What degree should I aim for if I want to develop video

Medicine, so people who make games can live longer

You don't really need any specific degree unless you want to be some minor cog in a 1000 man team working for Ubisoft or EA or some shitty job like that.

Having made a game and having sold a game is going to get you a job in a way no degree or minor industry experience will. If you can point to X indie game on steam that sold 10,000 copies and say I made that, basically anyone will hire you.

Saying I have a computer science degree with experience with C++ and Java and I worked as a tester for Activision for 3 years will get you laughed out of the building.

>>378844163
Probably CS if you're really dead set on a degree, but the best way to learn to make videogames is to make videogames. Any sort of CS or math you don't know youll learn along the way as you encounter obstacles requiring those skills.

>>378844163
>artfags trying to make their "how do you feel about this, what feelings does it invoke in you" bullshit more important and useful than it really is

Don't unless you want to be an expendable code/art/write/etc monkey. If you actually want a career you need to start making things now. Portfolio uber alles.

But if you can make games from scratch why would you want to be hired then?

>>378844163
Computer Science, IT is also acceptable if you want to work for a company doing MMOs or hosts their own multiplayer servers.

>>378845261
>Make a regular monthly salary + employer benefits regardless if the game sells or not
vs
>Work for five years straight making a game and hope when it hits steam people actually buy it so I can make some money and not starve

If you're a 23 year old virgin living with your parents the idea of working for yourself is a lot more enticing than if you're 32, having a wife and kids, two cars, a mortgage, insurance, bills, and taxes to pay.

>>378845640
>Make a regular monthly salary + employer benefits regardless if the game sells or not
>if you're 32, having a wife and kids, two cars, a mortgage, insurance, bills, and taxes to pay.
Video games seems like a bad field to pursue this kind of life though.

I'd say that doing what you dreamt of doing for living more often than not kills the passion for it. Better learn to do something that pays off well and make vidya as hobby.

>>378845823
>Video games seems like a bad field to pursue this kind of life though.
Only if you're a lone wolf working for yourself.

>>378844163
make an indie game/join an indie dev

otherwise you're going to get fired once they release a game with any big game company, not sustainable or secure

>>378845979
And if you're working for a large company you end up doing things that seem quite trivial in the long run and the work of passion gradually devolves into regular job for living.

>>378846106
What does that have to do with anything?

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if you actually want to make games there are a shit load of online tutorials for basic languages out there that are far superior to univeristy classes... then, you need to use those skills to try to emulate something about a favorite game of yours... so like, if you're an RTS fan try to make a basic version of WC2, no matter how shit it is. try to copy it like 1:1. you'll start to see limitations in how you think, then you can allocate your subsequent learning to those areas so that you're not a deficient coder/thinker when it comes to programming in a holistic sense.

video game "education" is a meme and is really only there to instill SJW ideas into people too lazy to do what i stated above. being an indie dev is REALLY the only way to make actual games anymore.

>>378845091
>engineeringfag mad he got a degree in an oversaturated field

>>378846286
>Artfag mad he's flipping burgers

>>378846719
at least i have a job and didnt get out-competed by pajeet

>>378846286
>>378846719
>>378846809
in the end we're all still wageslaves, fuck off with this pedantic argument and go learn another language or find a cute girl to sleep with before we all inevitably develop terminal illnesses and die

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>>378846809
You are thinking code monkeys not actual engineers, besides do you know how much companies pay to get pajeet code fixed?

>>378846809
I too have a job and am not out-competed by a pajeet. Unlike you, I have upward movement in my field. I mean, I guess you can move to to McDonald's evening manager, but that's about it

>>378846719
Good artists are generally in higher demand than engineers now that most jobs are outsourced to india. Better pay, and more job security. Just admit it anon, you chose the wrong path.

>>378846979
Good artists are few and far between. I did not choose the wrong path, if that helps you sleep at night then that's up to you. Next time I drive through your window I'll be sure to give you an extra tip for being such a creative little snowflake

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>>378844163
>artstards trying to fit in with STEM to try to pretend to be intelligent
They're not even remotely similar

>>378844163
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TzKyYKnVjqM

>Liberal Arts Fags getting defensive

Kek. Never gets old.

>>378847216
>I did not choose the wrong path
You did, you wouldn't be projecting so hard about your frustrations with your fast food job otherwise.

>>378844163
I'm convinced this pic is just bait.

i'm an artfag
art was the career choice i went for because i had nothing else.
if i wasn't so lazy earlier in life, i'd be doing engineering.
i plan to die at 40 in such a way that most of my vital organs can be preserved and donated.

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>>378844163
>Arts fags trying to weasel their way into STEM

>>378847583
You don't say.

STEM student: So what are you learning in kindergarten?
Kid: Shapes and colors.
STEM student: Wow good luck getting a job with that.

>>378847987
made me chuckle

>>378847987

Spot on.

so art faggots tell me if you were on a four-man team with one full-time coda and designer and two part-time coders and sound people and you were a full time or desire for an indie game how much of the cut would you expect?

Ignore punctuation phone to talk can't type right now

Women's studies

>>378848556
triggered much

>>378848556
The correct answer is "zero".

Is computer science really a meme degree?

I chose it basically to make money and I don't hate it, but so many people go on about how every day is difficult but "rewarding" and how they spend every waking moment of the day studying up on new technologies. I don't have time for that shit.

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>>378849567
find a way to make money from something you enjoy faggot

>>378849567
I wouldn't call any degree that pays well a "meme" degree, but I can't say you should go for it unless you enjoy working with computers all day.

>>378849567
Depends on where you live. I live in the pacific nw, and there's way more jobs available then there are people with degrees here.

>>378849929
I enjoy playing video games and shitposting. Now what?

>>378844163
what a load of hot air

>>378850035
Become a professional shitposter

>>378844232
/thread

>>378849929
That is the biggest meme.

>>378850035
>I enjoy playing video games and shitposting.
stop lying to yourself

>>378850035
Get a job as a shill

>>378850174
your whole life is nothing but a miserable pile of memes

>major in STEM
>work for most of your life on shit you'll get tired of after 2 years, make lots of money and have no time to spend it
what's the point?

>>378846106
>And if you're working for a large company you end up doing things that seem quite trivial in the long run and the work of passion gradually devolves into regular job for living.

nobody cares though
having a wife and family while working aabsolutely beats

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>>378850916

>>378846915
>learn another language or find a cute girl to sleep with
you meant
>learn another language and find a cute girl to sleep with
right?

>>378844232
medicine is for losers at this point, go for privatized sectors of healthcare

podiatry,dentistry, dermatology

they may be looked down upon but they have the best pay at the moment and you still help people and you wont be fucked by the ACA or shitty pathway to be a doctor

>>378844859

You must be fucking delusional if you think working for EA or Ubi is bad. You know the benefits they get just by being employees?

>>378851313

They have the best pay to competition ratio, I'll give you that

>>378851457
If you're hot shit at programming going to EA or Ubisoft would be a complete waste compared to working at some other tech giant

>>378844163
Computer Science.
Pretty much every successful studio demands a CS degree

> Be young idiot.
> Get degree in BA Hons Creative art (Video games).
> Finish with a good portfolio, better than most of my peers. A bit shit at drawing, but, make up for it with lots of 3D and animation.
> Country has 0 jobs. Foreign countries would rather outsource than bring people in.

So, anyway, I'm studying Mechanical Engineering now and making 3D models on the side to sell.

Video game art seemed like a useless degree whilst I was studying it. There was nothing which couldn't be self-taught, and all being computer based, there were no specialist equipment which could only be found in the university.

The few lessons I had on classical art had us working with live models, a published artist and a bunch of other shit.

Our "Game" lessons were with a fat guy who read 3DS Max Tutorials to us.

CS if you want a codemonkey career to fall back on incase you give up.
You can start learning how to make games right now.

>>378852000
>video game art
how could you fuck up so badly

>>378852083
I was 16, depressed and didn't have any other goals or aims in life.

My friends were doing it, and I didn't want to be alone.

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>>378844163
You don't need a degree for work in the game industry, you need to make games for work in the game industry.

>>378852252
>you need to make games for work in the game industry.

STOP IT ANON YOU'RE KILLING ME

>>378851930
>demands a CS degree
Not at all, what most developers want is experience in making games. A portfolio of your work will get you a job not a degree. They don't care what degree you have so long as you can make games and you can show you can make games by having done it in the past.

A CS degree will only help if you don't want to make anything and you're satisfied with low level grunt work and staying there your whole life. If you're trying to get into the video game industry do not waste your time/money on a CS degree.

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>>378852352
Face the reality faggot.

You are not learing C++, Art shit, or Maths and Physics because "Mhu videogames", you are just compensating the fact that you will never do your own game, since you are garbage low tier dingu dongo man or trap.

I'm sorry for you, but let it go.
If you have more than 18 years old, and still at UNI, with ZERO games in you portfolio, you better aiming to another profession an stay in peace with you "gaming hobby".

Just be an Engineer, a Doctor or an Astronaut, for fuck sake.

If you really wants to work in the Game Industry, start working on your fucking game, you dipshit.

>>378852739
waitwaitwaitwait

I didn't mean they should go get a degree.

It was a joke that making video games, and not office politics to suck off the CEO, gets games made.

>>378852739
I made over $3000 selling porn games I made in RPG maker and Ren'Py, will that get me a job?

>>378852548
>A portfolio of your work will get you a job not a degree

THIS THIS

>>378852946
post them and we'll judge their quality

>>378852946
>will that get me a job?

Wich one you are looking for ?

>>378853132
One that will pay me more than the $3000 a year that I'm currently getting making porn games in RPG maker and Ren'Py.

>>378852946
>>378853272
Are they good? Do they just cater to certain fetishes? Can you post them?

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>>378852939
You need 3 things for make, not only videogames, but "Things" in life:

>Time
>Obsession
>Money

But watch out for that other faggot

>Judge
>Economy
>Rage
>Relax
>Yourself

>>378853272
Living the dream