>Game is about angels and demons >Go to Hell to fight Satan

Asuka a best

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Satan did nothing wrong.

>Play bayonetta 2
>kick the shit out of EVERYONE's ass

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>>378938593
>You fight God to end a cycle, only to continue it

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>go to hell to fight satan
>he's got his dick out

>>378938593
I need exp from Mid Boss before i take on Final Boss.

>>378938706
If they make a 3, then we're going to be killing Hell's Ruler, or "God". I hope her colour scheme will be Green.

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>>378938593
>Tfw you can't even argue because Satan is right

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>game is about angels and demons
>Stephen Hawking canonically has a higher power level than YHVH

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>>378938593
whoa...

>>378938915
>>game is about angels and demons
>>Stephen Hawking canonically has a higher power level than YHVH
wasn't he just out of that system entirely

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>There's no games to side with Satan to kill God

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>>378938593
> be anime character
> be best girl
> ...

>western game
>church is your friend, gives you buffs and stuff
>last boss is satan, again

>japanese game
>church is evil
>last boss is god, again

who was in the wrong here

>>378939223
Catholics.

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>Game is about Angels and Demons
>Angels are the biggest assholes to humans and believe they're inferior, while only doing their job because the orders from God
>Demons are bros and just misunderstood

>>378938593
>Devil was God all along!
Is there more eye-rolling moment than this Japanese favorite?

>>378939289
But it's the truth.

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>>378938838

A small fire being contained may seem harmless.

>>378939223
It's not always the case

>>378938593
Have you ever read a bible? god was fucking evil and cast out Lucifer for childish fucking reasons.

>>378939354
I don't argue that it's one of the worst offenders here. I'm asking whether there are moments more cringy that that or not.

>>378939439
How comes evil god has good son? Shouldn't Jesus usurp God's throne or something?

>>378939089
Except that's wrong you retard, some SMT routes do that.

>>378939508
Jesus was raised by humans, so he was good.

>>378939289
>He thinks his God is loving and cares about him

God is just a great big celebrity, while you're a fan among billions, your life means nothing to him

Do you know how heaven could be? Just rich or famous assholes that God liked to view, even if they sinned worse than Hitler, he would allow them into Heaven, while you praised him over and over to be sent to Hell for something tiny.

Just think about that

>>378939549
Hell, YHVH is the final boss for both routes in IV Apocalypse.

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>Have a PC
>Want to play SMT games

Sigh, is there ANY SMT games for PC? Can I emulate? What games do you guys recommend? I'm really into the demon/angel stuff

>>378939601
Jesus is God. He is also the Son and Holy Spirit.

>>378939439
You haven't read the Bible.

>>378939871
>god made a bet with the devil to see if man would still praise him even if his life went to shit
>god absolutely destroyed this mans life
>still praised god, probably out of fear more than anything
>god took that one as a win

Nah god was evil.

>>378939871
You certainly haven't

>>378939832
You can emulate just about everything. 1 and II both have translated ROMs for SNES. 3 is easily emulated as a PS2 game, end even IV and IV Apocalypse can be emulated in Citra, the 3DS emulator.

They're all great, albeit 1 and II are very dated for what it's worth.

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>>378939832
I've emulated Megami Tensei 1 and 2, Shin Megami Tensei 1 and 2, and Persona 1 and 2. If I had a PS2 emulator, I could emulate Nocturne, Digital Devil Saga 1 and 2, Persona 3 and 4, and Raidou 1 and 2. You can most certainly emulate SMT to your hearts content.

I recommend Megami Tensei 2 and Shin Megami Tensei 2.

>>378939089
Persona 5 (not actual satan or god though)

>>378939947

>lifetime of suffering
>mattering, at all, when compared to eternity
congratulations you missed the point of Job

>Tales of Zestiria is about you being what is basically the reincarnation of Jesus in a world where people are no longer religious
>Tales of Berseria is about you and your group of demons killing the original Jesus cause he's a dick

>>378939639
[Citation needed]

>>378939832
>is there ANY SMT games for PC? Can I emulate?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Megami_Tensei_video_games

There are some SMT on PC, but all the good ones you can emulate just as easily for psp, ps2, snes, DS, etc. SMT Nocturne for PS2 is probably a good start since it's really good and has a simple story. Lately /v/ has been jerking off to SMT Strange Journey for DS, easy to emulate. I'd recommend Persona 5 because it is the most stylish and polished of them all.

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>>378939089
How about a game where you're chosen by Lucifer, turned into a demon, team up with other demons and go punch god in the face?

>>378940270
I miss that Lucifer. His design and theme song were so damned good.

>>378940157
And if he did break? If he stopped praising god?
His entire life would be shit, AND he'd spend an entirety in hell.
The judeo-christian god is a fucking psychopath. I'd sooner take my chances with worshipping Odin.

>>378940270
You never actually punch god in the face though in Nocturne.

>>378939549
SMT II Law and both Apocalypse routes

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>>378940332
I liked Louis Cypher. He was very dapper.
>>378940420
You punched Kagutsuchi, which is like mooning YHVH through a web cam.

>>378940495
Kagutsuchi was just an entity to rebuild the world periodically so YHVH didn't have to get up. It's like breaking god's hammer or something. He probably didn't give a shit.

>>378938743
>you break the cycle
>turns out you breaking the cycle and somebody else starting up the cycle again is all part of a BIGGER cycle
aaaaaaaaaand that's when I stopped watching Dark Souls fan theory videos

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>>378938593
>Fighting against God
>Summon Satan to shoot God right in the fucking face

>>378940964
>Yaldy
>god
stebbit up

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>>378939007
when the cripple gets up

>>378939439
Are you for real?

>>378940157
And what happened to innocent people God killed while testing Job? His family? The didn't go to heaven just because they were collaterals in the divine game of stupidity. Fuck YHWH.

>>378939956
>end even IV and IV Apocalypse can be emulated in Citra, the 3DS emulator.
No and 3 works pretty shitty just like about any 3d game on ps2 emulator.

>>378941685
>And what happened to innocent people God killed while testing Job? His family?
This part always gets me when that story gets mentioned. Few people even seem to give a shit about his family. They got totally fucked over by this deity all for testing Job, and they're basically just footnotes. Fuck you, Yahweh.

>>378939289
It's true though, do you even gnosticism

>>378939832
All these games can be emulated easily, furthermore, when people say "I'm replaying SMT", MOST of the time those guys are emulating.

Everyone is fucking emulating.

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>>378941817
It's a difference between old and new values.

Back then life was seen as cheap in addition to the patriarch of the family being the only person that actually fucking mattered.

The New Testament is very different for a reason; society had changed by then.

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>>378942456
Her death was necessary for her glorious rebirth

>>378939956
>1 and II

[autistic screeching intensifies]

>>378938593
>trusting satan
Wew lads

>>378942890
Better than trusting a god who doesn't exist.

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>>378942934
>Satan exists
>at the same time God doesn't

>>378942980
the existence of god is a ruse to discredit satan

>>378942980
I suppose if he means the natural inclinations of mankind that have a negative effect on other people and yourself, then yeah, Satan exists and God doesn't.

>>378938593
>Asuka > Rei
>Rin > Saber
>Triss > Yen
Why is Red-chan always superior to White-chan?

>>378943270
Humans can have good inclination too though, thankfully

>>378943270
Satan can not exist without god

>>378943453
Does god exist in Bahamut? Satan did but nobody says anything about god.

>>378943453
Not nevcessarily with what I was refferring to. Satan literally means adversary, but he's not an adversary to God, he's an adversary to man. He is only an adversary to God if God loves his creations (and he does). We're pretty much on this Earth to be subject to chaos and overcome it (natural disasters, diseases, etc.), Satan is here as an agent of chaos to stir the pot, turning mankind against itself. It's just like the Divine Powers in Apocalypse said, Lucifer is a scapegoat, here as part of God's plan to be humanity's adversary.

Satan may want to be God's adversary, but he's so petty that he can't just not do "his job", and has convinced himself that if he keeps doing it he'll win someday. Because the alternative is also a win for God, what with all those souls actually making it to heaven, I mean come on.

Anyways, take any literal beings out of the equation, and we're left with people doing bad things and people doing nice things. God doesn't actually represent the nice things people do, while Satan has always represented our adversarial relationships with ourselves and others.

tl;dr: If you don't believe they literally exist, Satan has more symbolic precedence than God.

>>378938593
>"Why would you harm me, when it is God that caused your suffering?"

Oh don't you worry Satan, that asshole's next. Still, I gotta kill you first, need that loot you're hoarding.

>>378943378
all redheads have the personality of trannies though

>>378938593
>Falling for Satan's stupid tricks

There is not a single good videogame that has you fight God, angels or Satan, or has you go to heaven or hell

Fucking bottom of the barrel trashy RPGs with little to no gameplay are the only games that do this. sMT as a series is awful

>Game is about angels and demons
>Go up to Satan and slay him 10 times over
>Restore faith across all the world and mankind alike

Is there a better game premise than this?

>>378945972
>dante's inferno
>bad

>tfw no game where humanity teams up to btfo both the holy side and the evil side and become the kingdom of men

>>378945394
Satan is an adversary to God but cannot achieve direct fruition of his plot so he turns to misleading God's creations as the next best thing. Turning mankind against itself so much as to make them doubt their faith in God is victory enough.

>God doesn't actually represent the nice things people do, while Satan has always represented our adversarial relationships with ourselves and others.

I'd argue the exact opposite of this. People can easily be shitty to one another without having to rope in an existential basis for it, whereas the really good things that people do are prone to leaving one so dumbfounded that it's easier to believe some otherworldly essence took hold and created a better outcome.

Game about angels and arch angels. You are told by god to go after the deadly sins wich are angels turned bad. You absorb their power when slaying them. You are the arch angel Lucifer. After having killed all deadly sins you have become crazy with power. You decide to challenge god. He's the endboss and after playing a while you notice that you barely can damage him and he heals himself. You realize that 1 hit from him takes 2/3 of your life. You lose the fight and he throws you to the depths and so you become the fallen angel.

>>378946275
That's the Diablo storyline.

>>378945972
You forgot bayonetta.

>>378941709
I've just finished Nocturne on the emulator and it never dropped below 60, even though I have a potato-tier PC,
Try not playing on a microwave next time.

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You know it wasn't amazing but El Shaddai was a good game.

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What did she mean by this?

>die
>the grim reaper comes to take you
>fight death and decapitate him with his own scythe
>now I get to exact revenge in the afterlife
>this is what Christians actually believe

>>378943378
>Rin > Saber
Incorrect.

>>378938831

>Implying Rodin doesn't rule Inferno

besides, God/Jubileus was done in Bayo 1

>>378947206
>They had to cut out the story of Rodin regaining his angelic power and had to shove the fight into the game as a special boss.

Sad.

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>>378947106
s-sauce?

>>378938638
This.

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>>378947476
kohakutei

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What did she mean by this?

>>378947876
gross

>>378938638
FPBP

The whole mankind killing God or God is evil because bad things happen to people or Satan is really misunderstood is getting old.

You can't blame your suffering on the maleveloence of Hod because an omnipotent being most likely doesn't have the same man made morals as you or even cares about them or even you for that matter.

Next, how can you kill that which is omnipotent? They can't be God then otherwise

And I won't Satan is evil because Satan isn't. Satan has a job and Satan does it because that's required of them. Satan isn't twiddling his thumbs and trying to find ways to get you to do bad things

The whole RELIGION IS BAD is tired

>>378938593
>Nice Try Satan but your lies won't stop me

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>>378943378
>Rin > Saber

>>378939354
No it isnt, atheist edgelords.

>>378949484
>you can't kill a god
Sorry Catholic fags but there's too many multi god religions before you that have divine dudes get recked by not as divine dudes. So naturally fiction accepts beating gods in general.

>>378949484
Usually the RELIGION IS BAD comes more from the people part of said religion and it's basically a huge corrupt political party, or simply a bunch of lunatics.

>>378939947
Old testament God is a massive prick. Especially in the parts before the Devil became a thing.

Good goyim.

>>378938593
>"RPG"
>forced to side with god

>fantasy game
>"go to hell"
>"oh my God!"
>"nice thinking einstein."

>>378938638
fpbp

>>378938593
Reading Unsong now and it's fucking amazing. Are there any similar video games?

>>378950185
The gods you're thinking of are never described as omnipotent but simply immortal beings of great power. In Greek mythology, Chaos was greater than all of the Gods, in Hindu, Vishnu is literally part of a trinity that represents alpha and omega. Norse, the Gods are merely men who obtained great wisdom from Yggdrasil, not omnipotent beings.

>>378950605
>creations are told to not do something or they'll get punished.

>creations do the thing they aren't supposed to do

>get punished

>God is such a dick!

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>>378951509
>God gives creations a free will

>"Don't use it tho, here's a rulebook, also check for updates."

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>There is no God, just demons and Hell

>>378942312
source?

>>378941817
>Fuck you, Yahweh

Oh shit son, how fast we tippin'?

>>378938593
>mfw I've been reading paradise lost and I agree with Satan's arguments

>>378953307
Disliking a fictional evil overlord is fedora-tier now?

>>378939089
>i didn't play smt games

>>378946374
>easier

Such is Satan's influence. Satan isn't even one person, Satan refers to the collective host of heaven lead astray, which is 1/3 of all spirits. There is more of Satan, more devils, than there ever will be living humans.

>leading one soul astray is enough

True, but such is the risk God takes when he allows Satan to meddle.

>>378954141
>fictional evil overlord

Damn son, better make sure mom doesn't see that one, or else she'll take tendie privileges.

>>378950059
Lucifer was literally cast out of Heaven, his war with Heaven is God's plan.

>>378954430
If yhwh isn't fictional then neither are Ra, Zeus, Odin, Ahura Mazda or Amaterasu.

>>378939089
Why not play BoI and kick both their asses?

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>>378954684
It's all meme magic, smt seems to imply that's how it works too, what with every. last. one. Of the demons being a manifestation of a fictional character.

>>378954568
>plan.
*game

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>>378955151
This includes YHWH and the angels, all manifestations of interpretations of fictional characters. Closer to tulpas than anything really, who's to say tulpas aren't real. Maybe Gods and gods and demons are real, but only because tulpas are real.

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>>378955151
>>378955446
I'm wondering, what's the non-meme story of kek?

>>378939508

Jesus is like a part of God that he split off from himself so he could go down and experience being human. He wanted to find out what the fuck was so hard about staying away from sin your entire life, and it turned out to actually be pretty hard.

>>378938593
>Game is about angels and demons
>Angels are the good guys and demons are the bad guys
>.......

>>378954430
Calm down son, I'm already going to hell, no need roasting me further.

>>378955749
Kek is an egyptian frog headed god of chaos. He is frequently mistakenly attributed to the heiroglyphs for "Heqet" a different egyptian god which resemble a man sitting at a computer.

>>378956238
Where can I find a full story of him?

>>378939089
Bayonetta 1 you summon hell's ruller to kill god

>>378956345
that's about all there is to it.

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>>378938638
>when the first post is also the best post

>>378951407
>The gods you're thinking of are never described as omnipotent
Just like the one you kill in videogames

What about a game where you are Satan and you're just trying to do your 9 to 5 managing hell.

You need to compete with the others Hell managers like Hades and Osiris/Anubis to raise the productivity of your Inferno but if you go to far, some mythological figure is going to come down and wreck havoc to save his loved ones setting you back in weeks

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I wish more games did massive multi-pantheon free for alls.

>>378943270
>Satan exists in a metaphorical and metaphysical sense because I want him to exist so I can be edgy
>However, I won't accept that God can exist in the same type of metaphorical and metaphysical context because that isn't edgy
I hope you're shitposting and not genuinely constructing a worldview out of a dichotomy that ridiculous.

It's like you came 50% of the way towards understanding spirituality but you stopped halfway in order to take a shit and never found your way back to the path.

>>378957123
Is that supposed to be Zeus vs Thor? Well the "brother" throws me off.

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>>378947710
I really dislike when artists change the characters themselves and even change their backstory so they can justify having a popular girl in their terrible story.

Often, Anno's themes of anti-state capitalism are completely absent from these comics.

>>378957821

Zeus squashes Loki in the first panel, so Thor gets more pissed than usual. Up until that point the Norse gods had killed almost every other pantheon including the Olympians, then Zeus steps up and solos them.

It's called God is Dead, and it's fucking insane.

>>378958016
you should be able to understand liking characters but not caring ti represent the tone or whatever of the source material.

You know very well Anno will never overcome this no matter what.

>>378939089
>People have been shitting up the board with SMT for months
>He forgets about SMT

>>378952451
You have free will so that you can accept responsibility for your actions and the repercussions they bring. Or do you prefer life as a mindless puppet?

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>>378958209
The problem is that with EVA in particular, people like the characters BECAUSE of the tone and source material.

Plus it's disrespectful to the original artist to take characters and settings while disregarding their attempts to persuade their audience towards pro-social good.

>>378938593
if satan didnt exist, humans would still be living in paradise, my dudes.
>>378939089
persona/smt

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>>378955749
>>378956238
>>378956345
>>378956467
There's a little more to it, Kek was a member of the Ogdoad, a group of four male frog headed gods and four female snake headed gods. These Gods were involved in transitioning the world from it's primordial state, but their story has been retconned so much and it's so old that no one remembers it, there's just hieroglyphics and records that prove these deities were worshipped. Tje most notable retcons are Amun becoming more important, and Thoth getting shoehorned in until they were all eight baboons that helped him raise the sun.

It's actually kind of meta that Kek rose to prominence the way he did, he's a god of both darkness and the obscure. His own myth is about as obscure as egyptian mythology gets.

>>378958403
I don't see why not. God could just make me enjoy it, right?

>>378957749
A bit of both, but only because I was playing devil's advocate.

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>>378958856
>Thoth
Isn't that the guy who told Extra Credits about the Martian stoics who sank Atlantis?

>>378958161
>including the olympians
What happened to my niggas Poseidon and Hades?

>>378938593
What game is OP referring to?

>>378958967
not without also giving you non-enjoyment so you can something to compare it to. experiencing only one emotion is the same as experiencing no emotion, in the same way that a white sheet of paper is a blank sheet of paper

>>378959172

Well, that sounded more impressive than it actually was, because in the first big god war there were just three gods in each pantheon. Other gods show up later, and dead gods find every reason imaginable to come back to life and keep the wild ride going. But to answer your question

Poseidon is an awesome dude who kills a titan
Hades is totally pathetic and gets turned into a cuckold by Satan

>>378959176
Shawn Megaman Tinsel

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>JRPG
>The church is good (if insanely powerful)

>>378959676
To be fair, you only think you need that bipolarity to understand the difference between happiness and everything else. God and the 'lawful' approach mean to maximize utility and eternal peace, no matter the cost. Different emotional states can only be considered extra, needless baggage in the pursuit of peace.

In order to fully reject God, you also have to deny peace and paradise. Which is fine, but don't expect others to agree.

>>378959725
this is unacceptable Hades is cooler than Satan I demand a recount.

>>378947876
Really makes you stink

God is a self aware interstellar weapon system developed by future space humans powered by nanomachines and the soul of a trapped higher dimensional ayylamo that recreated the human race to farm bioparts to repair and rebuild itself.

Is there a game where we can play as Lucifer?

>>378958801
>Its disrespectful to the original artist

Is hentai! Its that no matter what it is!

>>378938593
So can any yahwehfag even come close to refuting OP

>>378938593
Go away Chaosfag.

>>378942456
DELET

>>378958016
>anti-state
>capitalism
Pick one
>either of these things having anything to do with EVA

Is this a meme?

>>378946275
ESS EM TEE

NEUTRAL ROUTE IS ALWAYS BEST ROUTE. LITERALLY.

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