>slow as fuck >terrible pathfinding >horrible UI >too

>>378772879
saged hidden reported

>>378772923
Not an argument

Because asians decided that click speed was analagous to being good at a strategy game, and so decided to never improve the UI to maximize their required click speed

>>378773352
Never bothered to play SC2. Is it any better?

>>378773352
This. StarCraft was never about the strategy as with C&C, you could actually how EA was trying to win over the StarCraft crowd by making every new C&C game simpler and micro-dependent.

>>378773479
No, that's the sad part. 2 kept all the shitty interface decisions in 1, because bad interface = more hardcore game. Same philosophy that left us with dota 2.

>>378772879
>too micro-dependent
Videogame requiring input from the player? What kind of retarded shit is that?

>>378775292
>woooow i'm clicking faster than you therefore I'm better!

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>>378775478
>plays a REAL TIME strategy
>surprised when someone who's quicker gets an upperhand

>>378775620
>real time strategy means individually clicking each of my Stalkers to move backwards three inches after each shot
Yeah okay.

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>>378775282
Why was Blizzard always so shit? It's not even funny, because of how influential this company is.
>ruined mmo
>ruined rts
>ruined shooters
What's next on their list?

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>>378775729
>WOOOOOOW AM I SUPPOSED TO MOVE EVERY SINGLE UNIT MYSELF?!

>>378775729
Sounds like that's a skill someone else has that you don't son.

At least you have more salt than they do.

>>378775941
That's turn based game though.

>>378774943
What did you tke befoe posting that? And can I have some? It's sure to be some really string stuff.

Original C&C games are much more twitchy than the EA ones.
EA slowed the games down considerably to make them actually fun to play instead of the autistic mashfest to get split second bbuild orders down and dodge incoming fire with your mass of tanks.

Generals was still more micro-heavy and faster than Starcraft but it lessened the burden at the base and the third games were much more managable and closer to a decent pace like what you'd get in the singleplayer.

The only micro-dependent EA games are RA2 (which largely copied the old formula) and Generals (which is extremely front-loaded on combat micro but is the opposite of Starcraft which puts all the pressure on building up the economy so you can let a few swathes of units kick the dust and still be fine).

>>378775941
>only one piece moves per turn
How has this issue not been addressed yet?

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>too many unnecessary structures

To this day I still have no idea what the fuck they were thinking with the Citadel of Adun. Its very existence boggles the mind.

>>378776981
It's to make your Zealots go faster.

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>>378772879
>TA never made it to Asia
imagine how different history would be.

>>378772879
because koreans are retarded

>>378777145
We can always play SupCom, r-right?

>>378776481
>he didnt play RA3 and C&C4
one was micro fucking everything
the other was fuck you we SC zone control now

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maybe RTS games were never good and we were just deluded

>>378777590
dumb waifu poster

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>>378777590
I like TBS genre more desu

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>>378777590
I only played them because of death count way higher than in FPS games.

>>378775941
>white on 7-8 rows
Triggered

>>378777391
No, I'm not an idiot, why would I ever play C&C4?

And RA3 is at snail's pace compared even to AoE, let alone Starcraft or, God forbid, old C&C.

This is how old C&C plays when you're a shitter:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jstrzlyKmhQ
A good player would have been even faster and done in like 5 minutes. They are frantic and micro-intensive as all hell.

>>378777737
>There will never be an actual sequel to Disciples II
>Disciples III essentially killed the franchise

Even the few nice things DSIII presented didn't out-weight the level of bad things it had.

>>378777963
So did I.

There is something incredibly appealing about being the absolute ruler and only hope of an entire nation and sending young, able-bodied men who had their entire lives ahead of them into certain death, send them to fight their neighbors they don't have any personal quarrels with and let them crush each others dreams or even have fun. Show them a side they didn't know about themselves. Slaughter civilians like they are insects under your shoes and kill and destroy the guy who wanted to kill and destroy YOU and slaughter YOUR civilians.

Is there anything better than this? Of course doing the murdering yourself in FPS games is awesome too.

>>378772879
Because nostalgia duh.

Also:
>single handedly ruined RTS genre
Absolutely false. RTS genre was at its prime when SC came out and it had very little impact.

>>378775941
This is the worst analogy I've ever fucking seen. You should have used a food analogy.

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>>378780116
I just care about piles of dead bodies, the rest is irrelevant.

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Total War was the natural evolution of non-competitive RTS.

>sc
>slow
is op literally retarded?

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>>378776732
Two when castling.

>>378782034
And is profitable enough to set a trend, yes.

>>378776981
Zealot leg speed?

In TvP Zealots are used like Lings, to get up in the tanks' shit so that they get damaged by their own splash.

It's actually a pretty important structure. The fact you didn't use it doesn't mean anything.

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>>378782263

>>378782354
Yeah, but what's the point of having single structure just for one upgrade?

>>378783149
it makes it easier to scout templar tech too

>>378772879
When the release date of the HD remaster is announced, do you think it'll be "in 2 weeks" or "in 2 months" ?

Since its supposed to be released this summer and there should be an announcement soon...

>>378772879
It isn't.

>>378772879
Get the fuck off of /v/ you useless casual shitter.

>>378783149
Protoss t3 is very strong; it needs delays.

>>378783795
Go play your cookie clicker: e-sport edition you dumb gook.

/v/ discussing Starcraft always gives me headaches.

>>378784561
why because starcraft is all about being skilled + pro and V just cant appreciate or understand that?

>>378784650
Dude strategy is all about coming up with creative and unique strategies. Having ideas which are so original that nobody else had them and win because of your creativity.

It's not about who has the fastest fucking hands. Even a retard can memorize the fastest building order and simply build according to a standardized algorithm. What's the difference between "pro" koreans and AIs? There isn't any. This is why the genre is shit.

>>378786249
>Can easily stomp the computer
>Get my ass handed to me by 350+ apm korean zergs

Yeah man totally.

>>378776981
SInce it is required for the temple, I imagine it's to pad out time between starting the game and having psi storm/archons
it is silly that it only has one upgrade though

>>378786953
Try hardest difficulty.

>>378786249
>strategy is about creativity

Strategy is about getting the upper hand, prediction, and reacting to the opponent.
Even in the clickspam meta of starcraft, all of this is true. the one who reacts poorly or makes a bad play is at a major deficit, you aren't just going to speedclick your way out of a bad play , you have to know how to come back, and you have to have intel to plan your next move.

If it was all about speed, scouting wouldn't matter. The meta wouldn't ever change, you wouldn't have various build orders, it would just be 1 straight forward game game.

>>378772879
Don't forget that they stole from both westwood and GW.

Starcraft's success was due to subhuman asians with shitty pcs could barely play anything else.

Blizzard have never made a good game, they only make 'pop' games, like some shitty boyband that sells really well but has no talent at all.

>>378786249
>What's the difference between "pro" koreans and AIs? There isn't any.

You are deluded. Beating even the insane bots isn't difficult if you are halfway decent. Just try beating even the okay players on Bnet or ICCUP, and see how much of a difference there is between an AI and pro Koreans.

>>378784650
>V
>he doesn't even know the name of the place he is shitposting in.
Go back.

>>378775789
Your mothers vag
Too late though
Ruined that a long time ago

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>>378772879

https://youtu.be/EP9F-AZezCU

Here you go OP

>>378772879
i think you meant to type
>i have an attentionspan of a chicken
>i can't think of routes by yourself
>i'm too retarded to understand a simple UI
>i've got no skill
>i don't understand the game
>i don't understand the variations every faction can go for
>i'm too much of an idiot to know that starcraft 2 and warcraft 3 are still being played

>>378782034
RTS games that target single player will probably be pausable like total war is. There are a couple of RTS games coming out from smaller studios that have a more traditional layout and control scheme compared to total war, but they both make a point of being able to pause to consider tactics and so on.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4MmFslPILuM

http://store.steampowered.com/app/373930/Sudden_Strike_4/

As two examples
Whether they'll be good or not remains to be seen, but it seems there's definitely a market for slower paced, SP focused RTS games, where people want the immediacy of normal RTS controls without feeling the stress of MP.

>>378788101
What the fuck? I love Starcraft now!

>>378772879
it was a great game but holy fuck is it clunky these days

>>378788101
wait, are you telling me if I get cosmetic surgery to be korean I can play star craft?

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>>378778146
>>378775941

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>>378787608
>Blizzard have never made a good game,
>What are rock n roll racing and the lost vikings

>>378775941
>white queen on a black square
FUCKING SHIT

>>378773479
barely, there's less tedious micro and some quality of life improvements but it's till starcraft, despite what memers like to say

>>378775789
EVERYTHING

>>378792273
kek