So what's the verdict? It's now the most successful

>>378727438
i wonder if it will be col

>mmo
confirmed shit

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>>378728132
>>378728216
>>378727438
I just want new blood in the genre, I'm so fucking tired of WoW-clones and sandbox abortions

>>378727438
Sounds great, let's see how it works out

>>378727438
Ambitious, and it will be shit like all ambitious kikestarters

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>>378727438
>a fucking juice merchant turned real eastate investor who just wanted to make his dream MMO

???

>>378728726
Yes those are very nice but can you put them away, please? We're trying to talk about video games here

>>378727438
it's all just "you can do anything" and I want to be proven wrong but it's the same load of bollocks. the ambitious features will get scaled back over time and it'll not resemble anything close to the ambition of the vision.

>>378728827
>Ashes of Creation
>'YOU CAN DO ANYTHING'
>"THE GAME EVOLVES OVER TIME"
>ten years later
>New game name: Fires of Battle
>"We want the World of Warcraft audience"
>Plays like Legion WoW

>>378728921
Samefagging, but you know what they could do? They could just do what guild wars 2 did. I doubt ANYONE on their development team can do what that video is talking about, at all, so they will just scrap it entirely for a new idea. However, if they just copied what GW2 did with the random over-time events happening in the world, and kept the city building in, it'd be good

Just skip the story parts
When you do the rest right you don't need some background NPC story, even if it's dynamic, since the players will natively create stories
A whole lot of effort could be saved there

>>378729060
This could turn into TORtanic very quickly

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>>378728827
That's what makes me optimistic though? It's NOT an overly ambitious thing like Ever Quest Next or BDO. It's basically just a theme park game where you level up the zones. with some sanbox and PvP elements thrown in.

It'd be just like WoW if Orgrimmar started as a campsite, became a town, than a city, and you could only access Ragefire Chasm upon reaching city status. Plus quests and shit unlock based on zone development.

PVP is facilitated by the fact that there're only a set amount of zones can be maxed out at once, so if you want another zone to level, you'll have to get people together to de-level an existing one.

The game sounds unique, but the thing that makes me interested is the LACK of sandbox shit and the relatively well-defined mechanics. It's not like Ever Quest Next where YOU CAN DO LITERALLY ANYTHING AND WE FULLY RECREATED A REAL PLANET WITH CAVES AND SHIT AND YOU CAN GO ANYWHERE AND CITIES WILL RISE AND FALL DYNAMICALLY AND ALL THE NPCS HAVE ADVANCED AI WITH HUNGER AND GREED AND SHIT AND THEY'LL REACT DYNAMICALLY BASED ON WHAT PLAYERS DO XD

But you're right, it'll probably fizzle out and become nothing. I think I'll set down $25, just because I'm desperate for a new MMO and I don't want to miss out if the game becomes big.

>>378729052
Guild Wars 2 would be the best MMO PERIOD, if they just had a holy trinity with traditional roles and tab-target hotbar combat.

Literally the entire game falls apart because of the awful combat and encounters.

God-tier everything else though

>>378729259
I wish I could be as optimistic as you, but I've been burned too many times.

>>378727438
>>Has a history of running pyramid scheme type businesses
>kickstarter
How does anyone justify funding this?

>>378727438
>>Has a history of running pyramid scheme type businesses
Like?

Looks like bdo and nomans sky tier.

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>>378731601
Because there're actual devs behind it, and running scummy businesses doesn't change the fact that he's a Gorillionaire that wants to make his dream MMO and is pouring tons of his own money into it. Plus he's slready succesful, putting together a legitimate kickstarter and a legitimate game, then doing tons of PR work, just to make $3,000,000 doesn't seem like the best plan.

>>378731721
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multi-level_marketing

Shit like this. He turned his juice business into something like this. You see these types of things everywhere.

Read this too: http://www.pcgamer.com/ashes-of-creation-kickstarter/

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>>378732771
>It's an enormous challenge, and one where much safer bets like Garriott's Shroud of the Avatar and McQuaid's Pantheon: Rise of the Fallen have arguably failed.

This seems safer than SotA or Pantheon. What a retard. Who the fuck would trust hacks like Garriott with money? Plus those games raised like half of what this did.

>>378732771
>Because there're actual devs behind it
when they reached the kickstarter goal
they literally had 0 game developers
the only developer on their dev team listed was a fucking web designer

>>378735349
Look at the experience section? IS that new or something?

If what you're saying is accurate, my optimist is completely gone.

>>378735490
Because there're actual devs behind it
look upon ye team
and despair

>>378736067
>>378735490
forgot the link
https://www.ashesofcreation.com/the-team/

>>378736139
>>378736067
So you're saying they have devs but they're shit?

>Is it gonna be a scam?
It's an MMO, anything less than 10 million you're going to get shit. I don't care what they promised.

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I don't even care too much how good this is. I just want it to be popular. The only fun I get out of MMOs is that first 2-3 months where everyone is discovering things together and forming friendships. Attention whoring on /vg/, people making fan art for glitches or iconic fights, the excitement for new content or "This patch will fix it!". It makes me so happy.

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>>378736319
>Steven "Call The" Sharif – Creative Director
not a developer, argues that making an engine for an MMO is retarded
>John Moore – Chief Financial Officer
moneyman
>Jeffrey Bard – Lead Game Designer
Mememan who can't code worth jack shit, literally just a Technical Support worker for his entire life
>Jason Crawford – Technical Director
Jeffreys fuckbuddy at Tech Support in Planetside 2
>Michael Bacon – Senior Environment Artist
an alright lad, good artist but doesn't really code
>Trystan Snodgrass – Senior Level Designer
BING BING WAHOO
>David Thornfield – Senior Animator
not a developer
>Jon Arellano – Senior Environment Artist
not a developer
>Keith Kovach – Senior Character Artist
not a developer
>Jeff Delierre – Senior Concept Artist
not a developer
>Peter Pilone - Senior Game Designer
"I played videogames and decided to learn game design as a major hoo boy"
>Matthew Reynolds – Senior Game Designer
DEDICATED GAMER SLASH IDEAGUY

>>378727438
YES YES FUCKING HYPE

>>378736438
They had funding before kickstarter, and the game was going to happen regardless of kickstarter. The kickstarter was just for additional shit. Plus, now that it's one of the most successful kickstarters ever, they'll have lots of investment firms lining up.

>>378729354
I wonder what you look like because sure as hell i want to beat you to an inch of your fucking life

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>>378737554
what the fuck? Are you actually autistic?

>>378727438
>It just blazed past Star Citizen with $3,000,000 and 30 hours left
Star Citizen is at 150 million $

>>378737693
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/cig/star-citizen

>34,397 backers pledged $2,134,374 to help bring this project to life.