Is Leo 100% transgender now? They just full on exclusively

>>379054867
Trasgender isn't the same as cross-dresser

>>379054970
No shit, I didn't say transvestite.

That's what the assumption was in previous games, despite never being addressed. But now the NARRATOR refers to Leo only as "he" and like I said, not a single femine outfit piece.

One step forwards then a giant leap backwards with Josie's embarrassment of a female character.

>make a cute boy
>call it a girl
this is awful

>>379056164
Well they call it a boy NOW.

>>379056164

>Not even /v/ is gay enough to enjoy this

>>379054867
That's a reverse trap my boy.

>>379056874
Is that a challenge?.

>>379054867
The only reason people think it is a girl is because they call it "her" in the CG movie.
Now they call it a him.
It's still a toss up in the air about what it is. That's the whole gimmick of the character. It would ruin the joke to confirm anything so nothing is confirmed.

>>379054867
>transgender
She is andrygynous.

>>379057082
They already confirmed she's a girl dumbass.

>>379057082
Leo had a bikini in TTT2.

>>379057308
Confirmed in what?

>>379056164
>choose leo as my main for a nice cute boy (no homo)
>turns out to be a girl
>now waifuable
i love reverse traps

>>379057410
Harada said leo was a girl they just want a character thats popular regardless of gender so they rry to keep it vague

>>379054867
>now

>>379057601
>>379057308
TT2 isn't canon. Same with a dev interview, it's not in the canon lore then it's not canon.

>>379057846
Not him, but you are brain dead retarded if you are trying to go against the word of god. Is like people going ape crazy that JK.Rowling telling everyone that Herm is black now. If the author wants it, whatever.

Anyway:
1.Full name is Eleanor.
2.Boobs
3.Referred as a girl several times
4.Looks like a girl.

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>>379057846
>Not canon
>gender swap

>>379058184
More people's voice goes into a decision then just Harada. As great as it might seem to think he has his fingers into every single part of the game, it's not the case.

I don't remember Leo having boobs in T6 or 7. I'm going to assume we see the boobs in TT2, what again is not canon in any way.

>>379058184
>JK.Rowling telling everyone that Herm is black now
wait wut

>>379058184
>>379058616
Forgot to say about the name. Again it is said in TT2. Unless you think Unknown is canon, I don't see how you think anything else from that game is.

>>379054867
>Is Leo 100% transgender now?
Cross dressing has nothing to do with transgender you stupid fuck. Stop trying to post misleading / clickbait tier shit.

>>379054867
>doesn't know they keep flipping between gender pronouns

>>379058184
>Eleanor.
it's Elan in 7
>Boobs
you call those breast?
>Referred as a girl several times
and a boy by two accounts more.
>Looks like a girl
you just like girls looking like 12 year old boys buddy.

>>379058736
fuzzy memory but Rowling tweeted once that she never specified Hermione's skin color after people were surprised she's black all of a sudden in some book but I recall seeing a screenshot, not sure if it was in response to the tweet or posted here, of a segment in the Azkaban book specifically saying "her pale skin"

>>379058184
>s like people going ape crazy that JK.Rowling telling everyone that Herm is black now.
??????????

>>379059576
They cast a black actor to play Hermione in an incredibly shitty stage play. Nobody bought that Hermione would be best cast by a black actress and Rowling went damage control mode.

>>379054867
He has only ever been "female" in TTT2. In every other game, he's treated as a male.

Biologically though, he was born a female.

>>379058184
>Is like people going ape crazy that JK.Rowling telling everyone that Herm is black now
this is why "what is canon what isnt" doesnt fucking matters at the end.

who gives a shit really.

anyways, emma watson is not a lose by any means.

>>379058979
See
>>379055251

And learn to read threads before knee-jerk indignation and bitching. Improve the quality of the board, you know?

>>379059576

Pale isn't a skin color anon. Dunno about this Hermione stuff, but dark skinned people can get pale too if they're sick. It doesn't mean they shift to white or anything though.

>>379054867
>this is a german (male)

>>379060738
>This is what I assumed

No, you're a fucking retard and just don't know how the term you're using works.

>>379060754
She's drawn as white on book covers, is described in one book as tanning over the summer, and her face turns red at various points. She's pretty clearly meant to be white.

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>>379060754
Either that's a common misconception or I'm forgetting something that made people want to point the contradiction out, but I think it was a moment where Hermione was scared

Decided to look it up and found this

>>379058979
>>379054970
Jeez, watch Rue Paul's Drag-Race, cross-dressers don't refer to themselves as female in normal life and openly mock any amongst them that they suspect secretly wants to be trans to get the fuck out of the profession and BE a woman, just somewhere else.

Leo does it for no desernable reason other then to be taken as a man.

The Tekken 7 bios refer to her as a girl.
http://tekken.wikia.com/wiki/Leo_Kliesen

>Leo entered the King of Iron Fist Tournament in the hope of uncovering more about her deceased mother, who had been a researcher for the Mishima Zaibatsu. When Leo learned that her battle arena was to be a Zaibatsu-owned dojo, she couldn't believe her luck.

>>379059206
>you call those breast?
She's wearing a binder you retard.

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It's a translation error you dumbfucks.

In Japanese they use gender neutral words and it translated to he in english.

Plus she has boobs in T7. Tiny, but they are there. Just put on a tight shirt on her.

ITT: assuming xir gender

>>379061264
>>379061297
But WHY?

Germany doesn't have the same gender inequality and dicey sexual politics of Japan.

>>379054867
She does have a few female outfits like the salmon coat

>>379061575
I'm not really sure what you're talking about, but I don't think any individual needs some kind of large-scale purpose to doing the things they do.

The main thing about her androgyny is her bindings, which she might do to keep her tits out of the way while she fights.

Everything else about her appearance could simply just be how she wants to look/dress.

>>379057846
Yea but Harada is fuckface

>>379058616
>I don't remember Leo having boobs in T6
You don't need visible breasts to be a woman.

Leo was already confirmed a woman before TTT2 was even announced. The androgyny is just an aesthetic.
She wears a binder. What do you think all those belts are for?

>>379054867
>Know nothing about Tekken
>Friend keeps referring to Leo as a guy
>I tell him that is 100% a chick just from 3 seconds of gameplay footage
>Doesn't believe me and Google's it himself, finds he's wrong

How are normalfags this bad at detecting physical sex?

>>379061124
I gotta man up and say I was wrong. I just googled the definition and apparently.
>Transgender =/= Tranny
So what google is telling me is that a "trap" or whatever could basically be transgender. Stupid as hell, but I gotta admit I was wrong.

>Jeez, watch Rue Paul's Drag-Race
>watch Rue Paul

Now you're just being disrespectful.

Why does Leo have to be transgendered to look androgynous?

Get the fuck outta here with your shit.

Leo also has clothes that are female only.

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>they turned yoshi into a tranny fucker

I'm a tranny so that makes me an expert on trannies.

>Leo is female
>Leo looks like a dude
>Leo is referred to as a he sometimes, as a she sometimes

It does not matter what other people refer to Leo as. Leo is not transgender unless Leo refers to herself as a guy and not as her birth sex.

Wearing clothes of the opposite sex does not make you trans
People referring to you as the opposite sex does not make you trans
Your self-perceived gender identity being the opposite of your birth sex is what makes you trans

tl;dr Leo is a girl

>>379062120
Cause Leo purposefully binds his breasts and is referred to as HE by the omniscient narrator.

No reverse traps here, that's a guy now.

>>379062439
leo uses "boku wa"

>>379062619
You might be surprised, but women in Japan can and do use male pronouns.

It's not an indicator of her being trans. If anything, it just means she intends to affect a slight masculinity, like a tomboy.

>>379062619
Females can use boku wa. It's a phrase signifying gender expression, not gender identity

>>379062619
>german
>using jap
Now that's the stretch

>>379062439
>does not matter what other people refer to Leo
Omniscient God narrator, not "people"

> as a she sometimes
and not "Sometimes", never in game and only on a fan wiki

>unless Leo refers to herself as a guy
see
>>379062619

You're very bad at recognizing your fellow trans people.
It's only less clear because Japs don't have a concept of trans and gay culture outside of as a joke.

>>379060949
>>379061015

I was just pointing out that pale doesn't necessarily mean white. I think it's stupid as fuck too that Rowling tried to pull the "well I never said..." card when she's clearly been depicted as white in every piece of media prior to the play. Especially since other characters in the book were described as having dark skin, so it makes no sense she would only keep Hermoine ambiguous the whole time.

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>>379062439
Leo never called themselves a Girl, you ass.

>>379061264
>http://tekken.wikia.com/wiki/Leo_Kliesen
>using the tekken wiki
Try the official site.
http://tk7.tekken.com/fighters/leo
>Leo entered the King of Iron Fist Tournament in the hope of uncovering more about his deceased mother

They called Leo female in TT2. Male in T7, next game it will be female again because the whole joke is no one knows what it is.

>>379062943
>You're very bad at recognizing your fellow trans people.
>It's only less clear because Japs don't have a concept of trans and gay culture outside of as a joke.

That's all the more reason to believe she isn't trans, if the creators actually don't know what trans is. It seems pretty clear to me she is designed to be more an androgynous crossdresser with male mannerisms, or just a straight gender neutral character. That could mean the character is trans, but no one should ever be assumed to be trans unless it's explicitly stated.

>>379063101
Did Leo call herself a boy? Aside from pronouns, I mean has Leo ever expressly said "I am a boy/man"

>>379062916
She doesn't start speaking German until TTT2 so that's probably in reference to T6

>>379062943
Leo has access to male and female customizations
Leo can't be hit by Anna's female-only attack, but can be hit by Heihachi's male-only attack
In TTT2 she has a swimsuit that reveals her breasts, and the male variant has her wearing a shirt to hide the bindings.

She isn't trans, she's androgynous.
The whole point is that it changes from one to the other.

Japan loves androgynous characters, but suddenly Leo HAS to be trans? Fuck off m8

>>379061943
>You don't need visible breasts to be a woman.
The breast were there but not visible? How do you know they are there then? You felt them?
>What do you think all those belts are for?
I stopped questioning Japan's use of belts in character design after Kingdom Hearts.

>>379061264
>She's wearing a binder you retard.
got a source on that you fetish fapping freak?

>>379054867

I don't know who this is but he looks like someone with a penis and balls. Not someone with penis, balls and uterus. Or someone with a penis and vagina. or someone with penis, balls and vagina, or someone with a uterus and balls but no penis or someone with a vagina and balls stuck inside the shaft.

But just some Japanese blonde guy with a penis and balls and no other extra organs.

>>379062172
What?

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>>379063350
>>379063439
>The breast were there but not visible? How do you know they are there then?
Because you can see that she's wearing a binder.

If you've ever seen bound breasts, it's incredibly obvious.

>>379063648
All the men have big chests like that. In T7 you can equip him with a T-shirt and he has a man's chest in that too.

>>379063648

Looks like your normal Japanese pretty boy to me.

>>379063736
If you think that looks like a man's chest, maybe you head on over to /fit/

They even accounted for the slope with that top belt.

They're tits.

>tfw Leo will never be your bro
>she will never confess to you one night in a drunken stupor as you laugh it off as >no homo
>she will never forcefully kiss you as you act surprised thinking your best friend is gay
>she will never guide your hand to her crotch to feel her jeans wet and lacking a bulge
>she will never start to confess that she wanted to get close to you by acting like a boy and that she gets really jealous when you talk about other more feminine girls as tears start rolling down her eyes
>she will never ask you for just one night where you would see her as a girl that loves you instead of your best friend who plays vidya with you
>you will never understand and accept her feelings and return her kiss, her cheeks wet after saying her toughest words yet

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>Purposely hide chest
>Use male Language
>female only attacks don't hit
>Male only DO hit
>referred to as male despite formerly being female

All that evidence JUST isn't enough to tip Waifufags from "She's just Andro" to "That motherfucker is serious about being female-to male" I guess

Fucking Waifu-goggles.

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>>379063648
What is the strap on the leg? and is that a second belt under the normal waist belt or is the normal belt just extra long and dangling? Either way I don't think every strap was put on Leo with a very specific purpose.

Her VA sounds like a teenage boy during voice change.

>>379063901
again, it's the same model that all the men's chests have. And, no, I don't believe any of the men's chests look natural. But it's a fantasy video game so who cares

>>379064034
>>female only attacks don't hit
Who has one in T7? Because in past games they did.

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>>379063903

>>379064105
You mean a female taking testosterone in preparation for transition?

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I want /lgbt/ to leave this thread is making me suicidal

>>379064035

Hey in this angle she actually looks like a girl in disguise.

The eyes, pink blush, soft features and pinkish red lips give it away.

>>379064524
It's too late. /lgbt/ isn't in /v/ anymore. /v/ is gayer than /lgbt/ could ever dream of being.

>>379064594
Wtf I hate /v/ and want to leave, please help me

>>379064034
Female only attacks still hit her you scrub. Get good before you talk out of your ass.

>>379064730
Right, you see the bar at the top of your browser screen? The one that says "boards.4chan.org/v/thread/379054867"?

Click on that, type in any website name you desire. Then, remembering to never put 4chan.org in that bar again, press enter. And you shall be freed.

>>379064901
>implying he's not too good that he phases over female only attacks

>>379063648

Oh thats a cute little fucker

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>>379063903
>tfw

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>>379064730
You cant fag, you're here forever.