Why does tifa love cloud? Is it even love? Her entire childhood

Because Aeris started showing interest in him, don't you know anything about women
Inb4 >/v/ knowing anything about women

>>378800719
Poor writing.

>>378800913
Fucking this.

>>378800913
Sadly this. Women look into themselves, men look into others.

She didn't even notice his strengths and wanted to plow solely because someone else was making him look good. They compete with each other, he was just the prize.

>>378800913
>>378801053
>>378801465
>>378802645
You're all dumbasses who either never beat the game or didn't pay attention

>>378802645
>his strengths
>implying Cloud is anything more than a lifelong loser. Zak clone, and Sephiroth wannabe

Cloud is trash. He couldn't even get into Soldier

>>378800719
Guilt and pity but it seems to grow into love later in the story. The shit with Johnny is just a meme he was there with his wife and she was the one in the shower.

>>378800913
So the entire point of aeris was to make tifa like cloud?

Nothing more shitty than corny romances

>>378800719
She probably thought of Cloud as a good friend during childhood and all the shit they go through together probably just makes her realize she loves him. I think Tifa would have stepped off Cloud if him and Aeris(th) really wanted to hit it off because she cares about Cloud.

>>378800719

she's just friends with that guy. they didn't do anything. she just wanted to talk to her childhood friend.

>>378802814
This

Tifa is fucking /r9k/ incarnate, I can't even think of a more beta female character in a video game

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>>378800719
>went to the bedroom with johnny and told cloud to leave them alone.

Back then I thought nothing of it and thought of it as two old friends catching up. But now that NTR has poisoned my mind it's all I can think about. The setup is perfect and she literally tells Cloud to fuck off and to leave her alone with this guy in a bedroom at night. Said guy also had a thing for her.

>>378805663
Riiiiiiight
Tifa a slut
Aerith a prostitute
FF7 is a cuck game

>>378800719
Poor translation. Tifa being left with Johnny served no purpose other than so Tifa could be out of the party.

>>378800719
Not so much that she loved him, more that she loved the idea of him becoming SOLDIER and being able to protect her, and thought that they were closer than they really were in their childhood (she didn't remember it very well either, if you watch the Cloud's Subconscious scene again). But by the Under the Highwind scene it seems like she does think of him more in a romantic sense.

>>378800913
They even programmed this into the game.
>be nice to Tifa
>Aeris' affection value goes up
>be nice to Aeris
>Tifa's affection value goes down

>>378805856
Johnny is in the friend zone anon.

>>378805663
Keep telling yourself that.

>>378805884
why does anyone want this remade over VI again?

>>378805663
It thought it was canon that they fucked in the last part of the game.

>>378805856
It was made by the japs who made the NTR poison for you.

>>378802931
>cloud kills god and saves the Planet
>still gets people saying he's a shit character

>>378806026
Fan favorite. Not that VI isn't a fan favorite, but that VII is more visible/has been milked in other installments and makes an easy cash-in due to nostalgia.

>>378805856

She probably wanted to talk to him about how weird and crazy Cloud was being because he had memories of the Nibelheim incident which to Tifa's knowledge he wasn't there for.

>>378805856
He used to have a one sided crush on Tifa but he was permanently freindzoned. Johnny had a girlfriend by that point anyway and even proposed to her later on. You've been reading one too many NTR doujins anon.

>>378802931

Doesn't he seriously wound Sephiroth in the reactor even though he's a normal grunt?

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>>378805856
If you want real NTR from this series, look no further than pic related.

>>378805856
>>378805884
>>378806010

Honestly these posts might be bait but I think there's a bunch of people who forget that Final Fantasy is made to be played by young teenagers and up, the plot is always simple and character interactions are usually made explicitly obvious.

Tifa didn't LE NTR KEK Cloud because it would make literally zero sense and no other thing in the game is like that. Maybe if the game was say rated M, had actually real and fucked up things going on, like relationships going south, men cheating on women, and vice versa, rape and Tifa perhaps having mixed feelings on the entire thing, having actual feelings towards the night with Johnny if they had sex.

Basically you guys are the same fags who look into Bowser and Princess Peach and go "WOW MARIO LE KEK NTR"

I can't believe I share a board with these people.

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Superior ship

Best girl tier list:
Priscilla
POWER GAP
Elena
Yuffie
Scarlet
Tifa
Jessie
POWER GAP
Lucrecia
Aerith

>>378806885
It isn't NTR because they aren't dating. They're just friends, at least in that part of the game. Arguably all of it? She is her own woman and she wants to bang Johnny. Go away, Cloud.

>>378806885
It's no use, it's just the NTR fetishists are out as usual.

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>>378806874
>Vincent got literally cucked to death by this guy

>>378806026
We want a viii remake.

>>378806502
Cloud, as a level 1 grunt, gets stabbed through the chest and bodily lifted off the ground.

He then says "fuck that noise", swings himself back unto the ground, overpowers Sephiroth's attempts to loose his sword, picks up the level 50 legendary soldier, and tosses his ass across a large room, smashing him into a wall and sending him into the lifestream

>>378806874
Wow that was much worse than I remembered. Jesus.

>>378805856
Even assuming it is what you're making it out to be, could it even be considered cucking when Aeris is around and eagerly wanting Cloud to take her to the bone zone?

>>378807714

Did he not stab him too, or was that Zack? I remember Sephiroth being stabbed by the absurdly large buster sword through the chest.

>>378807714
That's why it's important to do your squats

>>378807902
nigga how do you get stabbed by the buster sword and not be in two pieces

>>378807970

I wondered that at the time. The sword is nearly as thick as his torso in the original game. Oh, and he was stabbed horizontally, not vertically, IIRC.

>>378807970
Vertically, if you aren't a manlet then your torso is longer than the blade is wide

>>378805856
I'm pretty sure this scene is exactly meant to evoke the thought of NTR even though we know better later on.

>>378806502
the pre emptive materia in the buster sword worked wonders for him

>>378808393
Was there actually one in the sword?
Fuck now I feel like I should replay this

>>378807024
>Jessie not first
Love yourself, anon

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Tifa is a part of a love triangle between Cloud, Aeris, and Tifa. There's no NTR because if there was, it would have actually been with someone that affected something not just been a one off thing with friends catching up. ALSO, WHO LEAVES A DOOR UNLOCKED IF THEY'RE FUCKING???!?

Plus Johnny had his own life or something.

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>>378808617

>>378807902
Yes, Cloud stabs him in the lower back with the Buster sword.

>>378808393
Deepest lore.

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>>378808393
>>378808848

>>378805856
Don't forget that tifa was the town bike.

>>378808848

I never made that connection.

>>378807902
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ih7s1e55tZI
16:00 minutes in

>>378808774
I'd have put Jessie up top, but her strong points fell a little flat.

So with Jenova herself dead, once Cloud Shelke, Genesis, and Weiss die, she'll be gone for good?

>>378809387
Well she fucking died early on in the game.

>>378800913
>an anon that's actually redpilled about women
>on /v/ no less

Never thought I'd see the day.

>>378800719
Because Tifa was broken and lonely after Nibelheim. Cloud, as nutty as he was, was her only connection to her past. So she attached herself to him because she's insecure and broken.

FF7 is just a group of broken battered people leaning on each other.

>>378809862
I always thought shelke was immortal for some reason since she didnt age but immortality is never mentioned so I guess it was just assumption

Also its unknown if the end of AC cleared her funk out of lifestream

>>378810257
She's still best girl.

>>378810436
One of many things I hated about Advent Children, they really didn't give too much closure to whether Sephiroth and Jenova can keep returning

>>378810680
Im like 99.75% sure that was intentional
money can make people do some retarded shit

>>378800719
Actually, in Denzel's novel, it was revealed that Johnny was in trouble and needed help from Tifa. She gave him money from selling her bar. He was able to escape and start a new life, even opening his own bar, which he named "Tifa's Heaven" in honor of her. Really.

>>378805856
Tifa has to tell the guy off. He is obviously depressed in the scene.

Does this scene even happen if Tifa is in your party?

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Is pick related the worst FF character/protagonist to date? He's like the most generic shonen hero dude ever.

>>378805856

you need to stop consuming NTR and cuck shit anon good god, she was talking to him about Nibelheim and Clouds memories of it not fucking his brains out

what is wrong with you people?

>>378811349
He was more interesting than boring as fuck Cloud.

Tidus is the best FF protag though

>>378811612
What's interesting about him? He's just a dumb nice guy.

>>378811528
Stage of one of denial

A man and women staying in one room while telling another guy to piss off says a lot

>>378811612

>Cloud is boring
>Tidus is the best

I defend FFX on this board and all but really? Cloud is uninteresting but Tidus is the absolute best?

sheesh

>>378811528
Isn't this about the point where she starts thinking that he might not even be the Cloud she knew as a kid?

>>378811349
Yes. Even worse is that retards think he's one of the best characters. Like this faggot >>378811612

>>378811349
They intentionally writed him like that. Do you remember the guy that you rol modeled in your childhood? That's how Zack supposed to be for Cloud.

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>>378811708

>stage of one of denial

Learn how to type properly. Secondly, you're projecting your fetish onto a video game with zero evidence for your claims. Stop. You NTR posters are the most pathetic bunch on this entire site.

>>378811887
>they made him shit on purpose
woah

>>378811760
Tidus is actually engaging with his cast unlike that broody motherfucker

>>378805934
>she didn't remember it very well either, if you watch the Cloud's Subconscious scene again


Bitch has some serious PTSD

>>378807714
Reminder that the Last Order OVA showed the best version of this scene because the rest look fucking retarded.

>>378811349
The best description I've ever heard for Cloud and Zack is that for most of the story Cloud is a complete dork trying to act like a badass super soldier. The problem is that his model for "badass super soldier" was another complete dork trying to act like a badass super soldier.

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>>378811791

She meant that he had changed so much that he's barely himself anymore.

It's like that Modest Mouse song Pups to Dust where the singer says "We remain the same (I'm not sure about that) ,Or pretty much the same (Now that's more like it) ,From birth to grave, I couldn't see so clearly what I was or became"

Generally speaking, people change but retain a sense of self over the years despite this. Cloud seemed too different, probably because of everything that happened to him, but yeah you get the point.

>>378811760
Not that anon but Tidus is up there for how much he grows as a character during 10, Balthier is the best leading man though

>>378811918
Not even a fetish, shit is common knowledge, she wanted him to go so she can get down and dirty. If they wanted to "talk" could have been outside the bedroom, no need to stay in there unless something going down.

>>378812121
So he is a Cloud clone but without all the things that makes Cloud interesting? CC was a mistake.

>>378812043

>broody

He's not even broody until after the first visit to the Northern Crater, and after he recovers he isn't until Advent Children

I really wish you Cloud haters would pay attention or play the game instead of shitposting.

>>378811349
What's wrong with him? Both he and Cloud are great though I prefer Cloud personally

>>378808393
holy shit

>>378812045
So does Cloud.

>>378810992
So tifa is an alcoholic?

>>378812386
That Zack doesn't grow as a character, doesn't have any other traits than being a generic nice guy that cares about his friends and always tries his bestest!

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>>378812286

>my borderline insanity is common knowledge

In what world? Grats for getting me to reply so much but seriously anon you're a piece of work. Sometimes you shoo someone out of the room if you're about to talk about them. They weren't going to have sex and even if they were, you could still hear it downstairs so it'd be pointless to shoo him may as well make him watch.

You can't actually come up with a logical basis for your claims so kindly shut the fuck up and go jack off like the pathetic cuck you are in another thread.

>>378811349
i like him because i didnt play crisis core

>>378812480
Yes, but I think it's an understatement in his case.

>>378812513
How the fuck did you come to that conclusion?

>>378812582
>In what world?

Outside your NEET basement.

>Sometimes you shoo someone out of the room if you're about to talk about them

No because that's retarded if they're still in the house, he left the house anyways so yes that is what went down.

Crisis core is shit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ek_v3BX0RPc

>>378800719
>>378805856
I'm pretty sure there's an old doujin of this scene somewhere.

>>378812887
madmen

When does the combat in FF7 get good? Feels like i'm doing the same shit spamming attack button until the limit shit comes out.

Plus what's with this waiting for charge thing to load before attacking? Just slows down everything when the attack animations are long as fuck

>>378812887
this is better than the actual game

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>>378800719
fucking bitches.
she didnt care for him when he was a kid.
But now that he is all grown up and badass she wants his dick.

This is why Aerith is a million times better.

Also I like how Tifa gets all pissy and jealous about a dead woman in advent children.

>>378808836
At that point Johnny had moved on from Tifa and gotten a girlfriend, but he still wanted to MEET Tifa. Tifa also knew that Johnny was from Nibelheim as well, so he would be able to tell if anything Cloud said about the incident was real. He just confirmed what Tifa already knew, that he didn't see Cloud before shit went down, but it was exactly as Cloud and Tifa remember it otherwise.

>>378812582
He's obviously baiting at this point anon. Anybody who actually played the game knows that there isn't the slightest hint of any of that shit that NTRfags love fapping to. People with a NTR fetish are insecure as fuck to the point where they have to imagine somebody else fucking the girl they like to get off. It's pretty pathetic really.

>>378813223
Stop leveling.

>>378810680
Side stories pretty much confirm that Sephiroth can, mostly because he keeps holding onto his hatred for Cloud. Jenova can't because it has no will and the planet is finding ways to destroy it's cells. Sephiroth will have to find another way to return, but he won't be able to do shit until then.

>>378813510
Won't the Lifestream eventually dissolve Sephiroth, though?

>>378812841

>Outside your NEET basement

Nice anon. Sure got me with this one. Want to prove I'm NEET and living in a basement?

>he left the house so that's what went down
>because I said so

Kill yourself or find help. Please.

>>378813223
Turn it to Active and max the speed.

Have fun, fag

>>378812043
>Tidus
>Engaging with his cast
Tidus only interacts with the other party members and main cast when he needs to either get lore exposition or fuck with whatever's going on. Tidus is led around for most of the game by the others who call the shots, and he only reacts instead of acts.

Cloud talks to EVERYONE in the game. Has his own dialogue with a ton of NPCs. He's a cocky abrasive asshole a lot of the time and still shows that he's not a total prick by being helpful or kind. Most of all, Cloud is written as though he has some actual agency and makes decisions despite being frequently manipulated by Jenova.

>>378813261
Aeris only liked Cloud because he was Zack.

Tifa cared about Aeris too.

God you're an idiot.

>>378813798
It's funny how at the start of the game Cloud is the one telling everyone else tutorials and how to play the game

>>378813639
It keeps trying, that's what happened at the end of FF7, most of what he was dispersed into the Lifestream, all his memories, feelings. Except for his hatred for Cloud. Those pieces of him were actually expelled by the Lifestream to become the Three clones in Advent Children, while his most basic self was left, held together from the hatred.

You would basically have to have a counseling session with him, work through his anger towards Cloud before he could truly be killed.

>>378812887
I liked crisis core, but the voice acting really is pretty terrible. The problem is that they all sound the same. Even Aerith and Cissnei have similar voices.

>>378813872
>the tutorial room where Cloud gets mad at the finger icon

so cute

>>378813872
>can skip the materia tutorial by telling Barret he wouldnt understand anyway

>>378814080
I like how in New Threat, Cloud gets punched after giving the explanation, or saying Barret wouldn't understand, then you get the Sense Materia. I laughed so hard.

>Yuffie and Cloud suffer of motion sickness
Do you think we'll get to see them puke in glorious HD?

>>378813894

Why did finding out he wasn't a Cetra drive him so fucking insane? So he was an experiment, so where test tube babies, but I haven't heard of any of them going crazy. Was he ever a nice person, or was he always a superhuman prick?

>>378814686
He was always a condescending prick

>>378814686
He was always a prick on the edge. He was pretty much told from a young age that he was better then everyone. When he learned that he wasn't human, he realized that was why he never felt he belonged. Learning what Jenova actually was didn't even make him pause, it just embolden him further.

>Oh, so Mother KILLED the Cetra, that means I'm even better then THEY WERE, that means I'm destined to become a god!

Sephiroth might not have been directly controlled by Jenova, but he still had her consuming instinct.

>>378814686
if hojo was your dad youd be insane too

>>378814686
He mentions in the first scene in the Mako Reactor that ever since he was young, he knew he was different from the others. It's also likely that he only thought he was different because he was infused with Mako, not because he was a human-alien hybrid.

He seems to be more standoffish/cold in the original game before his insanity, not so much a prick but detached. Crisis Core shows him being more considerate, like offering his blood for a transfusion for Genesis after he gets injured in training, and not going on missions because he doesn't want to fight his friends (Genesis and Angeal).

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>>378805556
we have a winner why did the thread go beyond this post?

christ you shitters will find ANY reason for NTR to be a thing

>>378808848
are you fucking kidding me

>>378815075
Funny enough, mental states like this are pretty much confirmed to be genetic. If you have a history of insanity in your family, you are more likely to become insane. Hojo was SUPER insane, I would expect any of his children to be incredibly unstable. Throw alien in the mix and you are asking for trouble.

>>378811612
What exactly made Zack interesting? His complete lack of any character development, motivation or backstory? His one-dimensional as fuck personality? Even Lightning is a far more interesting and better written MC than Zack.

>>378815236
Nope, it really is a thing. This is what happens when you establish that your gameplay mechanic has actual effect in universe and isn't just there to be flashy. Zack had a Pre-emptive Materia.

>>378815290
It goes without saying Lucrecia also had issues. It's all just asking to make a monster.

>>378811349
I actually liked Zack because he was the opposite of Cloud

>>378813870
Wait aeris knew zack?

>>378817558
r u serious

>>378817752
I haven't played it in over a decade. The need for a replay is dire.

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>>378817908
Yes. Zack is the guy she liked in Soldier (mentioned at the playground). I think in the secret basement cutscene, Zack mentions a girl in Midgar.

>>378800719
Her talking to Johnny is is completely avoidable if you just add her to your party after you get off the ship.

>>378808393
Stuff like this is why VII is good at ludonarrative concepts

>>378812095
Last Order was shit because Sephiroth willingly jumped into the lifestream instead of being tossed into it.

>>378818420
you meet zacks parents in gongaga also
hes also shown when you fix clouds mind

>>378808848
Ah, shit, that's messed up. Fuck.

In my mind, I was thinking, "Something is definitely fucked up for Cloud not to have the Materia that he had in the flashback." Didn't catch that though.

>>378820162
???? what

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>>378806958

she got sassafras. I like that

>>378812304
Following the continuity, Cloud's the actual clone though.

>>378819871
I forgot about that, because I totally skipped over Gongaga for a long time. Not on purpose, just ignorance.

>tfw first time I went there Aeris was already dead

>>378818814
Last Order/Before Crisis were both pretty bad, but Crisis Core was by far the worst. Genesis had no reason to be there. It just puts the blame on him instead of on Sephiroth for Sephiroth's insanity.

>>378821071
>Genesis had no reason to be there

WHAT GAACKT WANTS GACKT GETS

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>>378813870
>Aeris only liked Cloud because he was Zack.
this meme needs to die.
She clearly liked Cloud for who he was and even told him about zack being a fucking ladies man jerk.

It's like saying Tifa only liked cloud because she reminded him of zack as well.

>>378813870
>God you're an idiot.
Guess I hit a soft spot that got you triggered.
She seemed pretty pissed off in AC that Cloud was living in the old church of his old love instead of with her and stuff.

She wanted her knight to come and save her and he did.

>>378817908
>>378818420
>>378819871
Worth mentioning, the scene at Zack's house in Gongaga in the original FFVII also clearly affects Aerith, she was all "Zack?! ... Oh no..." and then left to take some air.

>>378821373
Except Tifa and Zack were only friends, Aerith was Zack's boyfriend and Cloud FUCKING ACTED EXACTLY LIKE ZACK BECAUSE MENTAL COLLAPSES ARE HARD THINGS TO DEAL WITH.

>>378821071
None of the new characters had a reason to be in Crisis Core. They should have just used characters that were seen/mentioned once or twice in the original game and fleshed them out more. The amount of focus spent on NotHojo was obnoxious.

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>>378821867
>Aerith was Zack's boyfriend

>>378818635
Fucking, not talking

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>>378821978
The amount of gimmick alone going into creating their personalities was painful. The whole hero and dreams shtick with Angeal and Zack, and Genesis and his terrible poetry. And the characters who did have potential (Cissnei?) barely got screentime. It definitely could have been much more had they steered away from making such major figures in the game so gimmicky and making them more complex like actual VII characters, but that would have required actual effort.

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>>378821867
>Aerith was Zack's boyfriend

You clearly got triggered, I guess you are one of those batshit cloti's yes?

Anyways that shit happened when they where fucking 15 yrs old and she dumped him cause he was a ladies man and spent like 3 years without a single fucking letter.

Meanwhile Tifa wanted Cloud to be a fucking soldier and practically ignored him and NTR'ed him until he became one.

Cloud and Aerith clicked, because they where the canon choice from the beggining. Why do you think they have so many stuff painted by Amano and why they meet at the end of KH & stuff?

>>378821867
>acted exactly like zack
cloud is kind of an asshole in the beginning and throughout compared to good guy zack.

Is the remake going to make them all look like gooks?

>>378822903
Nips aren’t gooks you retard.
You must be some retarded chink.

How is there a "love triangle" when Aeris dies in the first disc?

Even if Cloud loved Aeris, he is with Tifa by the end of the game.

>>378823310
Aeris is in the lifestream, and the white materia allow to speak to the lifestream.
It's a triangle because the white materia isn't at the bottom of the lake, Cloud got it and made a buttplug with it, to always be near Aeris.
Tifa is grumpy because, due to the white materia buttplug, she can't peg Cloud.
Tifa also have a barren womb.

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>>378824295
It's not explained, but i think Tifa's barren womb is due to Aeris not wanting Cloud to have children, because it would dilute his spirit and so, when he dies, he would be subsumed by the lifestream.
Without children, he will be strong enough to remain aware, and be reunited with Aeris.
Well, Aeris and Zach, but since Cloud always wanted to be with Zach, they all agree it'll work out.
Tifa will be subsumed though, since she a non-cetra woman, but no one cares.

>>378824554
christ shut up

>>378800719

1) she didn't really know cloud. She never excluded him, he was just a friend of someone else's friend, but the one time he came around, her mom had just died. It was just bad timing, she didn't try to push him away, she was just going through a tough time and he was barely more than a stranger.

2) She doesn't do anything with Johnny, I don't know exactly what you think was implied to happen but she was only catching up with Johnny because he was another old childhood friend who was recently kicked out by his mom and spent time loafing at tifa's bar.

She's only catching up with a regular, but people like to pretend there is more there. Johnny has one-sided feelings for Tifa and she's clueless.

>>378824607
No, i am not christ, as far as i know he is still in heaven.
I'm flattered you thought i was him though.

>>378824682
Even if she's clueless she's still cruel i mean she worked as a prostitute since she was a little girl and even regularly let people do her for free in the back alley you'd think she at least could suck him once or two and maybe let him release in her barren womb it's not like there's consequence you know i wonder if stds can be cured by heal materia but still the symptoms can so who cares.

>>378800719
No, they barely even knew each other, they were acquaintances at best as kids and Cloud was "THAT KID" in their hometown, they weren't even friends and she didn't even care about him. When they bumped into each other years later it was just "oh he's that kid". She probably fucked Johny.

>>378824721
not him but you're such a faggot lol

>>378824914
why don't you blow your fucking brains out you redneck american cuck

>>378825505
>redneck
thats barely a fucking insult and nothing he said would point him out to be one
if anything hes some pasty skeleton who or walking tub of lard

>>378822549
>muh no letters
>usage of NTR

kys desu

>>378800719
She seriously needs a breast reduction for the remake. Big tits are useless these days and only cause backpain

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>this thread

>>378825505
Please don’t call me american this is deeply offensive.

>>378825976
She was born that way why should she be ashamed of her big tits if anything they're great help since they can soften blow in melee combat and she fight unarmed so sh's always in melee range so it's always useful now it would be silly to make them bigger because they must already be in the way of proper combat techniques but there's no reason to make the smaller really if you think about the matter some time you'll come to the same conclusion really give it a shot haha

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>mfw this easter egg in FF9
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ij1nk_ryXcs

I always liked Aeris more

>>378800719
I thought she had a crush on him ever since the tragedy at the Niflheim Reactor bridge. Cloud's the only one that leaps to her rescue when the bridge collapses. Did they fell together as well? Can't remember. Since then she wants Cloud to be her white knight and thus the scene at the water tower.

>>378828775
she didn't even know cloud was there during that

>>378821071
>Genesis: hay sephiroth-koon look in the basement its a good idea

Genesis can fuck right off.

>>378805750
There is no such thing as beta or alpha female, you couch sociologist.

>>378829529
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A53Xc_0HA-M

Fast forward to 14 minutes or something. And after watching it, the water tower scene seems to happen before the bridge collapse. Probably that's when Tifa had a crush on him. And besides, Tifa was Cloud's closest friend in the town. There's that as well to consider.

>>378827938

You know I wonder how they'll deal with that song in the Remake.

It has really cheesy lyrics that the grunts sing in the wardrobe closet while you learn the controls.

>>378806885

Just squint a little and it's easily believable, when you consider the series' history, since Final Fantasy used to be gritty sexually starting from II. II has a lamia ensnare people with sex. III has a princess that wants a harem of underage boys. IV has dancers and wives meeting their husbands late at night. V has forced undressing and Lenna's Mystic Knight outfit covers merely a third of her tits. VI has both main female party members raped and the third gets hit on by a pedophile. VII has a street smart prostitute and a weak willed slut. Come on, Johnny is exhausted in the morning, legs spread wide lying on the bed. VIII has a "You're not my real dad!" thing going on with Caraway and Rinoa. If the timeline of events matched better, I'd think Rinoa was Laguna's daughter. They look much more similar than Caraway. Maybe the deaths at childbirths caused Squall and Rinoa to be born closer to each other than would be expected. But it's unlikely. Unfortunate. Anyways dysfunctional non-perfect relationships are a theme in the game in general. IX has cheating Cid.

It's only in X that we got all fairy tale. X-2 is actually more in line with the series with its indignant massages.