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Final Fantasy XIV: Stormblood

English Translators on Suicide Watch

https://www.youtube.com/user/MTQcapture/videos
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So which is it, PLD or DRK?
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Post YFW
>not WHM
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>>378703896
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_kTBbTSjZpI
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>>378703765
Pressing Power Surge before every other Jump took 0 thought, it was just a button to press

Are you a literal child that think more buttons = better?

>>378703864
Likely both at this rate, unless you have a greedy SAM or NIN somehow gets one
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>linking to mtq in the op
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>>378703864
What aesthetic do you want
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Reminder that all jobs are viable and being a good player that can do the savage mechanics properly is 10 times more important than what job you're playing. Only the western fanbase for this game has this obcession with raid efficiency because we aren't as good as the Japs, who basically ignore it because they are actually good at the game.
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>>378703896
>all healing jobs ready to go at 60
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>sorry i can't dps i'm too busy fishing lilies
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>>378703986
Its the best non bullshit preview of everything
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I'm going to give you a preview of every post in the thread so you don't have to read it.

>Okay, I KNOW that my main job is getting a 1000 potency attack that interacts with their kit in a meaningful way, but did they REALLY have to get rid of this 50 potency oGCD that I spammed on cooldown thoughtlessly?
>God, what a fucking nerf! X job in the cuckshed for SB!!!!@
>Fucking hack Yoshi P can't do anything right what a goddamn retard this game is so fucking terrible I can't even believe it, literally the worst shit I've ever played, makes me want to stab myself in the eyes, holy fuck it's bad. *purchases another month of subscription* *preorders stormblood*.
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>>378703896
>mfw NIN is still good
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MTQ capture is shit and I will never forgive her for a5s.
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Help, MCH or BRD. I'd like to go RDM but it's not even worth it when 90% of DPS are going to be it
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Post your day 1 Stormblood plans. In what order are you going to do stuff in?
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>>378703961
>Are you a literal child that think more buttons = better?
Yes. More shit to keep track of = more skill required to be good at, obviously.
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>>378703896
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>>378704105
>all those MNKs shitposting about NIN a week or so ago
whos laughing now motherfucker
WHOS IN THE SHED NOW
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>>378703896
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>tfw going to unlock NIN soon
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>>378704168
>WHOS IN THE SHED NOW
Literally everyone but SAM.
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>>378704074
>non bullshit
Nigger she can't even read the tool tips properly and still leaves shit out and gets stuff wrong
Even reddit is a better source right now, mtq has never been good for anything
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>next week possibke dungeon/boss trailer
>EA/E3 week possible release trailer on stage
Who /xivhype/ here?
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Ten fire ivs
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>>378704075
Go to sleep, anon.
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>>378704036
You're like 16 year old Civic drivers that spout "DRIVER MATTERS NOT THE CAR I'M TOTALLY NOT POOR BTW" religiously
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So I just play AST until WHM gets buffed? Please don't make play SCH I hate SCH.
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>>378703864
Both are so close it'll be based on the groups total comp. I could see DRK/PLD or PLD/WAR.
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>>378703896
>mfw smn
So who should I switch to rdm or blm?
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>Game has become FEED THE SAM YOUR BUFFS
>oh but you can come to the raid, little WHM, because you do 100 more dps than that SCH
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I only just got to 60 and finished the MSQ and I did it with a class I don't want to play in SB (SMN).

Now I have no idea what to play. Kinda thinking a tank. Running out of time to level though.
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>>378704313
AST is good, SCH got cucked, WHM got cucked harder
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>>378704265
You need her to read the tooltips for you and tell you if its changed? Im not making excuses for her missing details, but its still the best comprehensive videos.
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>Riddle of Fire is 15% speed loss and 30% dmg increase, compared to ENG which is 30% speed lost and 20% dmg increase

mnks not dead yet boiyos!
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>>378704380
Just have fun anon. Just have fun.
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who playing samurai on day 1 here?
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>mnks getting cucked out of their starring expansion
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>>378704380
You can do 1-50 in a day via PotD. I'd recommend 1-25 in the overworld though, it might be a bit faster
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>>378704416
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>>378704137
>Unlock SAM
>Start to PoTD grind to 60

It would be great if I could do that in a day so I can start on the MSQ over the weekend.
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>>378703896
>mfw nocturnal fucking AST
I don't know if it's even necessary to turn the shields into literal crit adlos but I'll take it.
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>>378704160
I'd rather have more complex fights than jobs.

Less focusing on rotations, dots, buffs, etc. and more on mechanics
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>>378704295
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why'd they take away my LA. I don't want to have to slot a mana refresh
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>>378704313
Yes. You can still use whm for dungeons due to its retarded aoe output.
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>>378704410
And I'm telling you why it's not and that there are better compiled resources that dug through the shit and didn't miss anything
Stop shilling for mtq you beta fuck
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>>378704489
>You can do 1-50 in a day via PotD.
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What happened to scholars? Did we get put in the cuckshed?
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>>378704527
Why not both?
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>>378704489
>subjecting yourself to that much PotD in one sitting
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So is there any reason to bring brd over mch to a raid when brd just increases crit by a little and has a small bit of dmg reduction while mch has raidwide dps increases?
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>>378704608
Because the latter is sleep-inducing.
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>>378704305
You have two options
1 - Acknowledge that every job is viable, find a group of people who agree with you and play with the job you like the most, playing well and trying to make up for the 100dps difference
2 - Bitch ceaselessly about job changes because job1 is now 1% less efficient than job2, formenting the playerbase's belief that some jobs shouldn't be played at all in savage, making the game more boring for everyone becuase you want to have an excuse for not being able to clear savage
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>>378704075
>Okay, I KNOW that my main job is getting a 1000 potency attack that interacts with their kit in a meaningful way, but did they REALLY have to get rid of this 50 potency oGCD that I spammed on cooldown thoughtlessly?

I wish

>put essential class skills in the cross-role box, replaced them with nothing
>stoneskin gone
>repeatedly cast hardly used spells for a 20% chance of slightly reducing cool downs on emergency buttons

t. Gonna roll SCH in 4.0
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>>378704360
I can see white mage being cucked but just because smn has some nerfed abilities doesn't mean they weren't added elsewhere. That and the tooltip on fester is a typo. If you look at footage of the event fester does way more damage than painflare does when they should be the same potency based on tooltips.
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>>378704590
Your aoe damage is shit now, but WHM is still worse so unless people are running double AST your raid spot is safe.
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>>378704590
Look at this shit anon

LOOK AT IT
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Let's talk RDM.
>Flashiest animations
>Dualcast burst
>Cure that is not useless
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>>378704489
> You can do 1-50 in a day
Even a brain cancer will get cancer from this shit,.
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>tfw main BLM and immune from the cuckshed because Yoshi mains BLM too
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It begins

>>378704589
>>378704642
I just took DRG from 34 to 51 in there. I'm done with monk
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>>378704513
I think it takes 36 potd runs to get from 50-60 assuming you run 50-60, you should have it done assuming you go for 12 hours straight
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>>378704489
how do you enter the PotD?

I'm just hit 25 CNJ(15 arcanist) for the first time and can't figure out how to unlock it.
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>>378704564
Then link those resources you stupid bitch or stop sperging
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>>378704379
lmao never ever WHMcuck
SCH at least has better battle litany, WHM has N O T H I N G
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I figure I might as well ask here but just today I was running PotD and my framerate went from 100+ to sub 30. I checked my graphics card and everything is running perfectly fine and I don't have much running the background either. Anyone else ever experience this?
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>>378704590
Your dps got cucked because you unfortunately share ACN with SMN, but you got a crit buff to make up for it.
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>>378704590
Yeah noct can get instant crit aldo lol
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>>378704137
>Finish the MSQ in one day by playing 17 hours straight
>Go to the xiv thread and make some hot new memes
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>>378704305
You're not really making your case, bud.
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>>378703721
How is it? worth getting back in for?
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>>378704674
>having to pay attention and keep track of your skills/rotations is sleep inducing
Whatever floats your boat my man.
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>>378704726
>I will need to cast cure I/cure II to get lillies

WHMs were a mistake
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>>378703896
>tfw not WHM
>tfw AST
Cant spell "master race" without AST!
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>>378704590
SCH is still highest single target damage of all the healers, but the aoe got turbo dicked down (lol who cares in savage)
Also >>378704703
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>>378704725
>tfw main BLM and got cucked by SAM's 1080p HQ dick
it's ogre lads, i'm converting
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>>378704809
Did you care for raiding in the top 1%?
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>>378704726
>I just took DRG from 34 to 51 in there.
How long did this take you and did you PUG it?
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>>378704676
I'm along for the ride and just rerolling whatever isn't garbage, probably BRD or MCH. Haven't bitched once in these threads despite my main going into the cuck shed but obviously jobs do matter even if it's not everything
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>>378704703

Yessss, tell me more.
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ESTIMATED CLASS POPULARITY FOR STORMBLOOD:
Tanks
PLD
DRK
WAR

Healers
AST
WHM
SCH

Damage Dealers
SAM
RDM
DRG
BRD
SMN
MNK
BLM
NIN
MCH

>what is up with that tank order?
PLD changes will make a lot of players return to their old mains. DRK will retain its edgelord playerbase. WAR players will flock to SAM due to muh deeps.

>WHM not least popular healer? shit list
Some disgruntled WHMs will either go AST or RDM. However, due to the ease of the job many casuals will stick with it.

>NIN/BLM/SMN that low?
Massive NIN weeb exodus to SAM, spellcasters will also flock to RDM.
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>>378704739
https://ffxiv.consolegameswiki.com/wiki/Palace_of_the_Dead

Keep in mind that it's slower to level in there if you with your highest level class, 50% exp increase instead of the 100% that you get with armory bonus
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>>378703721
I am going to FUCK a Raen loli
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>>378704886
I can't hear you over the sound of all these fucking fire ivs
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>>378704816
>recite the exact same sequence from memory
>literally looking at a bunch of clocks ticking down
>not sleep inducing
Ok
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>0 interest in e3
>tfw only open /v/ to check the shillblood threads
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>>378704923
>war will flock to sam due to muh deeps
Yea no
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>>378704923
SMN might be good for double caster comps given the new info we just got. BLM and RDM both look pretty solid right now.
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>>378704969
>a rotation of 1-1-1-1-1-1-2-2-1-1-1-1-1 is fun if you occasionally need to not stand in fire
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>>378705018
Every now and then /v/ has a decent thread about another game, but it's rare.
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>>378704893
6ish hours and pugged it all the way. It helped after I took the leader role so when I went to the teleporter, everyone else followed me there, aside from the maybe three explorers that I happened to bump into
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>>378704674
>having more to pay attention to and execute is sleep-inducing compared to dumbed down pruned option-less kits
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>>378704137
Gather and sell for sky high prices. Schlomo won't have shit on me.
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>>378704726
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>>378704969
Well at least now you can fall asleep even faster because there's even less!
Don't get your hopes up for thought-provoking raids either, it'll be as braindead as ever.
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>>378703896
i can't post that face without lying
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>>378704741
>literally already told him
>w-well where are they
Stupid shills
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>>378704923
>WAR will flock to SAM due to muh deeps.

I dunno, it's a big switch from tank to dps. A lot of players switching are usually staying in a relatively similar role.
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>Healers dedicating their time to healing in PotD
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>378705110
it's fun only if they made the fire fun

rotations will never be fun. they're the easiest thing you can do, even more so if it's fixed and solvable with muscle memory.
i played MCH for a while, got top dps and got bored to death at the same time
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>>378704068
good

healers that dps are 10/10 the biggest shitters and dont try to feed me that "but muh utility" bullshit. raid wide damage attacks and untimely aoes need to be your concern thats why cleric stwnce was removed
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>>378704360
I don't think smn is as bad off as people say. I think they're overlooking that all pet damage was buffed by 30%. Also two ahk morns (1360 potency total) every 2 minutes.
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>>378703896
if you play as a healer you are gay or a woman.
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>>378704809
Do you like SWIMMING?
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>>378704878
what are you talking about? scholar has always had lowest single target dps
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>>378705250
WARs dont tank, At all. 95% of them doest know what defiance for.
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>>378705317
Go play a different game if your time is so important. :^)
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>>378705329
I find complex rotations a lot more fun than simple ones but there's no reason to not have more challenging fights without giving classes braindead rotations
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>>378705317
pay for my sub or pull more
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>>378705168
>buffs and dots
>literally shit that run in the background until the end of their duration where you go "oh, time to refresh"
>pay attention to and execute
lol
they pruned all of these braindead skills away to give space for MORE options. at least that's the case for healers and some dps.
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>>378705423
I don't even understand how they do it. I would blow my brains out if I had to play a healer in this game and couldn't DPS.
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>>378705332
>thats why cleric stwnce was removed
It wasn't removed nice bait
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>>378705370
>what are you talking about? scholar has always had lowest single target dps
Not entirely sure where you got that idea from, but its mathematically and factually false. All you gotta do is check fflogs.
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>>378705501
They've literally made everything easier.
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>>378705352
Not to mention when spamming ruin with bahamut up, even without ahk morn, you're doing 200 total potency per gcd (his shockwave being 50 higher than your pet's default attack). That's the same as spamming ruin 3 now.
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>>378705526
>complete change in functionality
>not removed
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>>378705352
If demimut isn't buffed by rouse I'm gonna be mad.
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how is this game for casuals?
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Hear me out for a second: what if we added a support role to focus on shields, buffs and other utility at the cost of DPS while making healer full time healers?

For example, WHM would be a healer but SCH and BRD could be lightly reworked into a support role
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>>378705526
autismo detected
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>>378705602
I see more utility on my healers than ever though
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>>378705352
This. Also Fester was BUFFED not nerfed. It's new potency means 200 potency per dot so each fester has 400 potency. It's worded stupidly but oh well.
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ayy it's yo boy mr.happy
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>>378704168
You still are. SAM took your spot in raids, faggot.
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>>378705669

http://freetrial.finalfantasyxiv.com/na/
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>>378705229
Stay mad Josephat
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>janitors moving video game threads out of /v/

What in the actual fuck is going on with this website
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>>378703896
As someone who has a 60 WHM and hasn't played in nearly 2 years, what did Yoshi do to them that is making everyone meme about them?

I was going to wait until the new expansion came out before I re-subbed but it looks like I better re-sub now and get my AST to 60.
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>>378705602

I play AST and shit looks I just got more stuff to play with. Not seeing how my job was dumbed down at all
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>>378705669
game is literally built for casuals, anything requiring the least bit of effort is a minigame
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I understand a lot of the frustration and worrying over the recent info, but could we take a moment to admire how beautiful SB areas look to be?

https://youtu.be/yFeF4CEu4gA

All that music is so comfy
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>>378705317
>Hit a landmine just before the exit
>Healer steps out of the circle and starts making sure everyone is topped off
>Mob spawns behind them and now we have to deal with that
>Healer makes sure everyone is topped off again before finally standing in the fucking circle again

FUCKING STOP
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>>378705352
Rend and Mind already affect the summons dmg.

Please stop spreading misinfo saying 'summons dmg will be buffed'.

Read your goddamn tooltips you fuckin inbreds
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>>378705329
>rotations will never be fun
Maybe at shitter-tier skill levels.
You're always thinking/trying new things/learning/experimenting at high levels. Most raids have unique situations in which you have to adapt your rotation for.
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>>378705680
Noone will take into raide fag, We going ast and sch. Fuck off.
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>Tfw too dumb for golden saucer stuff so Out on a Limb is the only thing you can do to get mgp
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>>378704168
I laughed at SAMs for looking boring, but they're putting every physical dps in the shed, maybe DRGs can stay out of it for Battle Litany, as long as they promise to use it when the SAM demands it.
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>>378705680
It's nearly impossible to break up the holy trinity in modern MMOs, and YoshiP is definitely not the man who would try to do it.
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How long would it take me to level a 50 to 60 through PotD? And it's only Floors 51-60 I'm supposed to use for grinding, right?
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>>378705732
Generals belong in /vg/
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>>378705669
Fights and classes aren't as braindead as WoW but MSQ is 90% boring fetch quests and you'll have a couple hundred between ARR and Heavensward excluding leveling
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>>378705771
The only frustrations are coming from people who don't play the classes their talking about.
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>>378705771
Can we admire how beautiful this NPC is and how much femdom art of her is going to flood pixiv?
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>>378705835
my brain is so full of fuck, main and mend, yes I mad
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>>378705885
running floors 51-100 will get you basically one level from levels 50 to 60
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>>378705885
around 15hours
Yes
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>>378705701
Really? It's 200?
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>>378704105
they're okay, but i expected more. they got 2 traits in place of new abilities and all 3 of their abiltiies are tied to the same meter so they can't actively use them.

They got jack shit.

dragoon is better than ever over a nin
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>>378704923
>Massive NIN weeb exodus to SAM
I'm a NIN weeb that's sticking with NIN
/shrug
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>>378705771
Maybe it's the youtube quality compression or the 5 year old engine, but it wasn't as impressive as ARR or HW videos about the zones were.
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>>378705924
>video game gets massive update
>/v/ is literally not allowed to talk about said video game

OH BUT I CAN POST SOME TWITTER SCREENCAP OF SOME LITERALLY WHO INDIE DEV BEING MAD AT POLITICS

Yes I'm mad
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>>378705885
36 runs if you already have a 60 after SB launches and the armory bonus is increased for those levels
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>>378705946
I really want her to step on me
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>>378705879
More wondering about its feasibility in a parallel universe where the game isn't run by incompetent morons
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>>378705771
I'm super excited about the ayzim steppe
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>>378705954
Honestly feels like dungeons + hunt bills from ishgard + beast tribes would be faster
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>>378706002
It's only a problem when threads are chained back to back like a general.
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>>378705924
>REEEEEEE DON'T TALK ABOUT GAMES, MAKE A PLATFORM WARS OR OVERWATCH WAIFU THREAD
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>>378705938
what is msq
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>>378706002
>swimming and skill prune
>massive update
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world pvp zone confirmed for 4.1
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>WAR and AST are two of the best jobs in 3.0

How does YoshiP balance them for 4.0?

By making them even better!
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>>378706073
They would be. You need about 4 of the highest level HW dungeon to go up a level.
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>>378705924
And people are supposed to talk about video games on /vg/ but so much for that. Would you prefer another P5 waifu thread or another /pol/tard whining about Farcry?
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>FFXIV threads on /v/ move fast as hell
>Everyone is actually talking about the game
I finally see why you make threads here instead of going to /vg/
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>>378705865
don't forget being literal butt buddies with dragon sight
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>>378705843
If it's anything like HW and if whms bitch enough they will get buffed to high heavens like ast in 3.4. Or something will get nerfed for "balance".
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>>378706130
Main story quest. It's where most of your leveling on your first job will come from
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>>378706160
STOP RUINING MY DREAMS. YOU'RE LYING
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>>378705591
it's funny since now more than ever has WHM moved away from DPSing

its like they forgot their own questlines
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>>378706170
AST was not wanted until 3.4
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>>378706206
And people say XIV is dying.
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>>378705978
>the massive spike from ten chi jin leading into TA then kassatsu raiton
>potency buffs all over
>b-but drg though
Battle litany is keeping you out of the shed
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>>378706170
A HAHAHA get fucked other healers
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FUCK I CAN'T WAIT

When do we actually get Early Access?
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I swear to god the new endgame town better not have annoying bagpipes
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>>378706053
Perhaps. I'm sure competent game devs could come up with ways to implement a 4th role into the system and make it interesting. The problem is that the MMO community has been proven to not like that sort of thing nowadays.
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>>378706349
It'll probably be dying again a couple of months after the expansion.
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>>378706063
I'm going to need that orchestral roll asap for that place, god damn
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>>378706381
the 16th
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>>378706381
16th
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Where are the DRG tool tips?
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>>378706371
>wanting to be around mhiggers
I'll take the horse fuckers over them any day
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>>378706352
I'm actually a ninja player speaking from dissapointment. I don't fucking want to play dragoon but ninja has lost half of what made it worth bringing
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>>378705946
/step
/steppedon

emotes when, Yoshi?
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>>378706503
>>378706474
I'm ready.

Going to get another 60 days on 10th
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>>378706407
Eh, I just like support roles that only really heal in emergencies. I felt like Chanter in Aion filled that pretty well
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Is this real life
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>>378706426
Delicious brown!
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>>378706352
the potency buffs are because we lost all damage buffs, ninja got nothing new utility wise while dragoon got even more. I mean we'll have to see how parses are over all with the changes, but as is ninja seems to just be the "bring if you want a bit more enmity control" class now.
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>>378706632
They are going all out with the shilling
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>>378706376
Hate to break it to you, but AST got really cucked out of DPS in SB
Combust is gone, you only have Combust II now
You get Malefic III but its only 10 more potency than Malefic II
Otherwise, you have that RNG damage ability, and a bad version of Assize.

AST will still be a god though, because their healing is nuts and the Balance is overpowered, so enjoy that
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midare setsugekka
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>>378704703
What if this can only be cast on your allies?
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Question, why do some groups want BRDs over MCH?
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>>378704923
>WAR players will flock to SAM due to muh deeps.

Partly true because I'm doing that. Also ditching NIN as my melee DPS because their changes look meh.
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>>378706632
>have a Carl's Jr not far from me.
Welp, looks like I'm gonna be a good goy the next time I head out.
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>>378706769
its on enemies. meaning they TAKE 20% more crits by everyone
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>>378706557
We lost 2 enmity skills and a dot, the venoms being skills had no use since vipers added effect on mug was worthless, that's far from half
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>>378705837
I modify my rotations all the time to accommodate each fight, but given the simon says nature of the game it will just be another sequence to commit to memory.

The most fun I had with the game was handling mechanics with my class's unique utilities and skills.
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>>378706632
>>378706694
woah...so this is where the 35 million budget went into
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>>378706769
Its cast on an enemy
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name your classes for pf group for the omega raid
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>>378706158
You forgot to mention the ENTIRE NEW EXPANSION that comes with those, but whatever i guess it's pretty minor
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>>378706848
You didn't lose enmity skills. Ninja still has both Smokebomb and Shadewalker.
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>>378706695
>AST dps ever being relevant
>a bad version of assize
>heals for a shitload more while being on a 30s less cooldown
nice damage control WHM
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>>378706426
Sauce.
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>>378706793
Why SCH? They went from good to even better
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>>378706938
PLD+WAR+AST+SCH+SAM+MNK+NIN+MCH
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>>378706848
ninja was brought in for Trick Attack, Shadewalker/Smokescreen, and Goad

Shadewalker isn't needed as much. You can do without smokescreen since everyone can pick up enmity reduction now.

This means the only reason you'd want a ninja is trick attack now. So unless their raw damage output outclasses a dragoon by a good bit now, there will be no reason to bring them over battle litany, disembowel, and the new dragon sight for +5% to another dps, preferably a SAM
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PoTD exp chart for people wondering. Getting RDM/SAM caught up will take no time, even with shitty pug groups.
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>>378706857
You can tell it's specifically for Americans.
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>>378705771
FFXIV has shit graphics though. The graphics are so bad that if you turn on the parallax it turns the ground into malformed playdough and emphasizes how shitty the textures are. Everything is low poly too.
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>>378705332
yes, because it was impossible to survive through raid fights if your healer dps'd
that's why every single serious group didn't have their healers dps at all
you fucking cunt retard, genuinely fucking please kill yourself
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>>378706938
Tank
Tank
Healer
Healer
DPS
DPS
DPS
DPS

I'm not autistic.
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>>378706991
nonsummer jack, anubis
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>>378706632
>Stand in line for burger for 20 minutes
>Cashier keeps adding shit without asking
>He gets upset when I ask him what the fuck he's doing
>"Wooooow baby can't handle it? Is this your first time here or something faggot?
>Simply ask him to get my order right
>"Worthless noob I quit here and I'll be in another itchy uniform in 2 minutes"
>Just want to eat after that wait
>He just stomps off in a fury
>End up ERPing with the fry cook
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>>378706981
Healer DPS is always relevant. And yeah, its a shittier Assize, it hits for 100 less potency if you let it sit for 10s.
AST is only good for the Balance, I hope you realize this
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>>378706963
I didn't see it still on the list and thought shirk and whatever the personal enmity dump was replaced it, glad they are still there
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>>378706991
NonSummerJack

Have a nice fap Anon
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>>378707050
>2 tanks and healers

lel
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>>378703721
>touch of death removed
OH BOY
>they kept arm of the destroyer
>steel peak stun removed, making skill pointless
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>ITT: We laugh at DRK cucks
nice edge you got there
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>>378706938
Anyone because I know we won't be getting world firsts and will be casual to mid tier.
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>>378704923
>im a stupid idiot please rape my face
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>>378707030
If we get the 100% bonus
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>>378706632
>Limited Edition plastic cup
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Don't worry WHM. There might be some days where an AST or SCH can't log in. Then it's your time to shine.
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>>378707030
>12hours of mindnumbingly running the most boring content in the game with a bunch of RDMs and SAMs that have no clue how to play their new job
>no time

pick one
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>>378707041
at least it's not literal PS1 graphics like WoW or runs on a cuck engine like Source/Unreal that somehow manages to produce shittier graphic while being more stressful on the system
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>>378707030
Thanks, anon.
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>>378703896
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>>378706938
PLD, WAR, SCH, AST, SAM, DRG, RDM/SMN, MCH/BRD
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>>378707042
>every single serious group

every group with a smooth ride has healers healing and dps killing, yes

i bet you think healers need to dps during a10s dps checc too
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>>378706632
Unforrtunately i didn't save the screenshot but they eat at a Carl's Junior in a couple of episodes of Akiba's Trip. It's starting to get up there with pizza hut on the weeb fast food chains
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>>378707113
>not playing the way Yoshi wants you to play
I assure you they've fixed this and shit will be impossible to solo tank/heal
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>>378706938

pld/ast/rdm/sam/sam/sam/sam/sam
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>>378707113
>implying there won't be tank swap
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>>378706938
>he doesnt have a static
PLD WAR AST SCH SAM BRD
the last two DPS are undecided, most likely SMN and NIN?
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>>378707290
why a RDM over a machinist? their damage buff will last longer for the sam
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>>378707205
Not him but WoW's cartoony graphics at least to me are preferable to muh hyperrealism. What I don't like is how every fucking building and structure is copy pasted from the last
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>>378706426
Non is a goddess
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>>378707023
Trick Attack is still much better than either Litany or Disembowel, and Disembowel got nerfed to 5%. NIN also got a potency increase on all its skills, plus new big damage skills like Ten Chi Jin.
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>>378707023
>no reason to bring a group wide benefit that hasn't been nerfed
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>>378705317
I have to build up my lilies :^)
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>>378707078
>food analogy
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>>378707403

decent heals/emergency raise machine
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>>378707282
From another anime.
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>>378706823
No, I mean SCH shields rely on critting to be their best, what if this just buffs the SCH's ability to crit with its skills on the SCH's target
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>>378707001
>Baning two dots
>Bane itself is shit now
>no Miasma II
>Shadowflare has a cooldown
>no Blizzard II
What am I supposed to do, spam Broil when there's 10 mobs?
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>>378707078
>you dont pay my wages
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>>378707096
>hurr muh assize deeps
it heals for OVER TWICE the amount of assize on a 60s cooldown, BEFORE getting buffed at which point it heals for three times not accounting Sect bonuses

>AST is only good for the Balance
Redditor detected. Balance doesn't mean jack shit outside of extreme ideal situations. Make sure to Spire/Ewer your dps if they're low or just get revived because Balance is completely wasted in these cases, or Arrow that BLM because he doesn't need to wait for balance when your fishing efforts give you spear-spire-spear-spire-spear-bole-ewer.
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So if pvp is now requires only lvl 30 and a job stone does that means that free trial players could play pvp too?
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>>378707515
You would be fucked if you ever needed the RDM to be casting heals/raise. Same situation with SMN.
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>>378707508
>Sylvies will now have an excuse not to DPS
Fuck you Yoshi P
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>>378707567

spam blizzard 2
oh wait
spam miasma 2
oh wait
cast aero on everything
oh wait
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>>378707454
thats exacttly why though, 3/4ths of their party benefit got nerfed
>>378707451
ninja potency increase is because it lost b4b and IR, it literally needed those boosts to stay remotely relevant.

and you mean "skill" since you can only ever use one of their new skills at a time since they all share the same resource for some dumbass reason.

We'll have to wait for numbers but most likely ninja is still going to be slightly behind optimal dragoon parses
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>>378707559
Because we saw him cast it on a striking dummy in the trailer
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SAM looks great, definitely going to make it my DPS class

tank main for life tho
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>>378707659
>tfw they rewrite the quest so Sylphie is right
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>>378703721
why do they look like morrowind characters?
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>>378704923
> tfw play PLD and BRD from ARR all ten way trough HW
> shitters now switching to my classes
Fuck off, PLD will still be boring defensive tank and BRD won't be fun, go away
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>>378707668
OH NO
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>>378707769
but she's a conjurer, not a whm :)
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>>378707584
We're talking optimization here, anon. DPS won't die and statistically you don't want to waste Arrows on BLMs because it sets back the next potential Balance that already has over a 50% chance to show in the next 30s
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>>378707129
t. war increasingly nervous that he's headed for the shed
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>>378707659
60-70 WHM quest will be Sylvie coming back
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NO PRIMAL NOOOOOOOOOO
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>>378707567
>aoe
>mattering outside of story dungeons
ok
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>>378707864
how is it 50% if a draw gives you a 1 in 6 chance of getting balance and a redraw gives you a 1 in 5 chance
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>>378707929
Don't forget Edda and proto ultima
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>>378707567
>just learned about the shadowflare changes on top of the other nerfs
For fucks sake why are they doing this to SMN?
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>>378707945

how long til SE starts permabanning this shit
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>>378707567
I wonder if dotting each individual mob would be a viable method to dps now
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Holy shit
quality of life updates
!!!!

It only took them like FOUR YEARS
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>>378703896
god it feels good to be an ASTBull
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>>378704075
>Okay, I KNOW that my main job is getting a 1000 potency attack that interacts with their kit in a meaningful way, but did they REALLY have to get rid of this 50 potency oGCD that I spammed on cooldown thoughtlessly?
I'm an hour late but still, fuck you.
>take our 320 potency attack, nerf it by 90, then make your job revolve around buffing yourself and others in the hopes you get lucky and get a lot of stacks to spam it
They could have done so much with chakra and while the base part is fine, they didn't bother to add any new moves that use chakra. Not only that, they didn't bother to alter the useless move Purification and outright nerfed forbidden chakra. Fuck Yoshida, this is horseshit.
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>>378707515
by the time savage comes out that shit'll be fixed. Even if it is intentional, battle raises are super situational, and good luck getting that mana back on rdm.
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>>378708061
PS3 limitations
>>
So what happened? English tooltips were mistranslated?
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>>378707982
I forget how the math works, but it comes out to something like a 63% chance to draw a Balance at any given Draw/Redraw stage
You can probably find it on le reddit or Google
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>>378708003
and minfillia :^)
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>>378708039
Never. They are the ones who really fund the game
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>>378708117
yeah theres some inconsistiencies
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>>378708094
That's why you have a blm to prep the rdm
>>
>DRKs get a 650 potency combo finisher and a 15 cd stoneskin

DAMN SON
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>>378708117
Yes.
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why the damage % decay? do they really hate damage buffs that much?
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>>378708061

this is nice cause you can see the extra zone space that could be added if they decided to expand these areas or add flying
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>>378708117
Koji is a hack, more at 11.
>>
Anyone else happy their main got ruined to give them an excuse to try a new job?
>>
Alright, I've been watching MTQ guides to understand the mechanics of Trials and Raids, But is she bad too watch? Any other way to learn mechanics for trials/raids?
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>>378708196
STOLE IT FROM WHITE MAGE
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>>378708196
650 potency hey? wow thats a lot
>>
>>378708065

Too bad your class looks like a yugioh loving fuckboy
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>>378708094
just beg the blm to battery him :^)
>>
Is a new pvp area coming out at Stormblood?
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>>378708212
I'm okay with it, the less stacking damage buffs, the better.

Going from 3-4, to 0-1, Fantastic.
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>>378708212
Because it lasts 20 seconds and its an even bigger boost for the red mage
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>>378703896
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>>378708261

i main everything so i'm just happy to have new classes to max
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>>378704513

Please lets be realistically here.

>get 3 other sam/red mage
>low glow weapon
>they all have 0 knowledge of how to play the job
>wipe several times on last floors
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>>378704075
>ok, I know that my job is getting a 1000 potency attack that is just a braindead cooldown, did they really have to get rid of this GCD that was part of the core rotation?
>>
They changed the fucking PLD sprint animation holy shit

You dont have to stab yourself in the neck anymore

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yNRzCnCF2lo&feature=youtu.be&t=509
look on the right
>>
God the new dungeon looks FUCKING good. No more gay monochrome and dark, dull as shit corridors and caverns.
>>
>>378705668
>rouse
Anon, there's something we need to tell you...
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>>378708328
4.1
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>>378706564
gentania glamour H O W?
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STOP
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>>378708541
i want her robes and her shiva bikini
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>>378708496
Goddamn it, there is going to be nothing to do then once you do everything in SB and then have to wait 5 months for the 4.1.
>>
>only classes not getting damage nerfs are the tanks
We are calling the shots now
>>
>WARcucks thought their shitty gap closer would be anywhere near plunge potency

LOL
>>
Are DPS queues really that bad?
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>>378707125
You mean the stun that was never used for its stun since 99.9% of bosses are immune to it?
You only used Steel Peak as a oGCD weave, don't lie
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>>378708560
WHAT THE FUCK IS ERP?
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>>378708560
Lemmy is a memer.
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>>378705474
The thing is most rotations aren't complex in the correct ways. It's just buff juggling and keeping dots up. Each rotation should be meant for something that isn't just "Add bleed" "Add dps boost" "highest damage combo". Maybe have melee range
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>>378708009
They're changing SMN to be more dependent on their summons for damage pretty sure, not sure how frequent summoning bahamut will actually be but I think they won't get absolutely cucked. And even if they do they're still better than WHM
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>>378708190
>>378708309
was more talking about the meme comp in the chain.
>pld/ast/rdm/sam/sam/sam/sam/sam
I do kinda wanna see a meme comp of just 7 blms and a rdm for raises trying to do savage desu.
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>>378708642
I believe NIN got only buffs too.
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>>378708690
erotic roleplay
>>
>>378708690

elite raid progression
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>>378708475
nice catch
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>>378708678
yes
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>>378703896
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>>378708690
Erotic Raid Progression
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>Wildfire 60s Cd
>CD matches reassemble rapid fire ricochet
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>>378708678
They're about to get a whole lot worse.
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>>378708752
>>378708751
I am cofused.
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>>378708738
DRG too
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>>378703896
>tfw 120ms nin
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>>378707715
>that's exactly why
So you're just a retard and don't understand why people would continue to bring a skill that wasn't nerfed that benefits literally every member of the party but think think a nerfed disembowel that only benefits two other jobs that are also getting their utility nerfed will keep drg in
I'll say it again, battle litany is what's keeping you out of the shed
If I had to guess I would say mch is on the bubble to be replaced by sam and we are going to see people trying to line up TA and Chained Stratagem windows for maximum ass fucking since it can spit out LB damage numbers
>>
Does Stormblood come with a Fantasia?
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>>378708820
I don't like the flamethrower
When MCH will get a suit or a metal slug?
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>>378708068
>Tornado Kicks ONLY purpose is to dump your GL stacks when youre guaranteed to lose it
>Riddle of Earth now refreshes GL stacks so Tornado kick is actually useless
What the fuck is SE doing with monk
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>>378708872
has DRG ever been nerfed? I can't remember it happening
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>>378708815
>WHM has to service the entire raid team, first by helping the AST bull first
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>>378708667
>half the potency AND it costs 20 beast
It could have 0 damage tied to it and I wouldn't care, but why the meter usage? wtf were they thinking?
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>>378708716
Aether flow is 60 seconds. One aetherflow gets you up to one trance. You needs two trances to get to the third trance with bahamut. That is once every 2 minutes. Their damage will not line up with litany, trick attack or any buffs and by that time their burst will not be that good.
They will never be taken for progression or raid groups and be forever cucked because they were so good in HW.
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Why does WHM get so many shit skills it didn't need?
Plenary Indulgence is such a shit gimmicky skill and spending ALL lilies on Divine Benison that's just a slighty better but annoying-to-get Stoneskin is lame.
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>>378708820
I'm excited for MCH too. I don't know why people are saying it's not going to be good, it looks like it's going to be more or less the same as is now except have even greater burst and another layer of support skills that will actually be used
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>>378708642
Tanks got the worst damage nerfs
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Love my new 14ms ping. Expansion is going to be fucking great
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>>378703896
Still dont understand the mch changes so imma shit post as if it got fucked.
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>>378708889
stop saying you, I'm a nin myself. drg got more party synergy options when it already was brought to raids due to its damage and party synergy.

ninja LOST party synergy (/options have been made available to not need some of their kit) options. thats why I'm saying ninja is likely not as viable anymore unless those potency buffs are significant enough in the long run. like you are talking about the potency buffs, but nin's potencies were pretty trash to begin with so this just brings them up to par
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>>378709049
Your time will come commie.
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>>378708292
It's 650 in grit so that it's just as strong as it is out of grit (520 potency)
Why they did it that way instead of just making it unaffected by the grit damage penalty is beyond me. It uses 50 blackblood so you can only use it a maximum of 3 times in a row, but doing 3 of those in grit then dropping it is going to make the WAR opener generate even stupider amounts of aggro with the tank shadewalker. I don't know if they'll be able to dark arts it 3 times in a row though, especially since DA is a 3 second CD. It's not like PLD where they just braindead mash their big damage button until they can't anymore.
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>>378708943
I mean DRG is also getting damage buffs in the same line as NIN with increased potencies.
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>>378703961
>Sheltron specifically mentions it blocks the next PHYSICAL attack
I'm not going to get MTG'd on the wordplay here right? Sheltron will work with the magic block, right? Also the fact that Sword Oath is still the most boring buff in the world sucks, but in the end it's whatever.
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>>378709084
Instead of gun mage you're gonna be hot (but not too hot)
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>>378708642
>tanks going to do 0 damage now
>no damage nerfs
Smh Tbh Senpai
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>>378707668
They could have at least given Tri-Bind to SCH too.
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>>378709084
Basically rumble from league of legends.
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So... are SCH better or worse overall?

sure they got the damage cucked but the healing looks even great
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>>378709000
Because they have no idea what they're doing.
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>>378705018
I just wait for the /v/ E3 highlights reels nowadays, unless it looks like something really bad to the point where you just have to be there in the moment
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does SAM really get a 1500 potency self heal every 15 seconds?
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>>378708642
>now
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>>378708212
In StormBlood they do. Most damage buffs were removed and ones left were nerfed hard.

I guess it's their way to slowing down power creep.
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>>378709176
Do you get paid to be this retarded?
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>>378708943
They lose Phlebotomize and nerfed Doom Spike quite a bit but nothing to worry about.
DRG's combo and jumps got buffed significantly.
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>>378709173
But overheating gives you a 20% damage buff

You want to overheat for wf and keep in heated for heated gcds
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>>378709214

still strong for raids but their ability to clear yard trash in dungeons was nerfed into the ground
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>another shitty general thread on /v/
>still not fucking banned
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>>378703961
So why is Sword Oath not a flat 5% increase like the other dps stances? I'm retarded and don't understand how this works
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>>378709214
Broil does amazing damage now, they have a better battle litany only their aoe is now shit
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Balmung erp should stay dead.
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>>378709156
I mean, DRG has never been nerfed since 2.0, DRG must be eternally underpowered
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>>378709334

bump
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>>378709336
Because secretly Yoshi doesnt want PLD to stance dance and encourages them to be the basic tank who actually 'wants to tank.'
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>>378709334
cry about it more fuckboy
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>>378709295
Yes also it reduces damage by 20% because strong independent one man army carry don't need no healer or tank
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>>378704923
>MCH that low

Once again my main is the least played class. Feels good man.
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>>378703864
PLD does as much damage as WAR now, with better mitigation, and is easier to play, so PLD unless you just like the way DRK plays/looks more.
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>>378709334
>discussing new information about a video game is now considered a general on /v/ - video games

Don't you have some pseudo e-celeb bullshit to discuss?
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>>378709295
Only 500 every 15 secs.
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>>378709365
Balmung in general should stay dead
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>Got a better fell cleave
>Blackest night is raw as fuck
>darkside got a massive QoL change and a 5% increase in DPS
>balancing blackblood and MP looks fun

Where's the party brothers? Im fucking happy with DRK.
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So when is Yoshi facing the community?
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How do we save WHM?
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>>378709423
>Mch gets buffs all across the board
>Only job that doesn't have to fuck with dots

Mch mains got it good
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>fundamentally break the game
>veterans quit out of disgust
>newfags buy leveling potions and quit one month later due to boredom
>Yoshida is finally kicked out of SE
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>>378709481
It doesn't seem to say it removes Third Eye
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>>378709426
>PLD does as much damage as WAR now
Wrong
Even then a war will always be taken because of slashing
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>>378709595
Make confession effect on others increase their damage.
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>>378709423
>mfw playing mch
>nobody plays the class
>after liveletter expect to see more bards and mch
>ONLY see bards and like a handful of other mch

I'm not complaining but its funny observing everything. It is a REALLY fucking tough class to play though and I love it even though I suck at it.
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>>378709494
It should. Except for FemRoes
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>>378709173
Please! I am Ugoff.

>>378709000
>Divine Benison that's just a slighty better but annoying-to-get Stoneskin is lame.
The best part is that Stoneskin is gone entirely.
>hey mang, we got a new ability for you!
>oh?
>we removed standard casting Stoneskin and replaced it with a version on a 15 second cooldown that requires rng to become available
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>>378709535
What's wrong? He said he was dumbing down the jobs a long time ago to appease the shitters. Let's just hope we get better fights.
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>>378709118
You do know the top nin parses are the highest of all melee dps don't you
That's why I'm calling you a know nothing idiot
The average numbers are so low because a bunch of idiots played the job that didn't know how to get the best of it, comparatively drg is easier to optimize so the average numbers are higher
Now you take that potential, buff it more, let it keep its utility which means your party can replace their own enmity cross role skills with other useful stuff and you end up with a job that's not only doing what it used to do but better but also lets the party as a whole expand its tool kit
But you should play drg anyway, clearly something as simple as nin is over your head
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>>378709535
He doesn't have to when they repeatedly stated that all this is subject to change. I'm 100% sure benison and plenary indulgence is going to be changed just because it's so out of line in terms of cost and usefulness compared to what pretty much every other job got. I dont' play whm so I don't care but these abilities are hilariously bad rn
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>>378709173
>>378709213
I guess thats good? I'm pretty retarded so I'm just going to cherry pick what people say is good about the class and use it form my own stupid opinions. It's probably fine, as long as they didn't make it attack 30% slower for a whole 20% damage boost :^).
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I was watching MrH for some gameplay and noticed that the hotbars felt way emptier than now. Like 18 skills or so at most jobs. Did they really trim that much?
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>>378709680
forgot face
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>>378709595
Getting lilies off all healing not just Cure I/II would be a start.
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>>378709732
>play AST, SCH, BRD and BLM
>didn't get dumbed down at all
loving every laugh

>but muh dots
That shit was already braindead on SCH before.
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>>378709530
I'll miss scourge, it was a cool animation. Also our nut shot and reprisal don't do any damage(which I hope is a fucking typo). Now reprisal's cool animation is there for fucking nothing.
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Chained Stratagem was SCH's only saving grace.
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>>378709657
Sorry, I meant to say it does as much damage as DRK now.

Actually ,it might be higher since it seems like they can use holy 5 or 6 times, compared to DRK only using tis treason 3 or 4 times in the opener and needing to space a combo between those. It depends on how often DRK can use treason in between the CDs of Requiescat
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>>378709535
Facing the community about them being a bunch of bitchy retards who autistically care about minmaxing raid effcience when it doesn't actually matter? Never, they wouldn't be able to handle it.
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I want to pluck a WHM's lillies!
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>>378709602
>Only job that doesn't have to fuck with dots
Lead shot is fucking gone? This is ok_ news man.
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>>378709946
Scourge is gone now? What the fuck.
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>>378709657
>Even then a war will always be taken because of slashing
Nope! not when NIN and SAM exist
If DRK and PLD are better than WAR dps, even just by a hair
INTO THE KEKSHED WARS WILL GO
Seriously though the tanks look balanced this time around.
It will all come down to preference if anything
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https://www.bluegartr.com/threads/130109-Yoshida-on-Stormblood-Jobs-Roles-and-PvP-Famitsu-Interview-Translation?p=6907208#post6907208

Famitsu interview translated.
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>>378710023
I want to insert my penis into a vagina!
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>>378709602
RDM has no dots
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>>378709918
>No stance dancing
>less DoTs to manage
>Dont have to worry about movement or MP management as Bard at all now
>BLM has no risk of losing Enochian now
>Not dumbed down
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>>378708970

Just to shit on you fags

PLD/DRK meta incoming
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>>378710143
I don't comprehend. Can you be a little more blunt?
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Will Shire gear be the next Ironworks for gearing new 60s?
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>>378710068
Yep, WAR also lost their dot.
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>>378709680
It's not that hard to play though, it's got a higher floor to get up to but overall it plays very pragmatically and everything lines up so nicely.
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>>378709820
I mean when is he next making public comments. Isn't there something coming up soon?
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>>378710121
>Nope! not when NIN and SAM exist
>making a dps waste their damage cool downs to do less dps when a war will apply the slashing
Making the nin or sam apply slashing will be a dps loss. War isn't going anywhere unless nin and sam suck in sb
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>Larryzaur has a comment on every XIV video with the new info
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>>378710237
Yes
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>>378710284
live letter at e3
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>>378710323
Literally who and why should I care?
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>>378710284
E3
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Random question, does buying the game get you a free month of time?
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Fuck you yoshi p
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>>378710292
>sam apply slashing will be a dps loss
I thought it was just part of their rotation, or is that pvp only like nin
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>>378710292
>Making the nin or sam apply slashing will be a dps loss
>he doesn't know
NIN and SAM slashing debuff are part of their rotation, its no longer optional not to use even if you have a WAR in the group
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>>378710414
That guy is larry and he's been shilling himself constantly in every single thread for days
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>>378710171
>pressing a flipswitch is so complex
And I'm speaking as a stance dancer. That shit is fucking easy

>less DoTs to manage
wow put this dot up and forget about it until it needs to be refreshed, so engaging

They got rid of all these shit braindead skills and gave me more utility. I'm grateful for that.

>Don't have to worry about movement
There was never a point in time where you had to worry about movement because even with WM you get BL and SS procs out of the ass and a shitton of oGCD abilities that don't have any cast time

>or MP management
Foes still exists

I hope you aren't suggesting that BRD actually required thought to play before when they now actually have to deal with variable procs and song rotations.

>BLM has no risk of losing Enochian now
You immediately lose enochian upon dropping AF/UI. Prior to that, you had a buffer that's Enochian's timer itself
Umbral Hearts are new shit for me to play with
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>>378710504
If you buy the new version that has the 2 additional expansions it does. It's like 60 dollars for both expansions and 1 month free time.
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>>378710504
yes
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>SAM gapcloser and leapback skills only have a 10s cooldown
>DRG jump is 30s and their leapback is 3 mins

It's not fair
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>>378710292
The slash debuff is part of SAM opener and is literally needed to unzip their 720(150%) 1000 fold steel.
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>>378708679
I used it while in the open world, I don't mind they moved the functionality, but why keep it at all if it doesn't stun?
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>>378710449
>>378710381
Just before early access. Two more weeks of handwringing should be a great branding exercise.
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>>378706632
the marketing for sb has been so weird
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>>378705576
No? WHM has the best single target DPS but the issue is MP and nobody wanting them
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>>378710323
Gotta get them subscribers.
I'm actually surprised that even him got a chance to play SB at media tour. If I was a NEET I would waste some time doing some XIV-related shit on youtube, apparently people are starved for community-made content.
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>>378709918
>That shit was already braindead on SCH before.
Yeah, 10 seconds without healing to set up your dots is just as braindead as 5 (half).
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>>378703896
>TFW WHM
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>>378710652
So does buying just the expansion not get you anything?
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Do we have any clue at the moment on what to expect for SB's launch endgame content? Is it likely going to repeat HW's deal of "2 weeks of story to not make people feel rushed" mixed with more stalled releases, or have they stated they have something lined up for 4.0 to keep people subbed past a month that doesn't involve reaching a new level cap?

>>378710323
He was a nobody a month ago, and pulling an Etika to hold onto the tiny bit of relevance he has.
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>>378710758
It gets you an expansion.
But no game time.
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>>378710656
They also get a 300 potency ranged combo after backstepping.
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>>378704137
Unironically whm because I'm a shit healer that panic heals
Thin air holy spam is probably going to be cool too
Was thinking about going through SB as bard but removing cast times from it makes me eh
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>>378703896
>solo healing content
Here's my face when white mage
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>>378710740
Not by a long shot. The only times WHM can catch up in DPS is AOE because Holy, Assize, and Aero III pump out hard damage on a group.
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>>378710746
>set up your dots
>do it in a sequence
>do it in a reverse sequence later
Do you also consider changing your socks an accomplishment?
With this dumb shit gone, maybe you'll have more utility that actually do something meaningful.
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>>378710849
Stop posting this ugly lala in every thread
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>>378710795
Are you sure? Then why is it $40 instead of something reasonable like $20 when we already have to pay a monthly sub?
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>>378710795
That sucks. Thanks senpai
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>>378710758
Buying Stormblood right now gives you early access and preorder bonuses. It also includes Heavensward for free if you don't own it already, but you must wait until June 16th to access all of that.
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>>378704137
RDM to 70
If it feels shit, I'll just quit because SMN. my old main, will feel like shit too.
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>>378710959
Summoning Bahamut won't feel like shit, your DPS will just be shit
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>>378710898
This is an 18+ website, bait-kun.
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>>378709334
Where are you when there's another shitty FE Heroes, Nepshit, Senran Kagura, and various other hourly threads posted?

Faggot
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>>378710893
Please develop some good taste.
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What's the best way to level classes?
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>>378710898
I don't mean to be rude but is this your first mmo? This has always been standard practice. In wow or other games the expansion would even be $60 with no free game time. It's just the system we are use to.
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>>378710512
I do like not having to use swiftcast on that anymore.
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>>378710891
No more like everything is easy, so by your logic we should just remove everything from the game.
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>>378711027
Don't forget the stealth ERP threads that don't get deleted or the not ecchi image dump threads. Let alone the countless console war threads.
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>>378711003
OH BOY BAHAMUT HOW HYP-

>it's gone

Back to Ruin spam for another 2 minutes
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>>378711048
Palace of the dead if its dps
Dungeons if tank or healer
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>>378711118
You get to cast fucking Ahk Morn, TWICE
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>>378704137
Samurai Samurai Samurai
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My favorite part of MMO expansions is people flipping their shit like they know 100% how things are going to play
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>>378711153
So the fun of the job is 2 skills every 2 minutes?
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>>378704295
>Fire IV potency down to 260
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>>378704137
Mch to 70 via , then either rdm or sam to 70 via pvp. If mch is bad I will stab a bitch.
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>>378711121
Which levels of PotD, though?
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>>378711067
>60 second cd
>last 30 seconds so now you have time shadowflare isn't active
>could get a faggot tank who tanks the mob away from your shadowflare
It's worse
Also
>using swiftcast for shadowflare instead of using it for an extra ruin III in dwt
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How are you supposed to beat potd41-50 without a healer? Just failed with 2 tanks and got to like 30%.
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>>378711153
Who cares
Once is enough, they could've given it something else
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>>378711264
by not being shit
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>>378711072
No, by my logic the easy redundant shit should be condensed to MAKE ROOM for more meaningful shit, just like what happened to AST. They lost a shitty meme Heavy skill nobody uses and a negligible dot in exchange for even more cards and Assize.
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Now that we agree on the expansion, which patch will FFXIV finally go F2P?

My guess is 4.2.
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>>378711224
You didn't lose painflare, fester, DWT or deathflare Still fun to be had there.
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>>378711264
Dodge the AE's its really easy. I've beaten it more without a healer than I have with one.
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>>378710656
Leap skill also gives +200 potency to SAM's ranged attack, letting him keep the DPS up while avoiding AoEs. YoshiP's idea of "highest personal DPS" is too crazy for the game's current standards.
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>>378711261
Enjoy that Flaming Arrow experience faggots
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Wait, I haven't kept up with this game for a little while, so is PLD actually fun to play now or what?
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>>378711347
>ff14
>one of the most succesful mmos ont he market
>f2p
NICE TRY BR FAG, we staying p2p. If it goes f2p I'll quit.
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>>378711224
>>378711293
To each their own I suppose, but I'd feeling like a God having that assmassive summon chilling behind me, and then blasting the boss with that fuckhuge attack
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>>378711347
It's never going F2P man. FFXI is 15 years old and it's still sub only.
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>>378711372
Fester got nerfed and oh boy use the same rotation I used for two years until bahamut what fun
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>>378711315
Tell that to 3 puggers who've never played dungeons in their lives.
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>>378711486
You're one to talk
SCH is still using the same basic shit from 4 years ago
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>>378711429
I don't know about fun but it's DPS is going to go way up and it has an actual AoE to use now, and can block magic.
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>>378711372
>Painflare
>Tribind
Why not prune this instead of the basic rotation?
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Red Mage needs to recover like 10% of their max HP upon every physical they execute.

Lucid Dream is not good enough. You have to be play perfectly to stay MP neutral. God forbid if you die or actually want to raise someone.

I feel like they will realize their stupid mistake and correct it in 4.1 or 4.2. AST was shit at recovering MP too at the start of 3.0.
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>what if we made a dps good at everything
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>AST has better and cheaper heals than WHM
LMAOOOOOO
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>>378709334
>STOP TALKING ABOUT GAMES THAT AREN'T MADE BY BLIZZARD OR NINTENDO
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So, since I'm going to upgrade to the full game when Stormblood comes out, what should I choose as my main story class? Black Mage, Ninja, Dragoon, or Bard. When I get to Ishgard, I might swap out to Astrologian or Black Knight
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why the fucf is fire iv potency going down
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>>378711574
*MP not HP
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>>378711372
Aetherflow abilities can no longer be used during DWT. I mean sure, they're there, but you can't benefit them from the damage boost anymore. You're just meant to reapply your two DoTs and then be a Ruin whore before Deathflaring.
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>>378708642
I am de captin nowe.
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>>378711596
What were they thinking? WHM is now based entirely around crutch heals, and can only make the most of their resource by babying people with cures all day. I mean sure it does play like a healer, but it doesn't feel much different from 3.0 at all, if not worse.
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>>378711429
Not yet, wait for stormblood friend
>can block magic
>can't be interrupted (this same trait cuts all mp costs in half)
>RA combos from riot blade
>sick requiescat (magic up 20%) into Holy spirit burst
>actual aoe
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>>378711660
the idea is you can get more cast out of it so reduce the potency. With shit like triple cast being added and able to keep enochian up easier.

It's stupid but their logic.
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>>378711429
Not now, but in two weeks PLD will get tons of very nice changes and new abilities.
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>>378710959
I'm with you there SMN got nerfed in to the fucking ground it's disgusting. If RDM or my back up MCH doesn't feel fun I am unsubbing.
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>>378711660
Fire phase is longer due to Umbral Heart + Foul I'd imagine.
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>>378711770
fuck this im switching to sam on arrival this ss meme is fucking gay
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>>378711770
well, it's true. you lose 20 potency but are able to cast it much more often
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>>378709530
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>60 second DoT for SAM

What were they thinking
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>>378711695
DWT does refresh tridisaster now. You have fun casting tri outside DTW without having to always save it for DWT.

Also, using anything but fester during DWT is a dps loss. You should only been using ruin 3. So not much changes there.
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>>378711486
>same rotation
>but with less buttons and thought because lol 30s DOTs and Shadowflare on cooldown
I wish we kept the same rotation. I had nothing against setting up the 3 DOTs, Shadow Flare and then Fester. It was comfy as fuck.
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>>378711628
Answer me you faggots, which class?
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>>378711486
Fester did not get nerfed, the tooltip was translated incorrectly

its 200 potency per dot so 400
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>>378711952
Suck my dick, bitch. Fuck you.
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>>378711898
good, I want to personally deal the damage not refresh a gay dot over and over
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So explain POTD to me. If I wanted to go 50-60 on SAM I play to floor 60 and just run 50-60 over and over? Right?
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>>378711952

goldsmith
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>>378711898
SAM is all about amazing raw potency, the drawback is that they have no utility and are demanding to play efficiently.
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>>378711861
But not really that much more, I was able to keep up enochian 24/7 in most boss fights. Additionally its a bit more than just 20 potency, people aren't accounting for the fact thats its clsoer to 100 potency we are losing after adding the fire 3 stacks.
>>378711852
I glad I main pld and blm so I at least had a good fallback. But our aoe potential as a whole should be bosoted at lvl 70, however we suck at aoe at any dungeon below 70 now. It's a huge fall off.
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>>378711952
White mage, nigger.
>>
We are now the hottest dps job.
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>>378711952
Try them all, play the one you like.
Ninja is cool.
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>>378711486
If you watch the videos, fester wasn't nerfed. It still does more damage than painflare.

The tool tip of it being 100 per dot is wrong.
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>>378711802
>Expecting to keep your crazy ass aoe damage after other classes got a aoe nerf.
SMN truly are the Americans of FFXIV always screaming about their 1st world problems.
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>>378711898
I honestly can't see SAM not getting tweaked slightly between now and EA.
The PPS is fucking ridiculous.
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>>378711921
I am with you I had so much fun with this rotation now I don't want to even touch the class.
Bahamut every two minutes can't make up for our nerfs
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>>378711429
no the core gameplay is still dog shit, its just /vg/ shitters pretending their expansion of same old same old is somehow new and exciting

im gonna play expansion but then move the fuck on after i blow through the content in a week, like every one else
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>>378711997
It's not like you can't do the higher ones too. You may find 51 forms parties faster.
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>>378711582
SAM's only drawback is having no utility other than the slashing debuff 2 other jobs have already.
It might not be MNK levels of bad but at some point it will suffer the same fate. Maybe.
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>>378711574
I can absolutely forsee them adding MP recovery via their enhanced melee strikes in 4.1 or 4.2. Just watching MrHappy play he was draining MP very quickly. He wasn't playing perfectly but still
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Is there any to turn off the character voice without killing audio for cutscenes.
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>>378712015
but how many fire IVs could you dish out in an astral fire phase before
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>>378712046
>anything not SAM
>hot
lmao at your life
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>>378711997
>pick an empty save file
>choose matched party
>choose floor 50
>clear it
>erase save file
>repeat
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>>378712084
>every other class gets 20 - 40 potency nerfs for aoe
>SMN gets 80% aoe nerfs
Fuck off we were butchered and now this class lost the only reason enyone took them for raids
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>>378712198
>being this retarded

Lmao at your life
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>>378712272
You weren't taken to creator regardless so why you whining
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>>378712169
Realstically? Probably around 5 to 6. The thing is we still have to go blizzard form for the mana. That doesn't change. That or we have to cast a shitter fire 1 to refresh our fire stacks. I really don't see us gaining that much total dmg aside from triple cast.
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>>378712272
Nobody took summoner into raids for their aoe damage. AOE damage is very rarely required.
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>>378712169
quality>quantity

really pissed yoship is fucking with potency
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>>378712272
That's because every one else already had their AoE nerfed moving into 3.0.
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>>378712360
actually, it changed a little. blizzard IV cuts the mana cost for 3 fire spells so you can squeeze in more fire IVs after returning from umbral ice
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Balmung needs more ERP. Gimme more dicking, daddy.
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>>378706170
>WAR
>Allowed in literally any party

PLD/DRK is the optimal combo for every party by a wide margin.

Say hello to the cuckshed
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>>378712423
Whine more, your big dick numbers are still going to be enormous with AF3 and umbral hearts
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>>378712012
It doesn't seem that demanding.
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>>378712272
>Aoe damage
>For raids
You clearly don't raid.
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>no information about crafting and gathering
Yoship pls
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>>378712548
>>378712548
>>378712548
>>378712548
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>>378712643
>a2s
>a9s
>a12s where smn deathflaring the adds make them die super fucking fast
Only reason our class was taken otherwise people just did the nin,mch and drg meta
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>>378711574
Yeah. Calculating how much MP they'll spend, it would be about 4680 MP from opener to finisher. They can do this up to 3 times before they lose MP, not counting MP ticks and Lucid Dream.
Lucid Dream is probably not enough and RDM would suffer MP issues in longer fights that's for sure.
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>>378712615
not him, but it has combos out of the ass, gauge and a ton of ogcd skills. it'll most likely be the shitter check when a SAM immediately goes for midare
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>>378712543
>PLD can shield the DRK with intervention
>DRK can shield the PLD with Black night or shield themselves
>both gained big dick DPS options

Are WARs even trying?
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>>378712758
>A9S

Yeah, no. BLM was much, much better utilized there over SMN. Adds die to fast for DOTs to be worth a shit, lol.
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>start dungeon
>Paladin
>Red Mage
>Monk
>Astrologian

Congratulations. It is now impossible for anybody to die.
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>>378706158
>skill prune

literally where
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>>378703896
>tfw I play all 3 tanks
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