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>boss is too fast >doesn't let you heal >the only

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>boss is too fast
>doesn't let you heal
>the only way to beat him is to do so without taking damage
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>>378923992
yeah I prefer DS3 bosses because I can just smash R1 mindlessly and win
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guys!! blighttown is the fucking worst am i right??! please respond!
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Honestly getting the urge to buy SotFS. I already beat DaS2, but I never touched the new version. Convince me to not do this, please.
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>>378924116
Blight-town is fun, you need to learn to appreciate the vertical design of it. The enemies while annoying at times are well designed, quealagg is a great boss. You also have the joy of entering the great hollow from there.
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>>378923992
That it is not true.

The bad thing are those fire balls and the long flame-sword attack. But you just have to roll to the left in the flame attack.
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>>378924287
I actually prefer softs over the original DaS2, It's got better enemy placement, and a larger player base for online play.
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>>378924372
yeah i like it a lot actually.
>quealagg is a great boss
i dunno if i agree with that but i like having to run from corner to coner getting slowly burned and having to think about your next step/mapping the layout in your head for when you inevitably die.
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I wanna try out a souls game, which has the best PC port?
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>>378924453
The first time I fought him, I still had two of the healing statue things active, it took me forever to figure out that I was supposed to get rid of them.
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>>378924549
Dark Souls 3, it's also the most scrub friendly.
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>>378924552
Oh god, that's just terrible.

Sorry friend.
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>>378924453
yes it is, ave been trying to beat him for DAYS, and the closest ive got to killing him was when i stopped healing and tried a no damage rush
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>tfw first meet havel chasing my up the staircase, nearly shit myself
>tfw after beating the hydra i come back and take him down face to face with an unleveled claymore

felt fucking great man
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>>378923992
>Fight him the first time
>Never put like any levels into ADP
>literally impossible
Just beat him first try after going through sotfs, das2 seems so slow after playing bloodborne and das3
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>hit the boss until it dies
>don't get hit
Literally just 2 objectives and Souls babbies cry.
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>>378923992
>Doesn't let you heal
Dodge one of 4-5 attacks and then heal instead of punishing if you need to heal. Kiddies are so spoiled with these easy ass games the second they have to sacrifice damage to heal or find a situation to heal they fall apart. Sadly only a few bosses are like this.
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>>378925250
>not maxing adp
FEEEEEEEEBLE CURSED ONE
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>>378925171
DaS1 Havel is such a joke now. I bully him every play through. I fisted him naked once.
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>>378923992
How do you people have such a hard time with this boss? I suck at video games and I even got my ass handed to me by Elana, but even I even managed to take this guy down on my first try power stancing great sword with base vitality in less than 5 minutes. How do you guys have this hard of a time with this boss when you're always bullshitting about how easy this game is?
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>heals are so fucking fast in DaS3 I stand there about to get hit, chug an estus, and still have time to block
What went wrong? Even in pvp I heal in front of people and they can't stop it.
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Ivory King is the worst thing ever. Was gonna play through it with a friend to finish off our co-op run, but it was just fucking AWFUL.
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>>378924287
I put over 1000 hours into darksouls 2, I've put 8 hours into sotfs.

It's complete shit. Literally a child ran through the maps with a copy paste tool and just pasted 40 more enemies in every area in completely obtuse annoying locations for the first 3-4 ares.

Then they got bored and the rest of the game is 100% the same literally.

It plays like a 12 year olds romhack of a game.

The improved lightning is nice but ultimately not worth the horrible enemy locations.
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>>378924896
He gives you time to heal, or you can create the moments. But you are going to really understand his moves. Sometimes you are going to have to heal offer dodging an attack instead of attack him.

I died A LOT of times to him, and I also thought that it was very unfair. But you have to learn how to dodge all his attacks.

The worst attack that he has are the fireballs because they are difficult to avoid, and sometimes it's difficult to be far from him when he does it. It's part luck and part knowing what to do.

The other are possible to learn.
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>>378925631
>lie
>on the internet.

Why anon?
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>>378924036
P. Sully would like a word
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>>378925631
Sometimes I think /v/ is more than one person. Sometimes.
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>>378924287
It is vastly superior to the original version.
>>378925746 is a faggot.
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>>378925742
Thematically ebic boss and what a god awful fight.
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>>378925819
>someone bring up criticisms.
"HURRRRR IM RITE THIS DOOD IS WROOONGO!!!!!

How is it better, literally what did they add to the game that made it better in any way.
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>>378925918
More turtles, nigger.
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>>378925802
Sorry I don't have brain problems like you. You probably summon 2 phantoms for every boss fight then shitpost about how "easy" the game is
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>>378923992
Sounds like Barbatos.
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>>378925631
Are you like one of those otherkin fags that's so autistic you believe your own self-headcannon? Or are you just baiting like crazy? You're a faggot either way
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>>378925852
Well, I meant the DLC as a whole, but yeah, the Ivory King himself is a great idea, but is fucking horribly executed. The wonky ass Ivory Knight A.I. ruins that fight.
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>>378925959
Yeah, they did copy paste like 10 turtles every three steps in the second area.

Im glad they "added" that "good" new "feature" worth 50 dollars alone goys.
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GUYS! I JUST BEAT HIM I DID IT! FINALLY! THANK YOU ALL FOR THE SUPPORT
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Not even the hardest boss in his own game.

Now let's talk about that bitch Friede. She's completely drained my will to play, what a fucking ballbuster. Was considering summoning but apart from the NPC there are never any signs in the area. I'm lvl 79, is that too low?
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>>378926057
You didn't like the turtles?
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>>378926042
do you suck your dad's dick with that mouth?
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>>378926101
>79
>Expecting summon signs in DLC

Fucking retarded, all of you
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>>378926101
>I'm lvl 79, is that too low?
holy shit yes
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>>378926101
>complaining about Maria 2.0
Just mash R1
gg no re 2ez
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>>378923992
Jesus christ why the fuck is this boss just some meme edge knight with a giant lava sword and a regular one.I fucking hate this game.
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>>378926210
>>378926232
Well I saw that a lot of people recommended level 80 or so. So I went in a little underleveled. What's a better level to do this then? Because the other boss is also kicking my ass but desu I haven't fought him giving him my all because Friede has me down.
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>>378923992
>mfw soulkiddies think their bosses are too agressive and hit too hard

You niggers haven't seen shit
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Why does no one ever talk about Sinh? He was the best boss in DaS2
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>>378926474
He's a fucking mess. I can't even commit his look to memory because his armor is so bland. I can only tell that's Fume Knight because of that stupid pair of swords.
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>>378926642
He was pretty meh. I don't even remember the fight.
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>>378926642
No he wasn't, he was pretty shitty actually.

The best boss is the weeblord samurai
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>>378926552
Around SL120 you'll find more summon signs. I've only done the DLC at or above 120.
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I am playing through Dark Souls 2 SOTFS and how come I can't use the White Soapstone? Its greyed out when I have it selected in my item slot and I tried it at different max HP levels from 100% to 50%(drop by 10% per death and stops at 50% unless you have Ring of Binding which drops it by 5% and stops at 75% max HP) and still doesn't work. What am I doing wrong? I want to bro-op with people.
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>>378924036
>R1 mash
boy I sure do love this meme. Because timing your attacks, dodging, drinking estus, strafing all of this is mapped to R1. I mean really you press R1 at the start ad keep pressing it and the game plays itself.
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>>378927038
Are you human?
Are you online?
Are you in an area that allows multiplayer?
Are you in the Covenant of Champions?
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>>378926562
Rajang is everyone's bitch
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dg-7bERIqa0
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>>378926562
I posted the wrong fucking video, I can't even shitpost properly tonight
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wsdNVtA16tM
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I think smelter demon was the worst

DUDE, MANDATORY FIRE DAMAGE JUST FROM STANDING BY HIM, LMAO
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>>378927171
>Are you human?
Yes. Am I supposed to stay human or does hollowed work as well?

>Are you online?
Yes

>Are you in an area that allows multiplayer?
How would I tell?

>Are you in the Covenant of Champions?
The Covenant in Majula? Yes. Not supposed to be in that Covenant?
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>>378927210
>3 HBGs 1 LBG
Classic HAME fuckers, of course it will die quickly with that kind of tactic.
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>>378923992
I beat him by restatting myself to get better roll frames, a rapier and high dex, and Velstadt's helm (also I think I used that rose shield and some points to help with my stamina)
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>>378927340
That's not why people disliked Smelter. It was mostly because of two reasons.

a.) the overhead had a really really bad hitbox.

b.) scrubs who can't deal with identical attacks that require different roll timings as well as delayed hits in combos.

I always found it funny people shitted on Smelter for the latter, yet praised Nameless King.
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>>378927341
If its the one you get from a stone, yea, it prevents online connection.

If it's the way of the blue, it's fine (you get this one from the guy sitting next to the monument).

Pic is covenant of champions
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>>378927341
The CoC disables mutliplayer, yes.
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>>378927613
>>378927582
Well shit, might leave that Covenant then. I'm not too far in the game anyway. Already killed Last Giant and already in Shaded Woods. I'll look for another Covenant later on.
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>>378927103
>Because timing your attacks, dodging, drinking estus
I don't time any of this shit anymore.
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>>378928408
Then you are very very lucky. You should get a lottery ticket.
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>>378926101
>tfw tried to fight friede with twinblades
never have I ever felt more like a fool
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*blocks your path*
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>>378929605
Never fought the boss of this area because I got tired of this bullshit.

Coop areas where a mistake
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>>378925631
I suck at video games and I even got my ass handed to me by Elana, but even I even managed to take this guy down on my first try power stancing great sword with base vitality in less than 5 minutes

Dude not everyone plays with min/maxed stats.
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>>378924896
depending on your build, you could try my kind of retarded strat of using a greatshield in phase 1 and switch to two handing in phase 2. I found his phase 1 attacks much more relentless with the only real issue in phase 2 was him randomly stringing an extra attack onto the end of a combo so its never 100% certain when its safe.
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>>378927340
Kalameet.........
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>>378923992
Healing against him is good, makes him forget to go phase two.
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>>378926642
why the shit did he do so much durability damage. was it flavor because of his stone scales or did weapons just spend an unusual amount of time inside him
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>>378924287
It's shit.

Instead of fixing DS2's flaws it inexplicably adds more enemies in random corners of rooms because "Prepare to die XD"
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>>378927340
And that's one of the many reasons why Magic was so OP in DS2.
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>>378931689
Oh, so that explains why my weapons were always at risk of breaking after fighting him; he wasn't even that hard to defeat in first place.
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>>378927340
Best way to beat the Smelter Demon is to roll or strafe left of him for the whole fight.
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>>378926642
>the best boss in dark souls 2 is a reskin of a boss from dark souls 1
nice one b-team
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>>378924549
DaS 2
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>>378927340
>he doesn't have a ranged option
>>378927454
The overhead is fine, you just need to dodge at the right time. Once you get it down, he will never hit you, same as literally every soulsbourne game.
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>>378924549
My good video card fried and I was playing on a shitty radeon card for awhile, and SotFS ran on high graphics at 45-55fps on it
But if you're playing souls for the first time don't go for sotfs
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>>378932750
Sinh was loads easier then Kalameet though. They couldn't even get that right.
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>>378924036
Nameless King, Friede, Gael, and Midir say hi.
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>>378932901
Midir was a great experience to end on.
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>>378929605
If I hadn't miraculously beaten the boss of that area on the first try, I probably never would have done it
Fuck those fucking reindeer fucks
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>>378932901
Nameless king lmao
Friede is a pain will admit
Slave gael lmao
Midir is just too damn fun
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>>378924287
softs is thousand times better. It's the reason the game became playable.
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were Lud and Zallen the hardest boss in ds2?
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>>378932901
I think he meant to say roll mashing, not r1 smashing
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>>378926101
first and second phase are easy pz. Third phase is a bit harder, for sure, but absolutely doable. If you have a hard time, just summon gael
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lemme just uhh...
BB>DaS>DeS>DaSIII>DaSII
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>>378935394
>DeS
>Above anything
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>>378924116
Skip with skeli key
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>>378935489
>I didn't play DeS
Whatever you say, Anon.
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>>378923992
You can definitely heal when fighting him, but I agree that he is basically the culmination of a pattern of bosses in DaS2 whose windows are unreasonably small and hard to predict.

He's difficult, but not the fun kind of difficult. I much prefer a boss like Artorias, whose moveset was actually discernably varied. With Raime and many other DaS2 bosses, the correct response to most of their attacks is to dodge backwards, or forwards if you're feeling brave. With Artorias, you're liable to get hit if you don't vary your dodge direction depending on the attack (jump slams, running thrust, etc). Artorias also has really good windows, especially his charge-up. You can either try to interrupt it or heal and face the damage buff. Bosses buffing in DaS2 usually have a massive damage reduction, further evidence of their extreme aversion to balanced windows in 2.

The whole "big dude with armor" aspect of DaS2 is disappointing, but what I find really disappointing is that they all tend to play the same way. I find there are far fewer bosses in 2 that I actually enjoy fighting, whereas I always look forward to getting to Artorias and Manus as the real tests of whether or not I've mastered my build.
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