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Does any FPS game match up to the difficulty and complexity of

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Does any FPS game match up to the difficulty and complexity of the Misery mod for S.T.A.L.K.E.R.?

It makes the Dark Souls of FPS (normal S.T.A.L.K.E.R.) into the Dwarf Fortress of FPS.
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>>378966265
Also...

2.2 when?
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>>378966265
>It makes the Dark Souls of FPS (normal S.T.A.L.K.E.R.) into the Dwarf Fortress of FPS.
lol, it's EVE Online of FPS, devs said themselves.
It's a mess made just to be bullshit hard and grind a lot, before "playing for real". Devs themselves said that for first 10 or so hours you shouldn't do anything other than scavenging bodies.
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>>378967320
Well, is there anything else like it, but better?

Seems pretty unique to me.
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>inb4 a bunch of casual babies shit on Misery because it was mean to them
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>>378967531
Because enemies spawning right next to you out of thin air is completely fair.
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>>378967776
Doesn't happen often enough to matter.
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>>378967437
>Seems pretty unique to me.
It's not unique, quarter munchers followed the same formula for years.
Enemies are abnormally proficient with weapons that technically should not be any better in their hands than yours, even with perfect aim.
Everything is lethal, like the regular game on the highest difficulties, but unlike the regular game, enemies are also bullet spongy.
Spacial threats are placed in areas to directly impede you, even indoors.
Enemy numbers skyrocket, which actually works against the pacing in some areas where measured threats allow adrenaline to rise and dip.
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>>378966265

>the Dark Souls of FPS (normal S.T.A.L.K.E.R.)

I have cancer now, thanks.
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>>378966265
>the Dark Souls of FPS (normal S.T.A.L.K.E.R.)
wow I never played Dark Souls is it really this bad
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Misery is shit, the devs are absolutely retarded
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>>378966265
isn't Misery abandoned?
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>falling for the Stalker meme
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Misery is one of those hard for the sake of hard mods. Theres way better ones out there for CoP.
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>playing call of pripyat

it's shit compared to SoC
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>>378966265
>the Dark Souls of FPS
fuck off reddit
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>>378968667
>tfw your suit and mask aren't good enough and a trip into an anomalous zone cracks your mask and you have to rush back to base and buy a new one.
Misery pushes STALKER into sim territory. It's not hard just to be hard, it's just brutally unforgivingly real.
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>Misery
>good

Just fucking stop. Any of the patchwork versions of SGM from russhits high on krokodil are better than Misery.
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>Dark Souls of FPS
Stop trying to ruin STALKER with your shitty meme thread you piece of shit.
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>>378969313
>bullet sponge enemies
>sim

Nah.
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Misery is dogshit. AMK is the ultimate STALKER experience.
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>>378969313
Yeah exaclty, it's filled with all kinds of bloat. I'm sure some find it enjoyable but i just find it tedious and more like a chore.
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>>378969313

>Shoot a random dude in the chest 20 times
>He doesn't die

This is truly the most accurate mil sim I've ever played.
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>>378966265
Wow I sure do love .ini edits that tout them selves as huge overhauls mods
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I really don't get the meme that Misery is hard. Enemies die in 1-2 hits and it's very easy to kill everyone before they get a chance to shoot you. The only hard part about is the frame drops and stutter, it runs like shit on my 970/4690k
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>>378970456
He was wearing armor and I bet you weren't shooting anti-personnel or armor-piercing rounds.

>>378970479
>implying
This shit adds entire mechanics. Misery is unarguably an overhaul.
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>>378972535
>I bet you weren't shooting anti-personnel
what kind of bullets would he shoot then? rubber ones? blanks? anti-tank?
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>>378966265
Still believe the "difficulty" of the Stalker games and misery is the randomness of loading saves. You'll die in some new way each time.
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>>378972638
Basic ones.

Stalker has always had a fair amount of emphasis put on differing ammo types and Misery only emphasizes it. There's armor defeating rounds, hollow points that are great for unarmored/mutant targets and even a few more esoteric types for certain guns if I recall correctly.
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>>378972535

>Shooting a man with the VSS
>He thinks I'm retarded enough to use non AP ammo
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>>378972868
Crazier things have happened anon. I agree nobody should be tanking 20 rounds from a VSS.

Luckily, such a thing never happened to me. Did you perhaps use a gun your class wasn't trained for? That might do the trick. Gotta play Recon or Sniper if you want to VSS.
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>>378970443
I love all the "bloat". It's immersive as fuck.
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>>378972993
>if you aren't trained with a gun your bullets suddenly do less damage

What kind of bullshit is this?
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>>378966265
Yes fallout 4 survival difficulty
with
>modern firearms mod
>no crosshair mod
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>>378973874
I don't know if that's a mechanic specifically, but there are a few things in the game designed to make you play the style of the class you chose.
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>>378973874
it's misery, don't bother with it, the guy in charge of making the gameplay wanted to make a E.V.E simulator, somebody should have the pic of him litteraly saying that on some forums
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>>378969573
I suppose you could just do a quick edit in the files to make the enemies weaker
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>>378974630
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>>378974630
>>378974728
>StG
>Nugget
but why
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>>378974872
Why not? Mind explaining?
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>>378974872
Weapons part is retarded. Better use some addon or something.
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>>378969313
>bullet sponges
>bad enemy spawning
>unbalanced numbers of enemies don't build tension
Nope just shit
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ARMA and the original Operation Flashpoint.
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>>378975176
>bullet sponges
Git gud or stop lying. Game's fine for this. If somebody tanked bullets, he was armored.
>bad enemy spawning
STALKER in general has this problem amigo.
>unbalanced numbers of enemies don't build tension
This is basically a non-complaint and completely subjective.
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>>378975328
>This is basically a non-complaint and completely subjective.
Anon, if you don't understand what pacing is and how it is needed to shape an experience, you should just shut up.
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>>378974872
Ukrainian military might not be the best supplied one, but not to the point of using WW2 weapons. I mean, I can understand Mosin, but where'd you get 8mm Kurtz?
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>>378966265
maybe if you didn't shitpost about it
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>>378975471
>8mm Kurtz
Not in the Misery, anon.
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>>378975457
It's an open world game that's been modded for a an immersive simulation experience.

Pacing doesn't mean shit in this context.

>>378975471
Misery's version of the zone is a bit of a gun collector's paradise with the excuse that the guns are cheap rusty garbage most of the time.

It's possible your gear was obtained through a deal with a trader within the zone, so you might not even be dealing with government issue material.
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>>378975569
What's the StG chambered for? 7.62x39?
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>>378967878
This. Misery is literally an exercise in masochism. It doesn't add "difficulty" in a way that allows one to raise their skill, it adds artificial difficulty by increasing variables that just make shit take longer, in stead of forcing the player to grow and evolve.
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>>378975694
>What's the StG chambered for?
Iirc it was 7mm mauser.
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>>378970184
This. AMK 1.4 WITHOUT arsenal is the best STALKER mod ever.
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>>378966265
>playing stalker when fallout 4 exists
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>>378975328
>wearing armor means you can take over a dozen bullets to the chest

LOL
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>>378976146
>implying

You can have artifacts with bullet protection as well as multiple different armor plates that fit into pouches on your gear.

Each plate could easily absorb a shot or two before becoming compromised and that's in addition to a full combat helmet and probably some kevlar in the main vest.

Bring me video proof of a bandit in track pants tanking "20 rounds" as people have it put.
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>>378976323
You're the first person to bring up bandits. Not even going to bother with a fag that moves goalposts.
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>Misery
>difficult at the beginning and piss easy in the end
>everything has rust, even wood and plastics
>eat every two minutes or you can't move your ass
>enemies are bullet sponges, have infinite ammo and still drop only one or two bullets
>broken economy
>good
Misery is easily the worst CoP mod, even worse than SGM.
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>>378976509
Well, they're the only ones who can't possible tank a lot of damage.

The rest of them could be geared up enough to survive a few shots, especially if you're using shitty ammo. Try going for headshots with armor piercing ammo. You'll get realistic 1 shot 1 kill behavior.

>>378976528
Honest question. Have you played 2.0? Because I feel like you're talking about the state of the Alpha.
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>mod makes game more "realistic" and "survivaly"
>find jellyfish or wrenched artifact
>find soul or kolobok artifact
>congratulations, bandages and antirads are obsolete now
Miseryfags are cancer.
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>>378976691
Yes and I played through the mod twice. The balance is absolute garbage.
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>>378976928
Fair enough. You're entitled to your shitty opinions.
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>>378976986
I bet you played SoC with Complete too, if you played SoC at all.
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>>378977068
Nah.

> if you played SoC at all.
I played it before it was cool and found out about it on my own, without any sort of recommendation.
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