Why are the cutscenes so fucking long? And why are there so many

Nigga who cares, just skip them. Now shitty minigames, ebin set pieces and boring platforming are a problem since there's no skipping those.

Kamiya wanted to make a cinematic movie on par with Uncharted. And he succeeded.

just skip them then?

>>378830778
press Select+RT

>yfw Bayonetta has 1 hours worth more cutscenes than Uncharted

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_BZ8XUXdms

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hSBOBymYGBc

>>378831148
It could have 20 more hours of cutscenes and the only thing it'd negatively impact is the file size since they're all easily skippable

>>378831247

Or you know, the pacing and moments of gameplay.

>>378831396
They're segregated into individual distinct encounters so not really

>>378831396
>pacing and moments of gameplay.
lol

>>378830778
>Even DMC was nothing like this.
But that's wrong. Cutscenes in Bayo are made by the very same cinematic director.

>>378830989
kys

>>378831494

They weren't as long and tedious is the meaning.

>large focus on set pieces
>infinite and forgiving dodge
>QTE style executions
>yfw apart from tone, this game has more in common with God of War than Devil May Cry

>>378831582
Just skip them and watch the cutscenes in the last 2 levels since they explain everything to you anyway. This is such a non issue.

>>378831659
>infinite dodge
Retard.

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>>378831670

>just skip the cutscenes and read the story on wiki bro

>>378831724

Argue otherwise faggot. In DMC3/4 you're limited by both choice of style and the recovery animation after dodging. It takes upgrades to dodge three times consecutively, whereas you can dodge as many times as you like right off the bat in Bayo.

>>378831659
Tone, game structure, enemy design, combat depth and difficulty you mean

>>378831814
>In DMC3/4 you're limited by both choice of style and the recovery animation after dodging
Same with Bayo after the third dodge. Did you even play the game?

>>378831731
You find it tedious and story is never a main attraction in Platinum games so why not?

>>378831867

>game structure
again, set pieces.
>enemy design
is part of tone
>combat depth
hardly even touches the depth of DMC3.
>difficulty
lol. probably one of the easiest hack and slashes I've ever played.

>>378831969

For your info, I enjoyed the story in Anarchy Reigns, MGR and Nier Automata.

>>378831247
Because skipping content feels so good.

>>378831996
Pack it up guys it's just a 3babby

This entire thread is bait and if you post anything after reading this post then it's your fault.

>>378831996
Game structure as in the game being all about slowly building up your moveset and weapons for repeated playthroughs until you reach the highest difficulty mode where the games actually start being fun. Enemy design isn't part of tone, I mean mechanically. It's challenging enough on non stop infinite climax, certainly more so than DmC or GoW

>>378832136

>waah he doesn't like bayo he's a 3babby

I'm using a DMC3 as an example because it's by far the most extensive and accomplished in the genre. Would you prefer a different example?

>>378832225
>Game structure as in the game being all about slowly building up your moveset and weapons for repeated playthroughs until you reach the highest difficulty mode where the games actually start being fun.

You're literally describing all these types of games, even God of War.

>certainly more so than DmC or GoW
We're not talking about DmC here.

>>378832232
I would not because you're just here to fish for replies

>>378832076
It does if it's not content you enjoy. I fucking WISH I could skip half of the gimmick bullshit in Bayo and just play through the fights.

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>>378832225
>DmC
>mfw Bayonettafags think DmC=DMC

>>378832303

Well I'm sorry your ego is so fragile as to shut your ears every time your favourite video game is criticised. Feel free to leave, I'll feel free to continue taking a dump on Bayo.

Do Nintenbabbies honestly think Bayonetta is good just because it's the only hack and slash to ever grace their system?

>>378832290
Easiest hack n slash games would include DmC

>>378831996
lol

>>378832571

More challenging than the easiest hack and slash isn't an accomplishment. Challenging by itself should be the goal.

>>378832426
Anon you were already proven wrong at infinite dodge. It's obvious you're just baiting.

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>>378832485

NOO STOP BAYO IS THE BEST HACK AND SLASH GAME EVER MADE BETTER THAN DEVIL MAY CRY SHUT UP SHUT UP WHO CARES IF THE ACTUAL GAMEPLAY SEGMENTS ARE LIKE 6 HOURS IN TOTAL

>10 posters
you're pathetic op

>>378832626
Its in line with other Platinum games not sure what you're expecting

>>378832626
That's a horrifically plebeian viewpoint. Winnie the Pooh Home Run Derby is perfect for you.

This game felt like complete shit going into, after playing nothing but ninja gaiden black and 2 for 2 years. Those are the only action games i could ever get into. Bayonetta felt like there was no gravity and every encounter was a mini boss. DMC feels like youre fighting the camera as well as a character that feels like a tank holding a broom. What a shitty genre

>one guy replying to himself for 20 minutes thinking he's making people mad

>>378832664

It's basically infinite dodge when it ends at a high jump that leaves a large gap between you and your enemies. You can use that gap to then chain further dodges.

>>378832718
>What a shitty genre
It took you this long to realize?

>>378832751

The fact you keep replying makes it seem like you are in fact pretty mad.

>>378832718
Did you play through the higher difficulties? The encounters use tough enemies more often and the miniboss feel goes away almost completely.

>>378830778
okay, go play dmc 3 and masturbate over it like you want to. it's your life. no one's forcing you to play this, you ADHD baby. you're going to have a stroke when you get to the missile sequence if this is too much for you.

>>378832835
>have to play through normal to unlock hard in order to have fun
nah I'm good

>>378832759
Not really. I mean, I pretty much stopped playing these ever since NG3 came out and turned out to be a blunder. Haven't played NG2 since like 2015. At the height of my love for the genre, I got the DMC collection and 4 and Bayonetta for cheap on 360 and just could not get into any of them. Terrible fucking physics and cameras.

>>378832876
Pretty sure you can just download a save file

>>378832856
It's ADHD to dislike long and contrived cutscenes now? I guess you're a huge fan of Naughty Dog games.

>>378832887
terrible taste*

>>378832718
>>378832835
I don't get you guys. Shouldn't regular enemies feeling as tough as mini-bosses be more challenging?
Also, how does that feeling go away, when the game replaces them with even tougher enemies? Every fucking Gracious and Glorious encounter is like a boss on its own.

>>378832876
This is an actual legitimate complaint. Everything else you've said is bullshit.

>>378832981
Its hard to describe why Im not a fan of the feeling but it has nothing to do with difficulty. Just feels like the game doesn't let you spend enough time fighting the enemies before discarding them.

>>378832994
i don't even know who you're talking to

>>378833057
Really? I felt the opposite. Wish the game had more enemy variety.

>>378832981
They should hit hard but hitting the same thing for a minute every encounter is boring

>>378830778
Bayonetta thread?
>Favorite weapons
>Favorite accessories
>Favorite outfits
Sai fung/bazillions
Rosary/moon
Cutie J

>>378833117
I mean, Gracious and Glorious appeared once on normal mode

>>378833057

You mean they die quicker than you can experiment combos on them?

>>378833168
I don't want to be that guy, but, honestly, you should probably just git gud before making such posts.

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>Get every single Achievement
>Suddenly lose all interest to play

I was so fucking stoked to get more Pure Platinums but now I just don't care. Infinite Climax was such bullshit anyways. I feel like Witch Time is an essential part about "fair" gameplay for Bayo. Any thoughts aside git gud?
>tfw you Pure Plat a Gracious & Glorious fight

>>378833235
Yeah, i have 1250/1250 on ninja gaiden 2, but i should le get guuuud xD...

Just kill yourself, stupid virginal weeaboo

>doing reasonably well in first few chapters
>get to chapter 8/9
>stone, stone, stone

Oh well. I know I'm not very good anyway. At least this time round I'm close to finishing the thing instead of giving up like last time.

>>378833243
Did you finish Angel Slayer? Did you beat the game as Jeanne on all difficulties?

>>378833215
>Favorite weapons
Shuraba/Kilgore
>Favorite accessories
Malaa Kalaa + Eternal Rosary or Gaze of Despair
>Favorite outfits
D'Arc (tfw no Jeanne mode with Bayonetta's mechanics.

I hate this giraffe looking bitch

>>378833279
>>>/reddit/

no one cares about your dead franchise

>>378833279
The fuck does NG have to do with getting good at a completely different game?

>>378833337

I forgot about Angel Slayer. I started Jeanne mode but I still need to get a hang of Bat Within. The window is really tricky especially when you need it for some of the Alfheims. I just keep getting triggered with the camera sometimes and some of the shittier moments in the game like the fucking turret section and a random encounter here and there.

>>378833218
True, they even didn't have a proper introduction like the other angels. That's due to the devs running out of time. Plenty of content had to be cut before release. Unfortunately it's a common story in gamedev.
But as others already pointed out in this thread, you fight more of those on the higher difficulties. I was actually surprised that game changes up some enemy encounters on Hard and NSIC. You rarely see consecutive playthroughs bringing any significant changes in games.
Most Platinum games are supposed to be played through multiple times, beating your best scores, getting better awards etc. So, Gracious and Glorious only appear once if you only play the game once on Normal mode yourself. If you played it to the end (Hard+NSIC) you wouldn't have thought they were too rare.

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>its an autistic dmc/ng fanboy gets upset because their series is dead and bayo is more relevant now episode

>>378833393
>>>>neogaf

>>378833432
Because they are compatible games where some skills can carry over

Only thing is that, bayoshitta and devil may shit aren't worth learning because they feel terrible to play and have bad cameras. If i wanted to hit a sack of potatoes with a marshmellow sword, i would do that in my backyard

>>378833508
I know, Im the guy that said the feeling disappears on the higher difficulty modes

>>378830778
What the fuck. The cutscenes aren't even that long.
I bet you don't even play RPGs.

>>378833687
Kill yourself.

>>378833513

>relevant

I don't see Bayo 3 anywhere.

>>378833775

>cutscenes aren't that long
>11 hour game, 2.5 hour cutscenes

And RPGs can get away with long cutscenes because they require exposition. Bayonetta isn't a fucking RPG. But even then a game like Witcher 3 had shorter cutscenes than Bayo.

>>378833874
Bayo 3 will definitely come out before DMC5 and Ninja Gaiden 4.

>>378833937
But what's wrong with an ARPG having a story?
Just skip them if you're a fag who can't sit still.

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what did he mean by this?

>>378834064
Reading comprehension nigger. It's not the story that's the problem, it's the ass long cutscenes.

>>378834068
She fucks her students.

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>>378831814
>It takes upgrades to dodge three times consecutively
You're confusing Nero's table hopper with actual dodge, you ignorant child.

> In DMC3/4 you're limited by both choice of style and the recovery animation after dodging
Lel dodging is not part of any style. You might have known this if you played past 1st level of DMC4.

>>378830778
You can skip then, mongoloid

>>378836025

You an idiot? Dodging is only possible with trickster style. And you need to upgrade to dodge more than once.

>all these DMC posts

bayonettamaycry genre when?

>>378830778
Platinum thought too much action would turn off trumpistanis.