya is actually good.
Also something something lacrosse.
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>>379103407
the te anime was crap but at least the source material was sort of good. sm was shit from start to finish.
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>>379102773
>that part where she talks about takeru's extra and unlimited H scene memories and explains them to him
>he wonders if he had one with her then her scene pops up
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>>379105312
>not about suffering
>starts with Takeru's suffering from humanity's previous defeat which keeps showing on his face and his acts
>gets his hopes up for a while
>gets crushed by life
>gets crushed by CHOMP
>PTSD.avi
>gets crushed by depression, chemicals, breaks, runs away
>gets crushed by real life and Meiya being a reminder of his failure
>gets crushed by friends and his sorry self being broken
>gets crushed by the sight of Marimo
>gets crushed when she was seen eating with another man
>gets crushed when he learns about his role as a causality conductor
>gets crushed when it gets worse and people rightfully blame him for it
>gets crushed when memories disappear
>gets crushed when it gets worse (AGAIN)
>gets crushed when friends die (AGAIN)
>gets crushed when colleagues and teachers die
>gets crushed by rape flashback
>gets crushed when girl dies

Pretty sure the series is about pure condensed suffering except the guy keeps going somehow so maybe it'll fix itself. That's literally how he gets over the PTSD.
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>>379105694
>TE
>source material
this is how i know you've only starting discussing muv luv post 2014
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>>379106527
A
TALE
OF
LOVE
AND
COURAGE
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>>379106617
I played the main games when they were first translated. te had good heroines and cool mecha designs. sm had shit heroines and ugly mecha designs.
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>>379106617
>sm had shit heroines
Except for Gretel
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>>379107863
>I played the main games when they were first translated.
no you didn't. nobody who had been around since 2011 would claim anything positive about te's source material because that didn't exist and barely existed after the vns came out
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>>379105510
Yeah they're pretty similar.
Meiya is way more fleshed out though.
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>It's been 6 years since I first went on age's wild ride

I kind of wish I could forget so I could read it again completely blind.
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>>379108291
>Except for Gretel
You posted one of the shittiest. Not even good enough to pass as a poor man's Shituru.
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>>379108671
I just need someone to rewrite the final arc.
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http://www.strawpoll.me/13114649

pls respond
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>>379108671
>sitting through that fucking scene with Sumika
nah I'd rather not do that again
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>>379109360
You forgot one.
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>>379110402
Yea I know how you feel, every scene with Sumika is so terrible.
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>>379110704
I only included girls with routes/H-scenes in the Trilogy.
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