Now that the dust has settled, can we all agree that this Zelda

Absolutely not, it makes game design an art and makes an open world game that's interesting and exciting with something fresh every 10 meters.

The best game of the past decade.

Nope

100% no. Best Zelda game of all time. fuck off nostalgia fags.

It wasn't a Zelda game. It was a massive disappointment.

Literally Zelda 1 in 3D. Fuck off underageb&

>>378742229
It's the third best. MM Is still winner due to atmosphere alone. BotW's better than OoT in every way except for Dungeons, BotW's dungeons are so underwhelming that I just can't put it above OoT as a result.

The idea of returning to the open-world format of the 2D games was long-needed, since the original idea of the series was exploration, which was slowly phased out until SS when it was completely removed. I just wish there was more to find than just shrines.

MM > OoT > BotW > TWW > TP > Powergap > SS

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>>378742894
>Literally Zelda 1 in 3D

>>378742229
I agree with >>378742917, but swap MM and OOT and swap BOTW and MM

>>378742229
Wind Waker and Twilight Princes are very mediocre, and Skyward Sword was sub medicore.

Haven't played BotW but I'm glad to hear it's better than the other 3D Zelda games.

>>378742995
it is kind of like it

The puzzles are short and confined to a single room. the dungeon are similar, very little focus on story and little handholding, and an open world, little focus on items

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>shit dungeons
>copy pasted bosses
>unrewarding ""progression""
>Rudania and Medoh quests suck gorilla dick
>paper weapons
>unrewarding final boss if you play the game the way its intended

why do we like this game again?

>>378743265
I'm mostly giving it a free pass on it's obvious shortcomings just because I'm so happy it exists.

Zelda was my favorite series until SS came out, which was so fucking awful and missed the entire point of the series in so many ways that I was pretty much done with the series at that point under the assumption the games after it would follow the same path.

Thankfully they did a complete 180 and while BotW itself has some problems, Im very happy with the idea of it. And am now excited for the next Zelda game which can hopefully use the 1-2 years it took them to get the physics working properly for Enemy variety and dungeons instead.

It was good in the fact that it wasn't another 3D Zelda and tried something new that worked.

Also the map design is really good.
>inb4 durr my empty simulator

They designed the world in a way that when you find an area of interest there's enough space and visibility to show you more areas of interest. There's a good flow to exploring the map.

>>378743631
filtered.

>>378742229
It's mediocre at worst and does things better than pretty much any game ever at its best

>>378743265
>copy pasted bosses
Post discarded

Nope it's pretty fun. One of those few games I sunk 40 hours into instantly.

>>378743106
Got it. I just have autism shriek whenever someone uses "literally" wrong.

>>378743976
Oh man you better stay off /v/

>>378742917
I'm glad they decided to change something about the dungeons though. Having played all Zelda games they'd started to become more and more of a bore (apart from the bosses). Always the same uninspired "puzzles", pull this lever, move this box on that button, similar gadgets for similar gadget puzzles ... I stopped enjoying them since WW and just wanted to get on with the story.

Also, The Witness has set the bar quite high for puzzle games now and I don't think there's an excuse to make games with chains of isolated puzzle rooms with generic puzzles anymore. In future Zelda games I'd like to see dungeons that are like miniature versions of The Witness.

>>378744386
Oh that would be cool. The sound puzzles, shadow puzzles and general environment puzzles would work extremely fucking well in zelda

>>378744470
Yes, but I was talking more about how The Witness' puzzles are sort of globally interconnected and how you unlock new parts by learning puzzle rules rather than finding a key. Zelda puzzles usually have no meaning beyond the room they're located in and have no thematic connection to the rest of the game either.

>>378743812
not an argument.

>>378743412
>ndroid the post

>>378743769
>does things better than pretty much any game ever at its best
like what things, for instance?

>>378742229
no

>>378742229
yep

>>378746683
is this bait or the worst made meme ever?

the guy just lists the questlines of the game, holy shit did the ntards live under a rock for the last 20 years.

>>378746913
Nice argument.

>>378746913
No, it's just a hard rebuttal you have no counter to.

People talked about games like undertale or fnaf for way longer than the new zelda the new zelda was basicly mgs 5 fun open world game shitty zelda game

>>378743862
>One of those few games I sunk 40 hours into instantly.
ARE YOU A TIME TRAVELLER!!?!?!?!

>>378747031
you can make the most boring shit sound awesome...

>>378742229
>I'm a hardcore gamur!
>I don't want a Switch
>Hardcore gamers wouldn't miss out on one of the best games of all time just because it's on a console I don't have
>Therefore Zelda must be overrated open world garbage!

No, but have you considered doing competitive mental gymnastics?

>>378747287
>N-no content!

>>378747287
They're just as involved and elaborate as any of the side quests in Zelda games. But /v/ likes to pretend they don't exist because they have this meme running that the game has nothing to find. The need for them to a find a flaw in the game is desperately hilarious.

>>378746683
>corrupted dragon
literally a shooting minigame
>solve a mystery in Kakariko
random mmo quest
>go on a quest to find the white horse
that is sitting down 10 meters away from the questgiver
>navigate a maze...
with nothing in it than a shrine and a flame sword you can find on random moblins
>help organise a family choir
random mmo quest
>build an entire town for nothing
more like talk to this 3 npcs to unlock an area with overprized items you can find everywhere
>save a team of explorers
random mmo quest
>decipher an ancient plaque broken into
you don't decipher shit, you just find the fragments that are scattered 10 meters away from each other
>look for the statue of a missing goddess
to find another shrine with garbage in it
>go bowling with snowballs
starting to get desperate
>hunt a giant horse
really starting to get desperate
>shoot targets on mounted obstacle
amazing
>hunt down your memories based on...
game so poorly designed the cutscenes are scattered around the world
>bring ice across the desert
random quest
>snowboarding
boring
>buy a house
with only 4 things to put in
>cook for a hungry bird
>help a shy guy get a date
>escort a message
search for ancient leviathan
>wedding
random mmo quests
>explore a mysterious forest
set piece, 1 thing to do, nice
>desert island
set piece, 2 things to do, wow!
>assassins hideout
meme sneak minigame that for some reason kills you if you get caught
>4 copy pasted dungeons
>100 minibosses
4 different minibosses 100 times*^
>8 unique towns
in a world the size of rl Tokyo
>120 shrines
with copypasted mechanics, puzzles and assets
>korok puzzles
gta collectibles, woah
>and a lot more!!
nothing more*

>but this reviewers gave it a 10/10
they also did that for tLoU, and that game is 6 hours long, your point?

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Greatest game I've ever played.

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>>378742229
OP is a gayboy faggot

>>378747426
literally nothing in this post is true and it's completely based on your prejudices.

>>378748068
but reddit loves BotW, shouldn't be (You) going to your hugbox?

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>>378747994
>ndroids getting blasted and staying silent when confronted with arguments
every.time

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>>378747994
Th-Thats NOT TRUE DELET THIS NOW

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>>378747994

>>378746683
I can make literally the same list for the first 20 lvls of wow vanilla.

that's what you nintards find amazing, the beginning portion of a 10+ year old mmo.

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>>378748068
>YOU DON'T LIKE THING GO TO REDDIT
>>378748153
NO, YOU LIKE THING GO TO REDDIT

Fuck OFF

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>>378747994
And the denial continues.

>>378748153
redditor spotted

>>378748548
>An MMO with no real time combat and limited movement engine, versus a Zelda game that plays with the mobility and versatility of MGSV.
What did he mean by this?

>>378748548
Nobody said the content was next level or revolutionary, it's literally just a list of things to see and do. But /v/ will continue to pretend they don't count.

>>378747994
Autism.

>>378748746
>ndrone makes a list of things to do
>COOL HAHA FUCK OFF SONYPEPES
>notndrone makes a list countering said list
>AUTISM REEEE

ninten babies everyone

>>378747994
so having quest is bad??

boy, sonyger are a sad kin

>>378748684
>versus a Zelda game that plays with the mobility and versatility of MGSV
yeah, cause running around and climbing on things is enough to call something "the game of the decade". just hang yourself fool.
>>378748694
no retard. you didn't get the point. the point is that the gameplay behind those questlines (as well as their narrative) is as basic and rudimentary as the quests in an mmo.

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>>378748863
How can you counter a list of content? Is it in the gane or not?

You can either accept getting BTFO or keep whining like a baby.

>>378749045
bouncing from one npc to another is not content.

>>378749058
because its not nearly as interesting as the original lists claims it is, its literally a grind of repeating the same formula of
>complete dumb random mmo quest
>get access to shrine with garbage
its not content if its copypasted

>>378749049
No you don't get the point. The point is that salty kiddies like you desperately want to find some kind - ANY kind - of flaw to try and detract from the overwhelmingly positive critical appraise the game received. And you always get BTFO.

>the game has no content!
Anon lists a fuckton of content
>that content doesn't count!

>>378749058
are you just playing dumb or do you really don't understand that that "list of content" isn't anything special at all.

>>378749261
by that logic WoW should be the best game ever
>it has more content than every other game! even if its copypasted quests and objectives!!

dumb nintenposter

>>378749361
Nobody said it was anything special, it's just content. Somethings people will find memorable and great fun, just the side quest content in another Zelda game. You don't hear people bitching that Wind Waker, Majora's Mask and Twilight Princess had no content. But salty folks desperately want to find something wrong with BotW so they try the no content meme.

>>378749374
The content has nothing to do with how the game is designed or how it plays.

>>378749261
you're proof once more that you can't aruge with a nindroid, because you don't (or rarely) play non nintendo titles, you can't grasp the fact that the content in your best game of all time was already dune multiple times before, and much much better. But you don't give a fuck, you just like zelda and love being special around your normie friend every now and then when nintendo decides to rehash the same game for 1000th time.

>>378749771
Not an argument.

>>378749841
It IS an argument you stupid uneducated moron.

>>378748863
Seek help autist.

>>378749947
its an opinion at best, and a really biased one at that.

Why does nobody talk about how fun the game is to play?
The movement, the climbing and gliding gameplay rhythm, scavenging weapons and supplies, finding secrets and solving puzzles?

All that "MMO" content is palletable because the gameplay itself is fun.

>>378750050
>b-b-but its fun!!!!!
really getting desperate aren't we?

>>378750127
you're the only desperate one in here, kiddo

>>378750050
it's fun if you haven't played a modern game in the last 20 years, which you being an nintard is highly possible.

>>378750127
Games should be fun you stupid child. Or do you just enjoy looking at MUH GRAFIKS even though the game plays like absolute shit?

>>378750049
>opinions are biased
You might be onto something.

>>378750186
>can't name a single argument why his favorite game isn't rehashed trash everyone has played before
>no u
pathetic.

>>378750256
"its fun" is as descriptive and deep as "its comfy"

>>378742229
Yeah, it's pretty average overall. Not truly mediocre, not truly great. It's ambitious, but it doesn't really capitalize well on what it sets out to do and thus the varying quality all over the place feels notably egregious (particularly considering the sheer amount of worthless blessing shrines or mind numbingly easy combat trials)

>>378749782
Including BotW, there's only been 6 flagship home console flagship Zelda titles in the past 20 years, and each one is utterly unique and tries to be different.

There's been 18 CoD games since 2003. Keep crying.

>>378750050
>The movement, the climbing and gliding gameplay rhythm, scavenging weapons and supplies, finding secrets and solving puzzles?
minus the trivial puzzles, those attributes weren't enough for just cause to be called "BEST GAME EVER MADE", so why should it be a big deal in a zelda game?

7/10

Everyone else are switch owners justifying their purchase or autists who like the korok puzzles

>>378750573
yeah, you know your franchise is dead in corporate greed when you have to compare yourself to fucking cod.

>>378750127
>>378750229
>>378750369
Okay, I'll say it's mechanically solid and tight, with layers of depth and nuance.

That still tells you very little without playing it yourself
Text can barely convey the mechanical complexities of the game, which is why I mentioned all the points about movement and gameplay rhythm.
Since none of that mattered to you, I will stick to saying "fun".

Shitters who hate the game and shitters who like the game will both post their cherrypicked webms, and nobody will be convinced to change their minds because they never planned on listening to the other side of the arguement, and /v/ will continue to rot.
You never came here to debate, you just came to argue.

>>378742229
Not mediocre, but it was pretty good. Had a better time playing Twilight Princess HD than Breath of the Wild though.

>>378750628
Just Cause isn't even on the same planet of what Nintendo acheived with the world building and exploration in BotW.

>>378750769
Still not an argument. Try again.

>>378750805
what are those achievements in world building and exploration that nintendo achieved? can you name a few please?

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>>378750852
You don't have an argument. You'll just stomp your feet and cry to the four winds because you cannot accept that Nintendo made a good game. What is wrong with you?

>>378750852
Nah it is an argument tbqh

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>>378750852
top kek

>>378750805
>it revolutionized the open world genre
How the fuck did it do that

I'm starting to think that most nintendofags have just never played an open world game before.

>>378742229

Yeah it was. Good overworld and traversal, but the actual good bits are scattered way too far apart. Shrines, quests that unlock shrines, and korok seeds.

>>378749058
oh you're that nnigger that always posts that image thinking it furthers your baseless arguments

>>378750769
>about movement and gameplay rhythm.
your're talking about all those useless horses you can catch that feel like riding an elephant so that you're better off traveling by foot, or the rhythm in which a weapon breaks every 3 minutes so most of your time spent in a battle is going through your inventory and menu navigating?

>>378751026
>>378751038
>>378751108
>""he"" is right tho
>all those memes
Your post have as much arguments as BotW's content.

>>378751186
For me, the rhythm was
>backflip
>rush
>stand still
>backflip
>rush
>stand still
ad infinitum

DELETE THIS!!!!!!!!!!! NINTENTARDS GAMES ARE FOR NINTENDOBABIES!!!!!!!!!! HORIZON IS FOR ADULTS!!!!!!!!

>>378750913
The ability to climb any suface gives the player an unparalleled amount of freedom to do as they please. The open ended nature of the game allows the player to experiment and fashion their own solutions to exploration. The weather, the climate, the environment are all intricately connected - informing the player's choices and, in turn, influencing how the player interacts with the world. Nintendo created a living, breathing world of consequence. >>378751026


>b-but other games did that!

No they did not.

>>378751186
I didn't bother with a horse, I just used a BOTW trainer and enabled x8 speed.

>>378751127
>Elder Scrolls has floaty combat
>Witcher has terrible swordplay with okay spells
>RDR is a rooty tooty pointandshooty with wonky gunplay, facilitating a need for Deadeye
Zelda has actually good combat with lots of things to experiment with, though the limited movesets on weapons still leave room for improvement

>>378746683
Gotta admit the "caves" in BotW are pretty lame though.

>>378751249
Isn't HE a meme too?

>>378747076
That's because people latched onto Undertale's characters, whereas BotW doesn't have much in the way of memorable characters. How many posts in any given Undertale thread are actually about the gameplay?

>>378751327
>The ability to climb any suface gives the player an unparalleled amount of freedom to do as they please.
>freedom to do as they please.
no. it just gives you the ability to climb on things. In actuality you climb towers and glide to markers on the map, something well established in the industry as "ubisoft towers".
>The weather, the climate, the environment are all intricately connected - informing the player's choices and, in turn, influencing how the player interacts with the world. Nintendo created a living, breathing world of consequence.
The weather is solely used to artificially bar player to getting to where they're suppose to go or to sidetrack them. It's a nice trick sure, but nothing remotely worth the praise of being "planets away" from something.

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OP here
>made a thread a while ago after completing the game asking how people liked it and stuff
>0 replies
>make a copypasted shitpost thread
>100+ replies

>>378751392
>Zelda has actually good combat
see
>>378751280

>>378742229
Nope, sorry. Still the best 3D Zelda by a massive lead.

>>378751868
What was your favorite:
>Region
>Divine Beast
>Character
And what did you think of Zelda? Did you find her diary as well as the king's diary?

>>378751707
>it just gives you the ability to climb on things. In actuality you climb towers and glide to markers on the map,

So you cleary haven't played the game. You can literally climb EVERYTHING. The towers - unlike ubisoft games - only provide a bare layout of each province, there are NO markers at all, you have to find everything yourself by exploring.

>>The weather is solely used to artificially bar player to getting to where they're suppose to go or to sidetrack them.

What fucking absolute nonsense is this?

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every time you make this thread i'll be here to say no

>>378751972
Like I said, experimentation.
It is infinitely faster to just smack shit with a boulder than to attack with a handheld weapon like that guy.
Enemies can also be drowned, killed with elemental weakness [fire arrow on ice enemies is instakill for example], etc.

>>378752148
should've picked up that acorn

>>378752105
I think the game was a solid 7/10 but I'll play.
>Gerudo (though pretty empty, I loved the atmosphere)
>Camel was most challenging/rewarding
>Rito? Characters were forgettable

>>378751327
>The ability to climb any suface gives the player an unparalleled amount of freedom to do as they please.
this is like saying that the magic system in skyrim gives you an infinite amount of freedom in experimenting with the magic elements.
why do nintards always talk like devs pitching their games?

>>378752223
That's not really combat though, it's just different ways the enemies can die.

The 'combat' in terms of mechanics is nothing special. I'm not one to complain about a game being too easy, but the combat was rather mindless.
>not in danger? Spam
>in danger? Be patient and Fury rush

>>378752364
Okay, tell me another video game which provides freedom exploration on the same level as BotW.

Just one game. Any game.

There are NONE.

>>378752545
>freedom exploration
wat is this

>>378752148
>oh look! physics!!!!!
NINTENDO WON!
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D
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W
O
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>>378752629
Freedom OF exploration. My bad.

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>>378752660

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Ancient armor was the only good part of the game.

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It was a 8/10 game tbqh

I don't understand the 10/10 best game ever meme.

I liked the world and exploration

Story and dungeons were underwhelming

WE

WUZ

CHAMPIONS

>>378752750
the fuck was the point of this? they made it seem like you would be using this mechanic throughout the game, but you literally only have to do it one time and its during the tutorial

>>378752545
Well, I have very fond memories of wandering around the world in Oblivion and NEVER getting near the main quest.

I unironically think Bethesda does a nice job with giving freedom to the player (aside from maybe Fallout 4). That said, Todd Howard fucking loves BOTW. I think you may be right that Zelda gives a great ability to explore; however, the reward for doing so is minimal in comparison to games like The Witcher III or Skyrim.

Shrines get a bit boring desu

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>>378747994
The same way that pic nitpicks everything the game offers as something worth saying, you're as bad reducing every single thing listed as something boring or outright bad.

>assassins hideout
meme sneak minigame that for some reason kills you if you get caught

yeah, get out

It's a good game. But it's okay to not personally enjoy what it aims to achieve.

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>>378752952
>only 1 time
because you only think with your eyes, you got think with your axe

BOTW is the only game I've ever had dreams about.

It's kind of scary, thousands of hours of monster hunter and mega man yet 0 dreams. There's just something about the way BOTW encourages exploration and creativity that spurs my mind even when I've gone to sleep.

Also fuck me there are lots of OHKOs in this game, hard mode is going to suck

>>378752952

I think the point is that you CAN do it, not that the game requires you to.

>>378752137
so when the tower dick cums on your iphone you don't get a portion of a map and locations revealed? you can't place markers on shrines and shit with your camera ?
get the fuck out you lying ass.

>>378752545
just cause.
there. so much about your argument

>>378753363
>so when the tower dick cums on your iphone
kek

no. it's a wonderful game.

SS was mediocre but not this one.

Coming from a Non Nintendo bot, BoTW is an amazing game. My first real Nintendo game, and it will probably be their best game ever.

Far from perfect, for example questing needs a LOT of work and sometimes feels like there is no side quests available (lot of shrine quest but those dont count). Story was shockingly good, world is like no other, gameplay/atmosphere is like Ni No Kuni + Skyrim, aka amazing.

If they add a lot more interesting side quests in a sequel one day I think it there would be nothing stopping it from being one of the best games ever.

>>378753443
You can't fight the final boss once you finish the tutorial though

So much about your argument

>>378753138
judging by your taste in games it's a miracle you're even capable of reading and writing, retard.

>>378742229
Music wasn't memorable at all, and I feel like it needed some more linearity, I got bored too quick because it was too open world that I didn't know what to do first and with the choices it just made it feel like a chore, I need structure in my game.

Is this decent criticism?

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>>378742229
It is a 10/10 game but a 8/10 Zelda game.
I want an open world with big dungeons that you can find randomly just like Zelda 1. The Divine Beasts were pretty damn cool and innovative but they were also too small and felt more like an extra dungeon than a full fledged dungeon.
Also, something that no one seems to point out and was, imo, also a fault in Zelda ALBW: DUNGEONS.NEED.ITEMS.
Seriously, it is what made dungeons fun, going inside, not knowing what the fuck you're supposed to do in certain rooms, finally get a new item which feels great and then figuring out all the puzzles in the dungeon. I am surprised that critics don't ever seem to mention this point.

>>378753673
>why is this big sword so slow
>why is there no lock on
>my feet hurt
>I'll just go back to dark souls

>>378753719
>not knowing what the fuck to do in certain rooms
Are you mentally retarded. It's obvious every single time if you have a brain

>>378752105
>>378752339
not me

it is my favorite Zelda game by far
>Desert
>Ruta
it was the first beast that I did, and turns out it was the most fleshed out of the 4, with all those stones with lore, the cutscenes and the feels for Mipha, I was quite dissapointed with Rudania and Medoh, but Nabooris was really nice too
>Zelda
I loved her development throught the memories and I was really pumped out to go help her at the end of the journey

>>378753676
I would say yes, but with the inclusion of the radar , the glowing stamps, and the objective dots that tell you where to go, i have to disagree. Music being bland is the truth, but some tracks stand out, such as the Vah Medo dungeon. A more valid criticism is the fact that the reward from the completing all shrines is so lackluster.

>>378753819
No, you did not understand what I meant. I mean the rooms where you have to use the new item but don't have it yet. How the fuck would you know what to do if you don't even have the answer to the problem?

>>378753998
b-but /v/ told me to use pro HUD or I'm a casual!

Has Nintendo state anything about if there would be a direct sequel one day? What Nintendo has here is simply amazing and to start from scratch like they always do would be fucking criminal.

No need to take 5-7 years to make a shitty motion control Zelda game like last time, just take what they made and make it better. Same engine, same combat, same universe. Just better.

I think you Nintendo fans are too used to seeing a brand new Zelda game and would riot if there was a similar sequel. Oh well, i guess ill just have to play BoTW over in like 5 years.

>>378753719
People were getting bored by the predictabilty of it all.
>Oh look, another Water Temple
>Oh look, the hookshot
>Oh look, those switches look strange. I wonder if I'll find an item which will let.me activate once I beat the halfway miniboss?

People were crying out for change. Nintendo gave it to them. Although I do think all those things will return eventually.

>>378742229
Not mediocre but overrated af, MM is still the best Zelda game to date, we need more eerie Zelda games, that's more innovative imo that another open world meme.

Yes i'm biased, just way too many open world games lately, and not a single one brings something new to the table.

>>378754249
Yes. They said all zeldas would be 'open-air' from now on

Oh man oh man if they add long dungeons or hell more dungeons I'll be so happy

>>378754337
don't forget that the entire plot of BotW is copied directly from MM
>activate four of thing
>fight final boss

>>378753606
you can't get to the flying bird ship prior to the actual quest. so much about "you can go anywhere from the start"

>>378754262
It's one of the things that made a Zelda game fun even if predictable. They could have taken the unpredictability out of the overworld (which they did with BotW) and tried new things with the structure of the dungeons. As much as SS is criticised overall, it had great dungeon design even if the items were lackluster. The Ancient Cistern is there to show that new things can be done in dungeon design even if the overall structure is predictable.

>>378754249
Nintendo rarely ever do direct sequels. DLC is the route they'll take to keep BotW ongoing.

I imagine the next Zelda will be completely different again but they'll probably build on the open world mechanic.

Normally, Nintendo come up with a gameplay idea first and then try to build the world around it. During the development of BotW, they had an idea to include the Minish race but they dropped it because they couldn't make it work.


It wouldn't surprise me if Nintendo went back to that idea for a future sequel. Imagine a game like BotW but the player is shrunk down to Minish level - puddles would be like lakes, grass would be like forests, tiny bugs would be huge terrifying monsters.

>>378742894
Zelda 1 is a superior game though

>>378754704

>grass would be like forests

That sounds good on paper but it's not possible to design such a game.

>>378754780
Now this is called nostalgia goggles

>>378754451
How is this relevant to the point at all

And BTW you can go there, use the minecart trick. So much for your argument

>>378754910
Depends on the art style.

>>378754780
Zelda became good from Zelda 3 afterwards gramps.

>>378754451
>he doesn't know
EL OH EL

Bet you don't know you can skip the tutorial shrines too and get off without the paraglider

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>>378754910
They managed to do it 18 years ago

>>378755004
no you tit, you can't land on it.
meaning it's a very limited game in it's exploration and nothing remotely revolutionary as you fags like to lie.

>>378755258
yes you can. You really don't know how?

Also how do you arrive at that conclusion? Even if what you said is true, its only one area

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>>378755258
>you can't land on it.
>meaning it's a very limited game in it's exploration and nothing remotely revolutionary as you fags like to lie.

This is some desperate shit.

>>378755016
What do you have in mind? I personally can't see how a carefully designed vast 3D world can contain an exponentially bigger 3D world that is not procedural bullshit.

>>378742894
Number of screens from Zelda 1's over-world: 128
Number of screens from Zelda 1's dungeons: 452

Dungeons have always been the main focus of the Zelda series, not the over-world. People heralding BOTW's huge open-world crafting/survival "gameplay" as a throwback to the original is such a load of shit and doesn't make any sense at all.

>>378755540
well the games biggest asset is you can go wherever you want whenever you want in the world. and it's not true. todd howard gets shit for the " you can climb that mountain" meme, but nintendo is the same.

>>378755781
You can do it by the way anon. You can land n it

Also that is far from the games biggest asset anon

>>378756048
just read the thread asshole. every ndroid states that it's openness and mobility of link is it's biggest asset when they get proven wrong on everything else.

>>378755685
I wasn't really thinking about a game where you could swap between being big and small. Maybe just a game where you're small all the time. You get shrunk down in the opening cutscene and thats it. The game could take place in a your own back garden - shrunk down it would fell as vast as Hyrule but they visual aesthetic of feeling new and fresh.

Fuck knows, just throwing ideas out there. But Nintendo have explored this idea before in the Minish Cap and Pikmen games. Historically, if Nintendo cannot include something in a game, they'll eventually come back around to it in a later game.

>>378756234
>proven wrong
???
????
Yes its openness and mobility is a big part. You CAN go anywhere, including on the bird, using mobility

>>378750369
you're not naming any argument either you retarded faggot. fucking kill yourself

>>378755781
So you're complaing that you can't break the fucking game?

>>378756305
you.cant. the birds top portion is an unfinished mess.

>>378754141
>using pro hud ever

>>378755762
>BOTW
>crafting
>survival
Have you played the game anon

Also about zelda 1, you know what the dungeons look like? Exactly the same as the overworld, but indoors. Even the density is around the same

>>378756403
What? You literally can you sad nigger.

>>378756234
Dude it's supposed to be open world, but you're not supposed to be able to WALK everywhere. Why should you be able to walk on air? If you want to go fly, you need to find a way to fly. And that's what's so good about this game, you can always find a way to get there by just exploring.
By your argument you should also be able to get into the center of the volcano without melting.

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>>378743265
>>378747994
>>378748863
>>378749258
>>378751170

Why is this greentexter memespouter subhuman still triggered about this game 3 months later? He's easy to spot too due to his latent autism.

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>>378742229
The only thing that really, really, really bothered me was the constant rain which a) made the game less fun since you had to unequip weapons sometimes and couldn't climb anymore and b) makes the game look bad, really, really bad, foggy, brown, grey, dark, ugly, while the game usually is very beautiful.

And the framerate but they fixed this.

Otherwise it's a 11/10 game considering inflated scores today.

>>378743106
>The puzzles are short and confined to a single room.
Literally the opposite of this is the case with the four beasts which is an amazing thing.

>>378756919
>>made the game less fun
>not using electric weapons and killing EVERYTHING

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BotW = OoT > WW >TP > MM >>>>>>> SS

>>378756919
>considering inflated scores today.

Good point. I think BotW received so many 10/10 scores because journalists have been handing out 8/10 and 9/10 to mediocre shite for years. They had no choice but to give BotW 10/10.

>>378756886
he's probably the OP

>>378742229
It was a disappointment for me. The core content was really lacking, and the open world meme got old because the content was repetitive as fuck. The exact same problem that Wind Waker had. But BotW doesn't have the excuse of a rushed development cycle.

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Why are there so many autists here and elsewhere that go out of their way to defend every last aspect of this game, even the parts that were utter dogshit?

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>>378756886
>/v/ is one person

>>378757163
OoT>MM>TP>WW=BotW>SS

>>378755070
But it didn't, Gen x kid.

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>>378746683
It's also the only redpilled game of our age.

>>378747994
>shooting minigame
Nothing wrong with this since those are and always were some of the most fun minigames in Zelda and games in general, and the package is what makes it great. You know, that whole corrupted dragont hing the person you quoted is talking about. A huge Asian dragon flying around a fucking gigantic mountain and you are flying through the sky along with it? To its awesome music? Amazing. Atmosphere. This is called atmosphere. And atmosphere is extremely important for Zelda.

Not reading the rest of your shitpost. You are a sad piece of shit. Enjoy your PC indies or nigger shooter games on PS4.

>>378757267
Like what? Only thing I can think of is combat shrines, and no one fucking defends them

>>378757267
Because it's THE game right now. They think they're part of a gaming phenomena, the next OoT. Just wait a few months to a year for it to die down, then we can finally have honest discussions.

>>378757267
Because it's a console exclusive.

>>378757337
I'm okay with any ranking that doesn't put MM above OoT or SS above anything

>>378757337
>>TP>WW
OG WW or WWHD?

>>378757253
I think deciding to make it a Switch launch title halfway though dev rushed things a little. Not much of an excuse though.

>>378757419
didn't you say that a few months ago too? Wonder if you will say it again some time later

>>378757361
I do because they were fun and unlike 90% the enemies in the world (after you upgraded you gear somewhat) actually still somewhat challenging, at least the hard ones.

They were basically a parrying and dodging tutorial and parrying is a lot of fun.

Also you can kill the enemy in a few seconds with the right food.

Not sure what your problem is with them.

>>378757267
Because autism. It is widely known that Nintendo fanboys grew with autist loyalty.
I swear i have read stupid shit. People defending the ridiculous weapon durability, the 900 korok seeds and even one /v/tard said that the frame drops were fake news because he hasn't experienced them.

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>>378757442
Not him but I always assume WWHD for any sane, modern ranking of the game

>>378757540
The problem with them is that THEY ARE LITERALLY THE SAME

>>378753103
but 5 minutes after they teach you about the axe they give you crynosis, which would get you to the raft in that webm faster with a lot less precision involved

>>378757602
Nothing wrong with weapon durability, unless you are an autist with replacement and hoarding

And what is your beef with the koroks?

>>378757602
>complaining about weapon durability
Look at this faggot and laugh

>>378742229
Yes. It's just a mishmash of contemporary open world and traditional Zelda elements. Instead of being the best of one or the other it's a mediocre mix of both. Still a good game but the total lack of replay value speaks for itself. The world is wide but surprisingly shallow. It's so massive but boring that it really isn't worth experiencing more than once unless you're a really hardcore fan. I enjoyed the game a lot but I can't see myself playing it again for a few months at the earliest.

Really could have done with an interesting postgame/NG+ to keep it relevant.

>>378757895
>total lack of replay value
I have no idea why people judge a game on replay value, especially for games about finding shit

>>378757895
>BOTW is a mediocre open world
Name 1 (ONE) open world with as much variety in environments, movement options and interactions with the environment. Seriously just ONE

>>378757748
>Nothing wrong with weapon durability, unless you are an autist with replacement and hoarding
I didn't say there was something wrong with weapon durability, it was perfect in OoT and many other games. The ridiculous weapon durability in BotW is undefendable, unless you have autism.

>>378742363
fpwp
>>378743265
>copy pasted bosses
>unrewarding "progression"
>paper weapons
how can people defend these things?
>>378746683
>arrange a wedding
i would buy 60 switches just for this.

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>>378757361
>at least a dozen terrible music pieces
>example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AkQcaE2GDLU
>the score in general was lackluster
>only one music piece for all horseback riding (a core game mechanic), which gets extremely repetitive and annoying
>only one of the dungeons took more than 10 minutes to solve
>there were maybe 5 decent shrines out of 120
>sidequests were nearly all terrible, with the majority stooping to fetch/rupee quests
>goron and rito areas were garbage compared to zora and gerudo areas
>every enemy was far too easy except lynels, which were just about right (ganon literally has less hitpoints than a lynel)
>weapons break about 75% faster than they should (try swinging a real tree branch and breaking it in 5 hits)
>combat relies on flurry rush too much
>no unique weapons, they're all just 5 classes with different themes for each
>guardian fights are boring, repetitive, and just annoying
>food is too overpowered
>link can't swim more than 10 feet without drowning initially
>burger king explains the entire plot in the first 5 minutes of the game
>all of the writing was terrible
>all of the voice acting was terrible
I could go on...

>>378742229
all zeldas kind of are now that I think about it.

>>378758064
No YOU have autism

And no it had almost zero presence in OOT, so just admit you don't like to see shit break because of your autism

>>378758130
stupid anon, BoTW fans doesn't like game's main content.

>>378758130
>terrible
>horse riding is a core game mechanic
>only 5 good shrines, which is false, because all the shrine quests are good
>MUH WEAPON BREAKS
>link can't swim because I dumped everything into hearts and oh btw I have no idea cryonsis exists
>guardian fights are boring because I said so
>all of the writing is terrible because I said so
>all voice acting is bad because I only played in english
>only one took more than 10 minutes to solve because I followed a guide lol
>rito and goron areas are worse compared to 2 extremely good areas, which makes them garbage

>>378758107
Because they are false? Dude how are the bosses even copy pasted? The looks are different, their movesets are different, their theme is different, their arena is different

>>378758461
>defending weapon breaking
i hope you enjoy fighting lynels with your fists.

>>378758130
You try swinging a tree branch of about the same thickness irl, it should break on its first hit with any solid object

Actually the durability is overdone

>>378758130
Jesus fucking Christ. All of this is so much bullshit I don't even know where to begin.

>>378757540
>combat shrines are challenging
what?

>>378758057
Every time someone asks for this people respond with Oblivion or Just Cause and there's never a response other than "no no you don't understand. It rains in BOTW"

>>378758646
Nope, but I enjoy fighting them with bombs and arrows

Besides how are you breaking your weapons on lynels when mounting doesn't use up your durability?

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>>378742229
Nah, it's great. Just finished it for the third time actually.

>>378758206
>And no it had almost zero presence in OOT
So you get how it was perfect then.
>Get giant knife. Broken weapon that can one shot any mob
>It break and you have to pay to repair it
as oppose to BotW
>Go to shrine to get a weapon 3 times stronger that your current club or sword
>"I won't use it because it breaks"
This is commonly known as autism, people. Nothing to see here, move along.

>>378758691
Pathetic.

You can't muster an argument against BotW can you?

>>378758691
>oblivion
Not as much interaction
>just cause
not as much variety in environments

Next, still waiting for one

>>378758646
>not using arrows, updrafts and erections to take care of a lynel

What are you? Gay?

>>378742363
this

>>378758784
>saving a good weapon because you are scared of pixels appearing on the screen
If you are scraping by with the shit weapons you currently have you don't even need it

So yes, autism.

>>378758130
Agree wholeheartedly

The writing was so fucking bad. I could've cooked up that plot over a bowl of cereal

>>378757982
Most open world games have excellent replayability. BotW has almost zero.

Replayability also helps make a game feel it was worth whatever you paid for it.

>>378758057
You're overestimating how well BotW does these things. It has, what, four different environments? Grass, snowy, volcano, desert? I guess steppes as well if you wanna be generous?

Which is fine, but the problem is that there isn't enough in the world itself to make these different environments interesting. There aren't enough unique and memorable little things. If the world was half the size then it would only benefit the game.

As for movement options there aren't that many at all. Traveling on foot, traveling on horse, and gliding, right? I guess swimming and climbing as well but this isn't something I find that impressive. The climbing is great but once you've climbed a mountain it's been climbed. That's it. Very few of the mountains are actually worth climbing outside of hunting for shrines and Koroks.

And the environmental interaction is nice but doesn't really amount to anything in the long run. I'm really not trying to be a hardass about this, I'm just not that impressed by being able to set grass on fire or cut down trees. You do it a few times, occasionally you pull off something neat, and that's it.

It just feels like a hodgepodge of features with no depth or meaning. The game world was clearly built around being big instead of being interesting and I think it really suffers for it.

>>378758784
There are champion weapons you gain from beating each shrine. These can be repaired.

If your intelligent, you'll put markers on the map where you found powerful weapons and just return every blood to restock. The durability is a complete non-argument it's up there with the NO CONTENT meme as a desperate attempt to find a flaw with the game.

>>378758747
>>378758919
>link can climb anything
>but he can't throw a punch to save his life
now I'm questioning can link masturbate or not?

>>378758691
>Oblivion
It doesn't even have levitate

>>378758675
So you won't.

Nice.

>>378759030
Still waiting for you to name one open world game. You also missed tons of mobility options with stasis and magnesis, likely because you didn't bother with interaction

There are forests, volcanos, deserts, tundras, mountains, beaches, plains, highlands.

>>378758461
>terrible
you think that piece is good?
here, have another shitshow: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3PE_y4GXmU
>horse riding is a core game mechanic
it is
the game forces you to ride a horse
>only 5 good shrines, which is false, because all the shrine quests are good
you cannot be serious
>follow where the swords are pointing XD
>don't step on the flowers!
>put the ball in the hole
>put the ball in the hole again!
>kill the copy-paste giants and put their balls in the holes!
>MUH WEAPON BREAKS
care to explain any reason why this is a good mechanic?
>link can't swim because I dumped everything into hearts and oh btw I have no idea cryonsis exists
"I don't know what "initially" means"
>guardian fights are boring because I said so
how are they not boring?
>all of the writing is terrible because I said so
find one piece of good writing in the entire game, I'll wait
>all voice acting is bad because I only played in english
so you're acknowledging that the VA was bad?
>only one took more than 10 minutes to solve because I followed a guide lol
"I'm literally so retarded that I need a guide to solve these, therefore everyone else needed one too!"
>rito and goron areas are worse compared to 2 extremely good areas, which makes them garbage
They were both garbage.

>>378759048
He'd have to seeing all the teasing Zelda does. Or maybe that's why he wants to kill

>>378759030
Mate you are a boring ass if that's all the methods you use to travel

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>>378759030
>Most open world games have excellent replayability. BotW has almost zero.

>>378759262
>forests, volcanos, deserts, tundras, mountains, beaches, plains, highlands

The fucking NSMB games have those.

>>378759110
Apart from the voice acting being shit every thing you mentioned is either unquantifiabley objective or an outright lie.

The voice acting has now been patched btw. :^)

>>378759379
not him but I don't know what other climates you think exist that BotW doesn't already have

>>378759262
BotW doesn't have tundras or highlands

>>378758845
Oblivion has more interesting interactions that BOTW, come on. At least the world is interesting in Oblivion. BOTW and Just Cause are basically just "it's big right?"

There are huge chunks of uninspired map in BOTW. Basically every coastline and the middle of the map suck dick. Even when you find something cool (treasure in the triangle water or whatever), it's some amber.

Pilgrims Trench (Skyrim) is an example of an environmental reward that is good in itself.
>swimming out to a harbor
>can't find it
>look down
>massive ship graveyard underneath

Say what you will, but at Bethesda creates interesting worlds, if less interactive (?). BOTW and Just Cause are boring to explore.

>>378759379
What a desperately irrelevant argument.

>>378759475
Lack of raining dicks and lovecraftian from beyond

>>378759312
>shitshow
>implyinh
>game forces you to ride a horse
>when horse riding is the most actively discouraged due to many instances of elevated land
>they are bad because I put an XD at the back, wow gotcha!
>explain why it is a bad mechanic
>I didn't know I had cryonsis once I left the tutorial, I am retarded
>oh man I'll wait for him to list stuff so I can tell him its shit anyway
>english VA bad= all VA bad! Gotcha!
>oh noes he realized I used a guide, shit call him retarded!
>both garbage because I said so

Okay anon, nice try

>>378759312
>the game forces you to ride a horse
not him but what the fuck are you talking about

You don't realize it at first but the game is actually super short, you just spend a lot of time exploring and traversing the world.

The entire sequence of main quests is:

>Plateau
>Kakariko Village
>Rito Divine Beast
>Zora Divine Beast
>Goron Divine Beast
>Gerudo Divine Beast
>Master Sword (optional)
>Memories (optional)
>Castle

>>378759535
>amber
what

Also BOTW has many examples of that, are you baiting?

>>378759531
Fuck, used the wrong term. I wanted to say snowy areas. Also gerudo highlands. Ring a bell?

>>378759656
>I didn't play the game - the post
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWEOHroHJpk

>>378759531
Parts of Hebra and west Tabantha could count as tundra, as for highlands there the Gerudo Highlands.

>>378759656
yeah, I have no idea. Smells like bad bait desu, horse is the least efficient way to travel in the game

>>378759764
Holy shit that is some next level QTEs

>>378759262
>Still waiting for you to name one open world game.

I can't because BotW just samples from tons of things other games have done before. I don't give games a pat on the back for mashing things together, especially if they aren't done in an interesting way.

>>378759371
I don't understand, are you implying there aren't open world games with way more replayability than BotW or are you saying BotW has replayability? Because it really doesn't. At least not yet.

>>378759764
I did play the game, just forgot about that phase, I'm pretty sure you could get off the horse and do it without one anyway, though.

>>378759764
But you can get off the horse and fight him on foot

Have YOU played the game

The boss music also drowns the horse music out, so

>>378757312
nice paint skills faggot

>>378759603
>literally zero rebuttals
hilarious

you're only proving my point >>378757267

>>378759893
How is BOTW not replayable at least once, in a straight to castle run? The fact that you can entirely skip the tutorial to go for a completely different run makes the game pretty replayable. Plus there are autistic restriction runs you can do

>>378759907
>game forces you to ride a horse
>"no it deosn't"
>literally a cutscene showing you getting on a horse
>"b-but you can get off the horse later!"
Nice moving the goalposts, faggot.

>>378759994
Anon to rebutt you have to make a convincing arguments with points. If you state X is bad with no substantiation there is nothing to rebutt

>>378759893
how is BotW not replayable?
There's numerous ways to do most of the puzzles in the game and even completely different dialogue sequences and optional quest objectives depending on which order you do things (e.g. some people skip almost everything about the quest leading up to Zora's Domain, leading to a different greeting from Prince Sidon when you arrive)

>>378760030
You cannot skip the tutorial; are you high?

>>378759719
>BOTW has many examples of that, are you baiting?
Err perhaps they just failed to stick in my memory because they were so...good? Environmental rewards I can think of:
Leviathan
Labyrinth island
First time I saw a Muldoga in the desert
Skeleton in the desert
Maybe dark forest, though it really wasn't that impressive. Pretty standard.
I liked the shrines on the duel peaks

I'm really struggling here. The world is mostly empty. Even then, these pale in comparison to the vaults of Fallout 3 or environments of elder scrolls games. The worlds of Bethesda games are, in my opinion, more creative (I'm not sure this is even debatable) and more exciting to explore.

>>378760072
No anon you are moving the goalposts

First you claim the horse riding music is bad and it plays often because you are forced to ride a horse. But in the situation you mentioned you can't even hear the music

>>378760072
if you get off before even moving on the horse, cna you really call that 'forcing you to ride a horse'?

>>378760154
>he doesnt know
Youtube plateau skip, there is a spot you can ride a boulder to

>>378760140
Replayable = come up with new ways to beat the puzzles and try and get some new dialogue

Kill me

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>>378759805
>>378759719
These are highlands

The Gerudo "Highlands" are just another set of snowy mountains identical to Hebra.

>>378760172
>vaults of Fallout 3 or environments of elder scrolls games
this has to be a joke, almost all the vaults are the fucking same. I'll give you TES to a degree (at least if you're referring more to Morrowind as Oblivion and Skyrim especially have pretty crap copy-paste environments and environmental rewards)

>>378742229
no

>>378759994
People are tired trying to deal with salt from folks like you.

BotW isn't perfect, nothing ever is. But the best /v/ can muster is to try and elevate minor nitpicks and try and pretend they're MASSIVE GAME BREAKING FAULTS!

It's eyerollingly pathetic.

You're complaining about the music? Seriously? Even though the subtle and spare music is a deliberate design choice to compliment the game's themes of isolation and desolation? That's the level of retarded non-issues you're bringing to the table?

I challenge you right now to name ONE glaring fault the game has. Just one.

>>378760310
doing this just kills you when you walk a certain distance from the plateau, and enemies on the overworld will not spawn
>a glitch is a game mechanic

>>378760172
Shrine quests are one
Eventide is another
Colissuem

Actually I have no idea what you count as environmental reward because you listed a skeleton in the desert (???)

>>378760030
When I say "replay" I mean really replaying it, not just rushing straight to the final boss because the game allows you to.

>>378760140
Because it's massive and boring and nothing of consequence changes between playthroughs?

Most open world games have stuff like classes, factions, side quests with different endings, etc. to vary up the gameplay between playthroughs.

After totally completing BotW one time I can't imagine playing it again. The magic of exploring Hyrule for the first time is gone. There is no wonder in it anymore and there never will be.

>>378760345
The vaults are not the same. Honestly, not at all. I'm surprised to hear this is as a criticism; I've always considered the vaults to be some of the most rewarding things to explore. They may look the same, but each vault has a different story/atmosphere. I loved finding new ones.

As for copy pasted environments, surely you must think that the south eastern part of BOTW is the same thing over and over?

>>378760313
That's not what I meant, you don't have to go out of your way to do these things differently, slight differences in which way you head to first can change how you play through these areas. It's not as replayable as some linear games, sure, but it has a lot more replayability than other open world games I can think of.
>>378760335
highlands can still be snowy, anon. Nonetheless, there's terrain just like that in Akkala and on the outskirts of Central Hyrule.

>>378742229
No way. This shits on every other Zelda, except the first, third, and Gameboy installments.

>>378760224
>two dozen stables
>half the population of hyrule lives in stables
>half of quests come from stables
>half of the minigames involve horses
>horses are everywhere on the map
>a dozen quests require horses
>game forces you to ride horse for the final end battle
...
>hurr horseback riding isn't a central game mechanic!
There is no excuse for putting that singular shitty repetitive theme for instances of horseback riding.

>>378742229
The dungeon bosses weren't particularly interesting, and neither were the dungeons.

However, this game fucking nails everything else. My only hope in the next one is that they reintroduce the proper dungeons that take you underground - and also ditch the sheikah shrines. That shit got real old real quick. Gimme, I dunno, small monster dungeons or something. Trials are lame.

Also, the items we've grown to love. I need me some hookshot. Also, I feel like the sheikah slate was an end-all item - I prefer using classic maps and a book of mudora to translate sheikah writing.

Just get me the fuck away from this whole "Ancient yet radically advanced civilization" thing that the series seems to love so much.

However, aside from these gripes, the game was absolutely fucking amazing and fun as all hell to play. It nails down what makes open world games fun - exploration and adventure.

>>378760481
I was talking about the skeleton that you find when you wander through the sandstorm (has the fairy). I thought it was well-done. It was nice to emerge from the sandstorm and find this giant skeletal structure housing the final fairy. Didn't expect it.

Eventide Island was great, I forgot. I really did enjoy that. Colosseum was nothing special, gotta say.

>>378760431
>I challenge you right now to name ONE glaring fault the game has.
Weapon Durability
Piss-Easy Combat
Non-Existent "Dungeons"
Shitty Score
Shitty Voice Acting
Shitty Writing

>>378742229
Yes.

Easily the worst Zelda game I've played. It shouldn't even be called a Zelda game.

>>378760545
gameplay-wise, they are the same. Yes, they usually have a plot surrounding them and some suitable lore (making them great for worldbuildings), but the gameplay and even how they look is generally identical.
>surely you must think that the south eastern part of BOTW is the same thing over and over?
Are you talking about the jungle area around Faron/Necluda? Yeah, I suppose so, but it still has points of interest within it - Farosh is frequently found there, for example; as is his lake and one of the springs (I think the spring of power). I never suggested though that BotW is without repetition, as it certainly isn't (mob camps are often literal copy-pastes), just that it has plenty of unique areas nonetheless.

>>378760698
>forces you to ride a horse
>stable=horses are a central mechanic although it has only a little to do with horses, and more to do with rest and teleportation
>a dozen quests, like only 2
>horses are everywhere, so they are central!
What weak arguments

>>378760481
What do people like about the coliseum?

It has just one underpowered lynel and enemies with elemental weapons with no perks (making farming useless)

>>378742894
>Zelda 1
>4 minidungeons with shitty design.

>>378760925
most stumble across it early in the game since it's very close to the great plateau, and at that point in time even the weaker lynels are a headache.

>>378760784
>weapon durability
Not a flaw
>piss easy combat
Yes
>non-existent dungeons
Hyrule castle is one, otherwise yes
>shitty score
Good songs outnumber bad ones 10:1
>shitty voice acting
Play in spanish then, otherwise agreed
>shitty writing
How? Most characters are well written, although cliche, and the dialogue has lots of charm

>>378749049
What game gives good quests with unique and engaging combat, anon? What are some of your recommendations so I can actually play """"QUALITY"""" games?

>>378760935
Yes, actually. Do you even remember what the """dungeons"""" in zelda 1 are like? Little puzzles, little items, literally one room at a time, very similar to BOTW

>>378746683
>I haven't played a non-Nintendo game for 10 years the post.

>>378750127
Are games not supposed to be fun?

>>378761178
>I am strawmanning and projecting the post

>>378757267
I see statements like this about any game that's popular, be it a Nintendo release or a Sony release or an Xbox release - the fact of the matter is that people that like the game aren't necessarily "defending" the weaker aspects of it, it's simply that they don't feel these weaker parts are as bad as others feel - which is why they like the game as much as they do. Or, to put it another way, it's just different strokes for different folks.

/v/'s autism though means they'll never understand this concept.

>>378761047
>70% of gameplay is finding replacement weapons
>weapon durability is not a flaw

>Hyrule castle is one, otherwise yes
No. You can get inside the final room in 20 seconds with Revali's gale and in 3-5 minutes with a starting character

>How? Most characters are well written, although cliche, and the dialogue has lots of charm
cliche is not well written
the writing was sub-par even in comparison to other Zelda titles

>>378750852
Only if you're willing to argue, friend.

>>378759327
masturbation requires thrusting hand up and down, which seems like link is incapable of doing.

he can only use his hands when holding a weapon which means he is somehow more stupid than entirety of /v/.

>>378761156
>Comparing a 30 years old game with a game released this year.

The game has shit dungeons.

A Link to the Past is a much better Zelda game.

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>>378761156
>Little puzzles, little items, literally one room at a time, very similar to BOTW

>>378761280
>I'm actually believe the pictures in that image: The post.

>>378761387
>in comparison
How? Other zelda titles are wayyy more cliche, plus just look at Zelda in BOTW and Zelda in the rest of the games
>finding replacement weapons at all and not just grabbing anything you see
There's your problem. Who cares as long as you can fight with them?

>>378761567
>English is my second language, the post

>>378761156
>ittle puzzles, little items, literally one room at a time, very similar to BOTW

Nindrones actually believe that this is a good thing for a 2017 year Zelda game.

>>378760906
>just that it has plenty of unique areas nonetheless.
I agree with that. I simply think that the worlds of Fallout/TES (with some exceptions) have more unique areas and are more fun to explore.

I suppose it's just preference, though I do think Bethesda worlds have more creative flair in their environments. BOTW may be more interactive and have better ways of traversing he environment, but the environment itself is, to me, less inspired. Though, again, I loved some sections (Gerudo was really fucking good).

>>378761813
>little puzzles
>little items
>a bad thing
OOT drones everyone, fuck you fags for making dungeons all about MUH PUZZLES AONUMA PLEASE FUCK ME HARDER

>>378761707
>I have no argument because I'm a drone: The post.

>>378761475
different anon but I really liked BotW's dungeons, my only gripe with them is their aesthetics were bland and they were shorter than I was hoping for, but otherwise I enjoyed them a lot. They do need more like Hyrule Castle though (a traditional-style dungeon with a focus on combat more than puzzles), I feel a blend of divine beast-style dungeons and castle-style dungeons should be their approach in the next instalment.
>>378749261
the phrase you're looking for is "confirmation bias", people that shitpost about BotW do so under confirmation bias, desperately trying to find any flaw (no matter how slight) and harp on it as a justification for their hatred of the game's popularity.

>>378761842
How the fuck is skyrim more creative than BOTW.

It doesn't matter, OP. No matter how many valid complaints you bring up, Nintendo fans will never admit that BotW wasn't even the best Zelda, let alone the best game ever. They're still claiming that Splatoon revolutionized the TPS genre.

BotW is an Assassin's Creed game with a Zelda coat of paint, and anyone who disagrees is a braindead fanboy.

>>378761915
>The game doesn't have stuff that made Zelda franchise famous.
>Thinks it is the best Zelda game.

>>378762017
wait wait wait

I thought it was skyrim? then farcry? now its ass creed? How many games is Zelda going to be a reskin of? 10?

>>378762113
zelda was famous before OOT retard

>>378761842
>I simply think that the worlds of Fallout/TES (with some exceptions) have more unique areas and are more fun to explore
I don't agree with that, Fallout has a lot of copy-pasted vaults and all encounters feel the same; TES has copy-pasted dungeons in every game in the series (to varying degrees, but it's particularly bad in Oblivion and Skryim). Morrowind definitely has creative flair in its environments, even if the shitty TES combat system puts me off that game (and all other games in the TES series, seriously they need a better combat system for christ sake), but Oblivion, Skyrim, and Fallout 3+4 don't at all - they're really bland and repetitive environments honestly, I have no idea what you're seeing in them.

>>378762113
>famous=good
Keep sucking that puzzle dick, OOT drone. Your game ruined the franchise with the focus on braindead, uninspired, easy as fuck puzzles

>>378762150
Far Cry, Ass Creed and Skyrim are almost the same thing regarding exploration.

That's the problem with drones, you haven't played anything in years.

>>378762017
>BotW is an Assassin's Creed game with a Zelda coat of paint
Explain how

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I miss him lads. Calamity Ganon isn't as cool.

>>378762017
>everyone who disagrees is a braindead fanboy
I wonder who is the fanboy here hmmm

>>378742229

If people have to repost this shit every day, it only proves that it isn't

>>378762150
>Wait, different people can say different things? But I need to categorize everyone who disagrees with me as a singular entity that I can point to as the reason my favorite company's video games aren't being respected enough! You're all just nintendo haters!

This is literally you.

>>378762228
>>378762250

>I haven't played Zelda 1, 2, 3 and 4: The post.

>>378762339
Wait wait wait now its only exploration? I thought it was a reskin of the entire game?

>>378761915
Protip: people like OoT dungeons because they're fun

>>378761607
>Other zelda titles are wayyy more cliche
how so?
>plus just look at Zelda in BOTW and Zelda in the rest of the games
Here's some "well written" lines of BotW Zelda
"Link... Link... Link..."
"Ganon... Ganon... Ganon..."
Compare that to any of the lines of Zelda in WW or TP or even SS

>>378762014
Skyrim has 4x the world building, in texts found throughout the map alone, than the entirety of BotW
Let's not even get started on the main story of both games, where Skyrim completely blows away BotW (and lets not forget that Skyrim is considered a lackluster title in TES series)

>>378762342
muh map towers

>>378762454
>Being this dumb.

>>378762439
>>Zelda 3 and 4

>>378762408
>wait, different people can say different things?
You can't tell how the game zelda is a reskin on changes week to week? It's kind of amazing. Also nice projection, I never said you fags were Nintendo haters, I just find the change in consensus pretty amusing every time

>>378762563
>He doesn't know Zelda 3 and 4.

>>378762536
>being this dumb

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>>378762250
>Your game ruined the franchise with the focus on braindead, uninspired, easy as fuck puzzles
So... Breath of the Wild?

>>378762681
>being this dumb

>>378762506
>let me cherrypick lines and not focus on how she developed as a character and how she actually has a background now
Damn you people must be blind or something
>how so?
Literally every single character is a cliche. Prove me wrong. It's the same in BOTW, actually, but I guess Kilton breaks the mold somewhat?

>>378762408
if people claim different contradictory things as facts at least some of them are wrong