Now that the first bornlike game turned out to be a major success,

>>379046816
>major success
Most gamers don't even know it exists.

So what the fuck was Sally? Why was she getting so many people to try and reach the board room? Why was she killing the other people she sent before you?

>>379046816
Nioh is better than this trash

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>>379047074

>>379047117
this
Surge surpassed Souls at what it does. Nioh isn't in the same universe with it's chinese ripoff garbage.

>>379046816
Bornlike ? Better say soulslike m8

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LOL

This shit was garbage.
>Shitty character designs
>Shit bosses
>Barely any bosses
>Shit enemies
>Boring levels

The game had gameplay, but where the fuck were my visuals. I can't get off to a game if it's as boring as my nan.

>>379047062

As I understand it's because those people either failed or stopped listening to her to focus on survival. She then fried them.

I think Sally was the result of people using the neural implants while secretly being reducated. When she accessed the board room she could kill the last living board member who had not submitted his vote on utopia, thus his death would lead to a 4:3 approval vote.

Basically everyone had a fucked up science project and they all smashed together in a giant train wreck.

>>379046816
>literally LotF 2

I hope this shit company will finally die together with Fromsoft and """""soulslike""""" games.

>>379047539

I KNOW I KNOW YOU'VE HEARD ME SAY IT AGAIN AND AGAIN

CREO CARES

>>379047430
Is the awkwardness in the animation intentional?

>>379046816
The game is a huge pile of shit.
I pirated it and still felt ripped off.
>relies 100% on lock-on
>anything that's not a fast weapon is utterly useless
>bland as fuck environment design

All it did was made me reinstall DS1.

>>379046816
Maybe, and then only MOST of them will be trash.

>>379047074
>My weaboo games that support waifu objects is better than your Gaymerican made trash game!!

post some webms to get me interested in picking this game up again

i played to a little past the first boss before stopping and thinking what am i doing this isnt even that fun, its slow and boring

>>379046816

The level design in this game was amazing, there are so many shortcuts and everything ends up interconnected, i think i came a little when i got on the tram from the nucleus to the second area in the game, even though it was pointless.

Also everyone seems to find the setting boring but i loved the factory, it kinda kept reminding me of Alien for some reason.

It was pretty good, 8/10 would play again. I want a sequel.

>>379047738
It's not gonna get any better. Just pick up a game that isn't shit, anon.

>>379047613
for the most part. you try doing sickass combos like that after being a paraplegic for most of your life

>first
So Lords of the Fallen doesnt count?
>major success
Ok lol

Of all the things to not copy, why do they keep forcing a named, voiced protagonist. I dont care about paraplegic man, and it doesnt seem like the game does much either so let me make my own characters.

Also combat feels weird. The attack animations are clunky.
Dodging feels weird and the duck is pointless.

That being said, light sets are infinitely better in early game than heavy. Armor apparently doesnt mean anything, at least from what Ive seen.

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>>379047456
>Surge surpassed Souls at what it does. Nioh isn't in the same universe
You can't just make a statement like that and not back it up.
Why is Surge so much better than Souls and Nioh?

>>379047893
>implying the jank is intentional
Fuck off

>>379047792

I like how all overcharge spots are connected to a red pipe leading to the door they open. In the launch pad I followed a pipe through most of the level to find an implant and a shortcut. It was fun.

>>379047950

Armor is for fashion

>>379047950
I was gonna bring up LotF too but it's a Soulslike not a Bornelike

>>379047117
>>379047675
Come back when you can afford a cheap as fuck gaming console you retarded poorfags

>>379047792
>>379048035
I'll give it that. I think the combat sucks but whoever was in charge of the level layout did a good job.
Shame his work's stuck in a jank ass game.

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>>379047675
>>379047117

>>379047613

Poorly implemented pauses for timing moves and branching. The slower weapons are the worse for this, the faster ones aren't as bad.

>>379048160
>Metacritic matters when I say it does

>>379046816
How is this shit game even a "soulslike"? Is it because it has a recovery system and stamina? Diablo had those long before Dark Souls/DeS and calling games "soulslike" because of those two things is fucking stupid.

>>379048160
I haven't played either and I want to try both and I don't really care which is better but
>He thinks game scores mean jack shit
When will this meme end, if it's not a detailed review that talks about the game itself and backs up it's score it's worthless noise

Fuck The Surge, fuck Deck13 and fuck anyone who likes it.

>>379048052

Eh, pretty much.

They contribute to stamina consumption, add impact, and change drone attack costs but the one thing they absolutely don't do... Is give you any notice damage reduction.

>>379048309
Read the OP again moron
The word soul isn't even in it

>>379048106
Really now

>>379048393
Bornlike is the same thing, nigger.
Bloodborne is a soulsgame with a reskin.

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>>379047738

>>379048440
Worthless post/10
If you have nothing to say don't say it

Daily reminder: Jump and duck attacks knock over every human opponent and some robots. You don't even have to dodge a move to do it.

>>379048495
It was a Postlike, it's not a post. Totally different.
Also it bumped your shitty thread, retard. Learn how the site works. You're welcome.

>>379048446
>Hurr these games are made by the same people and have some mechanical similarities
>This means they are the same despite both games having different core design ideologies
I can't tell if it's summer or I've wandered into a chat room for children

>>379048440
Soulsbornefags are pretty much braindead at this point.

>>379048595
Not my thread and I'm sure we could all agree it getting archived would be better than having to interact with you
Learn to not be totally meaningless faggot

>>379048634
>Fromdrones really believe this

You must have serious brain damage if you believe Bloodborne isn't a soulsgame with just a different setting and a UI reskin.

>watch protag get shit drilled directly into his skeleton through his clothing
>ah so it's going to be some arkham city plot
>i'll have to find a cure for the sick nasty infections those wounds will give me
>lol no never mentioned again
hum hum

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Deepest Lore

>>379048813
I honestly can't tell of you're trolling or not
Did you play them?

>>379046816
>major success
https://steamspy.com/app/378540
>can't even break 50k on pc

kek, germans btfo

>>379048874
What am I even looking at?

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>>379046816

Hard to say, despite it's short comings the game has alot of effort behind it as do the souls games.

If people want to tap the genre they are going to put more effort than usual into it otherwise it'll be labeled a cheap clone.

>>379048820
Why would the wounds get infected? The only part of the process that failed was the anaesthetic, unless you think that a company able to make fucking exosuits wouldn't be able to properly treat wounds they knew they would be causing

So what is the definition of "Soulslike" or "Bornlike" as a genre? A game with artificial difficulty and a backstory that only exists in the heads of the fanboys for the most part?

>>379047430
Might as well drop stamina entirely when you can swing such a huge weapon a gazillion times before running out.

>>379048927
What makes Bloodborne different from Dark Souls aside from the setting and UI and game being blood themed then? The core mechanics are the same, too.
Inventing the term "bornelike" when you can just keep using "soulslike" is just stupid.

>>379048813
>Nuts and Bolts is just the old Banjo games with a reskinned UI
>Mega man is just Mario with a different setting
>Jack&Daxter is just Ratchet and Clank with blah blah blah

>>379049084

Corpse runs, unforgiving combat, and a credit based leveling system for the most part.

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>>379049245
>BUT THEY REMOVE SHIELDS

>>379049201

He's wearing the joke armor.

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>>379046816
This "realistic" approach to power armor is a cancer that is plaguing western fiction.

>>379049207
The main thing is the speed of the name and the movement mechanics, Soulslikes are supposed to be fairly slow, thoughtful with an emphasis on decision making in the combat
Bournelikes are about reaction, reflex, rushing ahead and fixing your mistakes immediately after they happen

>>379047591
She was trying to keep him alive to make sure he could cast a vote. Whether it was because she wanted to stop Utopia or if she just wanted to make sure the vote was fully completed is unknown.

>>379049525
Both of those can happen in all of the souls games or bloodborne.

>>379048971
The robot has "Me Human" written on it

>>379049501
I don't know who actually thinks those bulky, exosuit skeleton things look cool.

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>>379047539
For some reason that part really got to me, especially going in his small room to the side and seeing his pictures of his family.

>>379049525
Dark Souls 3 is faster than DS1 and 2 and has implemented visceral attacks from Bloodborne.
Does The Surge have a rally system or/and quickdash?

>>379049501
Most of it isn't power armor, the majority of equipment you get is for industial work.

Now, the security armor not protecting you any better than said industrial work gear is an issue.

>>379049531
What happened after the vote thing? You completely lose contact with Sally after the executive dies and the utopia vote goes through.

Big Sister 1/3 was the highlight of the game for me. For the severe lack of them, I think this game's bosses were all stellar in their own way with the exception of Black Cerberus.

>>379048874
What armor set is that?

>>379049917
She no longer gives a fuck because the board's dead and the vote's finished.
I don't even understand the point of going to the nucleus if you don't want to stop the nanomachines, shouldn't it launch regardless?

>>379049917
Dead Space did the same shit with way better results.

>>379049628
And you can play golf in Halo and play MGR slowly
What's your point? We're talking about design philosophy not what players can do with it

>>379049951
Big Sister was the worst boss for me, the start is too simple and the end is a boring slog, especially if you're trying to get the v2.0 of the weapon.
I didn't mind BC once I found out you can stop him calling in PAX though

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>>379049032
You'll get infections from the open wounds, not made better from having bolts drilled into your bones.
Doing it through the clothing brings even more foreign objects into your body.

And how will you ever get your clothes off when they're underneath the exosuit?

>that music in the medbay
>MC was on wheelchair

>>379049525
>Soulslikes are supposed to be fairly slow, thoughtful with an emphasis on decision making in the combat
My approach to souls games is to get armor light enough for a fast roll, a low stamina dex weapon and then fucking rush the enemy.

>>379050271
The song is actually about the Nanomachines escaping

>>379050176
Because a handful of changes to animation speeds isn't a entirely different genre of game.

>>379049817
Oh no, a game they made after they made a game that the designer preferred to his previous games includes some design elements from the earlier game?
This is madness

Don't know, haven't played The Surge yet, came to this thread for some info on it. What I'm arguing is that Soulslike and Bournelike are two different things

>>379050267
You also can't make exosuits
The game is set in the fantasy future you dipshit
This is the weirdest fucking thing to get hung up on

>>379050316
Mine too, I said 'supposed to be'

I can't believe I have to say this again but there is a major difference between design philosophy and gamer ability

>>379050391
>Oh no, a game they made after they made a game that the designer preferred to his previous games includes some design elements from the earlier game?
>This is madness

Are you special? I brought it up to explain that "being fast" isn't exclusive to Bloodborne.

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>>379050050

>>379050390
Ignoring your hyperbole in regards to the amount of differences
>Game speed is not important in distinguishing games

I'd rather speak of surgelike games

The game could've used more story in the endgame. It didn't need to be spelled out or cutscened or anything, but a little more information about how the surge was actually caused i.e. did the nanobots cause it when they escaped or did SALL cause it and it allowed them to escape?

>>379050570
Yeah and I countered that DS3 is fast because it takes after Bloodbourne, it became more Bournelike but the games still play differently don't they you fucking mong

Why did you scream at your wheelchair at the end of the game?

I thought the story suddenly became really good and interesting with the whole kill humanity slowly, kill humanity quick, or do unethical as fuck experiments and possibly lose all individuality to turn humanity into robot men. But then they dropped the ball hard when it was all dropped for a generic the machines are evolving and are going to kill all the humans! plot point that has been done to death in sci-fi by now.

>>379046816
>bornlike
>soulslike

is the combat fun and challenging or is it like LotF where you can do one thing that retardedly ruins 90% of the enemies

>>379050845
>Kill all the humans
The nanomachines were basically absorbing the humans and turning them into a hive mind entity.

>>379049917
>the majority of equipment you get is for industial work.

That's one thing that bugs me, nearly all of the weaponry that you get is supposed to be repurposed industrial tools, and you just use them to whack people around instead of using any unique features of the tools, like chainsawing through a guy with the vibro-cutter or using the rivet gun fuction of the Titan to pilebunker a guy.

Why does security not have any regular handheld guns? It's just those hazard guys with the flamethrowers and gas grenades and the other dudes with the little shoulder-mounted stun guns and missile launchers.

>>379050935
Sprint/slide attacks are pretty strong against the majority of enemies.

>>379050745
>but the games still play differently don't they you fucking mong

Nah, but keep telling yourself that, drone.

>>379051023
that sounds a lot like the running shield tackle from LotF that I was talking about, is it something that happens while you're running? glad they learned from their mistakes.

>>379051113
Yeah, attacking from a sprint gives you a stronger, long range slide attack that you can combo out of pretty well. It's pretty abusable if you have the space to use it.

>>379051082
I will, you keep having no grasp on what the term Design Philosophy means

What a nice man

>>379051205
I guess that's better than equipping a tower shield and staggering/knocking down every single enemy outside of ghosts and bosses for free hits. speaking of, how are the boss fights?

>>379051205
The forward step attack works incredibly well as an opener with 3 of the 5 weapon types.

>>379047569
it's good, soulborn just set the bar too high that even From themself can't surpass it

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I'll buy it once it hits €10 next year.

>>379051279
There's only 5.
The first two are decent, the third is a bit of a gimmick, the fourth is basically an NPC that calls in the first boss.
The fifth is a standard "large monster" boss from any of the souls/borne games that turns into an NPC in the second phase.

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>>379051826
oh. maybe I'll pass then, thanks anon.

>>379051826
I haven't played the game yet and that's disappointing
Are there at least really strong optional enemies?

>Latest patch nerfed implanetd electrodes into a limited-use item

I'm kind of mad but it's understandable. Implanted electrodes essentially gave you infinite free heals and could keep your energy up to get executions and use your drone abilities all the time.

>>379051961
All normal enemies are pretty stronk and come in packs.

>>379051961
Not really. There's a few large robot enemies scattered around but they don't really move and fighting them is more of an exercise in patience than anything else. In NG+ I suppose a few enemies get added that have access to the full moveset of their weapons (so basically they fight like you, lots of dodging and such) that are a lot trickier than normal enemies if they catch you off guard.

>>379052037
I wondered if they were meant to be infinite. Is it three uses like all the other injectibles?

>>379052140
Yeah, the first time the game throws that at you (The bloodied proteus guy in R&D) I kind of freaked out thinking everyone was going to start using slide attacks and crazy dodging.

>>379052213
5 now I think.

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Started NG+

Was this always here? I don't remember a giant trail of blood at the start

>>379052086
I meant more like what are basically optional bosses without names or unique arenas, but I guess not

>>379052140
I fucking hate when games only put shit like that into NG+
Most people will never see it and yyouve already beaten the biggest things the game has so they lose impact
What happened to putting your best foot forward

>>379052409
Nope. Enjoy the junkyard area.

>>379052409
everything is clean as o nthe first run

>>379052490
Maybe they thought it'd be too hard for people.

>>379050575
Is there seriously no exosuit that completely covers your character? I hate this design

>>379052754
Scarab probably does the most. It has gloves.

>>379052738
Then don't make a bournlike, your main audience is playing for a challenge
Or make them optional by putting them in a room you don't have to go through, that way you can reward the people who can beat the challenge

>>379046816
Fuck off Deck13 you can't even implement the one feature that was new and unique about Souls games, i.e. the summon/invasion multiplayer system.

>>379052947
They are optional, that's why they're in NG+

>>379052673
>>379052719

Is there any other visual differences in the game or is it just this?

I'm kinda far into NG+ and this is the only change I saw outside of the new enemies

>>379052754
The security armor sets (Gorgon/Cerberus, Black Cerberus) and Scarab. IRONMAUS armor as well I think?

>>379053032
Just you wait anon
That's literally it

>>379053000
>multi-player system
>worth anything
Fuck off dickhead, if you didn't play the Souls games offline for your first playthrough you are a scrub

>>379053113
A damn, was hoping maybe they added an extra quest line or something. Like maybe the thing that got that blood there hunting you.

Oh well.

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>>379052409
>Come to work first day
>See this

>>379046816
>major success
I like the game, but you're fucking delusional. So far, the game has sold only 50k copies, which is utterly pathetic. Fucking niche turn based tactics games sell better than this normie bait action game, let that sink in.

>>379053236
Follow the blood trail everybody's ignoring or you don't get to walk again in your life.

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>>379052409
>no ramps for disabled

BUT DEEP INSIDE YOU KNOW
THERE MUST BE MORE

>>379054003
There are ramps to the place where you get to stop being disabled, maybe they figured that was enough

>>379047961
>Why is Surge so much better than Souls and Nioh?
Because it isn't made by Japs and doesn't cater to weebs. Ken-sama

>>379054303
Are there any handicap accessible bathrooms?

>>379049501
Sauce?

>>379054469
You can fucking hold it until we give you working legs can't you, you stuck up little shit

>>379055285
>surgery chair faintly smells of feces at all times, for some reason

>>379055371
Technology hey, it's a mystery

>>379046816
>major success
obligatory
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/zero-punctuation/117101-The-Surge-Review-Zero-Punctuation-Yahtzee

>>379054469
I didn't see a single bathroom in the entire facility, though some logs at least talk about the executive washroom.

>>379055615
Interesting
And honestly disheartening
I'm one of those faggots that started watching ZP when I was quite young and his early works quite heavily affected the way I look at video games
I find myself for the first time honestly hoping that I disagree with him

>>379056237
I find yahtzee pretty shit most of the time but that vidoe is on point.

>>379055615
I struggle to believe he found the third boss so difficult. For me it was the easiest one in the whole game, especially as you can just cheese the final phase.

>>379056237
Hearing different opinions is fine. Don't shut yourself in an echo chamber.
I think Yahtzee's a pretentious cunt from time to time, but when it comes to reviews he's often right.

>>379046816
>the first bornlike game
Fucking newfag.
Also, it's clearly "Soulslike".
Fucking doubleshitter.

>>379056385
>especially as you can just cheese the final phase
First phase of the the fight only has a single attack that has enough recovery to let a heavy weapon user hit it once. Second phase is a clusterfuck of stunlocking that I only managed to get through because I was wearing heavy armor and tanked its shit. Third phase one shots you with every single attack it has until you figure out that the electric floor is not nearly as punishing as it should be and you can stand on it all you like, then the boss literally can't hit you and becomes harmless.

>>379056516
it's literally clone of bloodborne you cumguzzler

>>379056593
Nah it isn't, you little shitter.

>>379056554
If you stand at the back of the platform that the core is on then nothing can hit you and you can occasionally smack the core when it goes into its guard position. Useful for getting the V2.0 spear.

>>379056629
play the game first, shitpost later

>>379056669
Play the game first, never shitpost.

>>379056593
Did bloodborne have blocking? I can't remember.

>>379056409
Oh no, I wasn't saying that his opinion will define anything about how I perceive the game, just that his opinion has been fairly relevant to mine on the majority of things
Hell, it was Yahtzee himself who cemented and solidified the idea that your enjoyment should be yours and not dependant on others opinions in my young teenage mind

>>379056715
Just ignore the shitter.

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>>379056516
We're talking about bornlikes, you sperg.

>>379048351
>I hate the game and so should everyone else
Kys

>>379047074
ninja gaiden black is better than nioh

>series is a massive hit
>no one understands a single thing about it, not even the people trying their hardest to clone it
Has this ever happened before? Even the 3D platformers during the collectathon craze got closer.

>>379058165
Fairly sure he was quoting Yahtzee
And extremism in hate is sort of his gimmick

>>379058530
The irony here is that if somehow The Surge got immensely popular like Dark Souls did he'd do a 180 on it and say he loved it all along.

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>>379046816
>bornlike

>>379047675
>Implying Burgers even make good games anymore
It's German.

>>379058382
Ninja Gaiden Black is better than a lot of things.

>>379056715
No, outside of a little shield that did fuck all.

>>379058920
I really hope that wasn't why he started to praise DS, a lot of people were turned off at the start only to change their minds later

>>379059146
I think he started to like Dark Souls because he had time to actually invest in it. His Demons Souls review sounded like he didn't have much time on it.

>>379059134
That shield was totally a joke to make fun of 'engendering passivity'

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>ranged options in surge are even shittier than in LotF

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>>379046816
> success

>>379059732
>His Demons Souls review sounded like he gave up after the bridge.
Fixed that.

I wouldn't want a sequel to Lord of the Fallen.
I would want a sequel to The Surge.

>>379046816
>major success
>nobody remembers it exists
>sold less than 50k copies after a month
That game is pure shovelware, like how LOTF was.
Not even it's obvious shilling campaign salvaged it.

>>379060115
Well that's obvious, he said as much in the review.

>>379048634
You can't honestly believe that Bloodborne and Dark Souls are such fundamentally different games that they literally belong to different genres

>>379054619
Yes

>>379060523
what genres would those be?

>>379060723
that's the point, they aren't, they're in the same souls-/bornlike genre

>>379060523
Fuck no, but if you think that Soulslike is a genre you're a retard, they're just really good action adventure games
Soulslike is a sub-genre at best and on that scale it definitely does not fit with Bloodbourne

finished the game, it was alright but holy shit it was unpolished as fuck

The only thing that pains me about the Surge is the lenght of the game.

>>379061137
They are action adventure games which have certain characteristics where you can lump some of them together and get the same "experience". Dynasty warriors has a different feel to it than Dark Souls, even though both are "action games"

Whatever you want to call them, a sub-genre or not, it doesn't matter

Also of course Dark Souls and Bloodborne have a very familiar feel to them. Just because you don't use shields in Bloodborne and it's a bit quicker and action-y doesn't change that they're related

>>379047456
Surges combat from a base mechanical level are far too loose and floaty to hang at the top. Random things will work or not for for no discernible reason too often in regular gameplay.

And somehow the weapon variety was WORSE than Bloodborne; that's a fucking feat.

>>379047792
Won't argue with level design, top tier shortcut porn.

However, the art direction was horrible. Samey hallways and rooms don't stand out at all and it's easy to completely forget sections of maps due to how identical they are to the rest of the map.

A sad byproduct of the scifi setting itself I suppose.

>>379050267
One would, reasonably, assume that in this scifi future with a major focus on nanomchine usage, medical solutions for infection are probably no longer an issue.

It isn't outright said but it is easily assumed.

>>379061392
When you can lump games in the same genre together and define them as different to other games within the same genre that is what a sub-genre is, to be honest 'Soulslike' and 'Bournelike' feel more like sub-sub-genres to me

As I said before it's about design philosophy, the games are made to be different and so they are, they have similarities because they're made by the same people and because Sony wanted am exclusive game that was linked to the Souls series
I'm not saying they aren't related, I'm not saying they aren't really goddamned similar, but the design philosophies are different and The Surge follows the design philosophy of Bloodbourne far more than any Souls game making it a Bournelike not a Soulslike

Is a crack out yet?

>>379063642
It's been out since 1 day after launch I think.

>>379046816
Everything I have seen makes The Surge seem like another shitty souls knock-off.

Like their first game, Lords of the Fallen

>>379046816
I forgot I even own this. I gave away a copy to some guy on /v/ too, he probably forgot he owns it too. Was it actually good? I beat the first boss, explored the next area a bit and just completely lost interest.

>>379063642
We live in the golden age man, the only thing that causes a crack to come out more than a week after launch is Denuvo and even that is losing it's power

>>379064513
I hhate this thinking
They liked the souls games and wanted to do things like it, LotF was awful because they tried to hard to be like it but they're actually trying to do their own thing now
Sure it's similar to souls but that's sort of the point, are you not allowed to make certain types of game because somebody else did it first?

>>379064768
>Sure it's similar to souls but that's sort of the point, are you not allowed to make certain types of game because somebody else did it first?

not if it's done poorly, like The Surge.

Nioh was done well.

>>379064951
I haven't actually played The Surge, so I will reserve my comments on it's quality until tomorrow when my laptop finally arrives
I'm just saying that even if it's shit calling it a clone is unfair

>>379051961

The smelters, yeah.

Beat them all to get special armor.

>>379046816
Fun game.
good combat.
Cannot figure out where to go most of the times.

>>379065210
Okay, that's at least something