9 years ago today, the greatest action game of all time was released

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>>379013239
>the greatest action game of all time
You called?

NG black was better OP

>>379013380

This is a beat em up.

>>379013380
No

>>379013398
No

>>379013461
And no

Nu males, nu males everywhere.

Ninja Gaiden 2 can't be the best in the genre, considering it has those fucking offscreen exploding shuriken throwing asshole.

Also, Devil's Third is better than both versions of NG3. Just a reminder.

>>379013380
meme

>>379013461
>pointless open world
>dumb puzzles
>platforming

No, it wasn't.

>>379013239
NG2

>>379013380
>memehand
shit game

>>379013461
sigma is superior

>>379013572
>devil's turd
>better than razor's edge

I'll give you vanilla NG3 but come on son.

>>379013646
>obnoxious faggot replying to everyone's post is an NGfag
of course

>>379013545
Only nu males use the word nu male, nu male

>>379013646
Devil's Third has good boss fights, which RE still doesn't have. RE at it's core is still the shitty game that NG3 was, just with a padded coating that doesn't actually fix the foundation. Much like DMC4SE.

Also the (dead) multiplayer was incredible.

>>379013775
>butthurt /v/irgin who's bad at vidya is the only one offended
of course

>>379013872
>Devil's Third has good boss fights
>spam shotgun from behind partial cover entire fight

uh huh

>>379013380
This is the correct answer, but /v/ will just respond with meme game because they have shit taste and because they don't know how to respond without using ad hominem and memes

>>379013991
>>379013991
>>379013991
>>379013991
>oh shit he called out my stupid faggotry I better call him butthurt

>>379013239
>tfw still no NG2 Black
>tfw still no proper NG2 successor
I wouldn't say it were the greatest action game of all time, though. It's trumped by NGB in its own franchise, for one.

>>379014124
>being this mad

>>379013991
What cover is there when you're fighting a boss like Grundla Saha (third boss) or the final boss? Or even the Jane Doe fight (Fifth boss)

And even the medicore first boss of the game is better than GIANT ROBOT T-REX IS CUMMIN' AT YA

>>379014138
>>379013637

>>379013239
jedi outcast and jedi academy have the best controls of any action game and will never be topped because everything is designed for controllers now.
>there are people who think any game where you can't look, move, and attack all at once could ever even be considered the greatest

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>>379013646
>>sigma is superior
Hi, having fun? I'm here to ruin it for you.

>>379013239
This thread isn't fun enough.

>Sigma 2 > OG NG2

>>379014335
>le rachel is shit meme from retards who can't git gud

>>379014335
Anyone here play the Vita ports of the Sigma games indepth? I know they have good content, but is there any glaring issues besides 2's framerate?

>tfw the only way 2s legacy will live on, is through xbox one bc

whys it taking so long?

>>379014309
How do the console versions of JKO/JKA work anyway?

Played and finished it on mentor a few years back. Couldn't really do it on master ninja. Great game.

>>379014581
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_aGEJDps4Vw
very slowly

PC ports when?

>>379014874
get a 360, poor nigger

>>379014970
I dont want a red ring tho

>>379013637
>pointless open world
>dumb puzzles
>platforming
NGB wasn't "open world" you moron, it just had a more non-linear setting like the Devil May Cry games.

Also those things served well to break up the action. NG2, for all its improvements in the combat system, always felt like a lesser game for being completely linear and having several point of no-return areas, mid-chapter even.

>>379014874
Hopefully soon now that KT has a decent idea on how to handle PC ports

I feel like they're fucked though in terms of which versions to port, people are going to lose their shit no matter which ones get brought over.

>>379014874

PC ports would probably just end up being the garbage Sigma versions. Best to hold out for 360 emulation at this point.

>>379015051
its a good thing they dont do that anymore :)

>>379015117
>le debil may cuhrazy!!!

shit series, anything that distances itself from it is better

>>379015156
Or just get an OG Xbox, modding them is easy as shit, not to mention cheaper.

>>379014007
> Beat-em-up
> Somehow a CUHRAZY game

JLawOkay.gif

>>379015117
>always felt like a lesser game
Superior game you mean. If you want fucking Zelda go play fucking Zelda

I'd replay the shit out of this if they made it BC on the bone.

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>>379015232
>DMC
>Bad
Have a pity (You)

>>379015237
>Needing an SDTV to make it look not like shit.

Nah, breh.

>>379015248
t.shitter
https://youtu.be/dXnKTgGFb2Y

>>379015343
>>379015343
wow look at the anime magic man le teleport and float in the air and twirl his guns!!! so f**king epic :)

dmc is cringe to watch with shitty controls and movement

>>379015232
>shit series, anything that distances itself from it is better
I love how insecure NGfags always are. Anything with the slightest mention of DMC always makes them go crazy.

>>379015270
>If you want fucking Zelda go play fucking Zelda
Except breaking up the action with a bit of platforming and puzzle-solving is necessary for these types of games. Just look at Razor's Edge. Nothing but wave of enemy after enemy and that shit wore down on you quick.

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>>379014335
>very easy to git gud with her due to powerful counters, UT, and grab attacks
>not even that slow, the combo starting with the kick being one of the quickest attacks.
Nah, you're just shit.

>>379015856
it sucks in razors edge because the core movement and physics system was completely changed from 2 which is the most satisfying video game in existence. couldn't even finish the demo beacuse of how bad it was to play

>>379015856
>necessary for these types of games
You're just an old fuck that can't handle the action.
>Nothing but wave of enemy after enemy and that shit wore down on you quick
>that is not the best part about it
Go play Doom instead.

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Ayane > Rachel > Momiji > shit > Irene

>>379015643
>I wanna be a contrarian

>>379015643
I do hate the movement in DMC. Your choices for getting from a to be are either slow-ass jog, hopping like a retard or spamming trickster dodge, which has too long of a recovery time to be as quick as I want it to be and stinger sends anything that's not huge flying away from you.

>>379013872
this

about the MP

no one got to play probably the most fun MP in a while. it was fun just having fight clubs on maps. shit man, i miss it.

>>379013572
That implies that devil's third moveset is at least as good as NG2 which RE pretty much copies wholesale and the enemies have an AI.
The only thing DT has an edge on is bossfights because NG3's are shit and RE never bothered fixing that.

>>379016894
>dyes hair white, buys plastic katana from halloween store, and twirls wildly in the air with pizza hanging out my mouth

am i cuhrazy enough for ya anon?! am i?! fuck yeah im a trickster! *shreds on air guitar*

>>379017454
DT's moveset is near-nonexistant, but it is satisfying to use, which shows who made it.

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>>379017497
>You will never be this contrarian

Do people really think an action game must be fast and fluid to be good?

>>379017560
look how unfinished the movement looks. very simple animations and floating in the air. looks like beta footage to a game

>>379017637
it was that weird era of 7th gen, where models still kinda looked like plastic dolls and looked fakey fake

>>379017609
fast not really, fluid yes

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>>379013239
To this day I think it's the hardest game I've ever played, but I played it in 2010 or 2011 and I was a scrub with a gamepad back then. Wonder if it would be as hard if I tried it now.

>>379018223
>tfw silky smooth 24 fps dark souls need not apply

>>379017497
>wears tight leather pants with codpiece and sleaveless leather vest, buys cheap naruto headpiece and black face wrap and twirls his fedora katana around
Yup. You are a faggot that still thinks Ninjas are cool

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>>379013239
>Still not backwards compatible
Not mad, just disappointed.

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>>379019260
>mfw ultra collection of Ninja Gaiden Sigma, Sigma 2 and Razor's Edge for PS4 will happen before Ninja Gaiden 4 or Ninja Gaiden 2 BC

>>379013239
How on earth has this not gotten an xbone port yet? It's the only fucking 360 game I have any desire to replay, and all 8 elf bowlings will get ported before it.

>>379019405
I'm gong to assume the series is dead if we don't get a trailer soon

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Why does cookieface hate NG+?

It's seriously the only flaw with NGB. You might as well not collect any scarabs after you get the big buster sword because you'll only get to enjoy that plasma sword for two whole seconds before the game is over. Why did he take it out when vanilla had it?

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>>379019907
>wanting Dark Dragon Blade from the very start
>wanting the game to be easy due to the health upgrades and items you will get from the start
>wanting to have more fun
No way

>>379018117
ng2 doesn't have that problem

Black was better.

>Muh platforming
Who cares.

>>379022207
t. neogaf hipster trying to get his creds by liking a niche xbox game

>>379014970
But 360 won't be at 1080p minimum.

>>379023126
doesnt matter son

360 games will age just fine because it was the first hd console. the game has a clean look with a lot of visual variety and effects and chaos going on at once. the slicing and splattering effects in particular are top notch. and it upscales just fine. remember, you play the game, not the graphics or resolution

>>379023348
I fucking hate how ugly and messy NG3:RE's art style is. It lacks the visual flair and more 'clean' look of NG2. It's definitely the much more impressive game, considering the time it came out on.

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>>379013239
Played a lot of action games in my life, but NG2 is definitely my all-time favorite. The limb severing mechanic led to some extremely interesting fights and strategy.

Too bad NGSigma2 ruined the game. I would have liked to be able to play NG2 on my PS3.

>>379023520
I think NG3 has that artstyle because the story is all "IS RYU TRULY A HERO?". Which is fine, the story was good and all, but who the fuck plays an action game to get moral dilemma?

>>379022207
But the platforming legitimately sucks in that game. Probably would've been better if they nixed those sections and focus on what the game does best, which is visceral fast paced action.

>>379013239
Still waiting for back compat plz Microsoft. Can't be assed getting my 360 out to play one game.

>>379023520
we dont talk about ng3 here. but i agree, the art style shift looked really cheesy, same with the messy menu designs. in game it looked decent, but i wouldnt call it an improvement over 2. i just really like ryus model and the girls models in 2, plus the venice area, the hell, the jungle, the airship. the game just looks sharp and clean, idk shit about art but it has a very iconic look.

>>379013380
Mah nigga.

>>379023614
In addition to the game changes, I could never get used to ps3 controller. The ps1, 2 and 3 controllers are the worst controllers i have ever used. Only handlets or cripples could call it comfortable i feel like. If you told me to play ng2 with a dualshock id laugh in your face

>>379021969
Bullshit.

>>379013380
Game seems fun but it's one of those games that made me realize I'm a casual and that's okay. God Hand is too damn hard. I died like 10 times in the first level and decided to accept my casual status.

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>>379025154

>>379024685
I think they improved it immensely with the PS4 controller by doing something as simple as giving the controller actual fucking triggers, but I more or less agree with you.

>>379025351
Damn son, the first levels are not even that hard other than arguably the gay duo.
But kudos for accepting your mistakes rather than blaming the game.

>>379025489
Yeah the ps4 controller is fine, its bigger, has triggers, the sticks are better. I could use it with no complaints. Still prefer 360 and one controllers though

>>379025745
After approximately a year of somewhat tame use, my left joystick has problems registering when I move left or do diagonal movement, and the triggers have become squeaky, and I didn't really treated the controller badly or anything.

Maybe my case is just an exception, but it has left me feeling sour about the controller.

>>379025583
It just controls and plays so wildly different from anything else I've played. I didn't really have the patience to learn it. Shame since I find the hokeyness of it super charming. I love all the character interactions and cut scenes. In fact it's the only game I've ever watched a let's play of. Really entertaining to watch someone that knows what they're doing.

>>379025583
>arguably the gay duo.
What other action games have the first boss as a casual filter?

>>379026123
NG1 and DMC3.

>>379025472
NG2 runs at 586p or something like that, I wish the 360 was that powerful or have a PC port to make the game look like that.

>>379026123
Viewtiful Joe.

>>379026042
I know what you mean about the quality. Both the LT and RT triggers on mine broke and dont fully register. And the stick is torn up to hell. So it may be built badly, but the actual shape and feel of it, its alright. Notciable improvement over the last 3

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>>379013239
happy birthday

>>379024685
Git gud

>m-muh deathgrips
That's not how you're supposed to hold those controllers.

>>379025489
Triggers were a mistake. PS1 and PS2 controllers are still better than the PS4's.

>>379013239
>Ninja Gaiden is hibernating
>Devil May Cry is in limbo
>only Bayonetta is still alive. 3rd one most likely will happen
Unfair. Did Kamiya make a deal with the devil where he gave his hair for success.

>>379026616
Bayo is the only one not at the mercy of a huge publisher

>>379026583
I shouldnt have to "try" to hold it. I should be able to pick up and it fits in my hand comfortably. Nintendo, even with their retarded gimmicky controllers still understand this. Except the n64, that thing is a piece of junk. Microsoft has the best controllers, end of

>>379026758
This

>>379026758
It's at the mercy of Sega though, Bayo 3 is literally never happening.

>>379013239
>greatest action game
>camera 100% non-functional

Nope. Maybe PS3 version was better but 360 version was unplayable.

>>379027075
>camera 100% non-functional
Explain

>>379025472
I own it, no screenshot can tell me otherwise.

>>379026798
I can pick up Dualshocks naturally. They are perfectly fine. Plus, they have a very good d-pad compared to most stock controllers from 6th to 8th gen, excluding Xbone's.

>>379027445
I don't know if it's me, but I find it more comfortable to use the DS3's d-pad than the DS4's.

Maybe it's the fact the Dualshock stayed the same for nearly 20 years and I'm so used to it.

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>all the autistic retards ITT

>>379027671
DS4's dpad is more elevated and concave compared to past ones, so it doesn't let you slide your thumb as smoothly as before. Maybe that's why.

Sonyfags like to praise the DS4, but in fact, it's one step forward and one step back.

>>379013380
Imagine Party Babyz was better anon.

It's the greatest action game for me. I have yet to play another action game with controls as tight as Ninja Gaiden. It's like the Super Mario of action game. Everything feels so fucking good and responsive with each move and button strike. The tactile response is off the charts. Bayonetta is a close second. DMC3 just feels slippery to me.

>>379028023
That makes sense. I find it slightly uncomfortable to try and make fast motions on ir for fighters, but it's rather easy to do with any dualshock before it.

NG2 was redundant. Gameplay was boring. I literally got bored while playing it and just stopped.

>>379026758
Well technically it is, but SEGA is actually way more willing to actually make Bayo 3 than the others are with their equivalents.

I'm also hoping we get W1,001 someday as well.

>>379028462
Tell me about it. I was so fucking happy to finally play KOF14 with my PS2 pad when I got my controller adapter.

>>379027075
The camera system was actually improved from NGB, I thought. For as good as NGB is and how much worse NG2 is, the camera in Black has never been all that good to me and I liked that during boss fights, you could switch between the camera focusing on the boss or freeing the camera up so that you could focus on the adds, which greatly helped.

Seriously, having to fight enemies while the camera was focused on the boss could be awkward as fuck in Black.

>>379013239
Good but massively inferior to the original/Black/Sigma

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>>379015232
>DMC
>Shit series
Nah, It just all went downhill after the first game. CUHRAYZEEfags need to be neutered because they don't understand what makes action games great. Hint: It's not comboing shit that can't fight back into oblivion while enemies take turns attacking like good little sandbags.

>>379031676
But it takes awhile to get to the point where you can do combos like that. And the enemies do fight back and can break you out of your combos. You're making it sound like they're fucking Musou enemies.

>>379015856
It isn't, fuck you pal. You're the reason devs can't make a straightforward beat em up anymore and have to fill games with brainless fluff that makes replaying a chore.

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Ninja Gaiden Black is apparently playable on xbox 360. Before I hook it back up, how do original Xbox games look through a 360's HDMI? Are they better?

>>379027842
Haha ikr XD!

>>379033243
>that first screen

I was never really an action game guy, but for whatever reason I took a chance on Ninja Gaiden 2 when it first came out. And this first screen fucked me up so many times. It took a little while but I finally realized that oh, this game actually makes use of blocking, something I had never come across in the other beat-em-up games I'd played. The idea of being careful and picking my moments rather than brute forcing my way though by spamming the attack button was completely foreign to me.

Once I understood the ebb and flow of combat, this game was so much fucking fun. I have no idea if it's the best action game ever made, but it's certainly my favorite.

>>379013239
>endless

No, it got old.

>>379033852
thanks for your contribution, sky city tokyo is my favorite level of the NG series and one of my favorite levels of gaming in general, its kinda sad that hack n slash games dont have that kind of gore anymore
>inb4 edgy
yeah i know gore is not necessary for an action game, but i just think its more fullfilling to see blood when you swing a sword around at the apeed of light

>>379034867
Nothing edgy about it, it's one of the most effective and intuitive ways to give feedback to the player

>>379033167
It looks marginally cleaned up but there is a handful of problems from the emulation. If youre asking if its blurry or anything like that, no it looks fine. Its even on the 360 store to buy under the xbox classics line

You know, one thing I never notice NGfags ever bring up in these sorts of threads is how much more execution DMC requires at the highest levels. Meme about punch bag enemies all you want, but for starters, enemies can be pretty dangerous in DMC for lower-level players and a big part of the learning curve is learning how to effectively dodge them to make them look like a joke. But aside from that, stringing combos together in DMC requires a lot of practice. Reliably jump-cancelling in DMC is actually really damn hard to do and it's not like anyone's going to get it down on their first try. And that's just one aspect of higher-level play.

Execution in NG by comparison isn't nearly as hard. The series is the exact opposite, where enemies and bosses are that much more aggressive, yet defensive at the same time, being overall harder than DMC's enemies. But once you have a handle on the combat system, it's not that hard to pull off some stylish combos on a lone enemy or two and the series doesn't really have anything that's as hard to get down as Style-switching or guard-flying.

Just saying.

>>379034867
>sky city tokyo is my favorite level of the NG series and one of my favorite levels of gaming in general,
This. It's a damn shame that the whole game doesn't take place there. It's the most aesthetically pleasing area in the entirety of Ninja Gaiden.

>>379035764
Cutscenes play at half speed or some shit

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>>379013239
Happy birthday and a lot of take a sucks to my fellow Ninjas around the world.

That fight on the stairs in chapter 10 is one of my favorite moments in a action game and it's one of the rare occasions where frame drops made a sequence look cool.

>>379014970
get a dead console to work as a paperweight?

>>379037929
XD

>>379013239
Happy birthday. I've always remembered the sound of Tonfas slapping flesh, it's fantastic; but the Lunar Staff is my favourite weapon.

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>>379040331
>crunch crunch
>slicing demons with the axe
>breaking apart the scaly fish guys
>executing the robots

what immaculate sound design

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>People are actually trying to push the NG2>Black meme

Yeah I sure love the exploding shuriken span and the straight up bullshit like the exploding Armadillo boss.
>G-git gud!
Fucking Itagaki himself has come out and apologized for NG2's annoying horseshit; the man who never buckles for anyone.

>>379042821
If you complain about incendiary shurikens, you fucking suck and need to learn how to block and counter. It's easy as hell. That's all. Git gud.

>>379042821
Really not that hard to avoid

Blocking nullifies a lot of them or makes you take like 5% damage from it. And block + jump spamming will make them miss you. You can skim by on the first three difficulties but if you dont know this on master ninja, you wont make it past the first level

>>379044017
You can literally parry the explosions. Exploding shurikens are just a defense check which >>379042821 failed.

Ninja Gaiden 2 was a piece of fucking dogshit and a complete insult to Ninja Gaiden Black's very existence.

>>379044169
/thread

but OP Devil May Cry 3 came out in 2005.

>>379013646
Even Razor's Edge is TRASH. NG3 has problems with core gameplay and design elements that make it too depressing to think about most of the time.

>>379044169
>>379044228
Hola reddit! *sips coffee mug while skimming some news* Look how *bites into organic fruit* superior the first game is! Ah, to be this *combs mustache with $300 mustache kit* enlightened, I pity thee who will never *pats pasty flabby stomach* ascend to this level...

I actually liked Razor's Edge more than both versions of 2. That's sad.

>>379013578
>>379013646
>>379014007
You are huge memes

If all the enemies in NG2 weren't input reading faggots and the bosses actually bothered to telegraph their attacks, maybe the game would be something approaching playable.

>>379045519
You sound like a sore loser.

>>379044432
That's some shit taste you have there.