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League is slowly, but surely dying, so my question is: when

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League is slowly, but surely dying, so my question is:
when was the golden age of LoL?
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>>378859007
S3+4
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>>378859007
Season 2, even if it was the start of issues like power creep in top lane and morons like CertainlyT designing champions
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any decent ways of selling accounts?
Got an account just collection dust with plenty of skins, that's just wasting away
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when this game will die they will UNBAN everyone and because of this they will bring it back to live and its peak again
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s2+3
I quit in s4
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>>378860729
It won't really affect them since most people who get banned make fucktons of smurfs.
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>tfw you love playing singed in rank but he's in such a shit state right now that he's just bearly viable.
You have to be fighting a really uncoordinated team or a bunch of idiots to do well and riot still believes he's OP bcus he does well in low Leo agaisnt bronze noobs
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>>378860323

Not really. People only buy accounts to play ranked sooner. If you were to sell yours you'd probably have to sell it for 15-40% of the amount spent on it.

Unlikely anyone will buy it all desu
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>>378859007
I feel like it's fine, though.
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>>378859007
>League is slowly, but surely dying
Good, finally.

>when was the golden age of LoL?
It hasn't occurred yet. The golden age of LoL will happen when all LoL servers close and everyone who ever worked on the game dies in a meteor explosion.
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>>378859007
>when was the golden age of LoL
when it dies.
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Anyone got the krepo leaks?
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before dota 2 was released
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>>378859007
Season 3
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>>378859007
Question should be.
What's next? What's the new shit?
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>>378859007
>when was the golden age of LoL?

Whenever it was before Lee Sin was put in the game and ruined everything forever.
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>>378859007
The beta was the golden age
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>>378861682
this lol
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>>378859007
Preseason 1, when people had no fucking clue how to play and esports wasn't even a thing.
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>>378859007
Season 2, where team fights lasted more than 5 seconds and you didn't lose the instant someone got first blood
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>>378859007
Season 2 was great if you liked hard bruiser carries and tank junglers. Less objective-oriented game, it was all about snowballing your toplaner.

Season 3 at later parts was great because game slowly started to shift to objectives. Jungle meta was shit though. Elise, Lee Sin all the way.
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Golden Age was when HotshotGG streamed on own3d.tv and Twitch was the new, buggy mess on the block
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>>378860729
>implying banning people actually has any effect at all on a FREE TO PLAY game

Kek
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Is it dying? You have any proof like declining numbers? I'd love to see this piece of shit game die, but I don't buy that it's actually happening.
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>>378861716
Hero shooters like Overwatch?
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>>378859007
>when was the golden age of LoL?
when tsm got fucked in the ass by the koreans and then the koreans got bodied by TPA
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I want league to die but this is obvious wishful thinking, it's not dying right now, for all I know and last red it's increasing in popularity this year and still has the massivest playerbase of any current MMO. I don't see league declining until 2019-2020 and die within the next 3-4 years after that (in some specific geographic areas, it will still continue to have a huge 3rd worlder playerbase after that)
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>>378861309
Loved playing Singed in S2-3, was first champ that got me to plat fast and easy. Good times.
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>>378859007
The Golden Age is right now because yasfags dont get to play their weeb cuck champ.

riot finally do something good for once. took them long enough
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s1 was the beginning of the end
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>>378859007
before ranked fags ruined it.
Around the time when lux was released, I think?
after that, it was nothing but downhill.

In any case, that was like 3-4 years ago
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>>378861716
Dota 2 is the future
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>>378859992
Jungling in season 2 was pretty awful, though. I hated sitting on a couple of HoGs and a stack of wards while I waited for my welfare check.

Not that constantly getting matched against Graves and Lee Sin is any better these days.
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>>378861309
they are buffing him next patch
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>>378859007
Beta, when people were chiller than Dotards and the game had no clear pretenses of becoming the next e-spurrt.
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>>378865806
Dota 2 already peaked. It had a massive overhaul and update last December and player numbers haven't even held, they've dropped. If LoL is dying, it's obvious they aren't going to Dota.
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>>378861338
damn that sucks, oh well
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>>378859007
Is riot games the most incompetent company?
>Make new client
>"Its done but all these features of the old client dont work anymore!"
>Make champion
>Disabled for 4+ weeks
>Took 3 years for spectator
>Still no replays
>Reworks in the works for 3+ years now
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You keep making this thread OP, I don't think league is dying.
They keep releasing good champions lately and are addressing some issues the community had.

They eventually will fix most problems and will continue to dominate the MOBA genre.
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>>378859007
Season 2
there is no denying, everything was viable, everything could work, only 6 champions at a time were OP as fuck(enough for the 6 bans in ranked)
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>>378862145
>the time that HotshotGG was the "greatest" player in LoL has come and gone
>CLG cheese did not triumph over TSM autismeta

HotshotGG deserved better.

>>378863421
Has there ever been a time TSM hasn't been buttfucked by Koreans? I'm curious, haven't watched competitive LoL in a long time.
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>>378866497
test
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>>378866497
>Make new client
>"Its done but all these features of the old client dont work anymore!"
they did say they gonna update it. Yesterday they updated some of the looks in champion select
>Make champion
>Disabled for 4+ weeks
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>Still no replays
replays been a thing for some time now
>Reworks in the works for 3+ years now
Some reworks are warranted. GP and Poppy are a lot of fun to play. But then there is really dumb minor shit they've been doing like Reksai and malz.
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>>378866497
>Make new client
>"Its done but all these features of the old client dont work anymore!"
>All
Not true, only chats and item builds because 1% of the players use them and they were low priority.

>Make champion
>Disabled for 4+ weeks
That hasn't happened since Azir and he wasn't disabled for that long.

>Took 3 years for spectator
>Still no replays
>Reworks in the works for 3+ years now
Confirmed living under a rock.
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>>378866850
>being THIS new to lol
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>>378866806
I'll never understand why everyone was going gaga for Vi.
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>>378862530
No actual proof of numbers but I started playing recently again after a few years and queue times all around are far longer than they were two/three years ago. I noticed the same thing when watching Challenger streams. I decided to make a new account and lower levels are all bots in bot games and smurfs in pvp. This could only be in NA though.
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>>378866559
>people shit on rito for not being creative
>create jhin and ivern

i don't get it
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>>378864808

He wasn't removed from the game tho
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>>378866806
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>>378866984

Jhin was the result of a kick they were on (and still are on really) of re-allocating stats to make item builds more flexible since your choices are largely irrelevant.
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>>378867118
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>>378866889
>Not true, only chats and item builds because 1% of the players use them and they were low priority.
That's no excuse

>That hasn't happened since Azir and he wasn't disabled for that long.
The fact it has happened at all, and multiple times in fact is very telling
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>>378866984
>lolbabs complain the game is too safe
>Rito makes Kled.
>lolbabs complain about no support junglers
>Rito makes Ivern Who is still a fucking stronk mage
>Xayah and Rakkan
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>>378859007
Stop shilling you turbot faggot these threads suck dick
t. plays league everyday
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>>378859007
It's still dominating the MOBA genre

It will outlast adota and HOTS
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>>378866918
>queue times all around are far longer than they were two/three years ago

It's because there are way more queues and now the whole select two roles stuff makes them longer. Blind pick is really fast but I'd rather wait 2 or 3 mins more than get some laggy ass dude who enters the lobby 30 seconds after me and claims my lane and instalocks a champion.

>longer in challenguer streams
Yeah queues for them suck mad dick, like 30 mins. The thing is that the challenguer population is low in NA. And if they make them faster, people get auto-filled more and also get matched with diamond players.
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>>378867438
The Isn't challenger like top 200 players in all regions?
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>>378866497
>most incompetent company
as much as id like to agree its actually Gamefreak

that fucking company has literally done nothing with the Pokemon series
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>>378867545
Yeah, 200 accounts. In NA actually there might be 100 actual challenguer players, they have multiple accounts there. QT has 5 I think in top 10? Something like that.

Also not all of them play at the same time.
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Fucking mobility creep man, we all saw it coming, but Riot just kept going until this shit was unplayable.
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>>378861596
It's quite disgusting. You don't want to see it.
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>>378867604
Fair enough
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>>378866428
Does that mean they somehow... disappeared?
>getting a girlfriend, a job, getting kids...
That would mean... they were normies all along... naaaaaaaaaaaaaaah
CANCER is normies whatever is popular is about normies how hard it is for you to understand that
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>>378859007
S2+3 were the golden ages.
Shit went downhill after that.
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>>378867604
Not to mention the framerate drops in X and Y with only two fucking pokemon on screen.
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see this logo?
This was how long ago that was
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>>378861596
The what? Tell me more
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>>378868220
You don't want to see his cum on his stomach. Believe me.
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>>378860729
Holy fuck what a retard
You think if banned people wanted to play the game they couldn't just make another account
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>League is dying

I wonder where have I heard this before... oh, right. Here a year ago. And the year before that, too.
Do you have numbers to back that up, OP? Like, declining playerbase, decreased traffic on their main site, a revenue fall from RP sales? Less interest, attendance and coverage from the e-sports circuit? Because the numbers Riot is legally forced to disclose proves that all of this is actually increasing.

Oh. You played it and had longer queues than you remember and you're basing the death of a game that has been only getting bigger these last years with increased mainstream interest in e-sports and an accessible F2P casual-friendly structure?

Not even going to try to meme you, OP. Do some research before you get on the soapbox and make a retard out of yourself.
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>>378868458
It's hard to level 30 lvl account. After I got banned (played since early season 2) I just stopped playing.
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>>378866984
Hey fuck you buddy Ivern is one of the best things this genre has created. Also best jungle
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>>378868336
Did he have nudes leak?
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>ever playing free to download trash
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>>378868791
YES.
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>>378868858
>I justify my choice of games by paying for them
>paying for games makes them good
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>>378868668
I'm praising rito because Ivern is totally unique

>>378868561
Shitposting/falseflagging dotardu

>>378868791
He sexted a 16yo girl and send her tons of nudes and dickpics, in one video he cums on his chest, costed him his job and won't be on social media for a while
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>>378859007
S2 and s3

I quit in the tank meta (and with quitt I mean I made support delete my account)

Only spend around 30 bucks.
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>>378869112
My b I read it wrong. I don't care for Rakan tho and Xayah just seems really flat. I don't think creating two new champs as a couple was a good idea. They foil one another and by themselves they're really bland.
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S1, S2. After that they had too many heroes and started the homogenization of heroes.

Tencent was the death blow
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>>378869010

>market value is meaningless
>playing games with poor people and people in third world countries doesnt effect the quality of gameplay
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>>378869403
Rakan is fun as fuck though, R E W initiation is broken and most likely will get nerfed hard, Xayah is a monster late game, she literally does thousands of damage with her E
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>>378869521
>market value has any meaning whatsoever
>playing with children that bought the game with mommy and daddy's money doesn't affect the quality of gameplay
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>>378869010

go play Viking Clans then fag
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>League is dying
>Runes Rework at the end of the season
>Refund and Rewards for all runes/pages purchased
>All runes going forward are free
Its not going anywhere, the only game that could have competed was Overwatch but professional Overwatch isnt interesting and Blizzard is gonna cancel that shit when no teams bother to give them $12 million for a spot for literally return.
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>>378869568
I mean I like Rakan as a support because he's super busted. Xayah isn't all that strong though. She can very easily snowball in the other direction and lose lane. Like you said, her focus is her late game. I just don't like their designs very much.
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>>378869723
I don't even know what that is lol. The only f2p games I play are TF2 and League but keep projecting.
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I had most fun in s3 and 4.

I started in mid s2 without friends , solo and was learning. Xerath/Riven release me thinks.

Enforcing meta, terrible balancing like reworking reworked already champions, no fun allowed. LoL is no longer fun to me, sure i might jump and play with my waifu few games(when she gets a new skin) ,but I dont feel rewarded at all when i play with my champion/s. They are doing everything to remove skillcap and nerf them if some % of players really get gud with them.
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>>378859007
Leaguefags needs to move on to the superior game
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>>378869918
What's so bad about enforcing meta though? Like I get that trying new things is fun and all but all they should do to accommodate that is just make a new mode where meta isn't enforced.
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season 3 and 4 playing nothing but vi was some of the best times ive had with video games
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s2 and s3 best but no op its not dying
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>>378869976
i would if i didnt have to grind again from the start
seems tiring
hows that new cowboy champion they released some month ago
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>>378866497
>>Make new client
>>"Its done but all these features of the old client dont work anymore!"
Like?
>>378866889
Item builds are back too.
>>Make champion
>>Disabled for 4+ weeks
This didn't happen for years now.
>>Took 3 years for spectator
>>Still no replays
Replays have been implemented for months now.
>>Reworks in the works for 3+ years now
>how DARE they update their game
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>>378861454
THIS
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>>378866428
Announcement to people unaware of this type of shitposting: Steamcharts uses rolling averages whose datapoints are, obviously, equal to 0 in the present and immediate future, making the graph show decrease where there is none.
Consult http://steamcharts.com/app/570 for real numbers.
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>>378866698
>>378866850
>>378870431

hello riot marketers
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Anyone else /PlaysOneBotGameFor200IP/ here?
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>>378861309

I'm not even talking about "low elo" or ranked play with singed. He's just a fucking meme champ no matter how you look at it.

>tee-hee don't chase me or you die
>tee-hee you can't kill me unless you chase me
>tee-hee you're not gonna kill me after my first back items
>tee-hee look how pro I am I can go behind your tower

He needs a complete rework end of discussion.
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>>378862530
Lack of releases of statistics is itself proof of them decreasing. If the player numbers increased, Tencent/Riot would never pass an opportunity to report on them.
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>>378870529
>http://steamcharts.com/app/570
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>>378859007
>League is slowly, but surely dying
Wait, what? It's actually becoming even more popular, especially when Riot is going to franchise the entire League dude. And League always one of the top streamed games it's vastly popular than any other game right now.
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>>378870387
>that new cowboy champion
You mean Revenant? Right now he's a top tier pick
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>>378869976
paragon is boring and has the same "every girl we release looks pretty much the same and is a whore"
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>>378870756
so it went from 1 068 000 players to 973 000
that's nothing
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>>378869656

What are you a fucking communist? Free to download, forget free to play, means so little effort and money goes into the game you couldn't pay people to play it. If you had to pay to even download league the game would be dead.

Its the same thing over and over, and its a EXACT COPY of a game mod - not even a full game. They should have never tried to extend DOTA-stye games
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>>378870848
>And League always one of the top streamed games
Make a stream and set its game streamed to League, even if you're actually streaming fart Elsa porn you'll automatically get 100 viewers instantly. League streams are viewbotted.
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>>378859007
Anyone that says anything other than S1+S2 is a newfag
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>>378871103
No, stop. Your strawman argument is not gonna work on me.
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>>378859007
I just got into it. I love to chill killing bots after a hard work day

>>378868620
Why did you get banned?
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>>378870756
>popular thing=best thing
I'd rather play chess than checkers even if more people would rather play checkers because it's easier to understand
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>>378859007
>when was the golden age of LoL?
When I had fun playing it
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>>378871176
>doesn't even know what a strawman means
now now, please raise your qualifications if you wish to earn real money and not RiotPoints for your alternative marketing job.
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>>378871092
Losing players after one of your game's biggest updates doesn't inspire confidence in it growing. The original point being refuted here is that Dota 2 is growing or absorbing LoL's playerbase.
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>>378870085
But being able to think outside of the box should be available in the main and serious competitive environment since the meta typically lagged weeks (or even longer) behind what was actually viable back when I used to play the game to the point where you'd get bullied for picking shit that was blatantly overpowered even in unranked as long as the meta didn't agree with it. It's not like splitting the playerbase into another unsustainable game mode is even remotely a good idea either.
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>>378871085

That's pretty much LoL especially early on.
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>League is slowly, but surely dying
This has been said for over 6 years now lmao
Fact is, League is more popular now than ever
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>>378859007
Season 2 was the best, even though supporting and jungling weren't fun at all. Competitive play was GOAT and teams used actual strategies instead of just picking the FOTM champs first.
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>>378871304
>When I had fun playing it

League only sucks when you get stuck in elo hell am I right? Because ask any person who hates League, ask him how far he went, and usually he'll say, "well, back in my day I was gold, plat, yadda yadda yadda" and then he gets his ass smashed and blames it on the updates and meta changes.

Adapt mother fucker and get good.
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>>378871472
its dead everywhere but china
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>>378871472
you mean "about to hit its biggest slump with no road to recovery"
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>>378871576
You're absolutely wrong in every way, shape, and form.

Basketball players are throwing mad monies towards eSports in League, it is growing even bigger.
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>>378871571
I never bothered with ranked after placing Silver II two years ago.
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>>378859007
2011 to 2016.
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>>378871576
and murrica, but that's because we're cattle
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>>378871092
That's peak players, an irrelevant statistic.
Only Average matters.
>>378871353
Dota updates aren't created in order to reel in new players, they're there to adjust the gameplay for those who already play. The player losses are the pangs of shitskin peruvians needing to download the patch through carrier pigeons and buttmad Juiceshits quitting over the only playstyle they're capable of using getting nerfed.
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>>378869417
I still remember when Tencent bought Riot out. They halved IP from every match, then halfed it again a year later. It was possible to get 350 ip after a 50 min match before Tencent. They changed Karthus from a skeleton to some generic liche so chinks wouldn't get superstitious, and also replaced the warcraft 3 on crack art style with generic modern anime looking shit.

Chinks
Ruin
Everything
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>>378870848
>muh drake maymay
>muh twitch maymay
csgo + dota2 has more views that lol, and those are only 2 steam games
keep pretending your game is not not dying
i also sold my plat acc cause fuck riot and his retarded matchmaking and forced 50/50
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>>378872030
>i also sold my plat acc cause fuck riot and his retarded matchmaking and forced 50/50

Yup, another faggot former "le pro" gamer who got his ass smashed and calling it quits for League. You're just another washed up vagina who can't get any better. Pucker up fuckface, you suck and it's time for you to play more casualized games you enormous dolt.
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>>378872030
>csgo + dota2 has more views that lol, and those are only 2 steam games

LMAO. This fucking moron adds both viewership for both CS:GO and Dota 2 to try to outnumber League views. HAHAHAHAHA. STUPID FAGGOT!
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>>378871093
See, the only type of person that thinks this is one that has played one game or no games of the genre.
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Jinx will always be best girl
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>>378871085
>paragon is boring
Not nearly as boring as league
>every girl we release looks pretty much the same
If you think Serath, Morigesh, and Countess all look the same, then you need to get your eyes checked
>is a whore
>Wew lad, stop projecting this hard
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>>378871827
>Dota updates aren't created in order to reel in new players
Don't be disingenuous, every company wants new players to make money off of. Valve is no exception.
The average players went down too, by the way.
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>>378872441
PUFFY
U
F
F
Y
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>>378871428
It's really people want a consistent chance at climbing. They don't want to get demoted because one guy thought he would do something new for a change.
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>>378872464
>Don't be disingenuous, every company wants new players to make money off of. Valve is no exception.
[citation needed]
>The average players went down too, by the way.
I've explained why.
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>>378859007
Sona/Swain release here.

Season 1 because you could just goof around and play what you wanted When NA got completely and utterly destroyed by EU trying to play tanky dps comps by 1 top, 1 mid, jungle, adc and support bot comps. Completely defined the meta that it is today.

Can't even play Singed support now without getting banned. Thought we got past this after banning Eve mains when she had 30% winrate.
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>>378872330
only 2 steam games own the whole riot company.
keep trying cuck
now keep track of all the steam games on twitch, WOAH DUDE
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>>378871948
>before tencent
>heroes were 3150 or 6300 at release
>tencent is looking to buy riot
>4800 is introduced,
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>>378872679
Dota's skillcap certainly hasn't raised with 7.00. You don't dumb the game down to appeal to the people already playing it.
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Unfortunately it grew this year. We can only hope it dies next year.
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>>378872961
>it grew this year

see >>378871639
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>>378859007
>tfw love the game but hate the community
i know "my team sucks" makes me sound like a whiny kid but that's seriously how i feel, when i start a ranked i feel like i'm the only one tryharding
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>>378871948
>and also replaced the warcraft 3 on crack art style with generic modern anime looking shit.

>Chinks
>Ruin
>Everything

Are you really complaining about the anime look when you're on fucking 4chan, out of all the places that worship weeb culture and anime? Fucking dumbass.
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>>378872704
I sorta know that feel. People get so angry they shit themselves when I go Pantheon adc. It fucking works but they won't let me do it.
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>>378873014
And that's ok to feel that way. But acting out towards your teammates on full on tilt then that's not good.
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>>378872993
Oh wow a decline in people googling it means it's dying. Fucking retard.
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>>378861309
singed is so trash
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>>378873030
Im a weeb but dont want western shit to shit out terrible animu clones and eastern shit to shit out shitty western clones.
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>>378859007
Never, dota 2 was allways superior.
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>>378872993
>>378871639
>Using search terms to dictate it's popularity

Fucking

Retards
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What is Riot's next game after league dies? Something similar to Overwatch?
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>>378861818
beta was complete and utter trash
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>>378873194
it pretty much does

google directly shows how interested people are in playing a game like league where you have to learn loads of shit and look up new builds etc to succeed. it also shows how interested people are in community created content which riot have done their best to destroy over the years

>>378873379
>calls others retard
>cant use apostrophes correctly
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>>378859007
Season 2, all other season can suck my ass
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>>378873402
Remember when Riot bought out Radiant Studios and Rising Thunder?

Their game will be announced this E3. And it's going to be a big launch.
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>>378866559
MOBA genre itself is dying tho'
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>>378866497
They change everything and add stuff instead of fixing and refining the fucking current game.

And they reworked Rengar, one of the most unique fighters/assassins.
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>>378873498
>everyone uses Google
>Google is the only thing that shows what people are interested in
Fucking retard.
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>>378873840
you seem really upset about that image
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>>378867729
mobility creep?
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>>378873896
>posts image that doesn't prove his point
>u mad?
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>>378872441
I despise the crazy, but her design is so damn amazing it's impossible to resist.
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>>378873974
buttslammed
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>>378873554
I can't wait to see how shit they really are when coming up with a game idea all their own
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>>378872441
*worst girl
Worst design and personality
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>>378859007

Golden age was when my friends stopped playing it and switched to Dota after I shilled Dota to death despite never having played it.
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>>378874020
You could at least put a disclaimer that says you don't actually know what you're talking about
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>>378873905
I think he's referring to "basically everyone has a short cooldown dash"
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>>378866497
No, that title belongs to Red5.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EqyZjJAOWUI
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>>378874114
you want a trigger warning? go to reddit for that

you'll fit in there real good too
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>>378874230
Nah you'll be better off there. Lots of epik shitposters like yourself there
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When they started doing meme reworks like this shit.
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>>378874230
>you want a trigger warning? go to reddit for that

Oh brother.

Not the same guy you're replying to but

Holy fuck, this alt-right "out of muh safe space" is such a cliche now.

You're probably a kid or teenager
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don't people normally say s4 is the greatest? idk, i've stopped playing the game when they started jewing the playerbase hard. it's funny seeing lcs streaming views going down year after year. eu barely goes over 100k
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>>378874348
that actually required some skill and effort though
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>no one watches lol streams anymore like they used to
>"i-it's n-n-no-not dying guise"
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>>378874312
>>378874384
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Beta was the closest it ever got to being a good game.
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>>378874592
beta was SHIT, it worked so poorly jesus fuck
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>>378874592
I remember being excited since dota was still stuck on war3 and lel looked good back then, briefly
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>>378874587
>I'm not Reddit, you are!
pathetic 2bh
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>>378874197

This man knows what's up. Also S2Games.
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>>378874587
>Disagrees with someone
>readjusts glasses, "G-GO BACK TO PLEBBIT"
>"Back to your fucking SAFE SPACES."
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>>378874348
Barrel combos are hard to pull through and it means GP lost all of his damage for a few seconds.
Besides, that was very easy to avoid with the 50 caliber net.
Not to mention, letting a GP get huge like a Riven or a Vayne means you and your team fucked up and deserve to lose anyway.
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>>378874348
>Gangplank
>Not Galio
Let's kill off a character and replace him with a huge faggot without giving people who owned him a Classic skin of him with an actual gargoyle head and tell those who want the old look to fuck off. It won't totally backfire, everyone hated him remember?
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I don't understand where this meme that League is dying is coming from. It's almost as if it pops up right before Summer Split to get people talking about the game and generate interest as World's is coming around the corner.
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>>378859007
pre dunkey
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>>378874903
Yes, Galio was awful and he's actually viable now.
>Entitled fags who want something for owning something before reworks.
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>>378874489
>>378874874
it's literally connecting fucking circles dude
>it's okay to one-shot enemy carry underneath a tower with basic abilities because shooting the first barrel and placing the third within a 3 hour timeframe is really hard to pull off for a silver 5 player apparently
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>>378874348
A triple ghost-barrel isn't exactly simple to pull off and it's Tobias Fate, who was probably stupid fed.

Fate embarrassed Faker in midlane with GP last year while he was here for World's.
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>>378864808
He's the simplest character to outplay in the game, you're fucking retarded for letting yasfags get to you like that.
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>>378874348
>All these fucking minigames to force counterplay

I regret liking every champion that was going to get reworked back when I stopped playing a few seasons ago.
Quite possibly the saddest part is that they haven't even all been reworked yet.
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>>378875174
>triple barrel
>counterplay
pick one
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>>378874723
you literally did that in this post >>378874312

>>378874859
https://boards.fireden.net/_/search/filename/%20Oh_5e69e0_5677253/

go and post about your waifus on /a/ you pathetic permavirgin autistic faggot
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honestly in my eyes the game has been shit ever since Zed dropped, then became unplayable on Juggernaut and Poppy rework, as a shit ton of old, non reworked champs fell into complete shit, Aatrox wasn't allowed to be good, and Lee Sin wasn't allowed to be average, those rules were very quickly established, and honestly it kills the game for me, also CC lasts way too long in a game where you can die in less than a second, point and click 2.5 second disable is fucking stupid
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>>378875029
>Caring about gameplay when everyone after Jinx follows the "Mobility First" philosophy
>Alienating a niche like that because of memes
Nah you're just a husbando-hopping faggot who wanted stone dick because of how buff-looking he is. Everyone I knew hated the new Galio in general from how he looked to how he played and only one or two people tried him out and still felt awkward using him, but that's only because they had an older skin of him.
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>>378875282
U mad? :)
Cry
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>>378872448
Enough shilling the game is broken
The card system is stupid and pointless since many cards are situational
It's almost impossible to play as tank when their are characters that can 2 shot you
They keep giving homing or lock on abilities to the recent new heros
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>>378875058
He's 3 levels ahead, with an almost complete build, 9 kills and 200+ CS.
He was huge and that's not even impressive or broken. A tumble Vayne auto that crits and also has energized attack probably does more damage.
AN AUTO ATTACK.
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>>378874909
its the dotards, notice how dota2 threads started appearing again then the league is dying threads.. Guess they are in panic mode since the game is dead
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>>378875498
cry about a game I dislike dying? :( me sad
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>>378869770
Overwatch on a non-professional level is "fun"
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>You still have to manually last hit minions in MOBAS
last hitting isn't fun
it should be automatic
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>>378875471
Yeah well, your buddies are the ones who are husbandos. The new Galio is an amazing vanguard that can tank and dish out damage. Plus his new W is amazing and the ult is pretty strong but fair instead of FLASH ULT WIN TEAMFIGHT XD!
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>Ruining champions like Malzahar and MUH PLAYS
made me drop the game
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>>378875659
Do people really have an issue with this? It's like first nature to me.

>>378875689
I agree on everything you've said about Galio but I feel like his ult is a little on the weak side.
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>>378875542
Makes sense, I guess.
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>>378869770
>Runes are going to be free
>Runes are turned into retarded meme shit
>Rune buyer's "compensation" will be a summoner icon and a mystery gift probably
>Champion prices will be "adjusted" to account for the loss of the rune IP sink
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>>378875542
damn how did pubg get that popular
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>>378875689
Why are you still bringing in gameplay shit? I swear anyone who praises Galio only talks about how he plays and not how he is in general. Is League that shit where the character's only identity is their kit because Aurelion was 10/10 in gameplay and characterization even if he isn't a rooty-tooty bang-banging nuker or mitigation/CC battery like everyone else in the game.
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>>378875757
Malzahar literally got his rework reverted
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>>378875689
His ult is a bit weak, honestly. Either people haven't figured out how to use it yet (which is unlikely with people like Hauntzer and Huni who can take tank and carry top laners and make magic out of them both got wrecked on it), or it needs some buffing. The rest of hit kit is pretty balanced and effective everywhere else, though.

I think if they buffed the range he could fly, it would be better. Increase it's map utility since it's damage and slow are pretty whatever.
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>>378875029
That's the thing.

Galio isn't fucking Viable.
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>>378875778
It's hard to land and a worse Shen ult, however, if you have another vanguard like Leona or Jarvan, you can make some amazing plays.
Specially with a Yasuo in your team.
>>378875990
>Talking about games
>WHY ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT GAMEPLAY!
>Praising SASSY ALMOST GAY DRAGON XD
Yeah, you are a faggot.
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>>378875229
1) Technically you can last hit the first barrel before GP
2) I never specified that it was good/effective counterplay, just that it was forced fucking counterplay
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>>378876115
>Not viable
>Is played in challenger
?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
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>>378875540
>>378875128
>>378874874

>b-But GP is hard.

No he's not, he was pretty much perma banned since his rework because Barrels like that are easy as fuck to land, are SUPER SAFE and GP is easy to lane as.
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>>378876080
He got reworked again?
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>>378872235
>Implying League isn't the most casualized "game" of the MOBA genre

Kek
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>>378875327
If you don't like the game, don't play it, that's fine, but:

>Zed unplayable
>Old champs are shit
>Aatrox is bad
>Lee sin is op
>CC lasting too long

Those are lies. Zed is great right now, not all old champs are shit, the same way not all new champs are in a great state, Aatrox isn't bad since the rework, Lee Sin got nerfed hard and Mercury and QSS work for the CC.
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>>378875659
There's something undignified about sitting in a corner waiting for a minion to be grounded down enough that you can deliver the killing blow, over and over for 10 minutes, yes.
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>>378876226
>Is played in challenger

Every fucker is played in Challenger because Challenger is the retard level where everyone sucks their own cocks at how great they are.

Galio is worthless because he provides nothing to the team, and he's not a good front line tank.
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>>378876314
>plays mobatrash
>worried about dignity

L O L
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>>378876215>>378876215
>1) Technically you can last hit the first barrel before GP
>the entire premise of the triple barrel is to position the first one in such a way to prevent people from hitting it
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>>378876251
GP isn't hard. You just farm and get fed.

But a proper triple ghost-barrel is pretty difficult to actually land on anyone in Tobias Fate's elo.
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>>378876259
In my first 6 Games with new Malz i've had some hard matchups like Lux and Orianna and some semi-hard with Brand, Ahri and Viktor. They all could easily kill my Voidlings with their AoE Skills. I think the early is a little weak, had some Problems with the last hits, but when you get Lost Chapter its no Problem anymore. The mana sustain is pretty nice, you could literally stay on Lane forever. I also E Q the caster minions and than summon 3 voidlings (which are very nice Tower shredders too). E'ing the caster minion also prevents that Situation if you E a meele one and this little bastard runs out of the swap range.
Later in mid to late game new Malz just feels insane. Finally 100-0 bursting a enemy away is back on my Voidprophet. I could really carry all the six games, we've lost 2 cause of fed sidelanes but in every Game ive had most damage of my Team or even most in match. The damage back on the beam is very very joyfull. The little Q changes didnt effect me much, still good to hit. Also like the Voidlings in that status. Helping to push lanes really quick with no enemy around and they are a big help to crush down them towers. I think the summon range could be a little bit bigger, had some Problems to get the Voidlings over Blue Buff wall for fast camp clear.
Overall i really like the changes. Weaker early but burst power in mid to late!
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>>378859007
Season 2 and 3
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>>378876290
>Popular
>Casual

When will the meme stop? Literally pick one. It's just like original Dota but they threw in their own original champs plus setting up with their runes and masteries system.
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>>378876307
>Aatrox isn't bad since the rework

AHAHAHAHAHAHA

>Removed his Magic damage on his E so he's hard countered by Armor.

>Still CCable during Q.

>Base damage so pisspoor his Passive is useless.

>attack animation so shit he can't trade reliabily in auto attacks.
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>>378874348
>People completely missing the fact that he's fucking 9 - 1 - 14, fed out of his fucking mind

Why is this even getting replies, fed carries do damage wow

These are the same people who complained that League is baby-sized rofl
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>>378876414
I'm not talking about specifically GP triple barrel in any of my posts anyway.
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>>378876601
Because there is Zero Counterplay to GP.

"Ghost Barrels" are as hard to do as Animation canceling with Riven. It's something mongoloids think is hard.
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>>378876465
I stopped playing after his first horrible rework but ok
what a wall of text
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>>378859007
If anything its increasing when you look at the percentage of the playerbase playing ranked
ranked solo/duo no normals,ranked 5v5s,draft mode no aram and no chinese server. Source is op.gg/statistics/tier/ just click on the flag at the top right corner and visit all servers.

Region Mid-2016 Mid-2017 Diff%
EUW 2.2M 3.1M +41%
KR 2.6M 2.9M +11%
EUNE 1.1M 1.6M +52%
NA 1.4M 1.4M -3%
BRA 0.7M 1.1M +70%
TR 0.4M 0.8M +73%
LAN 0.3M 0.5M +77%
LAS 0.3M 0.5M +55%
RUS 0.1M 0.2M +44%
OCE 0.2M 0.2M +10%
JP x 0.1M x
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>>378875659
I think SMITE did last hitting best

if your near a minion when it dies you get a portion of the gold but if you actually last hit you get the full value
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>>378859007
Source?
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>>378859007
>when was the golden age of LoL?
I don't remember which season it was, but it was the season when they were adding actual balanced champions.

When they started giving every god damn new champion a gap closer ability, it turned to shit. All of those new champs have a gap closer, distant poke, a nuke, a stun and some sort of survival thing. Some new champs are literal linear upgrades to old champs.

I really liked the older monster themed champs with quirky abilities, but these new champions had no weaknesses so it ultimately became a choice of "play an old champ and certainly lose" vs "play a new champ and have a chance at winning".
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>>378876803
> NA -3%

LOL DEAD FUKKEN GAYM
>>
Riot is conscious of that

they're going full damage control mode this season, they mgaically decided to start listening to community, started releasing fan service skins and legendaries almost every patch, and rushed their new shitty client that's been in development since 2015. They're trying desperately trying to extend their lifetime.
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>>378876570
Have you even played him?

E being physical is actually better now, it works with Black Cleaver, his core now, stacks now, and enemies don't fucking start with armor early game, his E max is all about early game, when enemies don't have armor. And if they are a tank who build armor, then it's a free fucking lane because tanks can't kill Aatrox, he can' fucking 1v2 the jungler.

>CCable during Q
In lane it never matters, you either Q first, or you E R AA Bork AA and you wait until they waste their dashes/flash and you Q.

In teamfights you should never ever use your Q early, you save it until they use their CC and THEN jump in

>Base damage piss poor, AA animation shit
Confirmed never played Atrox, after his rework all of his early stats got buffed and his AA is smooth as fuck

I'm not going to lie saying Aatrox is great now, but he's like GP, niche but certainly not bad.
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>Release Xin Zhao
>Release Vladamir
>CBT Jax
>Pre-dodge change Jax

There never was a golden age.
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>>378876189
>Dissing Aurelion
What's the fucking point of playing a character if you don't really give a shit about said character to begin with? Do you just play for your gacha-boxes and key frags as if they're a carrot on the stick as you farm up your rank and buy the next shitty-looking champ you have no interest in yet you buy it anyway because they're strong at the moment?

No wonder this game is dying, you faggots just do the same thing over and over as if it was work and barely anyone talks about the actual gameplay and characters. Just esport shit like some lanky ass Korean boy who either made a B-tier character good or doing something stupid and silly. Don't get to the reworks either because everyone talks about how everything needs to be changed as if they were an antagonist in some Sci-Fi novel, but killing off a character for some shitty meme husbando is not a rework, that's just the Chinese trying to make buck off stupid laowai like you by killing off a character because they're underplayed and everyone jokes about it when people fucking forgot champs like Skarner existed.
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>>378876564
It's a snowball simulator that lasts 20 minutes and the only reason people play is to 1 shot people in a frenzied rush after winning first blood or flashing first

It's not like dota, ranged characters kite, characters are homogenized and the balance is all over.

Runes and Masteries only made the gap between paying and not paying greater, and there's only a couple masteries configurations anyway

Every hero they release is a pretty whore, a cute thing, or a spooky ghost

There's no denying, no turn rate, no high ground, items do not round out your character but build on their innate strengths, items do no counter characters, counter picking is a joke, etc etc etc
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>>378876973
>When they started giving every god damn new champion a gap closer ability, it turned to shit. All of those new champs have a gap closer, distant poke, a nuke, a stun and some sort of survival thing.

This shit. After Season two the mobility creep got really out fucking out of hand.
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>>378876334
>He's not a frontile Tank
>Has great engage, damage mitigation, variable hard CC and a lane wide knockup
You are retarded and just don't like him, ok.
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>>378877160
>Release Xin Zhao
I started playing right after he was released.
>mfw watching our xin solo the enemy team
Nobody remember how ridiculous release Miss Fortune was either
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>>378876731
>Because there is Zero Counterplay to GP.

That's why he was perma picked when he came out. What they did was, instead of nerfing his strengths, they made his weaknesses more blatant.

And it worked, the reason he rarely gets picked and the reason Tobias Fate, the man in the video, stopped playing him is because GP fucking sucks monkey dick early game, he gets demolished by early game champions.

You can't one shot carries when you are 1 6 in lane with 2 turrets down and your team is getting buttfucked by the top lane that had a free lane and got herald and used TP and shit.

GP is like Nasus, he is a scaling champ, by a cost, that is balanced and he doesn't even have a high pick or ban rate.
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>>378876334
Wait

is this guy autistic?
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>>378875659
HOTS
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>>378877075
Aatrox can't even outduel people like Fiora or Irelia.
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the golden age of LoL was watching this pathetic gooklet crash and burn and then get exposed for the mentally ill piece of shit he is

the damage he did still needs to be undone though, riot are still sjw tier with their game bans.

the mute button is enough.
>>
s1-s3
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>>378877471
>the blizzard Jew
HMM
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>>378877168
yeah keep huffing scalefag
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>>378877363
You mean when they nerfed GP no less than 3 times?
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>>378859007
>Teams will have to pay 10 MILLIONS DOLLARS in order to be allowed to play starting next split

How fucking delusional have these guy gotten ? They really believe league will still be relevant in a decade
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>>378877576
Keep being a cuck as you drop the bitch after he gets nerfed.
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>>378877160
all that was broken
but fun
remember sunfire stacking evelynn
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>>378877498
They honestly need to be more strict if they want to be taken seriously as an e-sport, and they do. Bad sportsmanship should not be tolerated under any circumstance if you want legitimate sponsors like Coke.
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>>378877682
>Remember before they removed fun meme builds
Don't.
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>>378877759
>we should be fake ultra-pc faggot losers

just another reason why league of turdburglars is a dying game
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>>378877768
that was when I loved the game the most
granted it may have been because I just quit wow and was looking for a new time sink but I do generally believe the fun gimmick shit was much more fun albeit not all that balanced
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>>378877234
>Terrible scaling
>Can't fit in a single lane well
>Niche defenses

Gee, I wonder why people would ever play Galio over say, Maokai. Oh right.

They don't.
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>>378877682
remember double rewind Zilean with timebombs, which had 2xAP scaling
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>>378875545
Too bad for you it's doing just fine :)
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>>378877857
It's just the way business is done. Your feelings on it are irrelevant.
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>>378877667
might as well get as much as they can in the meantime
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>>378877682
>sunfure stacking
I remember my team was losing hard once, all of out towers but the ones at our base were down and we were getting fucked. Our Amume sold all of his items and bought sunfires, no boots. He started pinging madly at mid lane and we all followed. He flashes into the middle of the enemy team and ults and they get fucking destroyed by slow sunfire mummy. I miss shit like that.
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>>378877975
gl with driving away the people that make your game alive
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>>378877667
Where did you hear that? If they're legitimately doing that, its retarded, but i guess they're getting cocky after Blizzard announced a spot in the Overwatch league would be $12 million a team.
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>>378877935
DPS Maokai was da bomb tho
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>>378859007
It all went to shit at the same pre-season of the Graves rework.
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>>378878075
Maokai period is the bomb because he has insane sustain and two hardCCs in his kit.
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>>378878047
Yeah. League has been doing so poorly since Dunkey got banned and quit. He also clearly spoke for the largest demographic of the game, which are attractive normalfags with jobs and lives.
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>>378877682
>>378877985
I used to buy only sunfires/speed boots on Garen and win everytime
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>>378877857
people literally play mobas to talk shit
getting banned for hurting some butthurt niggers feeling ruined the game
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>>378877481
First, you shouldn't first pick Aatrox at all, you should pick him against tanks to get a free lane and get to his core items quickly.

Second, Fiora can outduel fucking anyone, how is that a fair comparison? She'll get nerfs eventually. Irelia I dunno.

Third, Fiora vs Aatrox is a skill matchup,

https://las.op.gg/summoner/userName=xXxG0dK1773rxXx

Here you can see how many Fiora's I've beaten in lane in my ironic smurf. The better player wins. Aatrox doesn't have to be a better Fiora or Irelia, he can just push and actually do better at teamfights because his Q can make some nasty things.

>>378877554
He asked for a MOBA without lasthitting, HOTS doesn't have that.

>>378877581
The GP right now is not the same GP on release, what's the point? They nerfed all his numbers early game, he loses lane hard and losing lane means losing first turret gold plus herald plus more towers
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>>378878208
see >>378871639

unless riot pull some super amazing shit in the next year, it's completely over for them
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>>378878051
they are franchizing league, team have to share revenues from their sponsors and pay 10 millions dollars to get a spot on the lcs, but they is no relegation anymore so they're can't get kicked out
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>>378878197
But do you remember 1xPhantom 5xTiamat Malphite?
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>>378878245
wow dude you're right, these sick ass lvl 23 games really reflect the intricacies of aatrox gameplay
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>>378871639
I watched RuneScape die and I felt sad.
I am watching league die and I feel joy.
Are games worse now, or am I just cynical?
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>>378877667
are you french?
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>>378878430
If I had a (you) for everytime someone posted a graph like that about literally anything they didn't like, I wouldn't need to shitpost in consolewar threads.

I don't even like League, but these threads are clearly falseflagging to garner interest in the upcoming Summer Split, and you people are fucking retarded.
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>>378878245
>B-But I smurfed as Aatrox, I will win against anyone.

You'll lose your lane against Maokai, Darius and Any other tank worth their salt because they'll go sunfire+boots and fuck you over.

Aatrox after the rework doesn't do amazing level 1 damage, Hell, he'll still get rolled over by Tryndamere or Riven.

Being an "AUTO ATTACK" based Champion with no Crit mechanic or bonus damage besides BASE damage, which is an amazing 60. Lower than maokai's.

Want to know how retarded a maokai/Aatrox matchip is?

Maokai will literally do the same Auto attack damage to you, AND knock you up at level 1, while his passive heals more than your W.
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>>378878742
Yes
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>krepo

https://imgur.com/a/0oNev
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>>378859007

before they fucked with mana regen items for casters
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>>378878742
league of legends is a particularly foul game made by disgusting leeches. it's called schadenfreude, a type of catharsis

>>378878897
not an argument. interest in league is waning severely and it's been a long time coming. a slow death.
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>>378878742
Well Runescape had good things in it like the quests on top of a pre-2007 community that had no fake nerds.

League felt like a dinky MMO at first and then became what is known as a MOBA and everything fell apart at around when Jinx came out.

So yes games are getting worse.
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>>378879167
Actually.. yeah. Precedents of similar graphs being posted about Nintendo, Microsoft, Sony, etc. that ended up not mattering are an argument.
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>>378861454
you are so edgy i agree 12 btw
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>>378879301
[citation needed]
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the golden age was back before riot starting trying to shove the meta down peoples throats. adc sion, caster/tank sion, bruiser sion. Fun stuff.

Before the twitch rework and before casters got over the top bursty.
I used to be able to go mid with twitch and be able to beat any caster (except maybe leblanc) by going full crit runes and buying the 400 gold crit starting item. twitch had the strongest ult in the game, i dont think there are any ults in the game even now that had the same damage potential as twitches ult had. then they nerfed his ult hard by making item changes (particularly to tiamat)
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>>378859007
>League is slowly, but surely dying
I'd say the golden age is right now
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>>378877180
If turn rates are fun and engaging gameplay, then we're all in for a fucking ride, folks.
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>>378879773
viewer counts has not been increasing for a few years. It's stagnating
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>>378879958
You're pretty hopeless if you can't understand why turn rates and animations are a good thing.
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7 hours per day spent into this cancer
jesus christ thank god i got a 20 min ban last time i played was 6 months ago man i feel better than ever leaving this shithole
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>yfw dota 2 will actually overtake league in general interest soon
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>S3
>L-league is dying
>S4
>L-league is dying
>S5
>L-league is dying
>S6
>L-league is dying
God damn I hate assfaggots as much as anyone but you're all fucking delusional if you think it's "dying" when they just announced 10 million dollar buy ins for teams to get in their pro league
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>>378881096
wow people really care about league esports

the same stale meta with the same boring casters making the same overhype comments about the same dull plays so they can win the same tiny prize pool
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League has been "slowly dying" and there's been "no doubt about it" since 2011. It was proclaimed dead even before the reveal of Dota 2's beta, yet it's still around. Get a grip you fucking retards.
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>>378859007
>Dying
>The game with most players is the world
Wat
Golden age was Season 3. It was perfect. Then just OP broken shit, boring tank meta, same old champs, etc.
It was more fun when everyone was a noob and nobody tryharded.
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>>378881247
It is almost like with normal sports. Crazy right?
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>>378881579
>>378881581
wow 2 new posters added to the post count with these posts

/v/ really likes desperately defending league of legends today!
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It never had a golden age, the game always has been and always will be lowest common denominator garbage.
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>>378881247
You think any of those players give a fuck about winning a prize pool? They just tripled the player's base salary to 75k and that's just paid out by Riot themselves so it doesn't include team contract and sponsorship stuff plus their fucking streams.
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Dying but still has more players that dota 2
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>>378882125
lmao so even less impetus to even bother trying in their sham tournaments?
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>>378882232
according to riot sources league of legends has a billion trillion players
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The only MOBA I ever loved.
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>>378882389
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>>378882669
im angry you made me remember cho gath and all the fun i had with him
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>>378882669
>There was a point when Riot decided to let every tank build sustain, with a 5g/10second items.

This game was so broken, even back then. Best time was pre-season 3 cleaver meta
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>>378866648
WISH WE COULD TURN BACK TIME
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>>378882456
god bless
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>>378882389
HOLY SHIT I JUST REMEMBERED
PANTHEON EXISTS I COMPLETELY FORGOT
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>>378878742
Runescape died all at once due to the poor response to an actual issue (addressing RMT with trade restrictions and no wild), it was a fun little game that everyone liked that lost its charm through no real fault of its own.

Riot killed their game by selling out to esports fags and actively refusing to balance champions to control their metagame. Riot deserves to die off.
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>>378882669
>Heart of gold and philosopher's stone

Holy fuck it's all coming back. This game was a fucking mess at all times.
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>>378882236
Competitive LoL is just a reality tv show featuring your favorite streamers, it doesn't have the depth to be truly good competition.
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>>378884583
>Riot killed their game by selling out to esports fags

No, it didn't die. At all. League is naturally a competitive game why don't you play something that's more casual than League?
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>>378859007
Closed beta. It was all downhill from there.
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>>378884040
>tfw you're a Pantheon main
I don't understand how people can't outplay the fuck out of him. He has an incredible early game but just stay out of the range of his Q. Or get someone with good burst damage. It's also easy to get cocky and be caught under tower as Pantheon. Why does no one remember he exists? He's more deserving of the "default champion" title than Ashe is.
>>
Season 2. Everyone could jungle. Thank god this game is dying.
>>378884991
Because only dumb third worlders who watch twitch play league. Pantheon isn't popular so they don't know how to deal with him.
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>>378860789
This, i did the same
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>>378879129
>How old were you again?
My fucking sides.
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>>378884583
>>378884820
is that why it's balanced at the lowest common denominator?
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>>378885697
OOOOHHHHHHHH GOTEM TEAM GOTEM AHAHAH REKT
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>>378879129
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>>378885697
But it isn't. That's why NA playerbase is dropping
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LoL is the most reddit game to ever exist

Prove me wrong
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See, the thing about LoL is that it came out in the best time possible, the only competitor being Dota2 (and then a ton of other mobas, but mainly dota), and few to no people would move to dota 2 cause difficulty.

It was sort of a MOBA monopoly, people would join LoL and invite a shitload of their friends, and none would switch to any other moba because their friends would be there.

Riot knew their audience and didnt even try to change the meta, we get the same stale thing just so newcomers can get the hang out of it quickly, but now that more competitors are arriving, people are starting to get bored and either quit or go to other mobas. You want something more competitive? You go Dota2, you want something easier/more fun? HotS, Wanna take it into 3D? Smite. Is your PC not a toaster? Paragon.

League is slowly declining, and Riot has to do something not to get new players (because, 90% of their playerbase is via friend reccomendation), but to keep those already invested in the game.
>>
maybe if they didnt ban their passionate trash talker population, i.e people who actually stick around like dunkey, their game would be alive

what goes around comes around I guess
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>>378871286
Your analogy is stupid because Dota is worse than league. FACTS
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>>378888734
never forget support singed w/smite
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>>378861309
Diamond level Singed main here.

That's not really true. You just need to know your matchups really well, when to pick him and how to itemize properly. Most people are retarded with Singed and assume you must proxy constantly during laning which is not something you should do.

Singed is one of the best pushers in the game, is hard to kill and also has really strong peeling and zone control. He's honestly a really good pick imo if you're not retarded with him.
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How can you possibly take a competitive game seriously when you can get banned for playing something that isn't meta?
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>tfw SC2 peaked at launch

damn shame
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>>378871212
>Why did you get banned?
Apparently for flaming. People playing this game are soo thin skinned.
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>>378859007
It wasn't a golden age, but Burning Tides was actually really good. It was a very creative event that happened when the game was in one of the most balanced states it had ever been.
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>>378879129
How stupid is he?
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>>378868561

Compared to 2016 around the same time

NA: ~1,500,000 people ranked

EUW: ~2,400,000 people ranked

KR: ~2,700,000 people ranked

LoL player numbers in NA are plummeting
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>>378859007
>The game is dying because me and my small group of friends quit!

It's unironically bigger than ever.
>>
>>378859007
>when was the golden age of LoL?

Pre-Ghostcrawler.
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>>378862673
This. Arena games will have a revival. Quake, unreal tournament etc. there's no use for mobas really anymore, unless you make a cool theme with cool characters to boot
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>>378870709

Go fuck yourself, Singed is by far the most unique character in the game, and one of the few things LoL didn't copy from Dota.
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>>378890220
Not in a relevant country.
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>>378880717
>Overwatch
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>>378859007
It's not dying, and everybody knows even though /v/ will never accept it
>>
Haven't played ever since the clusterfuck that was the Mordekaiser rework.

Remember when he became pick/ban for a single tournament right after release because of how busted his new design is, to the point he had to be gutted into an even weaker state than pre-rework?

Thanks, CertainlyT.
>>
>>378890929
lol i didnt even realize overwatch was so much more popular than league
>>
>>378888440
>the only competitor being Dota2 (and then a ton of other mobas, but mainly dota)
Don't forget dota2 was still in beta and it still took fucking forever to get a key if you wanted one

Beta hell allowed League of legends to happen
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>>378875898
twitch shilling
>>
>>378877363
>And it worked,
It didn't work, he's still OP in high elo soloq and an alright LCS pick
>Tobias Fate, the man in the video, stopped playing him is because GP fucking sucks monkey dick early game
Tobias fate is a retard. The reason he gets shit on early is because he takes thunderlord's. Korean GPs far better than him go grasp now.
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>>378890897
>Americucks thinking the world revolves around them

You leaders have gone from a literal baboon to a figurative one who acts like an even bigger ape than the last one. Enjoy eating yourselves alive
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>>378893334
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>>378890669
Singed is basically a more interesting Bristleback though, they just swapped his ult with Alchemists.
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>>378880371
m..m..muh turn rates
lol go back to dota then, why are you even here
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>>378873116
when someone makes a mistake i'm gonna tell him simple as that
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>>378894560
Yeah but sometimes the "mistake" is your misjudgement or a disagreement that happens too fast to really be communicated.

Like, if I'm playing Dota as Lina or something and my teammate gets pissy because I choose to let him die for nothing instead of both of us dying so we can get one kill when the enemy is a character that benefits way more from kills but he's still pissy because it makes him look bad.
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>>378894560
>someone falls off his bike
>LOL U FELL FROM UR BIKE
Why dont you let them realize what they just did wrong? If anything, just encourage them on positive things, makes team's morale go up in general.
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>>378894906
>>378895393
we get it you're redditors who were bullied in school and think it's acceptable to ban people for talking shit

it's gonna sting when democrats lose every time from here on out until you change your totalitarian stance on things ;)
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>>378890929
>Using search terms as sources

Are you retarded?
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>>378876290
>saying this when HotS exists
>>
Is veigar good yet
>>
>>378859007
>League
>slowly, but surely dying
Isn't that the exact same thing everyone's been saying about WoW for 10 years?
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>>378889812
I wonder how much this can be blamed on that server migration. It benefited me since I went from 90 to 30 ping but if it was the other way around I would've been so pissed.
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>>378895886
Idgaf what people say it's just annoying to have some fuckwad get mad at your "mistake" because you won't dive crystal maiden when Medusa is there to pick up the kill if you do.
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>>378895393
when you tell your mates 10 times "don't overextend/go drake" one day they will realize that maybe the choices they make are bad.
it's called helping, not being toxic
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>>378897982
>im bad i make a lot of mistakes please dont tell me how much i suck
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>>378859007
Season 2-3 I think
Whenever OG Moscow 5/ Gambit Gaming was still around.
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>>378859007
Golden age were seasons 1 - 3. Season 4 is when it started going down hill. that's when they started having certain champions be good "just because" it's also when they started homogenizing kits and making the game even more on-rails.

i play dota 2 these days and couldn't be happier. i still hate how long matches take, but that's a drawback i'm willing to take rather than play on on-rails shit like LoL
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>>378899019
Obviously if you're saying it like that it'd be great, but most of the time that """"help"""" ends up being
>OMFG THIS JG
>report (Team mate with most deaths)
>/all at least u guys have good adc
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>>378897367
All games that are past their growth stage are dying a slow death. Emphasis on slow.
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>>378873554
Man, I've been waiting. I hope the Rising Thunder robots somehow make it in as guest characters.
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>>378875898
It's actually fun and also shilling
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>>378877682
DFG Eve was most fun.

DFG > Ult and 1v4 the enemy team.
Sucked to play adc back then.
>>
league will die on season 14
you heard it here first folks
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>>378861989
Season 2 was the end of the age of hyper god ADCs and making sure they were fed as fuck so they could carry everyones sorry ass to victory. Then they got hit by the nerfbat so hard ADCs have been irrelevant until even today.
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>>378900181
Than Contrarian hipsters on /v/ will start sucking Riot's cock yet again.

And then it becomes popular again, and the Contrarians will jump on some other unheard of MOBA game, rinse and repeat.
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>>378900181
>>378900737
you are so smart xD upboated
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>>378901049
It's fucking true though. TF2 is suddenly loved by /v/ once Overcuck became popular. It's quite a fucking joke fest honestly.

These young kids think they're so unique with their vast array of video game knowledge and taste. "Herp derp, it's 2popular4me going to play something else!11 xD"
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>>378897301

Veigar has been good, you degenerate. That's coming from a guy who's mained him since Season 2.

He's BEYOND easy to get snowball ass fed as. Go Dorans>cdr book>Morellos>Farm your ass off>Mobi boots>Go bottom>Obtain double kill for free nearly every game>Depending on match-up get Void Staff for more damage or Abyssal for more defense against your lane opponent>Win from there with your incredibly stupid hyper mobility with Mobi's>Build whatever the fuck you want

Personally I take either full M.pen runes or AP depending on the matchup. Veigar scales REALLY well with CDR too. His ult is up every about 52 seconds near endgame, which is pretty much usable twice during a teamfight.
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>>378859007
Late 2010-2012. And by 2012 it was already showing signs of serious issues, but back then everyone was cock-sure Riot is going to fix those.
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>>378902609
it all went downhill when they stopped sunfire aoe from stacking
mummy died that day
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>>378859007
I want to fuck Sejuani
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>>378889334
In other words you went into an autistic rage and people got annoyed by your shit
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>>378859007
Beta / early launch at 2009 - 2010 when it was a small time game competing with HoN
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