https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvD 8NZN9Zsg How is it poss

Sonic Team has nothing to do with it so that's why it's good

>>378696348
This.

Sonic Team needs to be nuked into oblivion.

>>378696348
Fpbp

>>378696348
>Sonic Boom

explain

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>>378696496
>We have lived long ago to see literal Sonic fans make a better Sonic game than the actual fucking Sonic Team

How did they fuck up so bad?

>>378695907
See now you're making me nervous. Everything is been so perfect up to this point and now I'm worried about something being completely f'ed up by the time I get my hands on it.

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>>378696348

THE BEST TIMELINE COMES WITH CONSEQUENCES

>>378696919
its really not that far-fetched
there are some incredibly talented people out there

Not to get off topic,
there is a Mega Man 4 romhack that is easily better than any Mega Man game made in the last 20 years called Rock Man 4 Minus Infinity.

AM2R is the solid 2d Metroid game fans have been begging for but Nintendo refuses to make.

Point is, fans can and will make amazing shit.

>>378696828
Explain why literally the ONLY 2 good 3D Sonic games Sonic Team has made are Colors and Generations?

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>>378697601
>Sega gives their talented fans jobs
>Nintendo shuts down all their talented fans
20+ years later and Sega does what Nintendont

Why can't they make the equivalent of New Super Mario Bros, but for Sonic the Hedgehog? You know, high-poly 3D graphics with 2D gameplay?

>>378696919
>How did they fuck up so bad?
Sonic Team lacks passion for the franchise, which was confirmed by an ex-Sega employee back a little before Sonic Unleashed was revealed and is demonstrated by Sonic Team always trying to take the games in some new direction every few titles (e.g. Lost World).

The main developers behind Mania, as well as one of the main animators for the new trailer's animated bits, have a lot of passion for the franchise and have been a part of the fan community for years. They care a lot about Sonic and it shows.

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>>378698036
You do know that's literally half of Sonic Generations right?

>>378698036
Because Mania is being purposefully stylized as a "lost" Sega Saturn game. The developers will likely get a larger budget for the eventual sequel and will be able to accomplish more from a presentation standpoint.

>>378697601
Megaman Unlimited is better than minus infinity

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>>378698036
>>378698264
>>378698426
Not only that, but this as well.

Really didn't fucking work.

>>378698036
They tried that with Sonic 4 and no one at Sega remembers how to make a Sonic game. Even Generations has a ridiculously fast spin dash and Forces has already shown that classic Sonic doesn't even pop up when jumping on a badnik. Go watch that footage of Green Hill in Forces with that in mind and proceed to go crazy every time Sonic doesn't seem to be effected by enemies at all when killing them.

>>378698543
Episode 2 looked okay. Still wasn't very impressive, though.

ON A SUNDAY RIDING MY BIKE

>>378695907
I'd kill to see some of the modern characters in this style.

>>378699050
Then go watch the opening for Sonic Riders.

>>378695907
It was made by a web comic artist, turned pro artist, who actually gets to work on archie sonics frequently, who genuinely just loves fucking sonic.

>>378698913
I NOTICE, I NOTICE

>>378697601
>Rock Man 4 Minus Infinity

I keep hearing this but from what I've played it's garbage. Has some shit tier level design

Unlimited is the superior fangame, even if the stages are a touch too long

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>there will never be a Sonic cartoon with this art style and animation

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>>378698010
delete this

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>>378695907
I unironically shed a tear, what an amazing trailer.

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>>378698036
>3D graphics

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>>378696828
I still don't know what the fuck Sega were thinking when they loaned out Sonic to BigRedButton. I mean, let's ignore the unnecessary redesigns for a second. Let's even ignore the fact that they had to retool the game at the last minute due to it's Wii U exclusivity (and CryEngine problems to boot).

BigRedButton themselves were a team comprised of complete garbage. The director of the game had never properly directed a game before (he had only done art direction, not overall direction), the lead programmer was an ex-Activision drone who had only worked on trash like Shrek spinoff games, the writers and artists are literal who's, and they even got Chris Senn back on board as a designer, the same guy who was largely in charge of the collosal development fuck-up that we know as Sonic X-Treme - and let's take off the rose-tinted glasses folks, X-Treme was always going to be shit, even if the development went smoother. The only guy on the Boom team that's kind of redeemable is Richard Jacques the musician, and even he's well past his prime now (compare Sonic R's soundtrack to the abominable Sonic Chronicles on the DS).

Sonic Team are shit, but Boom as a project really gets my noggin joggin. It's like they assembled an Avengers-style team of people who should never, ever be let near the Sonic IP.

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>>378696348
I agree with you, but here's also a game that Sonic Team had nothing to do with.

>>378701830
fuck off jojobrony

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>>378695907
It's being made by people who care about the series and know what the fuck they're doing for once.

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>>378698010
Fucking savage.

This should have been Sonic 4.

>>378698036
>>378698426
If the devs get a larger budget for the sequel, I want to see classic Sonic gameplay with 2D graphics like in this trailers' animation. My dick would explode.

>>378701991
epic retort

>>378701989
What was wrong with that game other than the music?

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That brought a tear to my eye, fuck Sonic Team really had no idea what they've been doing all this time. THIS is classic Sonic.

Is this game FPS capped? Can I enjoy buttery visuals at 120hz? Or is 60fps the 'cap'?

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>you lived long enough to see Classic Sonic return to his glory days

My friend is a huge sonic fan but he hates Sonic Mania.
Btw his favorite sonic game is 06.

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>>378702857
>tfw there are people who died before they got to see Classic sonic return to his former glory

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>>378696919

The problem with Sonic Team is that they're Japanese and most of Sonic's fanbase is western. Chances are that they literally don't know (or care) why stuff like Sonic Twitter, the Boom cartoon, the last decade of the comics, and Mania (i.e. shit made by people who are actually Sonic savvy) resonate well with fans while Lost World and Sonic 4 doesn't.

>>378702816
If it's anything like Taxman's Sonic CD remaster (which it should be, as it's based on the same code) then it's locked at 60. Which is a shame, the Mania team are pretty autistic about little details and technical features but apparently they draw the line at frametism. Don't know why that is the case

>>378702440
It was mediocre at best

>>378702974
is his name premydearmy

>>378698036
>high-poly 3D graphics with 2D gameplay?

Because that's almost always fucking ugly and and inferior to decent sprites with very, very few notable exceptions

>>378702974
>My friend
>Hates Mania
>Loves 06
I hate to break it to you but you're not his friend, you're his carer.

>>378698010
>Sega does what Nintendon't
Like drop out of the console business and drop Bayo right?

>>378695907
>Even the animation is top notch and captures the Sonic CD/OVA art style so flawlessly
Hold on anon, It's mostly to grab some Nostalgia.

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This is still by far my most hyped game of the year so far, but rewatching the trailer I gotta say it bothers me how beautiful the new zones look and then you see how boring Flying Battery and Green Hill Act 1 look visually in comparison. But then again who hasn't complained about the redone zones at this point.

>Fan makes a true Sonic 4
>Sonic Team opens up the gates to autism hell

Sounds about right

>>378698010
Sega fucks over a ton of fan content, just not in regards to sonic.

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>>378703484

And it's working

And is also genuinely the best Sonic has looked, nostalgia grab or not. While I don't care for CD as a game, it easily has my favorite Sonic design

>>378703513
I hope they amp up flying battery big time in act 2 just like they did green hill

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>>378703484
The game itself is gonna have cutscenes like this.

>>378703513
At least GH act 2 looks fantastic.

>>378696496
>Sonic Team needs to be nuked into oblivion.
Not when we JUST got a Puyo game in the West

What do you think we'll get from Sonic 2 and 3?

It'll probably be Chemical Plant, though I'd prefer Oil Ocean

Generations broke my heart by not having Hydrocity, so please please please Mania

>>378703517
>Fan
s, see: >>378702013

>>378703627
That's what I'm hoping as well. I really want to see some new shit outside of the trash compactor thing.

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>>378703615
>>378703669
Yeah He's awesome

I'm wondering if they planned some multiplayer features in Mania. Like a Coop with Sonic & Tails/Knuckles (as usual)

Sonic on TV and Tails on Switch screen for example

>>378701830
Well fucking said anon. Boom is a fucking disaster. I can't tell who's more dumb; the higher-ups at Sega or Sonic Team who let Boom happen, or the fucking useless piece of shit idiots at BigRedButton who actually made that garbage. The show is fucking terrible too. God that piece of shit spin-off has no redeemable qualities whatsoever.

>>378703741
>2
Aquatic Ruin, Hill Top, or Mystic Cave
Chemical Plant is good but I've seen enough of it
>3
Ice Cap or Hydrocity for sure

>>378703627
My educated guess is that each classic zone is intentionally structured in such a way that the first act is quite traditional (but still chock full of new features and routes) and the second act is where it really deviates. Similarly, the first act of each rehash zone has a new twist on the zones original boss (see: GHZ Act 1, and the trash compactor mini-boss of FBZ) while the act 2 has something brand new that plays on the tropes of the zone.

Do we know if there's a 'Tails following Sonic' mode? Because that seems a little too iconic to not include

>>378703856

>Sonic on TV and Tails on Switch screen for example

that's not how it works

>>378703856
Classic co-op and competition mode is confirmed.

>>378703925
There is.

>>378703925
Yes, we've seen that for a while now. It's being marketed as a "1.5 Player" feature.

>>378703925
There is, they show it off somewhere in this video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YW_-myzFUkg

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>>378703925
It's there, alongside Knuckles exclusive paths.

>>378703968
I mean in previous games Player 2 can use Tails but he can get out of screen considering Sonic's actions.

with the splitscreen, Tails can also track his own movements.

>Breath of the Wild
>Yakuza 0
>Nier
>Shovel Knight
>Bomberman
>Puyo
>Fucking Blaster Master 0
>And now Sonic Mania

It's been a good fucking year

>>378704147
He's saying you don't really know how the Switch works. You can't use the Switch screen and TV screen at the same time.

>>378695907
>tfw watching Sonic's arms
Moms Spaghetti

>>378704147

He means the Switch can't do that you dingy

I want it.

https://www.candb.com/en/artwork/2076/sonic-the-hedgehog-25th-anniversary-art-book-collector-s-edition-sega.html

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>>378703741
Based on the teams descriptions of the games length, the fact that we're getting "more old zones than new", and the fact that there looks to be 5 Hard-Boiled Heavies (which we know each align to a new zone), I'm guessing there's 7 old zones and 5 new zones, and then a single-act zone at the end a la Sonic 2's Death Egg.

What I'm getting at, is that the classics aren't necessarily limited to one zone each. We know S3 and SK are each getting a separate zone instead of being treated like a singular game, but I'd also wager that Sonic 1 and Sonic 2 get 2 zones each instead of 1. That's my guess, anyway. As for what's likely? I'd say Hydrocity is basically confirmed. Angel Island treads on the toes of the green zone trope, Hydrocity is the best water zone by far, and pretty much all of the other Sonic 3 zones are tied up in legal issues due to the music.

I'm just pissed there won't be any way to play this on my pvm-20m2mdu. It was made for this

>>378704245
Mario Odyssey and Crash as well.

This year has been good to me.

I'm also excited for Forces.

>>378704328
>>378704362
>tfw played Wii U & Switch
>forgot this about the switch
my b

Is there a Switch pack with Mania inc?

>>378704245
Shovel Knight came out years ago

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That trailer did something to me /v/. It made me feel warm inside. I thought I was dead inside and couldn't feel joy anymore but that trailer made me feel like I was 7 years old again and when I was happy playing Sonic all day. I didn't think nostalgia could be so powerful

I'm really excited for sonic mania. Dunno about forces. It looks so much like generations.

>>378696919
What do you guys think of Sonic Megamix? For me it's the best fan-made game and one of the best 2d sonic games. The level design is just perfect.

>>378704604
He probably means the Specter Knight campaign they added this year.

>>378704604

I obviously meant specter of torment you silly billy

>>378704604
He's talking Specter of Torment and King Knight's campaign.

>>378703669
Sonic's classic design is actually more suited towards modern sensibilities than his modern design, which despite revisions to make it cuter, still looks stuck in the 90's.

>>378695907
>>378704654
>/v/ hype as fuck for Mania
>Mania available on PC
>Most people will pirate it
>they will rush it in 1 Day
>"meh to easy, hold right to win"
>"Sonic Mania? More like Classic Sonic the Movie"
just

>>378703518
The last notable one was that Streets of Rage fan game and that was several years ago. And something tells me Japan was behind that one because it's pretty ass backwards.

So I'm going to call you out for talking out your ass, because if they were fucking over a ton of fan content, that PSO2 fan translation would long be dead.

I already preordered it. August can't get here faster.

>>378695907
I preordered the collectors edition this morning. first time I preordered something in years. last game was bioshock 2

>>378703881
>implying the joke on the cartoon with that autist fan isn't the reason Boom is a valid project

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>Those elevator buttons
>1
>2
>3
>K
>M
I CANNOT WAIT ANY LONGER.

>>378705201
>Sonic 4's been skipped over
>Mania is the real Sonic 4

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>>378704245
I'd subtract bomberman since it seems ok at best and really there have been better ones, but yeah been a good year for games.

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>>378705201
>No CD button despite Stardust Speedway Past being shown in the trailer
goddamnit why does everyone forget about CD

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>>378695907
>mfw the nipples the enchilada guy animated this
everything is right where it should be

>>378705385
Because it was on the Sega CD, which no one with a brain bought.

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>>378705656
>he forgot about the 2011 rerelease and the game being on the Mega Gems Collection
Nigga, it looks like you are the one without a brain

>>378705286
Bomverman R is a fucking blast, pun or no, it IS fun as fuck and it is a proper Bomberman!

>>378703741
Not entirely sure what we WILL get but I want Mystic Cave+Hidden Palace and Hydrocity.

>>378705385
Because an elevator with
>1
>CD
>2
>3
>K
>M
Would look fucking jarring. At least the way it is now, 1-3 isn't interrupted.

>>378696348
Why is it that Sonic Team inevitably fucks up everything they do?
They even fuck up Puyo Puyo.

>>378705836
Hydrocity is definitely gonna be the Sonic 3 zone. Mystic Cave would be cool, but I keep hearing that Aquatic Ruin might be the Sonic 2 zone.

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>>378705201
>no 4
AS
IT
FUCKING
SHOULD
BE

>>378702013
>Stealth

>"Muh Robotnik boxes everywhere!"

>>378698036
because sonic fans aren't mario fans believe it or not.

>>378705819
Calm down lad I never said it wasn't a proper Bomberman. I've played it and it was decently fun though it was around release and online was awful.
>>378705958
But people love the Fever-verse. Though you aren't wrong since everyone shits on 7.

>>378705651
With the help from his wife, Kinuko.

>>378706042
>But people love the Fever-verse.
That's why I said "eventually", anon. They haven't revisited ANY of the Fever-verse's plot since the complete fucking travesty that was 7, and they still have that awful 24 character limit in place to boot.

>>378706006
I don't think we've seen a single one so far.

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>tfw next Sonic after Mania is pic related with Classic & Mania style

>>378704896
Nah, people are pre-ordering. PS4 and special edition Switch for me.

https://strawpoll.com/z9fzs9g

>>378705809
>compilation way past Sonic's prime
>rerelease that no one but fans of CD cared about
Shitpost someone else, faggot.

>>378706227
The comic's dead though. Ergo, the characters from it are dead.

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>>378706209
>Accord, Popoi and Yu and Rei are in PPT but unplayable
>Every jap plays Jay and Elle

>>378695907
>not coming to the 3DS

For literally what purpose

>>378706042
Oh, sorry if I came out looking like I was bashing you. This trailer may have gotten me a bit too excited.
I loved Bomberman R and I'm glad it sold well. Hopefully we can have more in the future.

>>378706126
One man can only do so much alone. Still, when I found out it was him I was happy as heck for some reason. I'm really glad he got this one.

>>378706227
Be it with those or not, the next instalment is bound to be a wreck in some way. They always manage to fuck things up sooner or later.

>>378706227
Sega cares nothing about the Freedom Fighters and they were almost gotten rid of when the comic was rebooted a few years ago.

Now they're gone forever. Good riddance.

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>>378706293
>he didn't support Taxman on his first commercial game with Sega
Get the fuck out of here.

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>>378706374
>Ocean Prince isn't playable
>Oshare Bones, Hohow, and basically every other supporting character from Fever/Fever 2 are gone
>Fever 2's really nice method of doing story scenes has been replaced with the lame as fuck VN-style portraits ever since 15th
https://youtu.be/w-HygM3n9WY?t=37s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hk7q5A5chLo
Fucking Sonic Team.

>>378706592
But I preordered Mania when it was first revealed. The collector's edition, no less.

>>378706502
>One man can only do so much alone.
He did most of it apparently, I just mentioned it because it feels kinda bizarre that the lead animator for Skullgirls was also involved with this.

>>378706513
>Good riddance.
I know, right? The Archie characters are awful.

>>378698036

They have done that MANY times. See every handheld Sonic game in the past 10 years, Sonic 4, and parts of Sonic Generations, Sonic Forces and Sonic Colours.

None of them have had fun 2D gameplay. 2D Sonic doesn't work with 3D models. Keep 2D and 3D separate and with equally many movement dimensions as graphical dimensions.

>>378706687
I'm specifically talking about his CD remake, in extension the Sonic 1 and 2 ones as well.

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>>378703856
>Sonic on TV and Tails on Switch screen for example
You're a dumb ass. Like this is so dumb I feel compelled to tell you how the Switch works.

So I'm going to.

The actual Nintendo Switch device is the tablet. The dock only houses a device that converts USB3 to HDMI Out. The dock without the tablet inside is little more than a paperweight. This is inverse to the Wii U, where the stationary device transmitted images to the tablet.

The Switch's method is vastly superior for what should be obvious reasons but just in case it's not let me tell you why also.

The Wii U's tablet needed to be within range of the system itself lest it would lose connection and you could no longer play games on the tablet. The Switch's tablet on the other hand is the system itself, so playing it portably isn't tethered to a stationary device and isn't at the mercy of a wireless connection.

>>378698604
What the fuck? This looks horrible.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1wYD5b4VUw

>>378706841
I wouldn't consider ports his own games.

>>378706770
I do think they had the best interpretation of Eggman though.

>>378706905
>port
It's a remake from the ground-up, anon.

>>378703518
I got a cease and desist letter from Sega to stop using my Sonic (Adventure) OC on the internet and now all the pictures of him are usually 404 or just removed all together.

>>378706905
What >>378707014 also I never called them his own games.

>>378707012
Which one? They had like 3 over the course of the comic.
The first and last are both good answers.

>>378706419
Switch is a better console with more life.

And it'd be pirated to hell and back on 3DS with how easy it is to pirate on there

>>378707014
And? I don't consider the Crash remakes to be a VV game. They didn't design the art or the levels.

>>378707149
>And it'd be pirated to hell and back on 3DS with how easy it is to pirate on there

I know, but it'd just be so perfect for it. It would remind me of playing Sonic Advance when I was younger.

>>378697601
Is there anywhere to download AM2R still?

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>>378707128
Last. Honestly the only reason I was still interested in Archie Sonic was Eggman and his team of villains there at the end.

Well that and the Classic Sonic 3 part mini series that was cut short. At least that Mania trailer had him doing animations.

>>378703518
>ton of fan content
List all of it, better yet list some recent examples.

>>378700448
You're not the only one with that opinion.

I agree, the Willy stages are goddamn long, but they're quite an interesting challenge; and the normal stages are cool as fuck.

>>378706756
Ok, that's news to me, but maybe it's for the best, the guy is also pretty great. It's nice that it turned out so well.

>>378696919
Fans have been doing that for almost a decade. Sonic Team's talent left long ago and any veterans there are way past their prime.

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>>378696919
It's actually funny, some random Brazilian made vastly superior Sonic games on a budget of zero dollars compared to Sonic Team.

Sonic After The Sequel, a free game with level design, creativity, gameplay and soundtrack were all top notch and far better than Sonic 4 or the Sonic Advance series. https://youtu.be/mqnDlf5r8VU

>>378704696
>What do you guys think of Sonic Megamix?
It's dead and never will be finished. Stealth at least said that in the future after he's done with Mania that he'll polish up what's done and release it.

>>378707275
Mania is a nostalgia trip for the OG Genesisfags. Wait 10 more years for your turn, kiddo.

>>378708440
Time Twisted is better than both of those, minus the OST.

>>378708440
>gameplay
did they ever fix the fucking acceleration since their previous game
it was literally unplayable

>>378708552
Sonic Advance was 16 years ago, anon.

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>>378706756
>feels kinda bizarre that the lead animator for Skullgirls was also involved with this
That's Tyson's girlfriend.

Anthony Holden also helped out.

>>378708464
I loved it when it first released/got leaked, but going back to play it now, it's a very messy game.

More a technical marvel they got it running on Sega CD.

>>378708698
>That's Tyson's girlfriend
*wife
They got married recently.

>>378698426
I love the current aesthetics of Mania, but I can understand although not necessarily agree about why other players and critics may want a "better looking" game (which I have the feeling that only translates to wanting it without pixel art), and if that's the case I really hope they do something with the level of polish from something like Rayman Legends/Origins or DK Freeze as the bare minimum; rather than a cheap and boring NSMB or Sonic 4 look.

I'm not alone in wanting to play Forces too, right?

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>>378708637
>Time Twisted
Oh fuck yes, I didn't even realize that released. Kudos anon. I loved Sonic ATS but this looks like it has much higher production values.
>>378708646
I played it last year and didn't encounter any issues, I'm guessing he fixed it but not really sure. But be warned that his new game Spark The Electric Jester is really mediocre, it's basically half Kirby half Sonic, which may sound good on paper but it results were mediocre.

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>>378708763
>it's a very messy game
It's like it was never finished or something, but yeah, it was looking amazing. Hope some of the ideas like the Special Stage will carry over to Mania.

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>>378708846
What a baller.

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>>378695907
>Even the animation is top notch and captures the Sonic CD/OVA art style so flawlessly
Top notch? Yes, Captures Sonic CD art style flawlesly? No, at least not for me.

Call me autistic, or a nostalgic faggot, but there's something about it that just doesn't click like CD's art style.

>>378708971
I think it's great overall, but it does have a retarded story and an even more retarded true ending.

>>378709036
The animation in the Mania trailer is cleaner and doesn't have that smudgy look a lot of 90's anime had.

>>378709036
Probably the fact that it's not cleaned up or colored until the end.

>>378708440
IMO Before/After The Sequel had pretty crap actual gameplay but stellar music. Get Funk Fiction and Falk to work on a bigger project already.

>>378709036
>Call me autistic, or a nostalgic faggot, but there's something about it that just doesn't click like CD's art style.
I think Hesse's design keeps some of Sonic's snark in him, which is pretty clear when you compare >>378695907 and >>378709036. They both look cute, but Hesse's Sonic has a larger smirk, a more smug look, and a bit of a cockier pose.
CD on the other hand makes Sonic look really cute. Even when he's focused or angry, he still looks cute.

>>378706296
They finally killed it?.

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>>378709113
No worries mate, that goes for every Sonic game.

>>378709489
Not really but it's in court hell right now.

>>378709489
Killed it enough as to cancel that Mega Drive tribute mini-series AKA the best thing Archie did in years.

>>378709036
And that's not entirely a bad thing.

Hopefully Mania will help to truly recapture the feel and style of classic Sonic, but after that I hope they head in their own direction and start doing their own thing, so that everything doesn't have to rely in nostalgia pandering all the time.

Imagine if they made his arms blue

>>378709113
>>378709510
For the record I'm talking about Time Twisted here.

>>378709731
eyes green*

>>378709036
You're a autistic nostalgia faggot

>>378709158
>smudgy look a lot of 90's anime had

Fuck you.

>>378709623
If the first Mania sells well enough, which it probably will, when they give the go ahead for a sequel it'll probably be a bit less of a nostalgia game.

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>>378699050

>>378708440
Lakes games always fall flat in the level design department.

Which for a Sonic game, is a pretty big deal.

>>378709113
It was so stupid that it rebounds and becomes hilarious. If it was some generic final boss, nobody would've given a fuck. Galacnik? That's so fucking bizarre that it becomes amusingly memorable.

>>378704462
>and then a single-act zone at the end a la Sonic 2's Death Egg.
Nah, it'll be a full two act final stage a la Sonic 3&K's Death Egg except brand new and without one single or any HBH.

>>378709036
You're right. As good as those designs are, the CD design is still a step above them. I do credit him for NOT trying to emulate the CD design completely.

>>378710634
You didn't even mention the dumbest thing, the gore.

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>>378699050

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>>378709158
I like the smudgy, grainy look of 90s, and older, anime, I think it can help enhance some shows' atmosphere, like Cowboy Bebop and Trigun, especially Trigun. I remember watching Badlands Rumble, and feeling like it wasn't the same without the dusty look of the original that really enhanced the experience, and combined really well with the theme and atmosphere the anime.

Still, I don't think that's the problem, but >>378709449 hits pretty close, it's the small details of the characters, the way they are drawn, and what message about their character's personality they communicate when looked at, that makes all the difference.

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>>378695907
>hands behind his back instead of at his side

Fucking dropped.

>>378709036
>>378711956
>People draw things differently
News at 11.

>>378711956
I love the grainy 90s look as well. It's a pipedream, but I wonder if Mania is actually gonna have animated cutscenes?

>>378712195
What else would this: >>378703669 be?

>>378706227
Except the next Sonic after Mania is Forces.

>>378707319
yes.

>>378712470
Intro video or credits video, like CD had?

>>378712470
A tinge of hope

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IT'S PERFECT

>>378712895
Would still be a cutscene.

>>378712086

Why? CD had it.

>>378712994
By definition, no it wouldn't, as it would not cut into the gameplay.

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>>378701991
>He doesn't enjoy quality manime

Back into the /trash/ for you

>>378713032

No it didn't?

>>378713301
>deeeeeeeeeeh wats da super peel out?????!!

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>>378708637
>>378708971

Time Twisted was a cringy edgelord fanfic with a fucking 12-year old storywriting series of events.
After being resurrected from exploding into pieces and disintegrating into space while Sonic watched,
at the end of the game, before the final boss, Metal Sonic is the one that resurrects him and he does it through magical bullshit mcguffin means, causing lightning to flash and Eggman to re-emerge as Marvel superbeing ripoff Galacnik.
An ending that involves Super Sonic collecting all 7 chaos emeralds and all 7 time stones, then taking on literal actual Eggman Galactus and flying through his face and chest creating big bloody holes.
It's astounding how you can find playthroughs of people not laughing their asses off while doing this because of how funny it is that he wants people to take this seriously.

>>378695907
sonic boom fire and ice is a good game and the TV show is great
so the last good sonic game wasn't that long ago
sonic mania looking like it's going to be good
I still have hopes for sonic Forces
even if there are no god damn reptile options

looks like it was animated in flash 10 years ago

>>378713450
Yeah, I already mentioned that the story's retarded, but the physics and level design are great.

>>378713560
>animated in flash
Literally nothing wrong with that.

>>378713560
You're full of shit.

>>378713689

There's a lot wrong with that.

>>378713772
alright

>>378713857
Oh please, enlighten me.

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>>378706684
Fuck 7. All of its character are shit. I just want a game that's the Madou and Fever casts. No Tetris shitters or Ringo's cumsluts. I'd also like for Sonic Team to go back to the way they did the stories in 15th Anniversary or in Fever.

>>378713970

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DyupP2LxbZI

>>378714073
So no arguments? Nice one, pham.

>>378713560
>>378713689
>>378713857
I have to agree with the latter comment on this one. Granted, I think the Sonic Mania animation is good either way, but a skilled animator can make a flash animation look deceptively like an actual animation by skilled use of art style. The "looks like it was made in flash" comment just means it looks cheap, which is a pitfall many flashes fall into. Art style is key.

>>378714154

Yeah, man.

>>378714209
Cool.

>>378714250

Mhm

Did anyone here preorder the PS4 version? How do you download the free avatar and themes?

>>378714164
>Art style is key.
Or rather good art skills in general, since all Flash is is a tool and not something you press a button and pop here's an animation already done.

I NEED 3D SONIC NOOOOOOOOOOOWWWWWW

>>378696919
>actual Sonic Team
Here's the thing: it's NOT the actual Sonic Team. The ACTUAL FACTUAL Sonic Team died years ago. All of the core members have been long gone and what had replaced them were literal nobodies.

>>378714447

I mean, the shading and all that shit looks like any fucking generic flash you'll see on newgrounds front page right now, and that's not a good thing.

>>378697686

Generations and colors are shit

They're not as shit as the other modern Sonic games, but they're still horribly flawed games

>>378708971
I should pick up spark sometime

>>378706227
not with ken penders it won't

>>378714573
It looks perfectly fine. What the fuck are you even talking about?

>>378705385
>this implies that mania is just CD revamped
really makes you think

>>378714417
They start downloading automatically after you paid.

The themes are shit: they don't have unique music and the colors mess with the UI and font. But the avatars are dope.

>>378714667

I mean it looks like it was fucking animated in flash with the fucking generic egoraptor style everyone copied

>>378712773
I don't believe you.

>>378714667
He's just a moronic contrarian.

>>378714761

lots of people downloaded it, including myself. I could just upload it somewhere.

>>378714828

you're a fucking underage retard

>>378695907
>the rabbit ears
It's the little touches.

>>378714861
Can such a thing even be done?

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>>378699050
These are pretty cute.

>>378715023

it could

>>378695907
>Stardust Speedway is also the Marble Garden
Neat.

>>378714751
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1rdIWlf8uI

>>378714447
Indeed, that's exactly what I meant.

>>378715310

because its true

>>378714547
No wonder Sonic is so shit, boring and uninspired now! It all makes sense! The geniuses left, and we have retards in charge now. Welcome to the new age of Sonic everyone, where games that are worse than 06 will be the standard for the series now

>>378715310
This post was made by Egoraptor

>>378715441
Not really, no.

>>378715428
having good art style=/=being good at animating

>>378709158
>smudgy look a lot of 90's anime had
It's called paint you humongous plebeian

>>378715549

the coloring is generic as FUCK FLASH 2 shades of coloring that everyone did 10+ years ago in FLASH

>>378714746
For some reason, mine didn't and other people are having the same problem.

>>378715023
It's just uploading a folder into mega, which might only be shared for this thread and its viewers. It's not like the moment the game is uploaded an alarm will sound at Nintendo HQ for a team of experts to assemble and take down the link immediately.

>>378715830
Then look at your library or at the theme menu.

>>378704245
I'm excited for A Hat in Time too

>>378716070
I already did that and look at the avatar menu as well. This is weird. Some people have them and some don't for some reason.

>>378716225
So you don't have the themes nor the avatars?

>>378716320
Yup. I don't have either of them and I've definitely preordered them.

>>378715310
Fuck, I forgot how bad his videos are.

>>378695907
>( 1 )
>( 2 )
>( 3 )
>( K )
>( M )

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How would gameing be different if sega didn't make ass games for almost 10 years straight when it came to sonic and let fans help and Nintendo still did the shit it's pulling now?

>>378716589
I don't get the "K" one. Why is 4 listed as "K"? I know STH4 is bad, but why "K" instead of "4"?

>>378716672
It's a sort of pun on 4K I think

>>378716672
&K

>>378712470
Those better not be cutscenes. I'll take an intro and an outro, but none of that cutscene shit. Take me to the next zone as soon as I finish a boss battle.

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>>378716665
In no way whatsoever.
Time, as well as sonic hype is cyclical and ever rebirthing.

>>378716672
Sonic & Knuckles

>>378704850
CD-style Sonic is timeless, yeah.

The fact that /v/ praises sonic mania and absolutely tears sonic forces a new one ever since that character creator reveal always leaves me in awe.

>>378717817
I think it was more the classic sonic stuff in Forces that did people in

>>378695907
The Sonic Cycle is almost complete once more.

>>378717909
I don't think it really applies that much anymore. People knew the Boom games were going to be shit, Colors and Generations were loved and Mania and Forces look fine. Sega is actually listening to fans this time.

>game is mostly remixed old levels
>is 70 dollars
the fuck?

>>378717817
No it was the reveal of the GHZ footage where the visuals and design are a noticeable step down from even Generations.

>>378717909
I think its inevitable that people are going to shitpost about the game when it comes out but as long as you're not expecting anything more than a bunch of new levels in the style of 3K with nice spritework and tunes then I don't know how this could disappoint.

>>378717817
Character creation just isn't needed, for the same reason Mario doesn't need a character creator system.

>>378718150
It's 20 bucks on Stream.

>>378718138
It applies for people that never liked Sonic in the first place

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>"oh boy sonic mania looks pretty cool, better replay the older sonic games from genesis to emotionally prepare"
>I didn't enjoy a single one of them now. Last time I played them was when I was 7 in the late 90s

>>378706904
The level just looks flat out awful.
Not to mention the blatant loss of momentum right after Sonic finishes spinning through the tubes/tunnels.

>>378718212
It's 20 bucks everywhere.

>>378713450
It's hard to give the story that much thought when it was so barely covered in-game.

It had what.. 3 cutscenes, tops? All I even remember is the goofy cartoony cutscene in the first level and the GOOOORE at the end. Anything else I had no fucking idea about unless you read the manual.

>>378718394
I can still replay 2, CD, 3&K and have fun.

Could never play through Sonic 1 though. I always quickly lose interest in Marble Zone

>>378718202
Even I think the character creation is a fucking stupid idea, but don't you dare go around comparing Mario and Sonic like they're the exact same thing you fucking moron

>>378703175
oh yeah i watch his youtube channel hes pretty cool.

>>378718394
No idea how you couldn't enjoy a single one. Like, seriously no idea.

>>378718887
You misunderstand. I play Mario games to play as Mario and friends. I play Sonic games to play as Sonic and friends. I DON'T play either of them to play as my own character. It's just unnecessary.

>>378719216
I like the speedy gameplay but the level design wasn't for me at all.

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>>378695907
...damn.

Ok who else is preordering?

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>>378719725
already did

>>378719725
I did. Now the wait is on.

>2d sonic
>perfectly right

no

Only the adventure games were good

So that's why Tyson was tweeting about people saying nice things to him, good for him

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>>378696919
You should see what's going on with Pokemon then.

Gen 6 and 7 were both awful, yet there's been a Renaissance of actually amazing fangames being developed. Sage (pic related), Phoenix Rising, and Ethereal Gates all look fantastic

>>378703126
So, a DS game then.

>>378704091
>It's there, alongside Knuckles exclusive paths.
How can you determine that?

>>378708698
Those people are in possession of three of the most appealing art styles on the planet right now, so it's no surprise the animation is so fucking gorgeous.

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I never thought I would want a fictional character as a younger brother, but if I did it would be Tails.

>>378718394
>"Huh, Sonic Mania looks pretty neat. I should play the other Mega Drive Sonic games considering I've never played 2 or 3&K."
>I absolutely loved them and am now even more excited for Mania.
As a side effect, I can't stand any of the 3D Sonic games any more.

>>378720927
I always thought Pokemon fangames were a meme until I played Prism and holy fuck, even though it's a rom hack of a fucking 2001 game, it still puts pretty much every modern Pokemon game to shame
I really wish they would put as much love and effort into modern Pokemon games as fan developers do, but they don't need to because Pokemon sells regardless

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>>378721472
Fuck Dailfs and fuck fox people.

>>378721485
I played through 3&K last night and I stand by it being one of the best platformers ever made.

>>378721340
Why wouldn't Knuckles exclusive paths be there? Mania's building on 3 and Knuckles' formula.

>>378722159
Sprite work in that game is crazy good.

>PROUDLY presents
What did they mean by this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTrd8XIVRQw

Zones ranked so far from best to worst
1. Mirage Saloon Act 2
2. Studiopolis Act 1
3. Green Hill Act 2
4. Stardust Speedway
5. Green Hill Act 1
6. Flying Battery Act 1

That cathedral also looks really great, can't wait to see more of that and all of these.

>>378722528
The cathedral looks amazing. Very un-Sonic like.

After playing Street Fighter 2, I cant wait to see how this actually looks on the Switch screen itself, the colors just pop so well

I'm more excited for Forces because apocalypse settings are my jam, but Mania is gonna be one for the history books if everything stays as good as it looks now

New batch from Mishyoshi.

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>>378698010
I mean, Nintendo didn't rape their mascot into the ground with nothing but shit first party releases annually...

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>>378723031
only a matter of time.

>>378723148
are the rabbids things big in japan or something?

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>>378723235
They were in an popular children's anime for one episode.

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>>378706218

>>378695907
Can you play 3 players?
1 Sonic
1 Tails
1 Faggot

???

Cause me and my 2 other brothers played a lot of sonic 3 & Faggot back in the day.

Would be cool if we could get to play all 3 at once before we pass on.

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>>378714751
>le egoraptor invented the Brush tool meme

Oh look it's this faggot again

best boss/game isn't even from SEGA
https://youtu.be/9Sh86I4vLeE?t=5m20s

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>>378706218
>>378723378
Found 2.

>>378696919
Better question:

How long until Nintendo fans make a better Mario game than Miyamoto?

>>378715023
>>378715023
youre rtarded, plese stop posting for the rest of the day. and leearn to press google once in awhile

https://pastebin.com/WemxcmN6

>>378719725
i will, whenever my fucking taxes comes in. the question is, do i buy the switch version so i have it already when i get it, or buy the ps4 version. i think i might go with the switch version, because having a sonic game like that portable sounds amazing to me.

>>378709036
>Call me autistic
You fucking Autistic

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>>378704462
At no point did they ever say we are getting "more old zones than new". Do you ever stop lying?

>>378724339
We are getting more old zones though. They are just completely different, but still have the same setting.

I can't find the pic, but I believe Mania uses adjusted angular momentum like the Rush games:

>On a ramp, Sonic will "bend" to the curve over time and change direction

As opposed to exact angular shifting like the old games:

>On a ramp or sharp direction change, he automatically snaps to the new direction

As autistic as that sounds, it's a huge fucking deal for the overall gameplay feel.

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>>378724405
"Getting more old zones" and "Getting more old zones than new zones" is not the same thing. I don't really care that its true, the lies and rumors are obnoxious.

>>378724532
Are you autistic? Let me rephrase that then for your stupid autistic ass.

We are getting more old zones than new zones, though. They are just completely different, but still have the same setting.

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>>378721694
To be fair Prism and the 3 I mentioned are by like, several planes of quality above even the next best one.

Most pokemon fangames are shit, it's just there's been a lot of actually good ones being worked on and coming out recently

My only complaint is knuckles' wall climb speed might be a bit too slow.

ENDLESS POSSIBILITIES

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>>378724609
You have yet to prove your claim. They never said what you are implying.

>>378724936
Okay, since you fail at Google, here you go.

http://www.tssznews.com/2016/09/20/iizuka-on-sonic-twitch-stream-sonic-mania-will-have-more-classic-levels-than-new-ones/

>Takashi Iizuka and Hoshino had made special guests appearances on the stream. Although there wasn’t much, we did learn one new thing about Sonic Mania: the ratio of levels. It was revealed that there will be more classic levels than new levels.

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>>378724936
Read >>378708979
Iizuka mentioned how there were more old zones than new, Taxman also confirmed it later:
https://twitter.com/cfwhitehead/status/778579023983104001

>>378724689
I know, which is probably why I thought they were a meme for so long. I've played a ton of shitters, so that's why Prism came as such a shock to me.

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>>378725054
>>378725136
Do we know the ratio?

>>378720927
Are there any good Pokemon ROMhacks/fangames that omit HMs? Because Game Freak isn't doing a terribly good job but after SM I will never play a Pokemon with HMs again.

>>378725192
No we do not.

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>>378695907
>1
>2
>3
>K

That got me.

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>>378696348
This, meanwhile on Sonic Team's latest disappointment

>>378725218
From the elevator buttons and trailer, there looks to be a Zone for 1, 2, 3, S&K and CD at least. With the Mania stages at this point being Studiopolis, Mirage Saloon and the leaked cathedral/castle zone.

>>378725572
Has Chris reacted to this? I don't keep up with autismos but I bet he'd be jizzing himself

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ummm sonic was never good.

>>378723797
This one is pretty well placed actually. You have to be precise with your jump if you want the shield and not get hit too.

I've seen players fail that little challenge a lot in videos.

>>378726251
Yeah, that very video the screenshot is from the guy hits it.

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>>378705651
For fucking real? Damn, didn't know that.

>>378727052
It's funny how when he isn't drawing them jokingly he actually draws them pretty well.

>>378725572
It HAD to happen eventually, that was just inevitable
It actually looks good so far, but I'm judging by in game only, I could care less how fans and tumblr react to it