Has anyone else noticed that Naughty Dog's games seemingly

>>378766956
less and less gameplay amazing

>>378767039
FPBP
Bring back crash already damn it (and no, a remaster doesn't count)

>>378766956
>it goes to shit after Jak 2.
What did you mean by this?

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>>378766956
Whoa...

>>378766956
You realize teens fall for that cinematic bullshit meme too right?

These games aren't more mature. They're just playing to an audience that think video games are art if they are more like movies.

>>378766956
>tlou
>adults
lolwut m8
TLoU and Uncharted are aimed at high schoolers at best, adults will balk at their primitive gameplay and story.

>>378767039
FIRST POST BEST POST

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>>378766956

>perpetual machildren who refuse to grow up hate uncharted and tlou

it fits

>start out making games
>end up making Cinematic Experiences™
JEWED

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>>378767676
>i am so mature and enlightened
>getting my feminist sociology degree allowed me to grow up and be above straight white male gamergaters

cuck

>>378767676
>falling for "games are art" bullshit so you lap up something as by the numbers as the last of us

it fits

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>>378766956
>Dumbasses will take this obvious bait.

>>378767812
4chan was pretty fucking liberal in 2006. This guy's a moron. These boards have always been contrarian as fuck against the status quo. That guy has a terrible memory.

>>378767662
"We're too mature for cartoons you see"
Fuck ND.

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>>378767812

>>378766956
Game developers age at the same rate as humans do, you know

But yeah the young adult market now makes up a larger and more lucrative portion of the market than children, who do not have their own money. So this is a trend you can observe throughout the whole industry. Only Nintendo still makes E games, and even they are making more mature games now than in the past.

>>378767965
>4chan was "liberal"

that word's meaning has changed pretty radically since then

4chan has always been about freedom. 4chan has always despised leftist retards, which comprise the majority of modern "liberals"

>mature games for a mature gamer like me

>>378766956
Has anyone else noticed that Naughty Dog's last good game was jak 1? probably the most overrated developer out there

>>378768160
but uncharted 2, uncharted 4, and the last of us are all really good actually

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>>378768091
*blocks your path*

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>>378767039
literally came in to say this

When you realize that they made Crash just to compete with Sonic and Mario, more popular mascot games. Then they created Jak and Daxter, which was like a spiritual successor of Crash. But then they realized that GTA and more serious games were becoming popular so they immediately changed the tone of Jak series, trying to please this new story-hungry GTA audience. Then they threw all cartoonist stuff into trash bin to please ever-popular story shooter audience, which was becoming even more popular than ever. Lastly, they went after highly story-based and emotion-manipulated audience with Last of Us.

They are very talented at changing their games based on what's currently popular.

>>378766956
Yeah, they started out with lots of potential only to throw it all away.

>>378768102
Don't split hairs. You know exactly what I mean. People here were against republicans back then. Then obama came into power so they talked shit about him. Now any reasonable person knows trump is kind of stupid so they defend him. It's all contrarianism. Don't try to dress it up as freedom.

True freedom would be saying the truth. Not lashing out against what's obvious.

>>378767534

But NeoGAF told me that it was gaming's Citizen Kane moment?

>>378768243
Pretty much this. They just did what they thought was in. Crash 1 really isn't that spectacular. It didn't do much that was new. It was just fun. That's it.

To prop them up as these amazing developers is a fallacy. They make fun games. That's it.

>>378768341
people here were mildly against republicans. nowhere near how fervently we are against the modern left.

ron paul has been an /ourguy/ for a very long time.

>>378768243
>>378768459
So when will they make actual games again?

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The only game in that image I'd want to play is Crash. Uncharted was okay for an afternoon just like a cheap movie, tlou is complete shit, and even as a teen I could see how embarrassing Jak was as a design. Sly was the superior PS2 series.

>>378767167
They can't. They lost the rights to it.

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>/v/ still pretends to hate TLOU

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>>378768204
>fatfuck neckbeard has an SKS
>hipster faggot has an ebin jamomatic drum mag
>dumb hippie bitch has a long range scope in an environment where it would be useless

>>378768459
>They made fun games
fixed

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>>378768627
>I know what /v/ thinks.
>In my mind, /v/ thinks like me.

>>378767662

What a bunch of limp dicked wet blankets. Even stuff like Fat Drake was booted from UC4 because "W R SRS GROWNUPS NOW >:("

TLoU2 is going to be a fucking debacle of ham fisted over the top political statements, I'll be amazed if you're actually going to be pressing buttons and controlling your character meaningfully for more than 20 minutes at a time before being bludgeoned with IMPORTANT SOCIAL COMMENTARY

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>>378768696
>yfw /leftyk/

>>378767965
no, 4chan has always been middle grounded, and swings directly against whichever way the pendulum swings. you get a lot of people here who try to be the voice of reason when it really fucking matters.

give it like 3-4 years, just like in 2006-2008 when literally everyone was arguing against jack thompson about violent video games making you violent irl, we'll be doing something similar then.

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>>378767039
FPBP

>>378768627
I tried to force myself through but the gameplay is just barebones and not fun. The story is probably could but I felt like I was forcing myself through the gameplay sections to unlock more bits of story, and at that point you know your game failed as a game.

>>378766956
www.reddit.com

>>378768627
>liking TLOU: The Movie: The Game
Enjoy your pedo lesbian shit.

>>378768513
I'll grant that the backlash wasn't as intense. But you're basically confirming what I said.

It's a lot of contrarianism just to be assholes. But that's ok. It's why many of us still come here. To be dicks. Or "trolls".

>>378768696
>Trumplards have their circle jerks where they can shitpost from 8ch, and /pol/ with permission from their master, r/The_Donald.

>>378767676
I like uncharted 2, that's it

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>>378768821
>I felt like I was forcing myself through the gameplay sections to unlock more bits of story, and at that point you know your game failed as a game
and yet people praise nier and deadly premonition

>>378768160

Last of Us was a solid 8/10. Decent single player with a pretty great multiplayer.

>>378766956
ironic, because most older people prefer casual, fun games like crash. edgy cinematic stuff like TLOU is about the last thing someone who doesn't play many games would play.

>>378768627
I don't hate it actually. But it's fucking gears of war gameplay when it even has gameplay to begin with. It has a lot of problems. But it was entertaining.

>>378767389
>after

Jak II was broken as fuck and every mission felt like the train mission from GTA:SA in terms of how frustrating they were

>>378768915
nah i think 4chan has always had an array of political views but as of late it's extremely anti-left

you're not right. 4chan was more of an amorphous blob that didn't give a fuck about politics. now we control politics and /ourguy/ is in the white house.

>>378768743
Don't be an idiot. The games are still enjoyable. Just nothing special.

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They took away donut Drake. They're dead to me.

>>378768627

I always liked it, and talked about it in positive terms when playing it.

It's not a 10/10 Citizen Kane of gaming, but it's pretty good all around. I expected tacked on, shitty multiplayer, but it actually ended up being arguably the best part of the game.

>>378768804
Thompson was right, just for the wrong reasons

>>378768821
it would've been better if it either had more enemy variety or they just scrapped the "zombies" altogether and made it about scavenging, and surviving a post apocalyptic wasteland, like the road/the stand.

>>378769127
>Don't be an idiot. The games are still enjoyable
>The games are still enjoyable
looks like you dont got much room calling anyone an idiot

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>>378768696

Wow, you're so cool and knowledgeable, anon!

>>378768958
You're mistaken if you think I care about either of those games either. I'm pickier than most on this board, I don't even like MGS2 or Platinum shit.

>>378768921
Did I mention Trump, you oxygen-deprived chimp? All I mentioned was the absolute retardation concerning their weapons. Not to mention the fact that taking them off your backs and holding them like that can be considered brandishing a weapon, but of course I wouldn't expect the type of people going to those things to actually respect weapons or have a fucking clue about what they're doing.

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>>378767039
FPBP

>>378766956


>Thinking the same people worked on any of these games

>>378768804
>no, 4chan has always been middle grounded, and swings directly against whichever way the pendulum swings.

That statement makes absolutely no sense. You're just arguing for the sake of it at this point. How can it be middle grounded when it swings "directly" against the norm? Do you know what directly means? That doesn't mean it stops midway if it's swinging directly against an opposition.

This place is contrarianism to satiate bored men and elicit a reaction.

>>378769124
>GamerGate never left and 8ch wont stop raiding 4chan.
Let's call it for what it really is.

>>378769152
I can understand the reasoning though. U4 has a much more somber tone. Imagine watching Aeris' death scene in FF7 with fucking Big Head Mode enabled or something. It ruins what they're going for.

>>378769182

Sounds like I Am Alive, which I actually loved. I know it's a shitty, half finished mess, but damn, just wandering around looking for loot with the rare, tense encounter not knowing if the person was good or bad... it had potential.

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>>378769276
Don't you have a trashcan to assault?

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>/v/ will shit on uncharted and TLOU when jak 2&3 were just spin jump and shoot with the yellow gun: the game

>>378768782
TLoU was like 85% gameplay you retarded faggot.

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>>378769331
does this upset you, luggage lad?

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>>378768627
only the multiplayer was good, the campaign was a slog through cutscenes and straightforward gameplay

>>378767039

>crash
>lots of gameplay

Let's be honest, Crash is one of the weakest of the mainline animal mascot franchises. Spyro is better, Sly is better, Gex is arguable, Donkey Kong shits on it, Banjo Kazooie is better, etc.

>>378769124
Of course there's always going to be a variety of political views.

But you're not being honest if you don't recognize it's about being against the current political correctness.

Bush was a nazi but then "misunderstood" once he was out of office. Obama was a nigger. Trump is perceived here as fantastic because any sane person knows he's stupid.

Contrarianism.

>>378767039
fpbp
/thread
AND
came here to post this.

>>378769230
I don't got much room? Got?

If you're going to attempt an insult involving intelligence at least don't butcher the language you simpleton.

>>378769440
Thanks for making my point. Now back to
>>>/8pol/

>>378769496
doesn't make his statement untrue, though.

>>378769535
I think you're in denial of reality here or unable to come to the true conclusion

4chan supports Trump because he's against the bolshevik establishment. Nothing more, nothing less. We will always support him as long as he is against they who take the things we love away from us.

>>378769662
make me cuckold

>>378768696
>implying there's anything wrong with an SKS

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really makes me think

>>378767039
Actually I'd argue Naughty Dog peaked with Jak and Daxter.

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>>378769389

>make fun of some nerd sperging out about weapons
>YOU LIBRUL KEK

I have a Winchester Model 1873 and a Henry 45-70 in the closet. Please take your political autism elsewhere.

>>378769325
The pendulum swings in two directions. Left and Right.

When the pendulum swings too far right, 4chan directly pushes left.

When the pendulum swings too far left, 4chan directly pushes right.

That's why when the entire fucking left tried their fucking darnedest to get Hillary elected, this place pushed Trump unironically.

We literally always do this. The pendulum is still coming in from the left to the right. When it hits TOO far right, we'll be pushing left again. That's what i mean about being middle grounded. We never go too far off, always somewhere in between the two extremes.

>Playing Uncharted 2 for the first time recently
>Get to the section after the train crash
>Stealth kill 4 guards
>Find the exit of the area
>Nate says "Guess I have to climb out or bleed to death"
>Go to climb out
>Two guard come out of thin air and shoot me dead
>Redo it, stealth kill everyone in the area
>Shotgun guys spawn in and instantly know where I am so I can have big bang bang shooty cinematic battle
Why even put stealth in the game if they don't let you use it? These game railroad the shit out of you, no creativity allowed.

>>378769739
>4chan supports Trump because he's against the bolshevik establishment

Have you not been paying attention? That's what I just said. 4chan reacts against whatever the establishment or current political correctness is. Again, you're just arguing for the sake of it at this point. You confirm everything I say but act like it's a counter argument which is also proving me right.

You just want to be a contrarian. That's ok. That's why we're all here. But let's not be intellectually dishonest.

>>378769663
Yes it does because all the Jak games have more gameplay than the crash games.

>>378767039
WOWWW THIS IS A TRUE /V/ POST! TRULY A /V/RO OPINION!

>>378769869
post your 45-70

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The childhood games of each platform are really telling of which is full of retards.

Nintendo fans played Mario & Zelda

Xbox Fans played Halo & Gears of War

Sony Fans played Jak & Daxter, Crash, & Ratchet & Clank

>>378767039

Do you really believe Jak have less gameplay than Crash?

>>378769891
4chan is permanently slanted right due to how subversive and destructive the modern left has shown itself to be

>>378770003
it's more than just contrarianism though. 4chan will never support the left in its current state and Trump is very much so in our good books.

>>378769891
I know we literally always do this. We agree. What are even trying to argue at this point?

But pushing for a middle ground is not the same as being middle grounded which is what you said. It's just being against what's in. It's literally just contrarianism.

>>378770014

This right here. Jak was a direct upgrade over Crash.

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>>378766956
You forgot a game, OP

>>378770228
>it's more than just contrarianism though

You're right. It's also morons that think that we're being serious.

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>that part in TLOU where you MUST kill the doctors

shit game.

>>378770110
It has more cutscenes, so it makes sense in a ratio perspective.

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>>378770342
are you going to whine about "polthedonald" now, shareblue?

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>>378770136
It's not the story in ND games that gets me, because they're usually fine.

ITS THE FUCKING GENERIC ASS SHITTY GAMEPLAY AND LEVEL DESIGN

>>378770014
>>378770276
nah I disagree

>>378770342

That's what /pol/ is.

Remember when Stormfags would see us say " nigger " and assume they belonged? We told them to go back to Stormfront because aside from making fun of a politician now and then, 4chan was largely apolitical.

Now they have a little playground for their phoneposting newfaggotry, and it's shitting up this entire website with unwanted political garbage.

>>378770424
What are you even trying to say? Trump is kind of fucking stupid. We know that. To pretend he isn't is contrarianism to elicit a response which you are getting from me so jokes on me.

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>>378770541
ugh yeah i just hate those right wing pol nazis, right guys? they need to go back the r/thedonald

>>378770136
Games should have substance, be creative, and passionately made while games shouldn't be shallow, dirivitive, and focus-group tested.

The quality of a game is determined case-by-case through careful analysis of the content and how it does those things well within the game, which can range from gameplay-focused games to story-focused games.

Prove me wrong.

>>378770645
>Trump is kind of fucking stupid

How? He does fumble around a bit, he's getting old and I hope he's mentally ok. But other than that, he's one of the most successful businessmen on the planet.

Very stupid I guess.

>>378767534
seriously. TLOU was one of the most derivative games I've ever played. the whole time I was just thinking of the better games it was aping.
especially that one where you're upside down, which was a direct knockoff of dead space 2. add on top of that it's basically a long escort mission, with an unlikeable snot-nosed brat and it's hard to see why it's so praised.

>>378770541
Pretty much. It's so baffling that I share these boards with people who don't get this. I'm glad you seem to but holy fuck.

I. don't. care. about. politics. But to defend trump is just kind of fucking funny. But some people come here and take that shit seriously. He's stupid. There's no getting around it.

>>378770541
you can go back to Redit anytime, Trigglypuff nu-male cuckold.

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Uncharted is a completely unoriginal game in terms of concept, gameplay, story and execution.

There's no aruging either. Story and characters are ripped right out of Indiana Jones and other generic Hollywood movies created to cater to the lowest common denominator.

Gameplay is also boring, generic and ripped straight out of other 3rd person games. Platforming is barely platforming and is rather just a linear path made to feel like you're actually doing something rather than actually doing something.

>>378770647
Reddit the post.

>>378769338
Kill yourself.

>>378770758
>He does fumble around a bit

That's an understatement and you damn well know it. I didn't say he was literally fucking retarded. I said he was kind of stupid. He is and we all know it.

And what does him being able to make money have to do with his ability to lead a country? You know the cash me outside girl is making money right? Don't be stupid.

>>378770794
>trump is stupid

you still need to explain this

>>378770867
hi there reddit

>>378767389
Life turns to shit around when you hit puberty

>>378771010
there's a difference between being a long-term highly successful business magnate and a flash in the pan meme girl, mongoloid

have you personally met and spoken to mr Trump? have you seen him take an IQ test? have you had extensive conversations about a variety of topics with him? no? so you can't really actually judge his mental capabilities outside of his public appearances, most of which he does pretty well on, even unscripted.

Much better than Barack "If if if if if if if okie doke" Obongo

>Group is obsessed with the other side and how much of a problem they are
>Flood their chosen site/platform with examples of how the other side is out of control and ignorant
>Freaks out when groups or people affiliated with them are portrayed negatively in media
>Group is adept at playing the victim wherever convenient
>Will continue to throw ad hominem around and misrepresent dissenters but throw a bitch fit when it happens to them
>Claims their ideology is misunderstood by people outside their circle, wants to convert them
>Is constantly talking about how their values and way of life is being threatened by some other outside group, force, or ideology
Now, am I talking about SJWs or /pol/acks?

>>378771232
>a long-term highly successful business magnate

He's been a reality tv show star that gets paid to slap his name on something for decades. You need to calm the fuck down.

>>378771363
uhhhhhhhhh try looking at the New York skyline sweetie

>>378769765

theyre both bad games

>>378770925
Great reply!

>>378771248
sjws, polacks are right on pretty much everything

>>378771575
You too!

>>378771248
This is a trick question and I won't fall for it you filthy misogynistic racist nigger jew.

>>378771596
Nope, the answer is both. On a thermometer, extreme temperatures in either direction will kill you, so you should seek a healthy middle climate.

>>378767039
Fpbp

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>>378766956
I can assure you, this game was not for kids.

You think any of them have even HEARD of mah nigga Bach?

Naughty dog's narrative also became dissonant of any actual reality which spans that of a bandicoot to a lesbian Christ like immunity Mary Sue, to Nadine a hulking shenigger with the sole purpose of beating Nathan Drake, or maybe just to be there and to make a point like hey this happens. They wen't as backwards as a studio could go.
*tips fedora* I'm thinking of you truckman.

>>378770237
i mean, whatever the general motive is, it's grounded by people who are doing it with logic and reason. They eventually get drowned out over the contrarian masses but it always starts in a good place.

>>378770228
>4chan is permanently slanted right
no. literally never. people said we were hard left in 2008. people used to make fun of being nazi's. the thing is we joke about shit until it gets meme'd into reality, and then everyone unironically starts becoming memes. give it time. there'll be a small moment in the future where news will cover us as some strange anti heroes to some stupid current event. then go back to hating us.

>>378766956
This looks like an Animorphs cover of a 3-D platformer turning into a third-person shooter

>>378771232
Obama is a test tube baby. Does not have a soul

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>>378771937
>hey dude did you read this on reddit? Horseshoe theory? yep, both sides are the same finally confirmed. Neil Degrasse Tyson finally confirmed it with Bill Nye the Space guy. Both. Sides. Are. The. Fucking. Same bro.

>>378769417
hey man fuck you, I also hate the jak games.

>>378769986
you should have stealth killed nobody dumbass

the only criticism of stealth in that game at release was that it was too easy and felt like padding

QUESTION FOR SONY PONIES
are uncharted 4 and tlou "worth it" if I have an HDR television?

>>378768696
they're also airsoft guns, retard.

>>378767662
>Uncharted
>a game that features zombies, ancient monkey guardians, and a protagonist that can take a shotgun clip to the face and walk it off like it's nothing
>grounded in reality

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>>378772313

>>378769496
>Spyro is better
lol no, just no

>>378773139
They basically killed off all but the last one in Uncharted 4

>>378767676
the mature thing to do is admit that video games will never be high art and will never be able to convey stories or emotions in the same way as other mediums. You're like the 14 year old who thinks he's grown up because you use crass language and listen to "deep" music like NIN

>>378769434
85%? That's still awful. I'm not paying for 85%, I'm paying for 100%.

>>378766956
It's like they didn't want to alienate their established customer base.

>>378769739
>bolshevik
Americans should be denied of speaking politics when all they got is black&white view on things and use umbrella terms like liberal and conservative.

>>378767039
everyone claiming this is fpbp are salty nintenyeardrones.

They will never know the feel of getting more and more mature games as they grow up alongside their favorite game studio.