Unpopular Vidya Opinions

>>378989279
I agree.

>>378989279
Brawl was a genuinely good game. I hate how so many Meleefags try to ruin it because muh competitive.
Best song.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVlE8u6Hhp8

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jet grind radio is way better than future

The balance was shit.

>>378990125
So was every other smash game

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>>378989460
Nice to hear someone agrees with this.

>>378989797
Competitive is the fucking cancer of gaming. It attracts worlds the most scumbag tryhards who act elitist because they play 'muh superior game'. So basically the Melee fanbase.

>>378989279
Get Project M. It has all that, but better

I think the majority of Melee fags agree. It's the tr4sh kids that want their game to seem like it isn't the worst in the franchise. Again. I'm a melee fag.

I prefer melee but I respect your opinion

My unpopular opinion,
FFX was the best final fantasy

>>378990318
There's literally nothing wrong with being elitist. Ever. They are the most knowledgeable and have the best taste. They're the winners in life. You sound beta.

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Alpha 2/3 > 3S

>>378990318
you're on /v/ complaining about elitism?
i think your just a wiener desu

>>378989279

SSE was shit and overall worse than Adventure mode which is a damn shame because adventure mode was only half done. Brawl also destroyed btt targets and had shitty minigames in general

The roster is almost objectively worse than 4

Most of the items are annoying as shit and they destroyed pokeballs. Smash ball is also terrible

Brawl introduced at least 5 of the worst stages in the series

Music was good

Playerbase has nothing to do with the actual game and they were just as autistic as the other smash games. 64 is the only game that can claim anything close to a decent fanbase

This isn't even mentioning the abysmal gameplay, physics, balance, and online. Brawl was shit in just about every way except massive amounts of content even if most of it was bullshit nobody asked for or was poorly done

>>378989279
>no mention of gameplay
>brawls stagelist is boring as fuck
>this began the item power creep that ruined items forever
>the smash ball was cancer for all styles of play, had to be hit multiple times for it to be used and it moved far away with every hit, basically randomized powerups
>took away specific test target stages
>shitty event mode

nah senpai

>>378989279
Project M is that but actually good
It's the perfect Smash

>>378990865
>Most of the items are annoying as shit and they destroyed pokeballs.
Get some fucking taste. Rolling crates are the greatest addition to the item selection yet. Footballs in Brawl are also amazing, shame they function so differently in Smash 4 (although they lead to a different kind of fun in Norfair)

64, Melee, and PM are fun party games you can also play at a high level competitively
Brawl and Smash are fun party games
Huh, wonder what wins

>>378991451
Brawl and Sm4sh can also be played at high level

>>378991451
>Smash 4 not played competitively.

>>378991312
Don't reply to tr4sh babies. They're just mad they had to pay for the same game twice on top of DLC that they're now trying to justify it as being better than Brawl. Despite everyone knowing Tr4sh is the worst smash iteration

>>378991554
Brawl: lmao no
Smash 4: It's boring. And Nintendo pays them to.

>>378991580
Mario Kart is played competitivly. What is your argment?

>>378991312

You named 2 items that weren't dumb as hell. Meanwhile

>smokeball
>lightning
>stopwatch
>spring
>suped up bumber
>curry

That's not even all of it. Brawl's items were utter garbage for the most part

>>378990558
>>378990776
Yeah, because elitism attracts fags like you. Thanks for proving my point.

>>378990245
Melee at a high level is much more balanced than Brawl.

My personal opinion is that Smash loses a lot of it's luster when a newer game comes out. I stopped playing Merle regularly when Brawl came out, stopped playing Brawl when 4 came out, and will probably do the same with Smash 5.

But I do think the hate towards Brawl is unjustified.

>>378989797
Brawl has the best soundtrack

>>378991691
You stated that Melee is played competitively and Smash 4 isn't which is wrong.

>>378991669
Are you new to Smash? Don't you know that Brawl had a competitive scene that was bigger than Melee for many years? It was only when Project M got big in 2014 that Brawl died.

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>>378991742
>lightning
>stopwatch
>spring
>bumber
Another good list of great items. You people just wouldn't know fun if it hit you on the head.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N15fVFAAcYA

>>378990865
>Tr4sh Roster is better
See that's where your wrong.

>No Snake
>A bazillion Sword and FE characters
>Abysmally cancer characters, like Villager and Cloud

>>378991789
Oh no you called me a name. Whatever will I do.

>>378991837
Mario Kart is played competitively. What is your argument? Not everyone is the same person you cuck.

>>378991831
ZeRo? And no. Melee, 64, and maybe PM if it doesn't get assfucked by lawyers will survive forever while every new game will be obsoleted by the next because Nintendobux, unless Sakurai makes another actually good game.

>>378991831
>But I do think the hate towards Brawl is unjustified.

Literal dissertations were written on why Brawl is not a good game. The hate has been justified too much. Does that mean it's a bad game for most people? No, it's actually pretty fucking great. But if you want to really get into it and play it for 100 hours +, you're better off playing Melee or Smash 4 even.

>>378991982
You keep mentioning Mario Kart. What exactly is your point?

>>378991908
>Brawl died
And why did it die, while Melee stayed alive? Because it's a shit game and people only played it because it was the hot new shit.

>>378992151
I asked you a question.

>SSB64 is the best game in the series
>Smash is and always will be strictly a party game, not a proper fightan' game by any means
>people who treat Smash as a fightan' game are possibly borderline retarded, because so much shit has to be banned to give the games any semblance of balance
>the competitive scene is cancer and only further perpetuates the e-celeb garbage that's already inundating gaming communities
>Brawl was half-way decent, but Smash 4 was the final nail in the coffin that made Smash yet another soulless, casualized Nintendo IP whose only purpose is to market Amiibos

Don't get me wrong, I do love Melee. I just prefer the retro aesthetic of the original Smash over having a larger roster and faster pacing.

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>>378991982
Project more.

>>378991981

Snake is literally the only missing character from brawl worth anything unless you just love the cancer climbers or wolf. Snake isn't worth more than mac, megaman, pacman, etc.

>>378992230
>tumblr gif

>>378992049
I don't know if PM will survive desu. It is still played, but Melee is similar with more money and is bigger, which tempts people into leaving, and it's even harder to play than Melee. I doubt it's geting a lot of new players, and many may end up leaving for Melee or Sm4sh

>>378991837
He's not me. SSB4 is played competitively, sure.But so was Brawl. Doesn't make it a good competitive game.

I hate how people suck Smash 4's dick just because it plays "slightly" better than Brawl.
The lack of good content just sucks.

>>378991451
More accurately:
64, Melee, and PM are fun party games
Brawl and Sm4sh are boring party games
Competitive doesn't even factor into it.

>>378989279
>great maze
I liked the great maze.

>>378989279
I fucking hate the subspace emissary. It took away the fun of unlocking characters.

>>378991908

Brawl actually starting dying in late 2011 when the MK bans starting to come up. It saw massive losses in entrants. The entire competitive smash scene in general looked like it was going to die

>>378989279
Dark Souls 3 is a decent game

ETA on when melee top 64 does start?

>>378992551
You can still unlock them without SSE anon.

>>378992557
Brawl remained bigger than Melee for years after that

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>>378991976
>the ultimate ssbb compilation
>it's all just ganondorf and falcon
Gross.

>>378991798
Not really. Fox trumps all in melee. There won't be another Hbox,there won't be another m2k,there won't be another hax, there won't be another wobbles, and there won't be another mango. No one is ever going to push their mains as far as they did and fox will dominate once they're gone.

>>378992707
I know which is what I did, but the fact that was still there was annoying. I wanted to play the big mode that they introduced, but didn't want the characters handed to me. It was a lose/lose situation.

>>378992871
Fox isn't gonna be overpowered until 20XX when you can tech skill rape perfectly
Until then just git gud

>>378992743

It stayed bigger for like another year or year and a half. While brawl was bleeding players due to TOs, the backroom, the game being shit in general, etc. a bunch of revival melee tournaments were popping up. The evo drive was when it just completely blew past brawl forever

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>>378992551
But you could still unlock characters the normal way. Plus part of the fun of Subspace Emissary was how the different characters showed up through out it.

>>378992871

That is still way better than brawl even if 20xx happens. MK took close to 50% of all the money in brawl. That is absurd for a competitive game. Even outrageously imbalanced games like mvc2 or third strike at least had a trio winning everything

>>378992869
You could try paying attention to what's happening instead of complaining about character usage
Smash with items leads to crazy shit

>>378990551
FFX isn't as bad as everyone said.

FF8 is my fav.

>>378992871
Metaknight raped everything in brawl, had like 50% of top cut all the time.

The melee Top 4 are all amazing (Marth and Sheik straight up rape Fox on certain stages, Falco has his own quirks) and then you've got Peach, Puff, Captain Falcon, Pikachu, Wobbles.char and Samus, who all do regularly top tournaments.

Fox is FAR from the sheer dominance that Metaknight had. He's the best, but not by such a huge margin.

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>>378992325
>Anon who only used le funne buzzwords

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if brawl is so good then why is it dead?

>>378993657
I'm not the one posting tumblr gifs here

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>>378989279
Bravely Default saved the classic rpg genre in the west

>>378992551
Subspace emissary was literally a chore to get through. Probably the worst, non-gameplay part of Brawl.

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>>378990551
Final Fantasy 8 was the best final fantasy
>The love triangle was more realistic because the dudes wanted to tear each other apart.
>Squall acted just like you would expect some oblivious emoshit. You aren't supposed to like the main character, you are suppose to like the cast and through character arc grow on Squal.
>The junction system is purposely broken to get rid of all the fucking grinding in other FF titles.
>The avatars look like humans and not midget pixel abortions
>The story is way more simplified than the cluster fuck of 7
>While Rinoa is not wifu bait, that wasn't why you liked her, her personality and flaws of having kinda a slutty past make her human. >Rinoa's like Aerith without all the maurder crap & annoying behavior.
>She also got upset like a human and wasn't manically moodswinging between mania and depression.
>Sophie and Quintis are the top tear jacking wifus.
>Everyone hates FF8 now because they can't admit they liked it then and FF7 wasn't as good as they remember since it was their first RPG and Nostalgia is too strong to shit on it.
>FF8 took the flaw of 7 and fixed all of them so people naturally call it a 7 rip off when it was in reality a sequal in an expanding franchise
>ff9 continued the growth in quality.
>People at the time hated FF9 for not being 7 or 8
>Now people suck FF9's dick

Stop taking your anger out on FF8. It's a good boy. It dindu nuffin. If FF7 didn't exist you would call it perfection. FF7 wasn't as good as you remember and you only kiss its ass because of nostalgia.

>>378993790
Yet it took 3 years for DQ7 to be localized

>>378993790
Then they burned it hard by releasing bravely second

>>378989797
Competitive in Brawl is actually fun as fuck.

>>378994098
How do you figure?

>>378993753
I bet you go there you fag

>>378994191
>metameta
>fun

Reminder why Project M is the best Smash
https://youtu.be/Qc1f7_MnuZU

>>378994191

said nobody ever

>>378994228
Shit soundtrack. Shit story. Just a cashgrab

>>378994248
I have nothing against people going there. I have something against you for posting tumblr gifs and writing incoherent shitposts bringing down the average quality of /v/.

>>378991789
>feeling better about because you have "better taste" in VIDEOGAMES because you have no notable achievements outside of gaming
I hope you're underage

>unpopular vidya opinions

oh so a shit taste thread. why didn't you say so

>>378994474
>Shit soundtrack. Shit story.
And? The game as a whole is a huge improvement over the first.

>>378994585
TFW Summa Cum Laude Valedictorian in Engineering. See you later, poorcuck.

>>378994474
It's not like you're doing the same thing bud.

>>378994795
besides, you can't say it's a shit story if Edea is there.

>also i love the battle theme and battle of oblivion.

>>378994795
>it's a huge improvement over the first
It's not. It's a shallow cashgrab.

>>378995018
>you're doing it too
I'm not the one posting tumblr gifs and strawmanning. Either way. If your argument hangs on the fact that other people are doing it to, you don't have an argument and you probably should've staid quiet.

>>378993973
beleive DQ7 would have never been localised if BD didn't sell well.

>>378995103
>oh noes someone actually likes the game i hate.

you are just asking for trouble claiming things that are just your opinion.

>btw nice b8

>>378995298
Whom are you quoting?

Brawl/PM did have the best roster
Smash 4 is fucking bloated, man. So much third party shit. And they took out Wolf.

>>378989797
The characters in Brawl literally feel like they're moving through molasses.

>>378995103
>It's a shallow cashgrab.
A cash grab that's better than the first game.

>>378996364
How?

>>378989279
I wouldn't say that is an unpopular opinion. Brawl is the best. The people who say melee are just nostalgia fags.

>>378996463
How isn't it?
>more content in general
>no repeats
>rebuilding isn't a chore

>>378997009
>more content
More how?
>no repeats
So does that mean less content?
>rebuilding isn't a chore
The entire game is a jrpg. If you don't like chores this isn't the franchise for you
>seriously implying waiting a few hours is a chore

>>378996987
It's pretty unpopular.
Along with the general speed being lower it introduced tripping. Also it had far too many clones.

>>378995550
Rosalina, Villager, Little Mac, Greninja, Robin, Palutena, and Duck Hunt were all good additions.

>>378993861
>Love Triangle was short-lived, it was very clear after disc 1 or 2 that Rinoa chose Squall. Seifer was just chasing after his dream more than anything.
>Squall wasn't emo, he just wanted to get shit done and get paid. His anger to Zell and Selphie makes sense because they're loud and impulsive, which are not traits you want when you are doing assassinations, Espionage, and other Dirty work. He's confident in his abilities, which is why he shrugs off so many people. Also, Quistis and Irvine basically get shoved under the rug after disc 1, and Zell and Selphie werent too important in the first place, it's hard to like most of the cast because they get little development. Laguna's party was so much better than the main cast
>Junction system being broken is not a good thing. This game already has scaling enemies to avoid needless grinding
>Agree, FF9's chibi models fit the setting, though
>Story is way more clusterfucky what are you smoking? FF7 was pretty straightforward once you realize JENOVA was Sephiroth for most of the game
>Needless point, Rinoa's Waifubait status does not take or give anything to this game's quality
>Aerith was a fun character before she goes muh ancients and dies
>Another needless point
>Yet another Needless point
>FF7 had good gameplay and earned its Plebeian's first FF title, even if the story was bad and the gameplay wasn't the best, it was a very solid FF
>What flaw? Materia? Limit Break?
>Needless point, FF9 has nothing to do with the quality of FF8
>Needless point
>Needless point, FF9 is constantly mid-tier here, only praised as great by Freyafags and Storyfags
If your game is so great, stop trying to downplay other games as nostalgia.

I'm a FF5fag for reference

>that feel when you are reminded almost weekly that smash bros will never again have momentum at all whatsoever

I just wanna run full sprint across a level, jump well ahead of time at someone recovering and knee them in the face.

Timing that is so satisfying, it'll never fucking happen again.

>>378997159
>too many clones
It has less clones than Melee

>>378997159
its unpopular with hardcore crowds but people generally love Brawl

>>378997120
>more how?

more jobs, mechanics and side missions

>less content?

ok, who THE FUCK likes the repetition part in BD for ''moar content parts '' that's a stupid argument

>le grinding is a good and normal thing

i have no words for this. the other just sayed to you that BS solved the grinding problem. And no, not all jrpg need to use chore-like mechanics to level up.

>>378989279
>>378989797
All of these good point would have been exactly the same even if brawl had the exact same gameplay has melee
You fag just have to admit it, they just slowed down the game as fuck (as even without any techskill people play faster on melee than on brawl) and added the worst and most ridiculous game feature ever : tripping
Admit it Sakurai fucked up bad. You are just salty because your little cousin fuck you up at melee and he is twelve

>>378997120
>More how?
Just about everything.
More Sidequests
More Jobs
Chompcraft
>So does that mean less content?
No it means it stays fresh rather than stagnating halfway and rehashing bosses like the first. As for the content see above.
>The entire game is a jrpg. If you don't like chores this isn't the franchise for you
Yes because having things on a 10 hour timer is a staple of JRPGs.
Once you've done everything else it's just becomes
>set to rebuild
>play a different game
>seriously implying waiting a few hours is a chore
A "few" is an understatement when it comes to bravely default.

>>378997843
>more jobs, mechanics and side missions
So more chores?

>who likes the repetition part
If it was faster paced. Sure why would I dislike it? The only bad part was the walking to the boss-battles after being maxed out. But you somehow dislike boss battles?

>BS solved the grinding problem
At a cost of having a shitty soundtrack and story. You can dislike grinding all you want. (BD didn't have grinding unless you suck yadayada) but I play JRPGs for the entire package.

>>378989279
Want a real unpopular opinion?

Smash Bros is boring as fuck. And it's fanbase is autistic to the extreme.

>>378998020
I never said timer-based mechanics were a staple. Just that leaving your 3ds on when you go to sleep isn't hard to do. Also it's you who wanted to play the game on easy mode by unlocking facilities early then complain about how grindy it is.

>>378992871
> Fox trumps all
> Best player hie's a peach
He only get out the fox agains't Hbox because of terrible MU (see chudat raping m2k with his puff lmao)
Sometimes agains't leffen because he is so damn good against peach
Alos I know it's been a while but PP had strong contender for falco or marth winning majors
The only guy winning consistantly with fox is mango and you can't tell me he win consistently
Admit it fox is the best handoff is a meme

>>378998138
This tbqh familia

>>378998070
1.- there are good chores and bad chores. grinding isn't of my taste, but the cextra content is appreciated and mostly OPTIONAL

2.- i just didn't like fighting the same boses over and over again (fuck you rusalka) but that's your opinion i guess.

3.-you dislike the battle theme, battle of providence, anne and oblivion? i call bait on that.

also how you dare to say that a game where Edea is included has a bad story?

>>378989279
The shantae series has always been mediocre and people only care about it because waifus

>>378998424
>there are good chores
Are there? Isn't a chore by definition a negative?

>i just didn't like fighting the same boses over and over again
They were all different though. They were only same in appearance.

>you dislike
Are the songs you listed arrangements of songs of the bravely default soundtrack? I prefer the live concert

>>378989279
>Slow as fuck
>Floaty as fuck
>"Gritty" and """realistic""" as fuck

You're a retard with a retard opinion
Brawl was alright but it wasn't a total upgrade.
It was the Dark Souls 2 of Smash Bros.

>>378998596
or the lack of metroidvanias for the matter

>>378998070
>So more chores?
Chores that have you actively playing the game. Jobs change the way you play and introduce new mechanics.
Sidequests offer bosses, challenges, etc.

>But you somehow dislike boss battles?
It's not the boss battles that are the problem, the problem is that once you reach the repeats the only new bosses from then on are Airy and Oroboros. I don't remember if you can fight Yulyana and Derosso prior to the loop anyway four new boss fights isn't a lot.

>At a cost of having a shitty soundtrack and story.
So?
This is a JRPG. Unless you're playing Persona 3 and onwards the story isn't too big a part of the game over the battle mechanics, dungeon crawling and so on. The music is superficial in all games.

>>378989279
Brawl has easily the best Opening of the series, hands down.

>>378989797
Great Taste Anon

>>378999305
>story doesn't count when it's bad
Lovely

>>378998070
i like BD better, but that doesn't mean i appreciate these themes:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tl0R7hMIGYo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I61JsRvMYv4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cmr_C6dQ3ws

>>378999305
but do you like the story and soundtrack? not the op you are talking to

>>378999498
sorry i meant by ''underappreciate''

>>378999410
It doesn't count when it's good either.
A story for the most part is meaningless in a video game unless the story is the biggest aspect like Persona.

You're not very good at this are you.

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>>378999740
>jrpg
>story isn't important muh purse owner

>>378999740
he seems to be a teen. trying to obviously bait if you ask me.

whatever i am having fun playing with his arguments

>>378998159
>I never said timer-based mechanics were a staple.
You might want to re-read your posts because that's exactly what you implied when you replied to rebuilding being a chore. Needless to say there's a difference between a chore that requires you to set down your system and actually playing the game and actively managing it.
Learn the difference next time.

>Also it's you who wanted to play the game on easy mode
Clearly ignoring this part of my post then.
>Once you've done everything else it's just becomes
>>set to rebuild
>>play a different game
It doesn't take a genius to realise what this means in regards to your "easy mode" comment.
Also, you forgot that the costumes were locked to the rebuilding too.

>>378999876
>>379000110
I'm the teen when you're recommending Persona? The tropy teenangst game? Give me a break.

>>378999867
it really depends of the game really.

although i like both games story wise (well to second until the 3/4 part, after making the ''you know who'' to rationalise. ) the game is focused in their mechanics, and in Edea and Yew character wise.

>>379000303
idk you are acting like one

>>378999867
>>jrpg
>>story isn't important
Yes anon. most JRPGs are management games first and stories last which is why most of them come with the all important "skip" option.

>>378999876
It's giving me something to do until DBS comes on so I don't mind.

>>379000414
i like argumenting about my favourite 3ds games so no hard feelings mate.

>>379000410
Ad hominem sure is an adult thing.

>>378990125
Thats what mods are for

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Quick, POST EDEAS!!!!

>>379000583
not if you are using 4chan... it always works for some reason here.

especially in /pol/

>>378998596
But Anon, everybody knows this. Even their fanbase

>>379000303
>I'm the teen when you're recommending Persona?
No one is recommending Persona though. It's just the easiest (and maybe only) example of a JRPG where the story takes precedent.

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>>379001116
So you're calling me a teen when you're the one that can name at most 2 video game franchises.

let's cool down the discussion shall we?

http://www.vgchartz.com/game/63395/bravely-default-flying-fairy/

the charts say that while BD got 1.3 million copies, BS got just .54 million (not counting digital sales) http://www.vgchartz.com/game/77557/bravely-second-end-layer/

which is normal for the sequel of a new IP. it is still a very profitable number of sales for a 3ds game tho.

>>379001547
also adding that BD got 1.3 m is incredible for a new IP franchise. it was truly a genre-saver.

>>379001198
Then why don't you prove your point and list more JRPGs where the story takes precedent?

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>>378989279
>Best roster
You can't be serious

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>gameplay
Melee > 64 > 4 > Brawl
>content
Brawl > Melee > 4 > 64
>soundtrack
Brawl > 4 > Melee > 64
>graphics
4 > 64 > Melee > Brawl
>conclusion
just play PM lol

>>379002159
>brawl
>content
kek

Shaq Fu is better faggot

>>379002260
SSE is great if you ignore the fact that Brawl has terrible slow-as-molasses gamplay. Try playing through it with a friend on PM, it's actually pretty fun.

>>378997159
>Also it had far too many clones
Are you kidding? Melee and 4 are both worse in that regard

>>379001796
You're just setting the conditions here. A logical fallacy that doesn't prove you're right regardless of my response to it. I'm tired of you children that can't even properly hold a conversation. I'm only going to claim what I've already said before. Nothing else.

>>379002119
brawl did have the better roster when talking about improvements. But enjoy your waifu pandering and fire emblem avatars.Ignoring the literal product placements you paid 7 bucks a pop for.

>>379002670
>You're just setting the conditions here.
Anon, you're arguing that the story is just as if not more important than the gameplay in a JRPG.
You have yet to prove that and are now trying to run from the question.

Now try again.

>>379002951
>you're arguing that
Read my argument again. Only use quotes of things I've actually said and respond to those quotes. It's that fucking simple to hold a conversation.

>>379002878
>brawl did have the better roster when we're not directly comparing them!
Damage control all you want. Remove all of the padding in Sm4sh's roster:

>Duck Hunt is a better classic rep than IC
>Mega Man, Pac-Man, Ryu, and Cloud are all individually better 3rd party choices than Snake
>Mewtwo alone (Greninja need not even apply) is better than Squirtle or Ivysaur

I'd rather nobody got cut, but be fucking real for a moment.

>>379003132
Huh? Brawl is the better game. I'm not sure why you're strawmanning things I've never claimed. Games are supposed to progress with each coming installment. Enjoy paying 100 bucks for your unfinished game.

>>379003064
>Read my argument again
That is all that remains of your argument.
We've discussed the part about the Bravely series and you've dropped that completely out of either acceptance or shame.
Now all you have is this implication >>378999867

Now are you going to list some series where the story is important or are you going to just stop posting?

>>379003268
You said Brawl had a better roster. It doesn't.

>>379003280
>this is all that remains
Actually quote me and you won't have the issue of reading what isn't being said. I've already humored you once. Why not use the quote function as it's intended?

>>379003323
Now you're just paraphrasing me.

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>>379003132
>tfw want to contest this but it's been so long since I played vanilla brawl I dont remember how any of these characters actually play

>>378990318
> It attracts worlds the most scumbag tryhards who act elitist because they play 'muh superior game'.
You mean the vocal minority that the vocal minority of casuals always get triggered by because you hate how other people play fucking video games?

>>379003386
>Now you're just paraphrasing me
No, you dumb nigger.

>>379002878
>brawl did have the better roster

damn I so fuckin thirsty for smash switch.
I need it to come out before I kill myself.

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>>378989279
I absolutely love this game, a challenging JRPG without quests, shitloads of dialogue, or npcs to bog it down (although I've enjoyed my share of those).
Unfortunately it has NO fanbase to speak of. Too old school, obtuse and challenging for normalfags/casuals so they dislike it, not detailed enough for the intended audience (SaGa fans) so they also dislike it.
I may be the only english fan of this that still cares about it in my whole country.

>>378989279
I sort of agree with you for different reasons. Brawl has worse core gameplay than melee or smash 4, but is the most well-constructed as a full product. If it weren't for the online i would have lost interest in smash 4 a long time ago now because there's just nothing to do, whereas brawl i was able to keep coming back to and having fun with without ever even touching what online capability there was.

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>>378989279
The only reason why Brawl is good is because you can use it to play PM which is basically the most balance and overall best Smash game in my opinion. Otherwise, I wouldn't have it around.

Though if you're not a tourneyfag like me I can imagine some people liking it over everything else because of all the shit you mentioned. If Brawl's gameplay was just better, doesn't even really need to be like Melee, it would probably be my favorite casual game in the series.

>>379003475
Do you not know what paraphrasing means you mongoloid?

>>379003386
>Actually quote me
That is your post anon.
As in a direct quote.

Are you going to prove your claims or not?

>>379004067
Do you have memory loss you sperg?

>>379003757
I wanted to like it but it was just so slow paced. I'll definetly pick it up again when emulators get viable though. I doubt it has no fanbase. But from its key-art and title/logo alone I can safely say it doesn't look the most memorable. I'm not saying that's wrong. But that's probably a reason why people don't pick it up.

>>379004101
You're using the respond function. Not the quote function.

>>379004178
Google paraphrasing.

>>379004304
>Google paraphrasing
I'm not going to fucking spoonfeed you, do it yourself.

>>379003906
As a Meleefag I can appreciate the sheer amount of content Brawl has though. Sm4sh, despite being two separate games, and having tons of DLC to boot still feels, somehow, less complete than Brawl was at the time. So why I would say that neither are good. I'd say Brawl is worth its money. I don't really play PM much anymore though. The scene stopped existing and Melee is still exciting to me.

>>379004504
You're the one paraphrasing me. Now you're just acting like a retard. Sorry I took you serious.

>>379004304
>You're using the respond function. Not the quote function.
I get that you're being obtuse on purpose but at least put some effort into your shitposting. Even ACfag at least tries to disguise his shitposting as an argument.

Also you have no clue what paraphrasing is especially since that anon is using your exact words.

>>379004225
It is indeed rather slow (most of this due to the ridiculously powerful enemies needing some skills mandatorily, like water shield). It has no english speaking fanbase. There was one fellow who made a 12 page wiki for it but the miniscule fanbase that didn't turn on it upon release is mostly Japanese.
Ironically enough, the art was the only thing casual players did praise. Many reviews praised it for apparently looking like "Bravely Default" but bashed it for not including the same features and being considerably less plot oriented than BD. The cover was less of an issue rather than it came out at the same time as Stella Glow and many other popular 3ds games.

>>379004725
>shitposting
Sign of you having lost the argument right there

>>379004807
>citing reviewers
Not the most honorable thing to do. But I do remember a few 500+ threads on the game back when it was out. So it must've been fairly popular around /v/ at least.

>>379004897
It's clear that you were shitposting from the start. With that said I can't counter an argument that doesn't exist and until you prove your claims the only person who "lost" here is you.

>>379004606
Whether I'm paraphrasing or quoting you, it makes no difference. You made a really shitty assertion.

The difference between
>Brawl has a better roster
and
>brawl did have the better roster
is non-existent, and you're being intentionally fucking dense if you think that makes any difference.

Or, what, are you triggered that I'm not giving your "...when we're talking about improvements" excuse the time of day? Because that also makes no fucking difference. Brawl improved on Melee's roster more than 4 improved on Brawl's roster, I can see that. But..............4 still has a better roster! That's literally the entire point of contention here that I've been discussing in this thread. I've mentioned literally nothing else. OP said Brawl has the best roster. He's wrong (or, if you're OP, you're wrong).

Now fuck off.

>>379005003
Correction, user reviewers. Reviews are useless garbage 100% of the time with niche titles anyway but I was just saying that the cover art was praised by casuals and bland tasted reviewers. I remember one 300 post thread mostly filled with questions, but it didn't even last two days before discussion was deader than someone using a party without counter skills.

>>379005138
>but you were shitposting
Repeating what you said? Two can play that game.

>>379005228
>paraphrasing is okay
fuck off. Seriously

Dark Souls is boring. I don't mean frustrating, though it does at times, but the slow 1v1 block/dodge focus gameplay just doesn't do a thing for me.

>>379005358
>p-p-p-paraphrasing!
Didn't make your argument any shittier than it already was.

>>379005365
This is a pretty popular opinion

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>mfw comparing Smash 4's stage builder to Brawl's

What the fuck were they thinking? Seriously.

>awful "draw with the touchpad" gimmick instead of the simple lego-esque grid
>no moving parts
>only one hazard (lava)
>only two interactive parts (springs and cannons)
>stage "weight" fills up faster
>no regularly featured custom stages in online multiplayer

>>379005425
Oh no. You made it sound like I was uncertain by pretending I was stuttering. I'm sure that's not an argument and a logical fallacy to boot. However will I redeem myself when my pride wasn't tarnished. Come up with an argument already. It's getting stale

>>379005453
Oh wait, I forgot that you can build one type of moving platform in Smash 4's stage builder but my point still stands.

>>379005358
>Repeating what you said? Two can play that game.
You still have yet to produce an argument.
Also you're paraphrasing me if ever so slightly.

>>378997179
Pac-Man and Mega Man were good additions too.

>>379005532
Oh, you're just shitposting now. My b.

>>379005608
>Whether
>it makes no difference
I don't see how I was misrepresenting your side of the argument


>>379005672
>shitposting
Sign of you having lost the argument right there

>>379005441
Really? Considering how /v/ praises the whole franchise as the second coming of Jesus, that's a surprise.

>>379005003
A great deal of those threads were SaGa fans complaining about it not being SaGa and people trying to figure out what to do after getting the Shadow Stone.

>>379005765
>I don't see how I was misrepresenting your side of the argument
Question, what do you think paraphrasing actually means?

And you still need to prove your point.

>>378989797
I think its easy to say brawl had the best soundtrack with sm4sh including a lot of it's remixes. All the kirby tracks were metal as fuck
You cannot refute these are the best smash tracks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLJuT8zPmvA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3rnyqI7dFc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hbHrdNI7yiY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TN36CetQw6I
Also best of all time-https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9bu0Ge25js

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>>378989279

Kerfuffle(4) is brawl but without all the shitty parts of it.

Best artstyle, best roster, best soundtrack, much much much better gameplay. Only thing brawl has is a fucking singleplayer mode. The only good stages it added were shadow moses and metaknight's ship.

>>379006703
>Only thing brawl has is a fucking singleplayer mode.
You mean adventure mode.

>>379007009

Does it really matter what it's called as long as you understand my point?

>>379007121
Well yeah because 4 has more single player content.

>>378989279
>casual elitists
good snoorkel. its the best casual game, ill give it that. but you cant deny that melee has the best core gameplay. you dont have to play competitively, but other autists will make the ruleset they wantt

>>378990774
theyre different fucking games. its like comparing sc to tekken

>>378989279
I just really dislike random trip

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>>379003906
Brawl minus > PM, now and forever