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Does anyone else dislike the unjust hate Nintendo has been getting

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Does anyone else dislike the unjust hate Nintendo has been getting around here lately?

>Only dev willing to take risks with a new IP (Splatoon, Arms)
>Only dev not afraid to reinvent only series (BotW)
>Only company that still cares about their consumer base (free games every month with online)
>Only company willing to give free multiplayer game demos that you can actually play online (again, Arms and Splatoon)

Why the hate?
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Because people here hate fun
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dont bother with people trying to shit on nintendo, its mostly salty sonybabies.
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>>379012535
This. Nintendo is literally Fun: The Company.
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>>379012458
>>Only company that still cares about their consumer base

Nop, see what they did to pokémon uranium and metroid remake

>(free games every month with online)

So does Sony and Microsoft.
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>>379012848
>So does Sony and Microsoft.

Shovelware doesn't count
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>>379012848
Speaking of Sony and Microsoft, they're the ones who are putting out entirely free multiplayer games, like Let It Die and Sea of Thieves. Arms and Splatoon only get open betas and one free weekend, which are things that are found in scores on not just PC, but occasionally on the other 7th and 8th Gen consoles as well. Not to mention that, if we're talking about demos, Nintendo is the one who actively limits the number of times you can launch one.
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>free games
>that you have to pay for
>free paid games

t-thanks nintendo
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I don't hate Nintendo, I'm just evidently not the target market. The most egregious thing they've done in my mind is the DLC for the new Fire Emblems. It's out of control and worse than even Square Enix and EA, and I'd sooner replay Mankind Divided before any one Fire Emblem game. Other than that I'd personally say Iwata as president was a mistake, but it wasn't really a crime. Just one misstep among many.

Also I already played No Man's Sky, so BotW had little affect on me
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>>379013094
>Let It Die and Sea of Thieves.

Literally cellphone tier f2p garbage, try again pony
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>>379012458
>splatoon
>clone of paint wars
>arms
>literal clone of their own boxing game

>taking risks with new ideas
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>>379013414
>clone
>using words you have no idea what they mean
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>>379013550
>its the same game with a slightly different element
>its an entirely new concept!
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>>379012458
You can always fuck back off to MyNintendoNews.com, you thinskinned pussyfaggot Nintendicksucker.
Why don't you write Iwata a letter?
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I liked Nintendo but they've made so many bad choices as always, like the pointless 3D effect on the 3DS, the poor online on their consoles, region locking on 3DS and Wii U, their horribly underpowered consoles, obsession with gimmicks, and for everything that turns out good like BoTW they make missteps everywhere else like Paper Mario or Fed Force or splitting up Fire Emblem into 3 games
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>>379013312
Ok well Microsoft just rebuilt Phantom Dust without access to the final source code and released it for free. New resolutions now properly displays textures in a way the original Xbox couldn't, and they edited the shop to allow both a better balanced single player campaign and let peeps immediately jump into multiplayer.
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>>379013414
>paint wars
>a garbage indie game you only learned about because you're a dedicated 4chan shitposter
>wii boxing
>anything like Arms

I guess Arms is just a Mortal Kombat clone because you punch shit right
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>sony gives 6 games a month of recent releases at $50 a year, or 0.69 a game
>nintendo gives 1 game of roms psp could emulate back in 2004 for $20 a year or 1.67 a game
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>>379013996
oh so its a clone of a garbage indie game

okay

>its totally different because you do the same thing but move

okay
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>>379012458
>hate Nintendo has been getting around here
fug. what /v/ have you been going to?
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>>379013680
There's literally nothing in common
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>>379012458
/v/ is filled to burst with contrarian hipsters.

Hating on anything is the only "safe" thing you can do here without someone shitting on you for your "shit tastes"

Just ignore them.
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>>379012458
>Why the hate?
Because I fell for the Wii U scam.
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>>379014336
yeah
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>>379014223
Oh, no, you're right, I forgot about the part in Wii Boxing where you could grab people, use super moves, and equip different weapons or use different characters with unique mobility options.
Or the boss fights. Or the online play.

Then again, you're a dedicated shitposter who's memorized the name of a 3-star rated Xbox Live indie game just for the sake of shitposting on /v/, so I guess rational thought isn't your first forte.
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>>379014696
are you done with your passive-aggressive autism outburst?
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>>379014696
>i forgot about the part where its just the same game with a few additional parts
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Every company gets hate but it's easier to diss Nintendo since they produce hardware and software. If there's a problem with persona, you blame atlus not sony. Nintendo has to own all their mistakes and people like to rub them in while invalidating any accomplishments.
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>>379015119
What are some of Nintendo's accomplishments since 2002? Marketing and R.O.I.?
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>>379015335
If you're gonna be that reductionist, what has any gaming company accomplished since 2002?
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>>379013764
need someone to talk to?
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>>379013414
>he thinks arms and wii boxing are the same because 'uuuuuuuuh they wear boxing gloves and punch stuff and are on a Nintendo console lol'
When will this meme die
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>>379015606
>its wrong because i added a uuuuuuuh into it
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>>379015606
Honestly, the real issue here is that Fight Night Round 2 isn't recognised as the real innovator.

As a game with boxing gloves on a Nintendo console, it was out before both games ever were.
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>>379015824
>he still believes they're the same game
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>>379016146
>he believes clones mean its the same game, not a clone
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>>379015440
What does that have to do with anything? You said X has accomplishments, so I inquired. Now you're talking about Y and Z.

Regardless, I couldn't give a flying fuck about Sony or Microsoft. I own a PS4 more as a gamble than anything, a wager that developers I like will develop for it. It shouldn't even be noteworthy that Nintendo's hardware is consistently underpowered in the goofy world of locked computers, but it is, because they are. All I really care about are developers, and developers don't seem very attracted to Nintendo's units, so all you've got are a half dozen second-party groups and EAD/EPD, both of which I'm consistently disappointed in.

At the end of the day Sony, at least this time around, have more chances for lightning to strike. I don't know how they did it, but that's pretty much all there is to it.
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>>379015894
The games with boxing gloves on a Nintendo console rabbit hole goes so much deeper.
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>>379016297
>he believes
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>>379012950

And ancient NES and SNES games do? Come the fuck on dude.
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>>379016428
>he
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>>379016297
>he's so shitter shattered that he's redefining what he said on an anonymous image board just to not be wrong

>he's greentexting
>he's
>
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>>379016461
>has
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>>379016431
They do because they actually made the industry what they are today and are classics. Nobody gives a shit about XBL shovelware
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People can hate Nintendo if they went I don't care .it's more annoying when the thread becomes people arguing over on something there not gonna agree on.
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>>379012458
>Respawn
>Only devs willing to make dramatic changes to their game before release
>Favors the hardcore players that want to go fast in first person shooters
>Fought EA to have free DLC that affects gameplay, using the money that was meant for marketing to make up for losses
>Has the only non-bullshit DLC model of any competitive shooter game right now, no loot box shit
Why the hate?
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>>379016921
That's what an argument is, though. Two (minimum) people presenting contradictory opinions about a subject.
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I will never understand why people get emotionally invested in corporations.
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>>379016910

Except most of their games aren't XBL shovelware, same with PSN, sure there's bad months but they offer very good games on occassion.

Seriously, try arguing in good faith, if you claim XBL or Sony stuff doesn't count then Nintendo's old games don't count either.
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>>379012458
>>Only company that still cares about their consumer base (free games every month with online)

So that is how you fags are spinning it. I should be surprised since this is the third time I've seen this happen.
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>>379016910
Anyone with a PC from this century can emulate the entire NES/SNES library, and besides that for me I still own all my old consoles and games so I hardly count "free" games from 20 years ago I can already play a benefit or justification for paying.
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>>379017419

There's one thing I'm not clear one, the wording seems to imply you can download and play them for a month, but it can't just be a month right? No company would be that Jewish to offer free stuff and only let you keep it for that month.

Even MS lets you keep your shit without XBL.
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>>379017705
Thats what I've gathered so far as well which cements my argument even further.
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>>379017889
>worst exclusive launch
>BOTW for Switch had more sales than Switch consoles
Explain
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>Only dev willing to take risks with a new IP (Splatoon, Arms)
I'll give you that. Only of the only reasons why they still have my respect.
>Only dev not afraid to reinvent only series (BotW)
Yeah, nah. They jumped on the open world meme bandwagon and did little interesting or new with it. It's still as big and empty and pointless as all the other trash in that category.
>Only company that still cares about their consumer base (free games every month with online)
>Only company willing to give free multiplayer game demos that you can actually play online (again, Arms and Splatoon)
I wish I read this far ahead of time, but you now have my permission to fuck right off. All the other companies do the same fucking shit. They're called betas and both Xbox Live and PS+ offer """""free""""" games with their optional (non-optional) subscription service. You're buttering up the facts for no fucking reason.

Why are people upset? Because Nintendo is refusing a proper online network service and is instead choosing to rely on a smart phone app and some backwards ass 3.5mm analog cable solutions. You want analog audio for headset communications? Fine, but it shouldn't involve three fucking cables coming from two separate devices to get it done. But you know what? If it were free then I wouldn't even bitch because it's at least a step up from the Wii U. But no, that's not the fucking case here either; they're charging $20 a year for the most ass backwards bullshit version of an online service. Fuck off.

>>379016910
OH GEE I CAN'T FUCKING WAIT FOR NINTENDO TO GIVE ME PERMISSION TO PLAY URBAN CHAMPION AND WRECKING CREW! OH PLEASE NINTENDO FUCK ME IN THE ASS HARDER! DEEPER NINTENDO! DEEPER!
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>>379012458
>more baby games
>trying to cash in on the open world genre like the witcher
>yet they don't listen to their consumer, cancel fan games and are JUST now doing what xbox and ps have been doing
>idk if this one is bate or not but there's tons of betas on xbox/playstation
B-but nintendo is the good guys!!
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>>379012535
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I like how people that blindly defend Nintendo conveniently ignore the bad. I noticed you said nothing about Amiibo Festival, Star Fox Zero, Color Splash, Federation Force, Ultra Smash, and Mario Party 10.

Yeah, they make fun games but that doesn't excuse the shit they also throw out to fill in gaps between the good games.
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>>379012848
>Pokemon uranium and Metroid
I'd sue your ass into the ground too if you tried stealing my IPs kid. Fuck you.
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>>379018380

>Animal Crossing models right fucking there to be used in a brand new Wii U game
>Its just used for Amiibo shit
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>>379018380
Their games are also on iphone now.
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>>379017000
Does anyone hate Titanfall 2? It's not a masterpiece by any means but it's the best damn Call of Duty style shooter on the market today. Also, the DLC is pretty pricy but I understand that it's purely cosmetic and basically acts as a donation to the company, so I'm cool with it.
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>>379018380
>waahhh a video game company made video games!!!

So?
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>Only dev willing to take risks with a new IP (Splatoon, Arms)
Death Stranding, Sunset Overdrive
>Only dev not afraid to reinvent only series (BotW)
Killer Instinct,
>Only company that still cares about their consumer base (free games every month with online)
They all do that anon
>Only company willing to give free multiplayer game demos that you can actually play online (again, Arms and Splatoon)
KI is literally free, don't think sony has many first party online games like that
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>>379018407
Here i'll correct you
>I'd sue your ass into the ground too for making the game everyone has been begging for. It makes us look bad! Just buy our game, federation force.
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>>379018380
>I noticed you said nothing about Amiibo Festival, Star Fox Zero, Color Splash, Federation Force, Ultra Smash, and Mario Party 10.
No, they actually defend those games.
Right after Star Fox Zero's launch they were unironically telling people to "git gud" as a defense to the game.
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>>379012458
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>>379018656
>Making the game everyone has been begging for
Nigger, how difficult is it to come up with your own character models, your own content and name the game "NOT METROID". Oh that's right, you won't get brownie points with cuckolds online and you can't ride off of established IPs because you're a lazy shit with no creativity to speak of.
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>>379018590
>Does anyone hate Titanfall 2?
Pretty much any Titanfall 2 thread on /v/ has a number of shitposters infest it.
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>>379018626
Those games are all trash.
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>nintendo invented multiplayer beta tests
get the fuck outta here, guy
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>Nintendo is the only developer that does multiplayer betas

Hmm.
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>>379018626
what were you even trying to argue
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>>379018656

>Samus is the final boss of fed force

What a cruel joke.

>>379018679

>Try out 2 player mode one day
>There's a perfectly serviceable normal control scheme not requiring waggle tablet shit
>But you can't lock on
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>>379018801
I'm actually curious as to what the complaints are. They basically took the CoD formula and made it playable. Maybe that's not your style of game and that's fine but I can't imagine anyone saying that it's bad. Fuck it though, it is what it is.
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>>379018801
And they are all people who haven't played the game.
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>>379018380
Don't forget Fire Emblem with its season pass that costs more than the main game
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>>379012458
>>Only company that still cares about their consumer base (free games every month with online)

Yeah that isn't a blatant lie or anything.
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>>379016910
I know this is bait but they are literally roms
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>>379018793
I guess that's kinda true but the point is, the game was created for metroid fans to have something new to play in that style.
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>>379018909
>Samus is the final boss
Wait what
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>>379018949
The main complaints I see in threads are
>lol it looks like cod
>lol the game's dead

>>379018963
Pretty much.
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>>379018793
It's a fangame for a reason
Do you go to people who draw fanart of characters and tell them to make OC's instead
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>>379018909
Is she really?? Now I have a question, does this game tie into the real games? Let me guess, samus is fucking dead now and the next metroid is going to be of some schmuck we don't care/want to care about.
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>>379019096

The federation force final boss is a possessed Samus or whatever, you fight her in a giant morphball form.

>>379019098

The game is nothing like CoD, the movement system is absurd and even the wall running CoDs don't move as fast as your average titanfall match, its dead in the sense that it has a very small community, but that community is very dedicated, though as a result new people rarely get into it because they always get crushed.
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>>379012458
>Only dev willing to take risks with a new IP (Splatoon, Arms)
>existing IPs are made into half-assed 2D platformers for no reason while others just get put on the back burner because Miyamoto has said he has no idea how to innovate them by throwing in a stupid control scheme
>Only dev not afraid to reinvent only series (BotW)
>more than 30 years to return to what made the series good, while building off of existing open world mechanics
>Only company that still cares about their consumer base (free games every month with online)
>the only company that didn't charge for online will begin charging for online
>Only company willing to give free multiplayer game demos that you can actually play online (again, Arms and Splatoon)
>now even their first-party titles have things like difficulty modes as DLC and multiple season passes
>implying multiplayer demos are exclusive to Nintendo
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>>379018793
Not that guy but I do agree that Nintendo has the right to shut down those projects if they really wanted to. It's a sensitive subject that devalues Nintendo's core brands. It sucks but it is what it is. Freedom Planet is a good example of this; for all intents and purposes it might as well be a Sonic game but it's actually an original IP.

Now, all that being said, if Nintendo tried to stop the Mother 3 translation then they would lose all of my respect. It's one thing to shut down side projects infringing on your IP but it's another thing entirely to stop a fan translation for a game you had decided not to port for years. That's where I draw the line.
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>>379018793
If Nintendo's team of professional developers can't outdo some spic in his basement then that's pretty fucking sad.
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>>379019194
Yes I fucking do. Fan art is illegal. Fanfics are illegal. Fuck all of you. Nintendo did nothing wrong.
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>>379019402
>devalues Nintendo's core brands
Marketer pls
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>>379019436
fag
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>>379019301
Honestly saying that Titanfall 1 and 2 are CoD rip-offs pretty much tells you right away that the person saying it has no clue what they're talking about. CoD ripped off Titanfall 1 with Advanced Warfare literally months after release, and yet people get it into their minds that it's the other way around.
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>>379019436
Nigger.
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>>379019098
Oh, whatever then. I thought it was legitimate complaints about the game. Never mind.
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>>379018809
Nope
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>>379019420
Federation force was their shot at it. Once people disliked the ever-loving fuck out the video and hardly anyone bought it, they got mad at the am2r praise.
I have a feeling nintendo hayes metroid now. I remember they hated conker's bad fur day due to the violence, that's probably the reason they made federation force. It lacks everything that made metroid good.
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>>379019623
Yes you delusional faggot
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>>379019402

They're not even using those brands. Hell fucking Capcom took that silly Megaman vs SF game and made it official, Nintendo could do same with ASMR2 if they wanted, give people something ya know, make some money off someone elses work but they don't even wanna do that.

Really the core issue is how Nintendo is super Japan centric and Metroid does well only in the US, Other M went full on pandering waifu faggorty and it failed, either that or its more Miyamoto meddling since he can't just let something sit, he has to try to re-invent shit only for it to get worse.
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>>379019593
Glad you could understand the frustration.
I think the only legitimate complains I see are the hitscan weapons, which can be pretty bullshit. Hemlock was a nightmare at times.
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>>379012458
>free games every month
>that you lose at the end of the month
HAHAHAHAHA nintenbros are using this as an example of GOOD things Nintendo do? At least with Sony and MS you get to keep your fucking pity games. Nintendo lets you rent them for a month if you pay a subscription fee.
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>>379012458
>Why the hate?
Because of nintenqueers like you who praise Nintendo for the shit Sony and Microsoft were doing for years and forgives every issue.

At least other fanbases have some sort of self-consciousness, but you just slurp on Nintendo's dick 24/7.
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>>379012458
>take risks
>arms
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>>379019948
It's good when nintendo does it!!!! nintendo are the good guys!!!!!!!! AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!
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>>379019931
They changed that though. As long as your membership is valid, you can play from the game library at any time. You lose them when your membership expires
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>>379012458
I don't hate Nintendo. I hate its retarded fanbase.
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>>379019931
>WAAAH WHY WONT THEY GIVE ME FREE SHIT
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>>379012458
I'm not going to hold back on saying it because I read constant hate on the shooter genre. Those are literally games for little kids. You can argue kids play shooters but arms and splatoon were literally created for 4-8 year olds. "silly fun with bright colorful characters"
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>>379019452
It's true though. With Poke'mon Uranium, I have a brand new, high quality Poke'mon adventure for free. I'll play this for a few months and maybe by then the new Poke'mon game will be on sale.

It's a broad generalization but that's the idea. You're costing Nintendo potential sales by directly attracting their customers. On the other hand, if it were an original IP then Nintendo couldn't do shit but at the same time it wouldn't gather anywhere near as much attention either. The only reason people do fan games is because the audience is already there and a lot of the art direction has already been established. That's a lot of work already done but it comes at a small cost to the IP holder. Don't get me wrong, it sucks that Nintendo never released their Metroid 2 remake for the Game Boy Color or that they'll never make Metroid: Dread, but fan games aren't the answer. The fans should make original IPs, period. It can be Metroid in everything but name but as soon as you slap the name on there you start treading dangerous waters for such little gain.
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>hordes all of their IPs on their shitty gimmicky console

Some Nintendo games these days are still pretty fun and maybe worth buying, but I don't see any of them worth buying that piece of shit and dealing with their online system just to play them. Nintendo needs to fuck off out of the console wars and go third party.
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>>379012458
>Why the hate

You completely forgot about
>Amiibos
>4 different types of 3ds models
>all that praise for 3rd party devs for the switch and some of them already dropped out
>instead of letting the 3ds die to focus on the switch, they are still releasing games along with a new 2ds model
>just about every series they tried to revive was met with criticism
Yes, even breath of the wild
>that fucking online netcode
>now you need 3rd party tools to use voice-chat
>virtual console consists of fucking genesis games
>the one game they were banking on, BotW, won't hold people over nearly long enough for other major titles to come out

The hype for BoTW is already dying out because of all the missed opportunities they had with the game. I'd be willing to let it slide normally, but not after being delayed for 4 years. It's good that they did something new, but fuck me if I didn't buy into the hype as much I wouldn't be as let down.

Arms seems nice but I'm not really a fan of online games. I want more single player shit damn it. Would it kill them to port over some fucking snes, gba and wii games?
Don't really feel like emulating them.
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>>379020249
>Splatoon
>Targeted towards younger people
>General player age is in the young adult range

>Call of Duty
>Targeted toward the young adult range
>General player age is in the child range
This cannot be a coincidence
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>>379020349
>would rather buy shit hardware with shit games than shit hardware with good games
I don't understand
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>>379014484
This, fuck you OP
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>>379012458
>unjust
>paid online
I say they earned it.
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>>379019790
And I loved that Capcom did that, it was awesome, but the point is that it was by choice. If Nintendo doesn't want to go down that path then that's their choice to make. I dislike that they do it that way but I understand that it's their IP and they're completely free to handle it however they want.
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>>379020482
I'm PC. There aren't many Microsoft/Sony IPs that appear exclusively on their systems that I care for, so I don't see them as a big deal. What does Microsoft even have besides fucking Halo?
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>>379020608
So you're literally just mad that Nintendo games aren't on PC
Just buy a Nintendo system, they cost less than a good monitor
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>>379020513
I've been thinking of hacking mine to play gamecube games and shit.
Don't know if it's really worth it though.
I only have Bayo 2, Wonderful 101, and the metroid prime collection for it.
It feels like I dodged a bullet, but at the same time I literally only have 3 games for the fucking thing.
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>>379020731
I might consider it anon but I'm still waiting on those good Nintendo games to come out first.
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>>379020731
But they are. Most of Nintendo shit is emulateable.
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>>379020870
If there aren't any good games then why are you mad about it in the first place?
>>379020875
Why emulate it if it's shit?
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>>379020349
>Nintendo needs to fuck off out of the console wars and go third party.
I hate to say it but I almost agree. I appreciate that Nintendo is always trying new shit and I like that the Switch tries to bridge the gap between home and portable consoles but they're push for motion controls, touch screens, and other gimmicks as always been an annoyance for me. They're online network was also always really poor but at least it was free. Now they're charging for it and they're doing some ass backwards shit with it too. The sad part is that they won't have to fix anything because it's still going to sell gangbucks. I just hope the competition doesn't look at Nintendo and see that they can get away with less.
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>>379020851
Nah man its totally worth it. You already have a Wii U, might as well. I know nothing about technology and shit and it took me like an hour to do. You basically just copy some files to an SD card and put it in your wiiU, and let it do the rest.
Plus GC games look great through HDMI.
I'd definitely check out Splatoon, Yoshi's Woolly World, DKTF, 3D World, Smash, and Pikmin 3 since they're free.
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>>379020963
Not him but I'd be mad too if a salesman kept trying to sell me shit and he won't leave because everyone around me kept buying his shit.
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>>379020875
The one console I still own is a modded Wii that can play all of their games up to that system.

>>379020963
Wasn't trying to come off as angry, just annoyed. From an outside perspective seeing Nintendo still in the race despite being clearly inferior in just about every way to the other two is kind of depressing.
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>>379019536
But that CoD spent three years in development and was made by a new company(sledgehammer) for the CoD franchise. Not saying advanced warfare was fun(only ever played it with friends because we gameshared on psn and bantered a lot) but it wasn't a rip off last second change to the clunky jumpy arena shooter CoD was just because Titanfall was announced
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>>379021059
What else can you do with a hacked Wii U? I already own most of the games I care to play on it. Is there anything else special I can do with it? I assume that general emulation (NES, Genesis, ect.) is a given.
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>>379013764
same here when do I get invited to rooftop parties to show strangers how fun the micro math management of pokemon is.
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>Only company that still cares about their consumer base (free games every month with online)
All three have that
>Only company that still cares about their consumer base
Amiibos, ridiculous DLC (see Fire Emblem, NSMB2), full price remasters that add nothing of significance (Zelda in particular).
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>>379021284
It has retroarch. It can emulate every Nintendo system except 3DS and Switch. You can also inject DS and GBA games if they aren't on the eshop.
I've heard it has PS1 emulation but I haven't tried that myself.
There's a homebrew app that lets you use the gamecube adapter (or any other USB controller) for any Wii U game, it replaces a pro controller input. So you can play WWHD with the GC controller and shit
Also has access to all of the Wii homebrew, so you can use stuff like Nintendont and USB Loader GX
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>>379021168
Inferior, except for the games which you just said you play on your modded Wii. The games are the most important part of the hobby.
>>379021124
Nintendo isn't a salesman. They're not approaching you and selling you anything.
I'm not going to get mad at Dole for having bananas at the grocery store just because I don't like bananas. I could just...not buy them.
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>>379021187
Basically this. Respawn Entertainment, founded by two main Infinity Ward members, saw what Sledgehammer was going for and put their own spin on it. They did a really damn fucking good job at it too as Titanfall was new, interesting, and polished, albeit with several flaws. Titanfall 2 smoothed out the edges significantly and it's not perfect but it's the best damn multiplayer shooter of its kind right now. However, anyone saying that CoD ripped off TF isn't gathering all the facts. No one necessarily ripped off one another but it's important to understand that no one was entirely original either.
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>>379021519
Why would you emulate on a Wii U instead of a Raspberry pi or a toaster windows PC? At least with systems like the PSP/Vita you had the portability advantage.
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>>379021532
Of course anon but I'm talking about hardware. Why does Nintendo feel the need to come up with a gimmicky underpowered half mobile/half console machine each generation that their games are only available on and gets minimal third party dev support compared to the others? And why is this system packaged with horrid online and support? Why?

Do they actually think they can pull off what they did with the Wii ten years ago and have every other 40-something ultracasual buy a Switch then immediately abandon it in the cabinet under their TV to collect dust? If that's what they are actually hoping to achieve with a cheap gimmick then why is their marketing for it so shitty? Nothing makes sense. I don't particularly like the other consoles either but at least they have modern hardware and decent dev support.
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>>379021886
I like the gamepad's ergonomics for GBA games, it kind of feels like a jumbo GBA.
And playing DS games on a Wii U is better than PC because it has a touch screen. Maybe not as a good as a flashcart but still good
And I prefer to play N64 and GC games on Wii U because I can still do local multiplayer with my friends and I can even use N64 controllers on Wii U through a USB adapter
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>>379022068
Like I said, if the games are fun that is what matters.
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>>379012458
>Does anyone else dislike the unjust hate Nintendo has been getting around here lately?
It's /v/, everyone gets it bad. /v/ is just a board for shitposting about vidya.
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>>379020469
>>General player age is in the young adult range

[citation needed]
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>>379021532
I like video games a lot. Anyone making video game hardware, software, and accessories are adding it to a potential pool of things I can buy. I like to spend the time considering all of my options in what I should buy, especially since this shit gets expensive down the road. Nintendo is, by far, doing it the worst and they're not going anywhere. That's the part that sucks. They make a few excellent games a year but that doesn't excuse their shitty service and stupid ass gimmicks. Maybe the inferior hardware makes it easier for them to develop games but it hasn't stopped developers from making great games on the competition's hardware.
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>>379012848
>Protecting you IP is now an act of hate against fans.
Call me a corporate shill, but if those games weren't stopped, a flood a shitty fan games would overwhelm the internet.
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>>379012458
Why do Nintendo fans think people are just going to forget the years of bullshit they've given us just because they made a new Zelda game that everyone likes?
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>>379012458
Bait but
>willing to take risks with new and existing IP
Horizon and days gone are new IP, and GoW is completely different from past ones
>only dev to care about their consumer base
PS+ games are still great, most new games are usually 10 percent off if you pre-order the week before release, and weekly deals are great
>free multiplayer games
PS+ actually has free games covering such genres as MMORPG, Sports, MOBA, racing, sims, and arcades. PS+ also gives you access to great beats like the assassins creed multiplayer, or the uncharted multiplayer, or the For Honor multiplayer and so on
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>>379022459

A flood of shitty fan games already overwhelm the internet you stupid fuck.

The only reason those got stopped is because they got a lot of press.
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For real, i dislike Nintendo due Mario eternal shilling with games like Mario Tennis, Mario Soccer, Mario Bocce and censor and localization shit.
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>>379022168
How you play the games matters too. The N64 controller would be deemed unusable by today's standards. It's a problem that the Wii U is stuck with a huge ass controller. It's ridiculous that Nintendo is pushing for online play with Switch without a proper in game chat system. It's insane that this would be unacceptable for the competition but Nintendo will continue to profit from the bare minimum. They're like the spoiled rich kid that gets a free pass for doing minimum effort. Some of their games are excellent but Splatoon 2 and ARMS is worthless since they're behind an online paywall that offers so little to the consumer. If Switch had in game party chat and a wireless headset then I wouldn't bitch so much.
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>>379022704
It's fine if they're shitty because then no one would play them anyway. It's a problem if they're good though. Why buy the new Pokemon when Uranium has the same level of polish? I wouldn't know because I don't actually play Pokemon but I definitely understand the concern. Trying to make a serious effort project with a major IP is always asking for trouble.
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>>379022963
>N64 controller would be deemed unusable by today's standards
Well yeah, it came out almost 20 years ago. I would say the same for the original PS1 analog and the Dreamcast controller too. Technology is better now.

>It's a problem that the Wii U is stuck with a huge ass controller
It's really very comfortable to me. You can buy a pro controller anon. A bigger problem is the Xbox D-pad, they still haven't gotten it right after all this time.

The online thing is a legitimate complaint though I've never had a problem not using chat on Splatoon or any other online game, Nintendo or not.
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>>379017000
You forgot
>and then they went full retard and made it an Xbone exclusive, alienating everyone and anyone who was interested in it in the first place not only by muddying the well but outright shitting in it
I'm PC+Sony+Nintendo and I couldn't give less of a fuck if they eat shit and die. I'm also not going to touch the sequel. They deserve to eat shit and die for sucking Microsoft dick.
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>>379022963
To be fair the n64 was the first 3d console. Too bad when they release the near perfect GC controller they then regress into the chaos of Wiimotes and nunchucks and gamepads while offering the acceptable Pro controller as a side purchase.

>>379023140
Fan games would only appeal to adults, and adult pokemon fans are manchildren who would only buy official releases for proper online play and back support with previous gens rather than enjoy the actual game story. I never followed Uranium but that sounds like too much for a fan game.
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Half of the people shitting on Nintendo right now are long time fans who are pissed about getting shit on
>mobile games
>ridiculous amounts of amiibo-locked content
>E3 2015
>Federation Force
>Star Fox Zero
>Color Splash
>Amiibo Festival
>censorship even worse than before
>Wii U getting practically abandoned shortly after Splatoon
>paid online
>fan projects getting shut down because Nintendo can't stand the idea of someone making a better game than them
>>379018590
Titanfall 2 isn't just the best CoD-style shooter, it's the best multiplayer shooter period in years.
>>379023436
t. Overcuck
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>>379012458
>new nintendo
>superior fun modern gameplay
>but no more celeb executives
>no more reggie
>no more trill bill
>no more prease understandu

at what fucking cost
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>>379023552
>t. Overcuck
I don't understand.
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>>379023436
>Titanfall 1 was exclusive to Xbone and PC
>Titanfall 2 comes out on Xbone, PC, and PS4
>People still find shit to complain about
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>>379023369

The DC controller sure, but the PS1 controller no, hell the current PS4 controller has just been an evolution of that PS1 controller.

>>379023552

I'd say this is accurate, I've had Nintendo consoles since I was 4 but they just keep shitting the bed time and time again.
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>>379012458
>>Only dev willing to take risks with a new IP
Yeah, nobody else is making new IPs...
>>Only dev not afraid to reinvent only series
Hahaha
>>Only company that still cares about their consumer base
They made disc locked content a norm for their games and is charging people for online they have to manage with their PHONE.

>>Only company willing to give free multiplayer game demos that you can actually play online
Everyond else calls those beta tests, and they let you do it over a range of time rather than little bursts every now and then.
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>>379023597
>>superior fun modern gameplay
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>>379023748

Not just disc locked content.

Disc locked content requiring a fucking amiibo, its one thing to charge me 5 bucks for some stupid costume, its another making me pay 11.99 for some shitty plastic thing that I might not even be able to find depending on where I live.
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>>379023704
I'm not complaining. I'm just calling the devs full retards to a)make a deal with EA and b) make it xbone exclusive
They killed the franchise and the potential it might have had themselves.
Enjoy your dead IP.
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>>379023941
>Nintendo has released games that would cost hundreds of dollars in total for you to have actual full access to the content on the disc

I hate it.
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>>379023958
>>I'm not complaining.
>Proceeds to act like a salty little bitch about it and being glad about misfortune
People never let shit go, Christ.
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>>379023497
>near perfect GC controller
I want this meme to die
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>>379024358
now you are just being bitter and jaded.
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>>379025036
The only bitter and jaded one here is you, don't even try to pull your mental gymnastics on me.
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>>379023140
>Why buy the new Pokemon when Uranium has the same level of polish?
How is this a problem? Developers should absolutely compete to prove that their games are worth the money instead of playing free imitations. When a multi-billion dollar long-time professional game company gets outclassed by a couple of guys that do it for free, that's pretty fucking embarrassing.
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>>379012458
>unjustified
>Nintendo

pick one

don't worry it is OK when Nintendo does it :^)
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>>379012458
You know what, you are right, anon.

Nintendo is the best and I can see it clearly now.

It is not like Nintendo could screw up this great thing they have going.

Oh, but here is the thing, I don't have a smartphone, or the money for the extra headset, adapters, and wires that are needed to use the online voice chat system and, with my current job, by the time I will make enough money for all that, I will not be able to afford the online fees that they are charging in January.

I know, I will make a fan game in order to raise money! Surely Nintendo will be cool with me making a fan game for their beloved and well remembered Metroid series.

Oh, and before I go off to spend the next year of my life on this fan game, I gottas ask, do you know how to play virtual console games on the Switch? (I bought all of them on my Wii U and do not see a feature to play them on my Switch, which sucks, because I sold my Wii U to buy the Switch, but I must just have not found the feature yet, right?)

By the way, does anyone have an estimated time on Nintendo's returns? I sent them my Switch because it had dead pixels out of the box, but they said they are sending it back without fixing it, because dead pixels are acceptable and to be expected. (They are replacing my Left Joy-Con though, or, rather, fixing it for me, by using some foam piece or something, but all I had to do was pay shipping, so it all worked out).
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>>379025119
Whatever (:
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>>379012458
All you gotta do is ignore them and enjoy what you love
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>>379025730
>>with my current job, by the time I will make enough money for all that, I will not be able to afford the online fees that they are charging in January.
What kind of job could you possibly be working that you couldn't make a simple 20 dollaroonies? Do you work in a Chinese sweatshop?

>>I know, I will make a fan game in order to raise money! Surely Nintendo will be cool with me making a fan game for their beloved and well remembered Metroid series.
Nintendo's not the only company that C&Ds games, and you should know that you couldn't make a profit off of a fangame if you wanted to. Fangames are just that, games made by fans, and if you're only making it for profit, then I'd question if you actually are a fan.

Most of your arguments fall completely flat, and the only reasonable thing you asked is about the VC stuff, which I can only assume is going to be apart of the online streaming service, and the shit about dead pixels.
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>>379025730
>phones are hard to use
>its not my fault i have no money
>I believe what internet tell me to believe and don't understand my consumer rights
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>>379012458
Nintendo does deserve the hate though.
Because they're slowly becoming like every other shitty company. Starting with the season pass shit. Part of which involved repackaging an older mechanic and putting a pricetag on it.
Now they are charging for their abysmal online play for no justified reason, the Switch has a massive game drought until Christmas and is only selling on advertising just like the PS4 did during its drought period, and the Switch itself is a shoddily designed piece of hardware.
Not only that but the overall quality of their games has been dipping for a while and they've abandoned so many of their IPs.
As someone who has disliked both Microsoft and Sony for a while, I no longer like what Nintendo is doing either and will likely stop buying their consoles and games.
>>379012458
>>379012535
>>379012615
>>379012640
>these four posts being the start of a thread
I see why /v/ is called Nintendogaf nowadays.
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>>379012458
>free games every month with online
it's not free if you have to fucking pay for it
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>>379019194
Creating original work is a lot more enjoyable as an artist, but just like with making games, as an amateur, fan art is nearly a necessity if you want to turn heads.
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>>379012458
Nintendo are constant fuckups. They are one of the few holdouts of a popular company that doesn't really hold any dialogue with fans. How they pick and choose what to listen to is nebulous to say the least. Sometimes they ignore the stream of 10/10s for something like Skyward Sword, hear the cries of staleness from fans, and make Breath of the Wild. Sometimes they look at an online survey and take that as gospel for what people want out of Paper Mario. They make brilliant stuff sometimes but "inconsistent" is the perfect descriptor for them.
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>>379027194
>the cries of staleness from fans
Except most fans had issues with the motion controls and easiness, mostly. The formula itself wasn't the issue.
Breath of the Wild is missing a lot of the good things of the series, though still a decent game, but undeserving of the pedestal people put it on.
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>>379022686
I also think OP is bait but for the sake of discussion I've got to say that his point about risky new IPs was probably more about how the games looked to play rather than them just being new. Days Gone looks like the safest "new" game anyone ever invested money into, and God of War fans not on /v/ all welcomed the shitty movie game direction it decided to go in. Horizon's biggest risk was having a plain Jane female lead, and while it's certainly pretty it didn't do much to rock the boat. Fast travel as a consumable was a neat idea.
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>>379023140
I don't think this was their concern because Uranium was trash and reeked of being a fan-game from minute one.
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Why are you hating the company if you're not spending your money on their products and services?
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>>379012458
>>Only dev willing to take risks with a new IP (Splatoon, Arms)
Not even remotely true. And I can't believe you're brining Splatoon 2 into this when it's the biggest rehash they've ever shit out. Most people don't even recognize it as an actual sequel, it's so samey
>>Only dev not afraid to reinvent only series (BotW)
Again not true. Just this year we got RE7 which was a radical departure from the series. FFXV was very different. Hell, all BotW did was ripoff Skyrim. So risky.
>>Only company that still cares about their consumer base (free games every month with online)
Lol are you for real? Yeah I think DMCA'ing AM2R really shows how much they care about their fans. And I'll just take your free roms as a joke, especially since they massively backpedaled on that because of how universally terrible everyone thought it was.
>>Only company willing to give free multiplayer game demos that you can actually play online (again, Arms and Splatoon)
That you can only play for very specific 1 hour windows? You can't even play the Splatoon 2 demo anymore.
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>>379013094
Let It Die wasn't developed or published by Sony.
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>>379027501
Well the formula of the five 3D Zelda games before Breath of the Wild was only good in the N64 games where the dungeons interesting overarching puzzles and less handholding. So in truth it hasn't been expanded upon properly since Majora.

To say that people weren't bitching about this shit getting old at Skyward Sword though is total revisionism. Perhaps that issue of easiness plus the staleness were not mutually exclusive problems and likely fed into the negative fan response together. Breath of the Wild is a different kind of game to be sure but if you really comb through the praise from more scrutinizing sources is for its world design and interactivity being leagues above other open world games, where the world may as well be window dressing. Not so much it being the definitive Zelda experience. Obviously there are folks saying that too, but they're probably fucking normalfags.
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>>379012458
>unjust hate
>cant even produce enough consoles, let alone enough compelling games to play on said console
>constantly repaying for old games
>paid online bandwagon
>hardware design flaws galore

i dont hate nintendo but what in the fuck are they doing?
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>>379012458
>what is sony japan studio
>what is nier automata
>what is games with gold and PS+
>what is literally every public beta
>>
>free games
Are Nintendofags really falling for the same shit Sonyfags did to the point where they say the same stupidity?
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>>379028830
>>what is nier automata
Platinum game, not Sony. Not even Sony exclusive
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My gripe with nintendo is this. So they're going to charge for online still yes? It's free now because there is no multiplayer games even out. When multiplayer games DO come out, isn't it just like splatoon and mario kart? I can see now they aren't getting 3rd party. (they don't have battlefield 1, overwatch, cod, nba2k, madden, dark souls, etc.)
So unless they start getting 3rd party games that every other platform already has, then their multiplayer fee is retarded.
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>>379029185
He probably should have said Gravity Rush, that game was rather dicey of a concept as far as the whole package is concerned. They could have played it ultra safe and just made it some superhero thing a la Infamous.
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>>379029185
>only dev not afraid...
I didn't realize we weren't actually talking about devs.
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>>379029339
Gravity Rush wasn't a previously existing franchise reinvented
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>>379029350
It's pretty obvious that this was in reference to first parties
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>>379029339
Not for that statement.
GR2 didn't reinvent Gravity Rush.
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>>379012458
>>379012535
>>379012615

good b8. got me.
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>>379029424
Why does that matter?
Is it because Nintendo has fuck all but first parties?
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>>379029513
Because this is a thinly veiled consolewar thread
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Nintendo hasn't been the same company since the Wii. It changed them for the worse
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>>379029591
Consolewars can fuck off.
I don't care which platform I own, as long as I can do what I want with it.
>>
>meme tier console design
>expensive peripherals
>plain retarded decisions like needing a smartphone+headset+messy wires for online voicechat
>extremely hit or miss with their first party titles
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>>379012458
>free games every month with online

How are people this retarded. No company gives you free games. Not Sony, not Microsoft, not Nintendo. All of them include games in their monthly subscription fee that is required to use the internet subscription that you already pay for. Then they shove you into P2P non-dedicated games which is hilarious; please pay us so that you can host your own games.
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>>379013764
>Why don't you write Iwata a letter?

just like everyone in /v/ did?
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>>379015001
There is literally nothing similar between both games
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>>379015001
>a few additional parts
By that logic every game with punching is wii boxing
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>>379012458
>He listens to sonyfags
>Laughingdogs.jpg
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>>379012458
It's just vocal Sonyfan shitposters.

We've weathered worse.
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