Final Fantasy XV is the most disappointing game I have ever

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>What was suppose to be Noctis vs Stella got reduced to this

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>>378706393
>TFW liked XIII more than XV

>>378706393
>the most disappointing game I have ever played
Woah, save that title for Yooka-Laylee

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>Changing Regis design from badass Yakuza boss to generic old king
Literally unforgivable

>>378706585
>>TFW liked XIII more than XV

I also -reasonably- like XIII but XV is legit good. Totally unique game, I think it will be remembered even more favourably.

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I find it hilarious that literally everything from Nomura's E3 2013 trailer was cut. Not a single thing was put into the final game. Tabata completely wiped any influence Nomura had out. He tried to create something better than what Nomura was going for and failed miserably at it

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>>378707004
That's not true, we still got the Leviathan fight.

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>That hold a button to win generic as fuck Leviathan fight with the ''not-morrowind-theme'' song

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>>378706393
The game is great Nomura-cuck. Your fanfic version that you've conjured up in your head is what really would have been awful. I suggest you stop being a contrarian bitch.

>>378707576
>Your fanfic version that you've conjured up in your head
Not their fault that the game was unfinished with most story events happening offscreen which leads to lots of fan fiction regarding the game.

>>378706585
At least XIII knows what the fuck it is, with a working battle system and no product placement.

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>>378706393
>"You feel it too, don't you?"

I feel like 40% of the story mode is missing.

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>>378707851
>product placement.
What were they thinking?

>>378707918
Phantom Pain had good gameplay at least.

>>378706393
Cant wait to play it when it releases on PC. I love boybands.

I like the camping aspect and how they're shilling for Coleman

It's just too comfy

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>>378707004
I find it even more funny that once Sakaguchi left, Nomura became Square's big man. He is the idea guy (which is why he has so many fucking Creative Producer credits). Square goes to Nomura for fresh new ideas. For the life of me, I have no fucking idea why Tabata thought his idea for Final Fantasy XV was better than Nomura's. I will never understand.

>>378708247
>Tabata directed The 3rd Birthday
Well that makes a lot of sense now.

nomura could have ruined it further. that faggot couldn't make a coherent story

>>378708339
>nomura could have ruined it further. that faggot couldn't make a coherent story

I love both KH and FF XV. anon here is right, story telling is not nomura's strong point.

>>378708247
Half of the games directed by Tabata were given to him by nomura

Promising start, but it really shit the bed after the Leviathan fight.

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I bet Tetsuya Nomura gets like 3 hours of sleep a night. Jesus Christ how in the fuck does he do it?

>>378708772
Talent, something that is not present in FFXV.

So from what I gather is that if Nomura were to leave Square, then Square would be utterly fucked?

>>378708982
The art direction for the game was pretty good.

>>378709302
I don't think so, but one of their main franchises would pretty much be dead. And any chance of TWEWY 2 would also die

>>378709358
Actually you're right, monsters look great.

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What a wonderful experience! Thanks Tabata!

>>378709503
>A good chunk are all based on nomura's old designs

>>378709584

How the fuck...?

>>378706393
I felt more disappointed with XIII due to having high expectations from it. I only had okay to mediocre expectations for XV due to XIII, which XV for the most part reached.

>>378706393
I hate XV apologists. If the original KH team who made KH1 and KH2 made Versus XIII, it would have turned out so much better than XV. I know this for a fact. It would have been more RPG like, and not pretending to be full on action like XV is. All playable characters, all waaay better designed than the shit show we got, the areas would have looked nicer and more compact. I don't give a fuck if it was going to be linear. That is 100000x better than the open world we got, with invisible walls, and on rails driving sections. Everything about the combat looked better, and especially the story would have been a lot better and darker like it was originally planned. When I played XV for the first couple hours, I was tearing up because of how bad it was compared to everything Nomura planned. I saw the first trailer when I was fucking 12 and I am 22 now. It was like watching your own child grow up and slowly turn into a fucking drug addicted killer.

>>378709302
>Nomura leaves
>FFXIV is still the same
>DQ is still the same
>Yoko Taro shit still happens sometimes
>KH continues with BBS/DDD quality worlds/gameplay, but really really boring stories
>FF mainline goes FULL TABATA and is fucked for life
Things wouldn't change too much

>>378709797
>He doesn't know about lv.1 runs

SAD!

>>378709612
I believe that, after all the best tracks are still the ones from when it was Versus

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>>378709921

>>378709797
>hold down circle to attack everything
>sell everything you get in Ch1 to buy 99 potions
>immortal since you can pause to heal
that was it

>>378706393
>falling for the open world meme

lmao at your life

>>378706393
thats what u get for playing some faggy weebshit lmao

>>378709921
What pisses me off the most is that Square had no faith in XV and basically shat it out. Threeish years of dev time and asinine partnerships with to promote they game they knew was mediocre, all while helmed by an utter hack who doesn't know how to make games. Their real golden goose is the FFVII Remake and now they're fucking it up by making it episodic.

>>378710029
Seriously what happened to the OST, it was actually pretty disappointing which I wasn't expecting.

>>378710437
>What pisses me off the most is that Square had no faith in XV
Versus XIII was a such an after thought that it's amazing nomura was able to convince square from axing the game for so long

>>378709921
>I hate XV apologists.

There's no such thing. I don't want to shock you but in the real world the game was well received.

>>378708772
>I bet Tetsuya Nomura gets like 3 hours of sleep a night.

I love KH and Nomura more than FF as a whole but he does the square root of nothing for most of those credits.

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>Prompto straight up shoots a guy in the head at point blank range
>Noctis slams a guy's head into a car
>Gladio fucking powerbombs a guy

THEY WERE SO BADASS AND COOL WHY THE FUCK DID TABATA CHANGE SO MUCH

>>378710437
Yeah it's like they knew the game was garbage, and utter shit, so they did everything in their power to advertise the game so it WOULD sell.

>>378710609
>I don't want to shock you but in the real world the game was well received.
Because it was advertised more than fast food.

>>378710609
>Lowest scoring mainline Final Fantasy
>Well received
The damage control is palpable.

>>378710530
Simple. Yoko was working on KH 0.2/3. Also she's an old talent. She would never put up with Tabata's no vision bullshit. Can't write good music if there's no characters or story and everything is constantly being scrapped/rewritten

Notice the music for demon tide in 0.2 was great, which came out after XV

>>378710195
>Let's make open world game even though we never do it before
>Fail miserably
They should make big map like FFXII.

>>378710761
Where the hell is Playable character: Cindy

>>378710590
You think he convinced them? My guess is that they needed a FFXV and Versus had been on the backburner that they decided to use that. They knew fans would be hyped as fuck for it coming back, and they could fuck it up as much as they wanted so it would still sell.

>>378710761
>new stat-changing magic
the fact that Tabata was probably the one to pitch this shows how fucking stupid he is

>>378710748
>TFW Noctis and Ardyn are the only characters to get themes
Can't believe they allowed a Final Fantasy to be released where each of the main cast doesn't get their own respective theme.

>>378710761
This survey further proved to me that Tabata and Square had and still have no fucking idea what they wanted Final Fantasy XV to be. This is beyond pathetic

>>378710892
Luna and Cindy have themes. Luna I understand, Cindy, not so much.
>>378710997
This is like the 3rd one and there's a 4th one currently up on the JP website.

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>>378707004
>group attacks, something Nomura claimed would not be part of the combat, ended up being in the combat

>>378710840
I remember reading that after XIII came out and the versus went back to pre-production on the game, they had to come up with a small demo in couple of months that showed the game was still being worked on and that development should continue. There was another article where nomura was present at one of the showings of the demo and he was nervous as fuck
I'm trying to find both sources so don't screech at me pls

If it were up to Nomura the game would be vaporware and 17,000 trailers of stuff that wouldn't make it into the game in the first place. You people act like XV wasn't Nomura's fault in the first place.

I am sure you're extremely apologetic for him turning KH3 into vaporware as well.

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Is World of Final Fantasy good? Is it better than Final Fantasy XV? Haven't played it yet but I'm interested. I thought Final Fantasy XV was mediocre and bland

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>>378708772
He might not be doing it for long, it's starting to get to him.

>>378708247
Creative Producer and original concept for Final Fantasy All the Bravest

I don't see why people continue to suck his dick after this major fuck-up.

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Guys, guys, guys...

I can recognize the shortcomings of XV as much as anyone else, but building it up in your head that somehow Tetsuya fucking Nomura could have delivered a better story is just stubborn. The guy has a lot of talents but cohesive story delivery is not one of them.

>>378711260
>Is World of Final Fantasy good?
not really
>Is it better than Final Fantasy XV?
pretty much

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>>378711254
>You people act like XV wasn't Nomura's fault in the first place.
Educate yourself son

>>378711260
I've heard it's actually one of the best FF games in a long time-- you should definitely give it a try.

>>378711260
>Is World of Final Fantasy good?

It's fine. It's very easy and full of fanservice.

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>>378711292
>That first Nomura response.

I felt so bad for the guy. He just wants to be able to take a break but Square constantly keeps throwing project after project at him. I fear he's going to commit suicide one day from all the work and pressure

>>378711421

>literally apologize for Nomura ruining everything he is attached to like I said was going to happen

Square releases real new games without a decimal point in them quite regularly with little to no hiccups. How is it that every single fucking game with Nomura's name on it takes 5 years at minimum to see the light of day?

>>378711306
Because it was a neat concept but Square went full fucking jew and fucked the game over by being greedy

>>378711546
>Didn't even read a word in that pic
ok son
>How is it that every single fucking game with Nomura's name on it takes 5 years at minimum to see the light of day?
>every single fucking game
WOFF, 2.8, X, and 1.5+2.5 have all released in the past year. All were announced within the past 2 years. Remember, no goalpost moving

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>>378707987
buy the movie, mobile game, and watch the youtube anime. then make a pilgramage to squareenix tokyo and renounce FF VERSUS 13 PS3 then buy the premium season pass DLC and you just might enjoy Tabata's horse cabbage mutilated dick version called FF15 after the one year patch in November creates 30GB of extra CGI featuring stella being cruficied by her dumb sissified blonde replacement.

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I'm going to be sick

>>378711642
>Final Fantasy All the Bravest
>neat concept

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2dY5g-s8x98

>>378711750

I read the entire thing and it was making excuses for Nomura about virtually every single fucking thing. He single handed has ruined every franchise he has touched and there is no question about it at this point. XV was salvaged from his fuck ups into an actually playable game instead of vaporware that would take another 10 years to see the light of day 2 generations behind.

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I waited years for this game. I fucking preordered it. Thank god that persona 5 actually delivered because FFXV surely didn't.

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>>378711750

>unironically giving credit for remakes and shitty sidestories being released in 2 years or less

>>378712186
Remember, no goal post moving

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While FF Versus XIII woulda been a much better game, I still enjoyed my short time with the mess that is FFXV, platinumed the game on PS4, the fishing mini game is fun, combat is okay-ish, monster design is great and a few memorable music tracks. The party of bros on a roadtrip slaying monsters was a good time and I have to hand it to them, at least they're listening to fans about problems the game has and are trying to correct them, I'm pretty curious to see what the Multiplayer component of the game will be (if its not most likely cancelled)

>>378712129
>Over the Hill
Good taste.
Also did anyone else go through the whole game without dying, get the airship and then instantly get a Game Over?

>>378712082
>still didn't read anything in the pic
That pic was made to show how Square fucked themselves over for the past 10 years, not to defend nomura. Building shit in-house engines, nomura not wanting to make kh3 for forever, and his decision to switch to slowly switch over to luminous are just some of the things you could have learned. But I guess the filename, the title, or the actual content of the pic was too much for you to handle.

>>378712586

Do you hear of shit like DQ having these problems? No. Because they're not attached to Nomura. The worst part is Nomura has never been in charge of an actually good game and yet he is ridiculously renowned for his character designs in games he had little else to do with.

I honestly think Tabata dont deserve so much shit he got. Yes he is talentless, but he really deeply care about FFXV, not single dev would release a survey 5 months after release on what fanbase would like to see in game. And its understandable, because stuff was cut not just for fun, but to meet deadline.

>>378712764
>Do you hear of shit like DQ having these problems?
When they outsource most of those games to different companies, that tends to happen
>The worst part is Nomura has never been in charge of an actually good game
>Because I say so
ok

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>>378712817
>not single dev would release a survey 5 months after release on what fanbase would like to see in game.
Not every single developer would sell DLC that should've been on the disc at launch either.

>>378712890

Please indulge me on the games he has been in charge of that came out great.

There is one single one, and I'd say Disney's influences had more to do with it than him, the first Kingdom Hearts game.

Oh boy it's time

>>378713012
>everyone who dislikes the game is the same person
The absolute state of FFXV fanboys.

>>378712890

>outsourcing most of the DQ series

source please

>>378713070
THE TIME HAS COME

>>378710609
Hope you enjoy Persona 5 ramming its dick into your eyes every time you compare Metacritic scores.

Persona 5 on PS3+PS4 body slammed you queer.

>>378712576
Playing this song was the only time it felt like a real FF. Pretty Sad! if you ask me.

>>378712917

Which do you prefer

DLC side stories

OR

7 remakes of the same game with new content for full price.

>>378712917
Why would you assume its on disc?

>>378713237
I switched between that and this one.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBoBO0YMBys
>TFW XV didn't have GOAT field music

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>>378713058
The thing that screwed the story of the future games, was Nomura taking Sakaguchi's advice too strongly about how the story had to be complex or it wouldn't succeed.

>>378711292
Meanwhile Tabata got to travel the world non stop and promote food

>>378713058
>never been in charge of an actually good game
>Please indulge me on the games he has been in charge of that came out great.
I could say KH2 for example but you seem set on saying that it's shit so there's no point to list more
>Disney's influences had more to do with it than him
Unless you mean disney nostalgia taking over, Disney has almost no involvement in the development besides approving how characters and worlds should be portrayed

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>>378713282
I would've preferred the game to be finished with a cohesive and focused narrative that doesn't purposely leave the player in the dark for key moments of the story.

>>378713307
Because it should have been, gutting the game to sell as DLC is disgusting.

>>378713187
>side content

>>378713496

Well, I mean it's virtually a given that KH2 was dogshit.

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>>378708339
Nobody plays Nomura games for the story.

Either way, he couldn't have ruined it more than ol' Tabby. We would have gotten a shitty story with a fun combat system.

>>378713657

Playing them for the gameplay is even more retarded.

>>378713631
And thanks for proving that point

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I just want my sequel. Them being KH DDD was not enough

I can smell xv-kun
Well, at least we had one good thread yesterday

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>>378713657
If the leaks were true then Versus XIII was going to end up top 10 video game stories of all time.

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>mfw people defend the man who single handedly ruined the Parasite Eve series which shouldn't have ever fallen into his hands

>>378712817
>not single dev would release a survey 5 months after release on what fanbase would like to see in game.
Because most devs have actual vision and the sense to ignore idiot fans.

>>378713865
dont worry, that was already ruined the moment the first game came out.

>>378713147
Practically every game up until X was outsourced to different companies and only published by Enix/SE. I thought was well known

>>378713773
>That's not the same as Noctis not seeing the invasion because he wasn't there, or him not seeing what happened in Niflheim because it happened before he got there, you still find out what happens in both situations so fuck off acting like it being offscreen matters.
No, these things are HUGE story beats that are either contained in a film that is mostly adapted cut content or just plain out-of-sight. They aren't the kind of thing you just imply offscreen.

I'd rather Nomura take too long to make a complete game with an interesting combat system and a mileage-may-vary plot than Tabata rushing it out the door with a barely functional story AND combat system.

FFXV is a disgrace.

>>378713865
>posting Harada who admiring Tabata's job

>>378714039

fwiw I am insulting Nomura on this one. Since he has far more to do with how bad 3rd Birthday was than Tabata.

>>378713773
>I don't see you crying when shit happens offscreen in older FFs.
With the exception of VIII, the older Final Fantasy stories were well presented and paced.
And older Final Fantasy's would've had the Nifelheim invasion as a playable sequence rather than a CGI movie, that would be like if VII had the bombing mission not playable but as a separate movie.
Sad!

Versus drones are most autistic retards i've ever seen for my entire gaming life, i swear.

>>378713956
>Because Tabata's XV is better.
Tabata's XV is series of very, VERY loosely connected set-pieces.

Nomura's XV could have been utter shit and it still would have been better by simple virtue that it actually has some level of narrative flow.

>>378714116

They are the ones who think the footage of the VII Remake is real as well. Versus footage is all tech demo bullshit that change a trillion times so even if Nomura finished it (hint, he wouldn't have) it wouldn't have been the game they wanted.

>>378714081
>the creative producer is more at fault than the director of the fucking game or the writer of the story
Are you stupid, both the gameplay and the story are shit. If Tabata thought nomura's ideas were crap or Toriyama's story was shit, it's his job to say no. Don't be a cocksucker

>>378714251
VERSUS WOULD'VE BEEN SO MUCH BETTER REEEE WE HAVE SOME FLASHY TRAILERS AND """""""""LEAKS""""""""" TO PROVE IT

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>>378713923
THIS.
The survey and constant fan feedback proves that he is not confident with his work and has no clear vision. That's the difference between Nomura and Tabata. Nomura said in a interview that he does listen to fan feedback but he doesn't let that get in the way of his vision because if he listens to all the feedback he wouldn't be satisfied with his work.
Tabata needs constant feeeback because he has no idea what he's doing

>>378714418

What is Nomura's vision with KH? kek

>>378714162
He wasn't just holding O, he had to use the directional pad as well to map which enemies he attacks. That would still be infinitely more entertaining the way it is compared to the real game. It's a lot faster.

>>378713765
Sadly there won't be a thread like that anytime soon. Even this one just turned into name calling and insults because a certain person showed up.

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>>378714494
Making combat that isn't a travesty.

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>>378713773
FF VERSUS 13 on PS3 was at 25% completion before your cum stained illiterate director Tabata took over and lit development on fire with false promises before chugging down mountain jew to piss on its corpse. May I present FF15, a game that is now asking on the title screen via a survey whar critical aspects should be patched in.

You can keep FF15, there aren't enough whales in the sea who would even feast on such a rotting agressive time sink of a corpse. Fuck you and fuck that shameless hack Tabata.

>>378714548
Is this a Versus fanboy playing?

>>378714494
Make fun games with amazing music and batshit insane stories

>>378714527
He's even posting the same webms and arguments too. Now the other shitposters will flock in. Might as well go to bed or do something productive

>>378714689
Don't worry, everyone hates you too.

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I fucking love XV-kun! How can one nigga be so BASED and constantly BTFO Nomuradrones?

>>378714878
>Regis's theme is Dawn
Not a main character.
>Gentiana's theme is Cosmogony
Not a main character, although when it appears in Hellfire at the end is Koncert as fuck.
>Luna and Cidney both have theme's called LUNA and CIDNEY
Not main characters.
>Gladio's theme is Shield of the King
Not in the main game, DLC only.

Sad!

>>378715182
Remember, no goal post moving

XV's combat is way better than the mash x and reflect turd from KH

The camping aspect is also comfy as fuck, no other game has that roadtrip gameplay

>>378715092
But you do? Please tell me more CEO of Square Enix aka xv-kun

>>378715278
It just shits on Square in general though. Maybe you should open your eyes for once xv-kun

nomura fanboys are the worst.

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>>378715237
FFXV's """""""""""""combat"""""""""""" is an embarrassment to anyone who has played a competent action game.

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>>378714689
>I fucking hate Nomura apologists.
Similarly, I hate faggots that blame him for everything. Half the things he gets flak for are things he had nothing to do with.

Like, Genesis for example. You know what Nomura contributed to Genesis? His sword. That's literally it.

>>378713112
Sure thing it has to be different people reposting the same exact shit time and time again because it can't possibly be the one person who's actually triggered by it doing it.

>>378713496
Everyone shat on KH2 when it came out, not sure what you're trying to say.

>>378713531
So something Nomura has never done.

>>378715537
>calls other people triggered
>is triggered because people have a different opinion from him
It's okay FFXV fanboy. Maybe it helps you sleep at night.

>>378715278
>listed some faults of his in the post
>no it was made to defend him
huh
>>378715518
His outfit too, they had a press conference showing it off

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>>378715237
>Cannot die
>No air game like KH2 or Versus 13
>Hits have no weight
>Poor i-frames
>No command for Summons like initially planned as Versus 13
>Only one playabe character unlike 4 in Versus 13
>Poor link framing anination when warping with partners
>The lack of a proper magic system

Yeah, you FF15 fags sure showed us who has the best real time action RPG system on this side of Tabata's cuck shed.

>>378713865
Toriyama wrote 3rd birthday.

>>378713923
>>378714418
Except all that stuff is stuff they're already doing and the survey is just to see what fans want first.

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>>378715664
A quick google search proves that delusion wrong

It feels like FFXV was lacking so much. Like a proper fucking story that doesn't happen offscreen, characters that I actually give a fuck about, memorable scenes and memorable bosses. I can recall maybe 3-4 scenes from the entire game and except for the titan fight and the endboss I don't remember any bosses.

>>378715759
>air game
>versus

literally every single battles from trailers were on the ground, in versus trailers Noctis didn't even have warp ability.

Didn't the first demo have better combat or something?

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>>378715896
>Like a proper fucking story
Good thing it has the best story told within the past ten years.

>>378715982
It had switchable characters at least

Man xv-kun really does hate everything that isn't ffxv. He turns every thread into an endless sea of insults.
Why can't every thread be like the one from yesterday where people were allowed to have different opinions.

>>378716020
That's like, your opinion. I'm glad you enjoyed it. I didn't. And I still don't know what the fuck was going on or why I should care.

>>378714007
You mean story beats that happen in the game and we learn them from Noctis's perspective where he's in Leide carefree when insomnia is invaded and Niflheim turned to daemons before they even got to Tenebrae.

You obviously missed the entire point is that he wasn't there yet anything important from those events you still learn in the game.

Nomura has never made a good story and his combat is midtier at best. XV has the most straightforward and easy to understand story in FF with great combat better than Nomura is capable of. KH is the disgrace.

>>378715982
I like the demo combat better.
>assign weapons to directional moves
>hold direction in combat to use different weapon for different things
>weapons come with executable techniques that you can cycle through and are unique
>phasing, armiger, and techniques assigned to MP, so MP management feels really important and balanced
>spider senses for counter, instead of big quicktime button prompt on screen
>linkstrikes are random, but manually executed, and with button prompts to chain them further
Duscae seemed shit at the time, but going back to it after XV, XV was so bad you just appreciate all the good that was in it

>>378716020
This is why noone takes you fags seriously. Tell me, what's the game with the best story before xv came out?

Glad I'm waiting until they actually put everything they want in it and all the dlcs out before I play it.

Did you guys really expect it to be complete at launch? SE made Tabata gut the thing to finally get it out the door. Still sold a shitload too.

>>378714418
>The survey and constant fan feedback proves that he is not confident with his work and has no clear vision
No, that's what you think and provably want it to mean. Fact is the game's been released, it sold well, they don't need to ask shit or even continue to do anything with the game, vision accomplish, release the next 3 episodes and end it there but fans keep asking for more, so much so that they made a list of all and are asking which one do you want because it's impossible to do them all.

>>378716261
Xenogears to be quite honest.

>>378714114
Hey look another retard that doesn't understand the point of Noctis not being outside the city when it's invaded.

>>378714180
XV has more narrative flow than anything Nomura has ever made. XV is a straightforward story with clear start middle and end with a clear buildup to things getting ramped up towards the end.

KH has no sense of pacing whatsoever, you could place anything anywhere because it's such a shitshow.

>>378715759
You forgot:
>hold button to dodge
>nonexistent enemy telegraphs and shit attack openings/hitstun
>damage caps at the end of the formula
>normal physical attacks are essentially worthless endgame
>Armiger doesn't care about your current weapon setup beyond stat boosts, it's hold button to spazz out, warp for a shitty Limit or press shoulder buttons for another crappy Limit
>not a single attack that can launch enemies into the air in the game
>can kill story bosses in 10 seconds at Lv 1
>RNG insta kill anything button

>>378715841
>Except all that stuff is stuff they're already doing
Prove it.

>>378716232
I almost miss weapon techniques and unique passive abilities the most. I know most of the animations still exist, but in the final game it's basicly all about stats, as soon as you get a better stat weapon the old one is basicly useless, but in duscae even weapons with worse stats were sometimes better because of their abilities kinda like keybladea in KH

>>378714116
True.

>>378714494
just throw random shit together and hope it sticks seems to be his motto

>>378716439
What the flying fuck is "narrative flow", you're prancing around?

FFXV may have have a straightforward story but don't you fucking dare say that it didn't have story content ripped apart from the base game

>>378716356
>but fans keep asking for more
No one is asking for more. And again, most fans are retards who should be ignored.

>>378716439
The 'story told from Noctis' perspective' is broken several times in the game, we see conversations between Luna and Ravus when Noctis is nowhere to be seen.
Please for the love of god defend anything but the narrative presentation in this game.

>>378714523
Yes he was, Tabata literally said he was during that livestream that only the attack button was being held down to attack, you can literally see anytime kougeki was highlighted blue that the attack button was just being held down. There was no directional inputs at that time, they only added those in from Episode Duscae 2.0 onwards. Half that footage is also showing armiger with him just holding O too. So you're an even bigger idiot.

>>378716441
>can kill story bosses in 10 seconds at Lv 1
(You)

>>378716356
Maybe they ask for more because they can clearly tell that parts of the story are not explored/explained at all?

>>378716825
You underestimate the power of Ignis' food

>>378716762
I'm not saying there were directional inputs for attacks you fucking retard. I'm saying he did have to control the analog stick towards the enemy he wanted to attack.

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>>378715717
Actually, no; Gackt had the outfit custom made himself for the Redemption music video (literally, he wears it in the video) with Imaizumi's approval. Nomura was just there because his name draws crowds. He later drew the outfit, but the actual conceptual design was mostly just Gackt.

For Crisis Core, Nomura helped adapt the red jacket look so that it fit over Genesis's SOLDIER uniform as well as visually jived with the rest of the universe, which is why, unlike his Dirge outfit, it just looks like a red version of Sephiroth's coat with less pronounced pauldrons.

The only thing that Nomura can really say he contributed to Genesis was his weapon. Everything else was Gackt's ideas with Imaizumi sucking his dick and Nojima getting high.

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>>378714116
>Versus drones are most autistic retards i've ever seen for my entire gaming life, i swear.

Anon is right. "I didn't like game", "Head canon would have been better".

>>378716935
Video link of this happening.

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>All that cup noodle shilling.


Should tell you the companies worth when they aggressively prompts the most unhealthy junk food that can kill to their fans.

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>>378714548
Still posting cherrypicked examples I see.


>>378714605
FF versus a "game" that was barely 20-25% done by 2012, 6 fucking years after it was announced was given to based Tabata to save which he did be taking out the trash and putting the good in, and the survey is all stuff they're working on already and just want to see what fans want first.

And now Nomura is fucking KH3 and 7R just hit dev hell, 4 years after dev on KH3 started and Nomura says there's still untouched worlds they have to work on, and now they just fired all the CC2 devs from 7R and got a lightning returns programmer in charge of FF7R development.

>>378716969
Huh, learn something every day
>Imaizumi sucking his dick and Nojima getting high.
welp

>>378706585
I HATED XIII. While I wasn't a fan of XII, I felt it was a good game, it just didn't draw me in. XIII was fucking trash. And while I had a more fun experience with XV, I'd say XIII is the better game. That is how devoid of life XV is. You can almost feel it when you play, like there's another half of the game that should be right there to make everything click. Half the plot, half the battle system, half the overworld, half the soundtrack, half the cast, half the plot. You know it SHOULD be there, but it never shows up. Maddening.

>>378715034
They are main characters and those are themes for them, stop moving the goalposts.

>>378715518
To his credit, Genesis has a really cool sword.

I hope in the Remake, Cloud and co. can visit the cave he got BTFO in. Would be cool if Cloud could actually take and use the weapon himself.

>>378717292
Regis and Luna have three minutes of screen time.

>>378717236
>You know it SHOULD be there, but it never shows up. Maddening.

>>378716978
>"I didn't like game", "Head canon would have been better".

>>378715214
And I didn't. Woff isn't his game, 2.8 is a port, an inconsequential movie and a 2 hour demo. 1.5 and 2.5 are all ports years old games and had coded and days just as cutscenes.

>>378717134
Talk aboit cherrypicking. 90% of the airsteps and shit in the xv webm pretty much do nothing. If you want to compare two things at least also use an exploit on xv's side.

>>378715237
This.

>>378715272
Maybe you didn't know that the FNC itself was Nomura's idea and he got nojima to write it, and that Nomura wanted to use luminous, not higher ups making him use it.

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>FFXV "bosses"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfR06KrKWDU

>>378717413
>How is it that every single fucking game with Nomura's name on it takes 5 years at minimum to see the light of day?
>every single fucking game
You did.

>>378709584
>Entire game takes less than 9 hours.
That makes sense. I was hoping exploring the world would do something worthwhile, and still killed the story in under 30 hours.

>>378717587
What exactly is going on here that is allowing him to do this?

44 posters

>>378715420
No it clearly is trying to defend Nomura.

>>378715462
When you have to pretend a single fight unlike others in the game is the regular XV combat you've already lost. Even the ardyn one is different because he can kill you just from the 1st hp bar during that section.

>>378715710
Wow amazing argument.

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>>378717138
The sad part is that it's all right there in the open on the wiki, as though it's something to be proud of.

>>378717673
>I was hoping exploring the world would do something worthwhile
The world is devoid of content except for gas stations, you'll find plenty of those.

>>378717027


>>378717587

>>378717778
Let me try your amazing argument.
>everyone who disagrees with me is the same person
Wow, I won this argument pretty easy. Thanks.

>>378717543
>Maybe you didn't know that the FNC itself was Nomura's idea and he got nojima to write it
Oh boy is that time to make shit up again
>Shinji Hashimoto: Right when we were about to finish Final Fantasy X-2 and Kingdom Hearts, the Fantasy XII project was already well underway, so we began to think about the next Final Fantasy project. We had learned many lessons from the Compilation of Final Fantasy VII project, and we really wanted to build upon this idea...this was the genesis of the Fabula Nova Crystalis concept.
http://www.webcitation.org/6X5zcs5Yx?url=http://www.1up.com/news/ffxiii-interview

>>378717587
>FFVII "bosses"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYnZbG-MXLw

>>378717134
>cherrpicked examples
All the big monster fights are terrible. It's like they had no fucking clue how to make it work, so they just threw a fucking giant monster at you with combat that was specifically made for human sized opponents. The camera gets fucked up in all kinds of ways when you are close to them, and they have almost no indication of when they are going to attack and it fucking sucks shit.

You're obviously trolling, because everything shown when Nomura was in charge looked like a fantastic game. It looked like the combat actually worked for different enemies, and everything was as fluid as Kingdom Hearts 2. You can see as you play XV it looks slightly staticy in combat and nothing flows well together. In Versus it looked like all one animation. Plus of course the tons of cut content like Magitek weapons, playable party characters who had better designs, and the command system that would have let us choose magic from a menu right in the gameplay like KH. Except they had to create a terrible menu to create shitty magic grenades in the pause screen. Using them was a one hit kill for everything if you messed with it enough.

KH3 is also fine, there are unconfirmed rumors but every KH game had cut content

>>378717910
>VII fangays will defend this
T O P
K E K

>>378717587
>KH2 """""bosses""""""

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7bQnumaTP6U

>>378717997
>KH2 fangays will defend this
T O P
K E K

>>378717798
>>378717798
I figured that out fairly quickly, but I kept finding caves and stuff, and hoped that there would be something to make them worth exploring. Unless you're looking for all the optional tombs, they weren't.

Game was so fucking lackluster. I seriously beat Nagifar when I was level 30. Dude was literally 90 levels higher than me, and I beat him. What was even more disappointing is that Nagifar looks just like some other enemy that you fight earlier.

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>>378715518
No, Nomura literally designed him you fucking idiot.

>>378715875
>wiki in current time
So you weren't alive when KH2 came out.

>>378716969
Nomura designed it, Jesus christ you're in denial.

>>378716020
There were flashback stories in Lost Odyssey that were better than the entire fucking plot of this shit mountain. Go fuck yourself retard.

Was there more than 10 enemies that appeared at night? I remember some dark slimes, red giant, iron giant, and imps, but nothing else.

>>378718164
>TFW Lost Odyssey was better than XII, XIII and XV

>>378718165
way more than that

>>378718089
>So you weren't alive when KH2 came out.
>Don't believe those scores and opinions, believe my version of history
Now this is delusion.

>>378718236
>Doesn't proceed to name them

>>378706585
I finished ff13, can't say the same about ff15.

>>378718165
You forgot one, Tonberries, which they utterly destroyed their reputation of insanely hard enemies in Final Fantasy by making them shitty "LOL HOLD SQUARE TO WIN"

>>378718216
To be fair, the last time FF was arguably any good was X (can't speak to the online versions). FF hasn't been good for a long time. NieR Automata is a way better ARPG than XV was, and that game, while nothing amazing, was made in a fraction of the time and at a fraction of the price. When a dude who calls his own games and story "shitty," is outclassing a flagship series, something has gone horribly wrong.

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>mfw starting the game pushing a fucking car
>mfw all those mmo fetch quests
>mfw that dull repetitive combat
>mfw acting is robotoic
>mfw Lestallum is tiny as shut, and the only real city on the world map
>mfw Luna tapping out so quickly
>mfw everything after chapter 10 (train attack is the best part of the game and it only lasts 5 fucking minutes)
>mfw Ch.13
>mfw world of ruin is non-explorable
>mfw no milf Cidney
>mfw shitty final boss fight and predictable ending

>>378718328
I only saw Tonberries as a hunt, not as a regular night time fight.

>>378718236
I admit that I forgot about the bombs. What else is there?

>>378718328
you could just phase through them and parry doing way more damage than just holding square which is a waste of time

>>378717587
>Dark Souls "bosses"
https://youtu.be/EGOPl3i6q1Y

>>378718327
>I finished ff13, can't say the same about ff15.
Neither can the developers

>>378718395
>as a hunt
Did you not see all of them at the end of the game when you woke up on the boardwalk?

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>>378718341
>something has gone horribly wrong.
No kidding.

>>378718416
I honestly don't know how you couldn't finish XV. You can literal beat it in a single playthrough. I've spent more time beating CoD MW2 than I did beating XV.

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>>378718416
Holy fucking shit.

Reminder you can only talk shit about XV if you pull off something akin to this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltdHcyi13-A

>>378718480
I'm talking about actual night time in the main game, not the end game's world. Also, no, I don't recall seeing them (although I haven't actually played that part in like 6 months, so I may have seen them, and just not remembered).

>>378718089
>no i'm right tho

>>378706393
Truly one of the worst games I have ever had the misfortune of playing

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>>378718483
The face of Knuckles always cracks me up in that image. He knows something isn't right.

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>>378715759
Yes you can.
XV has more airgame than KH or Versus ever did
Hits have as much weight as they always did since Versus
There is no poor iframes
That Versus left side HUD was pasted on and was never once shown used so irrelevant
Manual weapon switching replaced character switching because there's no need to switch characters when Noctis can already do everything.
Better linking animations than was ever shown in Versus
All Noctis was shown using was basic fire or thunder in the older trailers.
XV final game is far superior and you're full of shit.

>>378715982
No that was a barebones stripped down version of the final games system with mock up system in place.

>>378716020
This.

>>378716038
No it didn't.

>>378717910
>FFVII have to max level out, get all ultimate weapons, and bring an assortment of materia to max level to take advantage of an exploit.
>FFXV eat a dish

>>378718571
I can talk shit about XV because I played the game. I don't care whether you think I should or not. I played through the story and beat Nagifar at level 30 without breaking a sweat.

Not even watching whatever video you posted.

>>378718667
I'm glad we got this instead of the Dynasty Warriors button masher Nomura would have given us

>>378718667
>Yes you can.
To be fair I only died in the Regalia F, for the first time a controllable airship has been in the series since IX it made me wish they didn't even bother.

>Why in the fuck did Tabata change the game?

The game we saw on trailers it never existed, they were all just a bunch of placeholders because Nomura didn't even know what the fuck he was doing... He worked on that shit for like 6 years and all he had was the story for the game and nothing else. The development was restarted several times to the point the game almost got cancelled.

All Tabata did was salvage what he could and change it to streamline it and be able to deliver something in 4 years or less. On top of it his team was forced to work with an unfinished engine that wasn't even meant for open world design let alone next gen platforms. Luminous Studios is so bad that Nomura ditched years worth of development on Kingdom Hearts 3 to start it from scratch on UE4 and that's why we won't see the game till like 2020.

>>378718768
That was the only time I died in the game, too.

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Tabata was such a fucking mistake holy shit. I've known it for over a year, but this takes the cake. How much of a clueless suit do you have to be to ask your players for help on what to patch in 6 months after release? I get that SE wanted Nomura to push out FFVII Remake and KH3, but he really should have been kept on the XV team as some sort of low key co-director to keep the game coherent. Tabata is just useless. I can't even call him a hack anymore. Hacks at least know what to do, albeit poorly. This guy can't do anything at all. This DLC survey is a show of incurable incompetence. Tabata's a marketing guy who has absolutely no business leading the biggest title of one of the biggest Japanese game developers. He should be removed from the team and exiled to F2P mobile game development.

>>378718571
Randomly switching weapons and doing non stop airsteps is not exactly "pulling it off". For the most part all you have to do us hold attack and then move the left stick in whichever drection you want to airstep.
Can't believe people even call this combos, it's just wasted movement

>>378718789
>On top of it his team was forced to work with an unfinished engine that wasn't even meant for open world design let alone next gen platforms
The same thing happened with Crystal tools and versus xiii. Even when that engine was finished it was even worse than luminous ended up being

>>378718884
it's not randomly switching weapons and you can get hit out of airstepping so he actually is dodging enemy attacks in mid air while attacking

>>378718875
Tabata did Crisis Core which was good though.

>>378718521
I couldn't finish it either and it has nothing to do with length. The game is boring and the story is unreasonably bad. Entire chapters like the totally useless power plant excursion were tremendous wastes of time.

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>>378706393
I remember how fucking hyped I was when I saw
the Noctis orgy trailer. Fuck Tabata for doing me like this.

>>378706393
Most disappointing game I ever played was Batman Dark Tomorrow. Shit looked great but was fucking atrocious. As underwhelming as FFXV was it was still decent. It's definitely better than XIII (although I got some enjoyment out of that one too).

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>>378716441
Fuck off SBK91 you havnt even played XV.


Except you tap to dodge roll, tap to use shields too, holding is for phasing which uses MP, dodge roll is done only by tapping and it gives cancels.

Enemies do telegraph attacks which you'd know if you had played it. According to you none of these hits are telegraphed, in which case you're retarded.

Damage doesn't cap at the end especially because you can manually incite finishers and different weapons deal different damage based on attributes like crit bonus and such.

Normal attacks are useful the entire game.

Armiger is about royal arms so doing royal arm damage you dumb fuck, why the fuck would regular weapons influence that? Fucking idiot. You can tap to do it and it does a fuckton with free bonus damage with armiger chain.

There is no need to ever have to launch enemies when you can already stun them and make them vulnerable on the ground.

No you can only get lucky against Aranea doing that which is still an early game boss.

Nothing wrong about summons being interwoven into the narrative so that they have actual context.

Fuck off SBK91 you havnt even played XV.

>>378719104
>Negotiate a deal with Hillary Clinton
>Now I'm in an astronaut suit in Lestallum
Who approved this?

>>378718789
No, it was mostly due to FFXIV failure that fucked up development for the game.

>>378718667
I think the thing that pisses me off the most is this fucking castle scene.
In the first official 15 trailer, Noctis is seen warping up the tower and murdering snipers. Shit looked so fucking cool and made my dick rock hard
Then the game comes around and this scene never happens. That area is still in the game, and you can still warp up the building by using multiple points, but it just isn't the same.
So much of this game was changed and removed. It just doesn't make sense anymore.

>>378719027
He really isn't, airstep is useful every now and then to dodge an attack, but you don't need to do it non step every 0.5 seconds. You could deal way more damage ans be safer way easier and even for a combo video you could do way more intersting stuff especially with ground directional moves and planned weapon switches instead of must rapidly airstepping around big enemies that barely attack.

>>378706393
the only thing thats irritating is that gigantic gap right before the last two chapters. Made no. Fucking. Sense. At all. To do t hat. None.

But apparently people thought it was okay to do and released it. Fucking shit. If we ever DO see those missing chapters, it'll be paid DLC. That fucking game of the year 2nd edition is going to be the real game, you just watch

>>378719316
It was square trying to build their own engine (twice) in which all of their AAA games would use
It went horribly, only DQX seemed like it went unharmed.

>>378716518
Months ago they already said they're gonna add ardyn and Ifrit stuff, and before that they said there adding ardyn past story stuff to the game, months before that they already said Aranea, Cor and Iris were gonna be made playable, before that when talking about long term plans they said they'd make other characters in the game playable. We already know those are being added to the game, the survey just mentions other things they're also doing and all the survey will do is let them know what fans want to see first.

>>378716654
If you couldn't understand the story then you're beyond fucking retarded.

People to this day still don't know what the fuck KH is about even after playing all of them.

>>378719445
That's ok. I preordered the game and the season pass, and the game is still deleted off my system. You release the game you release. You don't get to patch in a shit ton of content to make it acceptable like they are trying to do. I got burned, and I won't be giving any FF game more than 30 dollars until they create 3 games in a row that are worthy of the name (remakes don't count).

>>378716684
You might want to stop living under that rock.

>>378719501
Probably because DQ just mostly sticks to the formular and doesn't try to push for tech demo visuals or ultra realism. I honestly even like the new Dissidia visuals more than XV's because they're not super inconsistent.

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>all this Nomura dick sucking

The guy has not fucking released one game (no, remasters do not count!) since PS2 days despite always "working" on games. He is a fantastic artist and can edit a nice trailer, but possibly the worst game director who has ever existed. After 7 years on Versus XIII there was almost zero of the actual GAME done. None. It would have come out in 2030, or never. And probably would have been shit as well.

Fuck, he has already fucked up a remake somehow, how that is even possible is beyond me. Part 1 of FF XVIIR (and LMAO at it being split to parts) will come out maybe 2021. And need I mention KH3?

Remove him from game directing for everyones sake

>>378719237
This guy gets it.

>>378716732
Except both Luna and Ravus scenes are things being told to Noctis by someone else, first one from Maria and the second one from Gentiana. Other than that there's like 5 fucking minutes out of the rest of the 40 hours that aren't from his perspective.

>>378718875
Even though I liked XV despite it's flaws I'm 100% sure it would be way better if they just outsourced the whole thing to some other company.

>>378719831

He released gamed for PSP and 3DS though. And 0.2 if you want to count that even though it's short.

>>378716825
he's probably gonna post the level 1 exploit where the buff lets you do more because of the level difference and using maxed out magic to 1 shot Aranea

>>378719831
Chi was released not too longer, but >mobile games

>>378716967
Except O is also the sprint button which already runs towards the locked on target so again, no.

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>>378719831
>He is a fantastic artist
Let's not get too far ahead of ourselves.

>>378717405
No they don't, Luna has much more. By your logic Zelda isn't a main character because she's offscreen 95% of the games she's in.

>>378717134
>KH enemies suffer from hitstun
>XV's don't
This is supposed to make KH2 look bad?

>given to based Tabata to save which he did be taking out the trash
>no double jump
>no shotguns or bazookas
>no piloting magitek armor
>'saved'

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>>378717470
Except they're dodging the missiles in the air and keeping him airborne so that he can do another air attack or airstep if need be. Stay in denial.

>>378717587
Hey look an early game boss, meanwhile he's the secret super tough boss from KH2FM just beat by mashing O.

>>378717606
I wasn't the one who said that. I'm only pointing out that those are ports and woff isn't his game.

>>378717997
>not playing on Critical
>using Ultima
>grossly overleveled
>Trinity over Limit Form or Reflect
>this is somehow the same as killing bosses in 10 seconds in XV at Lv 1
Are you trying to defend KH?

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>FFXV "final boss"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8IO-29B2nk

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>>378720136
He has his moments

>>378717673
You can beat FF1-9 in under 10 hours.

>>378717798
There's more content in XV than any other FF.

>>378720708
Holy shit is that him?
Based Nomura.

>>378717861
Literally nothing there goes against what I said you fuck.

>>378718667
>XV has more airgame than KH
[laughter intensifies]

>>378720698
The worst part about this video is the disappointing final boss music honestly, the QTEs are pretty bad too.

>>378718483
Except Luna holding Noctis happens after the fight and the fight themselves aren't even the same. Fuck off Matt you're already invalidated.

>>378720814
>It's nomura's idea
>except it was actually Squares idea
Do you just read select words and then reply like a retard

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wew, almost thought we lost xv-kun after that rather good ff thread 1-2 days ago

>>378720971
The XIII one?
That was comfy.

I wonder where that anon who didn't visit xv threads enough to recognize xv-kun posting from the other day is. He could witness this guy's autism in full force if he were here right now

>>378718875
Tabata XV is better than the musical Nomura wanted to make, fuck off cuck.

>>378720935
>>378721147
Based

>>378719327
that never existed, it was a concept

>>378721221
No one likes an ironic asskisser

>>378719831
This. He's a terrible director.

>>378720971
B-but insults dude. Cucklmao

>>378718089
>Gackt's original involvement with Square Enix was singing the theme music for Dirge of Cerberus, and appearing in a minor role in that game, playing Genesis. Hideki Imaizumi, the producer of Crisis Core -Final Fantasy VII, thought such a passing role was a waste and asked for more involvement. Imaizumi and Gackt came up with Genesis's design, describing everything from his attitude to his clothes. "I went to eat with him one time and described the Final Fantasy VII universe in rich detail. And it turned into this process of collaboration, creating the character together. Then we went to the studio and recorded the Japanese voice with all that in mind. So he really was a creative partner in all of this. And we really wanted the connection between Dirge of Cerberus and Crisis Core."

>>378719237
>you havnt even played XV.
Most unfortunately I have.

>Except you tap to dodge roll
Worthless.

>tap to use shields too
You can hold them too retard.

>Enemies do telegraph attacks
Nice webm of one of the slowest enemies in the game that was one of the earliest in Versus, so it would be already partially done by the time Hackbata took over and slow animations made it seem like it had tells.

>According to you none of these hits are telegraphed
They aren't, they so fucking slow you have time to react anyway.

>Damage doesn't cap at the end
>XV kun doesn't know damage caps at 9999
Can you possibly get any dumber. And yes, I am aware handful of attacks cap at 99999, which doesn't make it any less retarded, an in fact compounds the problem.

>Normal attacks are useful the entire game.
Must be why no one bothers with them in high level (by which I mean smart, not character level before your autism activates) play, and just sticks to link attacks, magic and armiger.

>Armiger is about royal arms so doing royal arm damage you dumb fuck
>there's a story reason why its shit
That still means it's shit.

>why the fuck would regular weapons influence that?
Because that would make for good gameplay, which I'm guessing neither you nor Tabata understand.

>You can tap to do it
Which is entirely pointless.

>it does a fuckton with free bonus damage with armiger chain.
It's also boring as fuck.

>There is no need to ever have to launch enemies
Reposition them, guaranteed stun, easier to connect with aerial attacks.

>when you can already stun them
Which you're not doing in a single strike every time you use said strike.

>make them vulnerable on the ground.
Where their buddies can still clobber you.

>No you can only get lucky against Aranea doing that
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8IO-29B2nk

>Nothing wrong about summons being interwoven into the narrative
I wasn't talking about Summons you halfwit and no one gives a shit about 'narrative' in a video game.

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>>378720402
SBK91 you havnt even played XV so you should stop embarrassing yourself already.

No need for double jumps when airsteps and warps exist.

Shotguns and bazookas were never shown being used and it was already stated in versus Noctis firearms were all auto anyway

literally no benefit in doing that when it moves slower than Noctis walks and just shoots out a missile that is doing damage that three basic sword hits does anyway, plus the same missiles are at the turrets at the military bases. not like you'd know since you havnt even played XV

>>378719504
>We already know those are being added to the game, the survey just mentions other things they're also doing
And where was it stated they're working on all that at once.

>>378721652
Please don't respond to XV-kun.

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>>378720698
So an awesome spectacle? What's the problem?

>>378720006
>exploit
>doing exactly what the food is described as doing

>>378720528
>meanwhile he's the secret super tough boss from KH2FM just beat by mashing O.
Nice job cutting off the earlier part of the video and forgetting about L1.

>>378720827
You can stay airborne in XV as long as you want through airstep aerial attacks, warps and warpstrikes. You can't in KH.

>>378721795
So it is actually possible to lose that shit fight..

>>378721795
It's more "spectacle" but with zero challenge. It's almost impossible to lose that fight unless you go off the map.

>>378719831
>Remove him from game directing for everyones sake

Nomura hasn't been any good in a long while and I wouldn't blame Tabata for anything really.

That said Square enix for some reason loves attaching Nomura's name to everything, they probably consider him their own Hideo Kojima. A creatively strong brand name.

>>378720936
>square
And who's this square person?

>>378720708
there are some other artists that did better Smash art but it is reassuring to know that Nomura's ideal Cloud is still a buff dude.

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>>378721627
Just stop, just because the producer approached him doesn't change the fact that Nomura was heavily involved in his involvement too by designing him as well as being the creative producer on CC

>>378721687
>tries to disprove XV lacks hitstun
>webm shows an enemy suffer from blockstun
?

>No need for double jumps when airsteps and warps exist.
Double jumps can do things those can't. Dante has an air dash, teleport, dive kicks, flight, and still gets a double jump. Why the fuck didn't Noctis?

>Shotguns and bazookas were never shown being used
And this excuses Tabata not incorporating fun weapons?

>it was already stated in versus Noctis firearms were all auto anyway
Have you not played DMC3 or 4? Bayonetta? Wonderful 101? What the fuck does not aiming with a gun in an action game have to do with anything?

>literally no benefit in doing that
>no benefit
>meatshield and additional moveset
What?

>when it moves slower than Noctis walks
Where was it stated that was the only suit again?

>>378710102
>immortal since you can pause to heal
Wait, what the hell? I never played FFXV, but didn't everyone learn from Dragon's Dogma that the whole "pause to heal" thing was just abysmal and ruined any difficulty?

>>378721890
>You can stay airborne in XV as long as you want through airstep aerial attacks, warps and warpstrikes
>uses Trident warp strike
>brings you to the ground
Come again?

>>378722242
>Tabata
>learning
Choose one, and only one.

>>378722242
>"pause to heal" thing was just abysmal and ruined any difficulty
Yes and it's actually worse in Nier Automata than XV if you can imagine that.
AJRPGs were a mistake.

>>378709584
I remember my friend telling me about how FFXV would have 30+ hours of content in just the main story, I think he lies to himself even today to avoid killing himself after the disappointment that must've been FFXV

>>378722507
Pretty sure we all lied to ourselves after beating it: Stage one is denial after all.

>>378722391
>it's actually worse in Nier Automata
Least Nier has Very Hard to solve the healing problem. XV is just a straight joke.

>>378722391
>it's actually worse in Nier Automata
I wouldn't say so just because you don't have a "downed" state to abuse like you do in XV. If you lose all your health it's game over, no Phoenix Down for you. Otherwise they're the same.

>>378722242
It's worse than you can imagine. In XV, you can pause to use Phoenix Downs on yourself AFTER DEATH. And they're sold cheaply at stores and you can hold up to 99. So it is almost literally impossible to die

>>378722391
But Secret of Mana is great.

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>>378722150
Funny, because Naoto Hirooka is credited as the costume designer that made >>378718089, which actually came before that sketch.

All Nomura did was sort of clean it up for Crisis Core

>as well as being the creative producer on CC
Creative producer doesn't actually mean much. It just means "I'm the guy that approves other people's ideas and has the final say if something is cool or not."
http://www.mentorless.com/2016/07/03/creative-producer-difference-producer-sarah-green/
>"A lot of what I’m doing is just sitting, watching and having a different perspective.
You know I’m not the director, I’m not in the trenches, so I’m not shooting what we’re having on the monitor, I’m just observing everything that is going on. And sometimes I can address problem before they even happen or the director may come back to me and say “You’ve been watching thay, what do you feel about this or that?”

So really, the most you can say is that Nomura didn't filter out the shit ideas.

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>>378721652
No you havnt

It's more useful than phasing which you'd know if you had played it.

And you only stagger enemies by tapping at the right moment you retard. Which you'd know if you had played it.

The iron giant was never shown in any versus trailer you fucking idiot. The animator and battle desighers on XV is the same animators and battle designers since Versus which you'd know if you bothered to do any research.

Jesus fucking christ you literally have no idea what telegraphed attacks mean if those iron giant swings aren't telegraphed to you, you couldn't be more braindead.

First of all that's maxed damage without the cap you fucking idiot, literally the acension grid ability takes off the limit and that's the absolute max attack which is more than you can say with shitty KH.

Link attacks can only be done through regular attacks you stupid cunt, which you'd know if you had played it. Everyone usee regular attacks on any level play because they're always useful.

They're great, only shit here is you and your post.

So not only do you have no idea how special abilities work but you have no idea how regular weapons or armiger works either. Damn SBK91 you're really going all out with your autism.

No it isn't.

No it's cool as fuck and free bonus damage.

No point to repostion them in the air when you can already stun them on the ground with guaranteed stun, and it's always going to connect too. At least pretend you've played it.

Where's this cobbling happening? Even using just shields you can wreck large mobs.

Ring alterna being RNG doesn't in anyway detract from it, there is a reason the luck stat existed in older FFs. And everyone who actually cares about RPGs cares about narrative being interwoven into the gameplay. Eat shit SBK91.

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>>378723125
>TFW don't know who or what SBK91 is

>>378706741
pissed me off the most, really representative of all the changes they made.

>>378723180
A member of xv-kun's list of people he likes to complain about

>>378721737
Because they're already working on those things mentioned so why wouldn't they also be doing the other things which they are the onee who brought up, not to mention the survey says "items that get many votes" which already implies a plural of things getting done.

>>378721808
You might want to look up what exploit means.

>>378721879
pressing l1 is as hard as pressing r2 to use an item, are you fucking serious?

>>378723089
Not to disagree with you but they also contribute ideas as well depending on how smoothly production is going

Give it to me straight, what are the chances of Versus XIII ever becoming a reality?

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>>378723089
This. Funny thing is, for all the shit people give Nomura, the only thing Nomura was really involved with for the Compilation of FFVII was Advent Children, which is arguably the entry that was least shit when the director's cut came out.

Did you know that Takeshi Nozue was actually behind the decision to change Tifa's outfit? I always thought it was Nomura, but apparently, that's just another thing he gets blamed for.

>>378723568
-100%

>>378723568
The same amount of chances as your atoms perfectly aligning with a wall so you may pass through it.

>>378723602
Tifa looks hot as fuck in that outfit, how is that a controversial change?

>>378723568
About as much as everyone in this thread getting a gf

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>>378723525
>Tabata probably sent Nomura a survey to ask what he'd like to see in Crisis Core.

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>>378722231
>he doesn't know you can attack with the shield which deflects stuff too.
Dante can't warpstrike, Noctis has no need for a double jump when he can just warp strike to any high up enemy

So Nomura not showing them is Tabata's fault?

Have you? Because they don't function like actual guns in shooter games so it doesn't fucking matter what type of gun they are if it's all auto.

Meatshield you mean like the turrets already do anyway? Shooting the same rockets anyway? How is moving 5cm a step benefitting anything?

Where was it stated there was any other kind?