Who does female character design better in your opinion, Japanese

>>378687993
Japanese hands down

I love loli.

>>378687993
People?
Unless you were born in the United States during like 1998 and got the SJW twitter cancer.

>>378687993
Japan tends to do the little character quirks and daily routine details better. Western game writers will typically skimp out on such details to instead focus on the "action" and drama, which generally takes away the ability to get to know and care about the character.

However, Japan also tends to just stereotype characters and slot them into a fairly standard personality category. I'm not really sure when they began, but it seemed to become very popular in anime in the 00's, and it transferred over to video game writing. That frequently takes away from the character, as instead of a unique individual, they just seem like a recolor of another character you've seen dozens of times before. Western writers may have their problems, but at least a good character tends to stand out as different for a number of reasons.

Although there are a lot of shit western writers who just pigeonhole characters into the "stereotypical black", "stereotypical woman", "stereotypical butch lesbian", and other stereotypes from bad movie writing. That seems to be getting somewhat popular recently.

Literally who would say Western devs?

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>>378687993
how the fuck is this even a question

Western, because they actually know how to create characters that aren't weeb fapbait or walking tropes, as well as design something that isn't generic anime face no 23443245543 attached to a skimpy outfit.

>>378689392
>Western, because they actually know how to create characters that aren't...walking tropes
lel

>>378689197
You're still alive!?

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Nips, duh

>>378689392
>because they actually know how to create characters that aren't weeb fapbait or walking tropes

Pffffffffftttttt,they are fapbait just for people with normie tastes.

>>378689621
>I fap to anime girls im not a ''normies''

Stop trying to think you are a special snowflake for fapping to anime girls something that many people do dumb normalfag.

>>378689197
Shut the fuck up Onsokumaru

>>378689093
Thx for this reply. Shame all of /v/ will say Japan cause "muh big titties" and "ESJAYDUBBYAS"

I'd also add that Japs don't focus as much on realism when it comes to physical design. What they produce tends more towards cartoonist abstraction. Western devs are more interested in designing with a realistic look to the characters, flaws and all

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Japs make better women, west makes better men. Discuss.

>>378689392
>Western
>Not walking tropes

Kek

Honestly I just prefer anime artstyle over realism.

>>378689392
because it's better to design a character that doesn't appeal to anyone, than to create one that would appeal to weebs

As a straight male, I vastly prefer the attractive designs of Japanese developers. They have cute girls down to a science and I just prefer to look at attractive girls over ugly girls, I just do even if I can admit that the cute and sexy Japanese designs are not as logical as Western ones may be or harder to be taken seriously. I just like cute girls man, it's hard to overcome my base instincts on this topic. That doesn't mean I can't enjoy a Western female character but at the end of the day, I just like to be visually stimulated.

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>>378689093
>However, Japan also tends to just stereotype characters and slot them into a fairly standard personality category. I'm not really sure when they began
We first started to see the beginnings of anime characters being slotted into fairly standard personalities in the late 70s/early 80s with Lum, who was the first tsundere and arguably the first of any of the -deres. Her popularity sparked the moe boom of the late 80s and early 90s, where more anime girls (and a bunch of JRPGs that never got localized) started to pop up capitalizing on personality qualities that sold.

>>378687993
Japan. One very simple answer to explain it all. Princess Peach and her massive ass

>>378687993

Well for one, anyone who's ever seen a western 3d model knows the Japs have modeling and graphics down hands pat compared to the west. It's not even a close competition. Like, go look at mass effect vs Near a Tomato

Japanese does better female characters (designs and in general)

America does better male characters

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Japan. They gave me Kat.

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>>378689093
>>378690042
Also these traits didn't leak into video games in the 00s, they were all over the place in vidya since the late 80s and early 90s if you looked hard enough.
Pic related.

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I wonder

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stupid sexy bird

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Has the west ever made a good loli type characters?

>>378689810
Japan tends to do either cartoony characters (Nintendo is a big one in this regard) or anime characters, where the defining features tend to be outlandish as a method of being memorable. Western indie devs will frequently make cartoony characters as well (and some shitty devs try their hand at generic anime designs) but for the most part, the AAA western developers try hard at realism. Part of this is the audience they are catering towards, as they are all going after mostly the same market, and part of this is a massive amount of consolidation and follow-the-leader principles in western game development.

>>378687993
East makes their vidya female characters too cute while the west makes them too gritty. What we need is a perfect blend of the two.

>>378689889
Japan often designs self insert male betacuck MC's (who are often jerked around and abused by the female characters) cause it's easier for those who play their games to relate to.

It's funny that people say it's Western games that are cucked and feminized considering that most Jap male leads tend to be either awkward betafags or emotional pretty boys designed to appeal to the shoujo and finishing crowd

>>378690201
I wish I knew moonrunes, fuck.

>>378690409

So like, Velvet from Berseria?

>>378690507
Name 5 MC's.

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>>378687993
Slavic

>>378689941

Me too. I just kinda wish the personalities of female characters in Jap games had a little more depth to them. Western realism may not be as attractive, but sometimes Western devs can write a better female character, provided that the writer isn't trying too hard to make a political statement.

>>378690042
>>378690201
Lum being the first tsundere certainly doesn't mean she was following a trend. And, heck, back then writers at least tried to keep the characters separate and distinct in most people's minds. While I'm no expert on the anime side of things, what I understand is that Shakugan no Shana really popularized the tsundere stereotype, to the point where a vast number of tsunderes after here were short, hot-headed, flat chested, long-haired little firebrands. While tsunderes might've been popular before that, afterwards there were a LOT of writers putting out very similar characters with very similar designs, very similar personalities, and following much of the same stereotypes.

That's what I'm talking about. It's not that tsundere is popular. It's that nearly every tsundere you run across is going to be a short feisty girl with long hair and an optional tooth-fang, who berates another character but becomes a stuttering awkward girl unsure of herself once off screen. And you see that with a lot of stereotypes in anime these days, as well.

>>378690201
>tfw this was the equivalent of neptuniashit for ancientfags

>>378690317
Little Sisters, like that's the name not the relation.

Also, don't lewd Igor.

>>378690317
Clementine

>>378687993
depends on which Japanese or Western developer is making characters.
For example, we all know Netherrhelm studios can't make femaie designs if it depended on their lives, and that Marvelous tends to mostly stick to 2 body types in most situations.

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>>378689941

>>378690317
Olivia Mann

>>378691229
Seriously I legit think the reason why japanese shit has been getting more mainstream lately is because of that.

Like even the most hard headed normalfags would prefer right.

>>378690317
>hews
>like his 2B gallery
>find out he's a flip
I guess my homeland isn't so shit after all

Japanese for the simple reason that most of the girls they design actually act like girls ie have long hair, wear a dress and liking cute shit as opposed to western girls who are bull dykes most of the time.

>>378687993
Nationality does not matter, only competence.

>>378691047
I didn't say that Lum being the first tsundere made her follow a trend, I'm saying she started the trend and her popularity among otaku (and just the people who bought merch of her) made people in the industry realize that girls with specific personality traits sell which is why we saw a skyrocket of tsunderes, kuuderes, danderes and cute girls in the late 80s and early 90s.

>While I'm no expert on the anime side of things, what I understand is that Shakugan no Shana really popularized the tsundere stereotype
Evangelion really popularized tsunderes a decade before that.

Also short feisty girls with long hair, tooth-fangs berating characters and then becoming awkward's almost always been a thing. Lum was exactly that except for being short.

>>378691229
What's the point in making an ugly elf when elves are meant to be beautiful?

>>378690507
Japan:
>18 year old boy without an ounce of muscle who is apparently the "leader" of some ragtag bunch of little girls but they're bossing him around most of the time
West:
>Mid-to-late 20s guy with a somewhat athletic/muscular build and a penchant for never shutting the fuck up with one liners

>>378691229
Loli Mikami fucking when?

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>>378687993
That's a useless question, because character design is the product of individual artists who each have different goals for their designs.

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>>378691781
>muh equality
>#NotAllElves
>self destructive feminism

Pick one of those, or all

>>378691876
Soon

>>378692072
How can one little elf be so lewd?

>>378691874
Japan wins in this case only because western one-liners are the same fucking jokes repeated endlessly

>>378690507
>finishing crowd
I've heard this a few times before but I still don't know what it means.

She seriously needs those breasts reduced or she's going to get backpain

>>378692578

It can't be helped.

>>378692578
t. chestlet

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LOOK AT THIS SHIT
I FUCKING LOVE IT

Japanese business culture is all about how fast you can sell out. As thus, all their characters are designed to be quirky and unique in the hopes of getting the attention of one of the many megacorps owned by one of Japan's two ultracorps. Once they get their paycheck, the character is then hollowed out and streamlined to fit a certain character mold and then merchandised the hell out of, in and out.

>>378687993
Explain to me apologists, why do her tits have to be so huge?

>>378693649
why not

>>378693649

Because the artist drew her that way.

>>378693649
Because it feels good to look at?

>>378693649
Because if if doesn't matter then why make her tits small?

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Japan because they blessed us with this miracle

Japs, but not because of that sameface generic garbage in the OP

>>378687993
>>378687993
Western females characters I want to kill.
Eastern females characters I want to BE.
So obviously Eastern devs to it better.

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>>378694328
Why do you want to kill this cute lolibot?

>>378687993
Western developers who have no qualms with making attractive characters >= Japanese developers > Western developers who get butthurt over attractive characters, and bitch about stupid shit

>>378694450

Still waiting on that Vita version.

>>378693649
There is no excuse, they're just sexist.

>>378693649
They don't. Especially when modern men no longer desire big breasts

>>378694450
>western game with cute grils
>they're all sluts

gee what a surprise

>>378694450
>That writing
How many upvotes does this game get on plebbit?

>>378687993
Both of them generally suck, but each of them have gems.

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>>378695534
Atleast they're honest

>>378687993
>Japanese

It's usually weebshit, so western wins by default.

>>378694450
It was cute at first, but then she killed it with the dildo stuff.

I still wanna play because of the soundtrack though.

>>378690095
who dis?

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>>378689332

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Japan, I guess?
I really don't play a lot of games that even have women in them, let alone focus on them.

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>>378690042
>tfw love Urusei Yatsura and Lum but completely despise the decades of moeshit she spawned

>>378695534

Sei is not a slut.

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>>378687993
nowadays it's probably the japs since the west is so concerned witb making sure thier female character doesn't trigger any special needs "videogame journalists" that accuse a dev of being misogynistic because thier female character isnt a crippled black bulldyke muslim with rainbow hair and breast cancer

>>378695885

Gravity Rush.

>>378687993
Japs make better sluts. West makes better characters.

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>>378696162
i thought her hair was blue

also mfw first saw on a weeb movie late at night on an obscure long dead network that focused on "international" (asian) shows.

>>378697024
Her hair is blue, it's just the front page being stylized

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>>378687993
Japanese

because Western devs give you shit like this and Alloy

>>378687993
>tfw your chest is lemons

>>378689093
>implying that good Japanese characters are inherently limited
You don't actually read, watch or play too much Jap shit do you?

>>378689197
This. Fucking this.

Pssh holy fuck hahaha I mean... why even make this thread. The answer is OBVIOUS HELLLOOOOOOO.
*knock knock*
Anyone there /v/? HELLLLLOOOOOO?
HAHAHAHA *catches breath*.... I can't believe someone made this thread expecting people to ACTUALLY think western female design is better like... pffftt.. What were they thinking at the time of the first post? Did they not drink their almond milk this morning I mean... *sigh*, I'm more surprised than angry really.

>>378697217
Yeah, but I want to show the power of dick to that ugly dyke by raping her. If you know what I mean.

>>378697229

Those are some very plump lemons.

>>378692431
It's what I yell out loud when I use my special attack

>>378697674
They were grown and treated with immense care.

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>>378691885
What's the goal of Kurisu's design?

>>378687993
Jp but that's because the west doesn't even bloody try.

western devs have too much ego to make good female characters. they think they can present a character who looks like crap and acts like a total bitch and still make players like her because of their amazing writing.

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I'm a biased weeb faggot too but come on guys

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>>378691268
>the webms of her

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>>378697872
To be distinctive, unique, aesthetic and sexy.

>>378696861
why does it always have to be console damn it?

>>378698341

Because Sony, but she's mai waifu. Can't have her. I'm surprised you never caught wind of it considering the second game was one of the first major releases this year. To be fair though it probably got buried in the public eye by Resident Evil 7 and possibly even Yakuza 0's localization. That was all mere days apart.

>>378693649
Why do my tits have to be so small?

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>>378689332
there is not a single person on /v/ who things this is attractive.

>>378698061
Anon the west hasn't made a good looking woman in years.

>>378690042
>>378691047
>>378691720
Would it be nice if they remake Urusei Yatsura?

>>378699194

Eh, Nilin from Remember Me is passable. Definitely has a standout ass.

>>378690320
This is so stupid to me. I'm a scrawny unfit faggot IRL who never gets the pussy. In my escapism hobbies, I want to be the badass action star hero of the land who slays the dragons, rescues the princesses, and gets shit done. I get to be me every damn day of my life, let me pretend to be somebody cooler in vidya.

>>378698821
Well I don't own a console so don't know anything about console releases, that's probably how I missed it.

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>>378699256
How would the modern moe audience even react to early 80s moe?

>>378687993
Western devs are better at making realistic designs
Japanese devs are better at making iconic designs

Guess which one results in better characters

>>378699895
it's a romcom love triangle so not much would change

>>378699910
Neither of those are better than the other. They're just different.

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>Western manface trannies
>Vs perfect voluptuous anime girls

Life's full of hard choices, this was not one of them.

>>378700238
>t. Western dev
If you're trying to establish an IP or want to create a memorable experience you want things to stand out and be unique.

>>378700238
Says you

>>378700173
This is a thread about female characters.

>>378700329
EXACTLY

>>378691229

My version of Inquisition doesn't look that bad. This is no way max settings. They've patched alot of textures including faces since the goty edition.

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>>378700398
>Implying you care if this had a dick once

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Japanese doing western style design.

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>>378687993

Western developers, by far. Having every female character amount to soulless fanservice or simply be a generic love interest for the male protagonist gets boring fast. No, I'm not saying devs don't have the freedom to do whatever the fuck they want with their games, but fanservice doesn't interest me at all. If you're going to invest all that effort into designing these characters, you could at least make them functional.

>>378700960
Oh look, another idiot who bases his opinion on the small amount of trash he's been exposed to.

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>>378687993
Japan

>>378700960
what is the point of female characters if not fanservice?

>>378687993
>girls will never have tits this big
>you will never be one of them
Why even live?

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>>378701646
Amazing post.

>>378700960
This is pretty spot on.

Dragon's Dogma I find does really well to break the trend of fanservice kinds of female characters despite some of them using anime tropes.

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>>378700535
Unlike (You) I have standards.

>>378701789
>>378700960
Spotted the women

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>>378701878
Clearly

>>378701736
Girls have them that big but they'll never be that big, perky AND attached to an actual cute and non hambeast girl.

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>>378701975
Breast augmentation

>>378701929
>i want two dimensional women that borrow the same achetypes over and over.

This is why Samus was absolutely ruined in Other M.

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It's a shame that the west is no longer permitted to make hot women anymore thanks to a political climate that permits little but ugliness to avoid offense.

Anime is so devoid of creativity and originality, and its enthusiasts are endlessly obnoxious and self-important, yet it's the only place where women are not drawn like men

Why can't we just go back to the 90s-early 2000s when both were good?

>>378690317
Yes, the word literally came from a western character.

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>>378687993
Japanese.

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>>378687993
Japan

I expected more big and perky video games

>>378690726
MC Hammer
Young MC
MC EIHT
MC of Run DMC
I only have 4.... damn.

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>>378687993
Japanese, only because the West is slowly killing itself from the inside since 2014, see recent cancer like Horizon Zero Dawn and Mass Effect Andromeda

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>>378702893

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>>378702893
Meryl is big

>>378703286
You know a Japanese did this because of the massive protruding nips

>>378691874
West, I miss when Japan appealed to a global market.

>>378703743
>western game

>>378687993
Japan but I am tired of the bug eyed anime girls.

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>>378702893

I'd say Senran Kagura is a rather big and perky series.

>>378703875
>Japanese photoshop

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>>378702267
What the hell are you talking about?

>>378687993
Considering the japanese usually always forget to include noses on their characters I have to go with the west.

>>378687993
Whoa... Imagine a world where literally everyone looked like this...

>>378687993
>Japanese
you should be using the term eastern
of course i would say i prefer eastern looking designs but i think the last western deisgns that i loved were from >skyrim from example

>>378699608
>Remember Me came out in 2013
Like I said anon, years.

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>>378690065
Fucking this. I love an ass big enough to cause huge damage

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>>378702670
>kirin girl

At least post a good one.

>>378704605

>it's been 4 years since Remember Me

Where the fuck does the time go?

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>>378687993
West on the count that they don't make their girls look like aliens. The only female designs that the East look good are the one that have a more realistic style. Samus should be a primary example, along with Yakuza, and Nioh. I wish Japan stop moeing everything up. At least Bayonetta looks nice.

>>378690317
>>378691067
>igor's place is now literally prison
>and igor is imprisoned
>his assistants were two lolis until someone else took them away from him
>more, it was actually one loli before she got 'broken'
>don't lewd igor, he says
igor was a pervert in p5, this is canon fact. i bet entire end of the world happens because god saw all of that kinky shit igor does to his loli and lost faith in the future

>>378704357
Sign me up

>>378704854
breeding material

>>378689197
Shut up nigger who wants to be white or Asian

>>378704942
But literally everyone means all of the guys too

>>378689889
I usually want to fuck Japan males in video games

>>378701975
that is a fucking lie

its more like you will never SEE them and if you DO, she is already taken/ is in a relationship/ doesn't like you/ doesn't want to be friends with you

because i knew one during HS, mostly due to her being in my classes all the time. nice, but we were never more than "hey whats up" friends.

>>378700418
>GUYS THEY GOT IT RIGHT A YEAR LATER, IGNORE ANDROMEDA.

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>>378690571
No, still too cute.

ARAnea is a good example of perfection.

>>378690270
And what is this from?

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>>378687993
Japanese designers that immitate western designs. Seems like the only way to get realistic but attractive girls.

I swear it's like at some point art talent got swapped between the West and Japan.
If you look back, you'll see god tier Western art and Japanese scribbles.
But it's the exact opposite now. Even worse, half the time Western art is drowning in watermarks in addition to being awful. Those people don't even deserve to be called artists. They're just egomaniacs.
What the fuck happened?

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>>378687993

>>378707223
SJWs.
Compare the art between watchdogs 1 & 2

>>378704854
I'll take alien face over man face any day.

>>378687993
Western because they design actual 3D models, instead of weird looking drawings of roasties that appeal the 'tism crowd.

The only people who disagree are usually dropout sjw autists who tell their parents that they are gay to excuse their inability to form relationships outside the internet.

Japs have never made a 3D character that isn't an Asian freak or manjaw.

>>378707648
Because you're a faggot who gets turned on by women who look like deformed adolescent boys.

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The west has made attractive females, they just aren't in video games.

>>378704854
DUDE REALISM LMAO

>>378708708
wrong, even comic writers have caved to the SJW meme. Iron man is a black woman now.

>>378707974
>the 'tism crowd.
>someone who uses the term 'roasties' calling other people autistic

>>378708103
The only faggot is someone like you who gets turned on by a tranny "woman".

Japan, and i'm not even a weaboo. EA and Ubisoft give the rest of west devs bad fame, with their SJW and/or incompetent character designers.

>>378689889
>>378690089
Name three western main characters better than papa nier, solid snake, and dante.

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>>378709031

So because Iron Man is a black chick all other comic book girls are null and void? I don't get your argument

>>378709729
>papa nier, solid snake, and dante.
is this bait

>>378709910
>midriff
>hoop earrings
>make up
>fashion hair.

This isn't really SJW at all, otherwise they'd go fucking nuts over the 'male gaze'.

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>>378699728
I pity you.

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>>378710012
Elaborate further

>>378687993
If you exclude anime shit like int he OP I would say east, but if you include it I say west.

>>378709910
WE

I wish I was an anime girl.

>>378710353

I want to buy Kat an ice cream cone.

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>>378702267

>>378710808
Me too.

Japan likes cute things and Western culture is neck deep in "realism" these days.

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>>378710906
You won't buy me shit, BITCH! You don't own me.

>>378693649
I don't understand what you're asking

>>378694201
>mfw no one noticed the vag

>>378711069

But I bought her game.

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>>378711173
You're alright then. Just be sure to stay at home tomorow.

>>378711275

Oukey.

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objection

>>378710149
>iron MAN into a woman.
>this isnt SJW at all
you probably shit posted about horizon having a female lead too didn't you retard?

>>378693649
Why not.
I'm assuming they draw what they want, when i was little i used to make shitty female drawings with big tits (because naturally i liked chicks with big tits)
Not sure why it's wrong to see fictional characters with huge proportions.

>>378697453
I hate myself for laughing at this.

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What's the point of making east vs west threads? You people won't learn anything and will just spend all day arguing about shit that doesn't really matter.

Anyway, using "west" is such a bullshit copout catchall since you can just pull any developer from Europe out of your ass to make Americans look better by association. CD Projeckt and Bethesda games don't have much in common as far as character design goes.

>>378713163

>You people won't learn anything and will just spend all day arguing about shit that doesn't really matter.

/v/ in a nutshell.

>>378713163
Why do Italians love Go Nagai so much? Is it like black Americans with DBZ?

They're both fucking awful. Anyone who looks to video games as an example of good writing needs to kill themselves.

>>378713536

>character design
>good writing

?

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>>378690507
are you shitting me? Every time the Japanese do the opposite and make a more unique character, you all call him a "over-designed animu shitstain" which is amazingly fucking ironic since you simultaneously claim that Jap MCs are all generic animu normal looking cucks as well.

Make up your minds, do you want Sol Badguy or Rito Yuuki?

Please define this abstract "middle ground" for me

>>378703852
Japs try even harder to get the global market now, what are you on? Did you miss the shit getting released in the west before it even hits Japan or things like that Naruto game having the Brazil exclusive costumes? What about something like My Hero Academia or One Punchman? They obviously want the American capeshit audience now.

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>>378707648
Man face, I like my women looking like Humans not freaks.

>>378709121
I didn't know Kait was a tranny. We Americans don't make trannys we make actually characters.

>>378713163
That's literally the fucking point. We all come to this board just to yell at each other until we go to sleep.

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>it's an "I skimmed Wikipedia for 5 minutes, so now I'm an expert on foreign cultures" episode

You know, I found out that the Japanese do the same thing. When I was over there a few months ago, I went to a game store and talked to an employee. He told me that he thought that American games sucked because "they were all the same shooting thing" and then he went on a tangent about how American comics are always the same story about New York or California getting saved by some tall superhero with lots of muscles shooting lasers. It was like I walked into bizarro asian /v/ when I heard all of same ignorant opinions on things a person had looked at for 5 minutes, but in reverse. Surprised he also didn't rant about how America used to make cool stuff when he was 12 but how it was all generic blue collar pandering manshit now.

>>378708728
Something that doesn't look like moe shit. Like Metroid art, Zelda art, MGS art, Resident Evil art. Something like that also Final Fantasy are. These are games that have a more serious realistic like art style that look like a non moeshit anime, not like that ugly shit you see in games like Senran Kagura.

>>378714245
western comics are shit no matter what culture you're from, they're an embarrassment, especially compared to manga

>>378689889
No

>>378714156
I come here for insightful discussions and they occur sometimes. It just has to be for a specific game that kiddos don't know about.

>>378713812
And that's good, I hope this shit actually continues. It's time to move away from that high school shit and start appealing to the world more. the new anime/mangas they've been making now are just the start of them returning to their roots.

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>>378690940
>slavs

>>378687993
The rule is that realistic design almost always looks like complete shit in 5-10 years and more stylized design looks better over time. Just so happens that jap games tend towards stylization and western games can't seem to grasp why that might be the way to go

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>>378714267
What even is moeshit to you? Why do you worship realism?

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>>378687993
Japs

>>378714338
I'll totally admit that American capeshit is usually awful, but there are good series produced there. They're just usually done through something like Image instead of Marvel or DC. Y: The Last Man was pretty enjoyable (also not about superheroes) and managed to avoid getting preachy about feminism in a series where all but one character is female.

And then if we're talking about French comics, they have such a wide range of subject matter and art styles, it's not even comparable to a lot of other western comics. The Long Tomorrowand La Foire aux immortels are both great reads.

I mean, yeah, I still prefer manga, but westerners have produced good shit as well.

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>>378714338
>western comics are shit no matter what culture you're from


Has the weeb takin another victim?

>>378714461
>their roots
When did you start watching anime? Most of the shit they used to do was about things observed in Japan or maybe China, as far as the Douga era of anime goes. Nakamura Gatana is literally just wanking the glory of the legendary katana and that's the first anime that anyone knows of existing.

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>>378715139
>literally Devilman for Americans

>>378715139
>/co/ fags crawl out of the woodwork to post their "totally not a superhero" superhero comics
95% of american comics are capeshit that hasn't been socially relevant since the 50s but somehow still keeps getting made

>>378714739
Because I miss the days of 80s-90s anime my friend.
>>378715185
80s-90s

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>>378710965
Sauce?

>>378714829
source?

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>>378714461
>American capeshit superhero anime
>appealing to the world
Kek, you Americans really do think the whole world revolves around your taste and opinions. Liberal arts colleges really fucked your minds up. If they want to appeal to the entire world, they need to make a clone of either TinTin or Dennis the Menace. (British one, not the American one, before you think you know what I'm talking about)

These sell way better than le superman punching people

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>>378715479
>80s anime
>realistic

OH BOY, I SURE LOVE MY HOKUTO SHINKEN ARTS WORKING JUST LIKE THEY DO IN REAL LIFE

>>378715281
To be fair, /a/ fags do the exact same thing with their "totally not moeshit" charts that show the 5 anime with unique art that they never actually discuss besides Ping Pong the animation.

>>378687993
The one that actually designs female characters and not gorillas.

>>378715139
Anon you could have posted an actuall intresting, and non-super hero seires like Sandman.

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>>378715479
Hate to break it to you, but 80s-90s anime wasn't realistic. Besides, it sounds like you're just nostalgic for what you were first exposed to, which is pretty shallow.

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>>378715479
Confirmed for watching less than 20 anime in the 90s.

You do realize that's when the tentacle rape memes started, right?

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>>378716074
The people that say things like this don't actually watch anime. I'd wager he didn't even hear of Hero Academia until the other anon brought it up.

>>378690095
*Kitten
>>378696861
*Gravity Daze

>>378716256

Semantics.

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>>378687993
Late ps2 gamecube era capcom and team silent stuff if you mean the actual in-game appearances.
Japanese going for a more realistic and western style with rugged and "flawed" texturework implemented throughout while still working with idealized models.

More Animu things can be cool too but very quickly feel like generic mlp or sonic oc's pooped out hastily although drawn by atleast a decent to pretty good artist. Especially the more "Moe" you go up the scale.

Western games and probably culture as a whole is a lot less concerned with traditionally "cute" and very clean. If those are things you universally want to see in female character design because of your dick than western games will probably fall short for you in both quantity and quality. Like i think Q3A's Lucy is a cool female character design, but she is also probably universaly thought of as disgusting.
I really liked Gretel MKII and Lilith from timesplitters and unreal tournament 2004. Cool female designs that aren't even a complete human female or that doesn't even matter all that much anymore. Cate Archer from NOLF is really cute in a slightly more western pixary way that is still very close to the capcom/team silent stuff i mentioned earlier. Shit is all over the place in the west, moreso than in japanese games from what i've personally experienced.

It's all about what you look for in a design and what you like. Asking for a on the whole better design is rather pointless in my opinion. If you like cute attractive stylized exegerrated but "clean" looking grills than Japan will offer you more. Do you like different styles, themes and subject matter in characters, especially more realistic or gritty/romantic than the west might offer you a smaller selection that floats your boat better.

I personally like a certain level of inbetween the most, often japanese emulating western style (f-zero x, darksouls, Darkstalkers). For pure raw violence and gritty, West knows best. (IDsoft, MortalKombats)

>>378706743
Sorry faggot, most womens power fantasy is being beautiful.

>>378691885
are you going to buy her game again?

>>378694450
why does /v/ shill this weeb kusoge?

>>378716460

Because it was made by /v/irgins for /v/irgins. Looking in a mirror isn't always a pleasant experience.

>>378690042
>>378690201
>00s
>70s and 80s
Come now, you can probably go back to the beginning of time with these character traits. I highly doubt these were "new traits" that magically came into existence during 70s.

Japan technically, but so few of their designs offer a nice ass. Western designs tend to have better hips and asses, but worse faces and tits.

>>378716330
she has the best pilot movie https://youtu.be/AwrX8assKXc?t=13m39s

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>>378716460
>using weeb as a deragatory term while unironically using the term kusoge

>>378716460
I'm glad that someone is finally using weeb correctly on here.

Take notes, faggots. If the game was made by westerners to look like Jap shit, it's a weeaboo game.
>>378695697
This is incorrect and nonsensical. It's the equivalent of calling most of Tupac's albums wiggershit.

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>>378716351
Probably. I'm worried about whether they'll screw Elite up by changing things too much though.

>>378705006
All brown people

>>378716634
This is common on 4chan. Lots of self hating weeaboo fucks that complain about everything Japanese, to the point that they claim Japanese things they like aren't really Japanese, see the Dark Souls fanbase or /fgg/.

>>378716547
This is correct, but people need a boogeyman to blame for why they think children's cartoons suck now.

>>378713163
CD Projeckt isn't western dumb dumb.

>>378701929
While typing posts like these they're probably fingering themselves to shit like Free or FFXV.

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>>378692852
at what (´・ω・`)

>>378713971
That seriously looks like a tranny. Even worse, it has whore makeup. Really, glorified clowns like that are the ones who really look like aliens.
Not only the face, that design in general is awful.

>>378716890

Western doesn't mean American, dumshit

>>378716802
>>378716713

>>378690317
Ellie from Monster Tale was alright. Umbrella was decent, too.

>>378716890
Central European countries like Poland have FAR more in common with the western world than the eastern world. Is Australia also eastern just because it's closer to asia than western Europe?

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>>378687993
Bait thread

>>378717168
>Anyway, using "west" is such a bullshit copout catchall since you can just pull any developer from Europe out of your ass to make Americans look better by association. CD Projeckt and Bethesda games don't have much in common as far as character design goes.
He was comparing western companies. How about reading next time?

>>378717203
I don't see how these two posts are related. VA-11 HALL-A's developers come from Venezuela. They are literally westerners trying to ape a Japanese style. This isn't like people claiming Dark Souls, a Japanese game developed by Japanese people in Japan, isn't Japanese because they like it. The game literally is not Japanese, but attempts to copy the Japanese style.

>>378717215
Poland is in eastern Europe meaning not western.

>>378717531
>The game literally is not Japanese, but attempts to copy the Japanese style.
That's what I'm complaining about. That's what I meant when I called it a weeb game. I was citing second anon because he knew what I meant.

>>378717215
>Is Australia also eastern just because it's closer to asia than western Europe?
Yes

>>378717306
>Faceless maidens
Is this the opposite of faceless fat old men?

>>378717657
You're a complete moron.

>>378717562
You really have no idea what the western world is, do you?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_world

Also, Poland is in Central Europe. Are you American? I refuse to believe anyone else could be this dumb with geography.

>>378717657
Wrong. Australia is considered western because of it's British and Hollandish roots.

>>378715769
>>378716074
>>378716096
I guess I should have explained better, I liked their art styles better in comparison to the late 2000s, Anime is getting less moe today. They also had a lot of cool space anime with aliens, I miss space anime with aliens. :(

>>378717657
Go to bed, Amerifat.

>>378716195
Nah been reading the manga and watching the series a lot. See>>378717821

>>378717782
>Poland is an eastern European country on the Baltic Sea known for its medieval architecture and Jewish heritage. Warsaw, the capital, has shopping and nightlife, plus the Warsaw Uprising Museum, honoring the city’s WWII-era resistance to German occupation. In the city of Kraków, 14th-century Wawel Castle rises above the medieval old town, home to Cloth Hall, a Renaissance trading post in Rynek Glówny (market square).

>>378717821
>:(

>>378717657
You are fucking retarded. Australia has next to nothing in common with the eastern world. They ban flat chested women in porn in Australia. In Japan, you can get porn of girls made to like 10. Chinese characters are recognized all throughout Vietnam, China, Korea, and Japan. Hell, they still use a few Hanja in Korea even though they switched over to hangul. Show me how many Australians know what 漢字 even means. Indian concepts like Buddhism pervade east asia even to this day. The average Australian doesn't care about reincarnation, the Kuji-in, or any of that shit.

>>378717821
Watch Space Dandy

>>378717982
Why so mad, my friend?

>>378718098
I did, loved it, miss it already.

>>378706537
腋巫女

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If there's one thing I dislike about Western character design, it's that it always seems so uninspired. I guess that's the right word.
Not just for character designs like this either. It's kind of embarrassing how some of the best Western style armor designs I've seen have come out of Japanese games.

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>>378687993
I only judge that on an individual basis. Generalizing like that for something as varied as character design is absurd.

>>378717974
>Poland (Polish: Polska [ˈpɔlska] ( listen)), officially the Republic of Poland (Polish: Rzeczpospolita Polska, is a parliamentary republic in Central Europe. Phytogeographically, Poland belongs to the Central European province of the Circumboreal Region within the Boreal Kingdom. Positioned in Central Europe with its eastern and part of its northeastern border constituting the longest land border of the Schengen Area with the rest of Northern and Central Europe

>>378718248
best of best girl?

>>378718234
No fun allowed in the west for the most part

>>378718104
I'm quoting the :(

>>378718029
>Show me how many Australians know what 漢字
Right here fucko
but you are right, our roots are british as fuck and very christian, but not catholic, just alcoholic

>>378687993
>western
>female character design
I guess if you're ok with guys with tits

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>>378714338
Low tier trolling or gook store employee?

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>>378718401
Are you a cutfag? I ask this to every Australian I know and the answer depends wildly by their age.

>>378718369
Oh okay.

>>378715679
>Liberal arts colleges
Yuropoor here, I thought Liberal arts colleges were anti american nationalism globalist culture relativists? Is this another move in the meme/counter-meme game? Or just mixing up generalizations.

>>378718665
nope, uncut here

>>378687993
For actual characters west easily.

For fuck dolls Japan.

>>378715479
Fuck of Phantom thief

>>378718295
>Wikipedia
Poland is eastern,. Fuck off.

>>378718738
Americans only go so far with that. They'll say that American politics and the free market are terrible, but still only watch American tv and movies since they're too lazy to read subtitles and won't go out of their way to watch any foreign thing unless it's MAYBE British, and even then, only if it gets broadcast in America like Doctor Who. They'll also defend things like circumcision because of their jewish overlords. They are, however, taught that they are special and that their individual opinion shapes the world with a massive weight of self importance.

>>378718946
>random travel sites
How many Poles have you met? Every one I talk to identifies as central European

>>378718946
In gaming Japan is the only country described as eastern, everything else is western fucking mongoloid.

the correct answer here is Japanese games that don't have generic anime artstyle

western devs, because they're less inclined to treat women like objects

btw i'm closing this thread so don't bother replying to me :^)

>>378687993
If big titties, skimpy outfits and puffy vaginas make a character good then Japan is better hands down.

>>378719265
To be fair, don't people refer to Korea and China as eastern as well?

>>378719414
You could say so, but their games are so bad it's not worth mentioning.

>>378719443
Magna Carta was alright.

>>378719414
Hong Kong 97 was pretty good.

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>>378687993
>Shirt under tits
Stop. My sister has huge tiddies and this is absolutely not how shirts work. They go over the tits, not under.

All Japan does is anime trash. And I like anime but their designs are often so overdone it makes me nauseous. I miss the days of Suikoden when Japan was able to strike a balance but these days is all straight up degeneracy pandering to weebs and their obsession with waifus.

Even tho Western devs are going crazy with the Sjw bullshit nobody can deny that the women in The Witcher and Overwatch are top tier designs with the perfect balance of practicality an sexiness. Japan can hardly even compete anymore.

>>378719407
What mainstream Japanese games have puffy vaginas?
>>378719867
I like the Chinese KoF clone. Never played any of their bootleg "rebalances" like I have with the Mexican ones, though.

>>378720039
Tell your sister to up her stretchy fabrics and/or waist-belt/sash game.

>>378687993
>playing western games

Kek

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>>378720413
The only way she would be able to emulate that is if she had an extremely elastic shirt that was big on her and she wrapped a belt under her tits.

Shirt-under-tits is one of my few problems with anime. It's obviously designed by men who have never seen women with big tits before. Not surprising, considering Japan's track record.

>>378718946
My mother is Polish, and she definitely is not "Eastern". Poland is Central European, and is developed enough to be considered part of the West.

>>378720298
>I miss the days of Suikoden when Japan was able to strike a balance
suikoden has the flattest, most archetypical anime characters of any jrpg series

>>378714503
Anglos > Slavs > Celtics > Germanics > Latins

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>>378720298
D.va is LITERALLY an asian pandering design. What the fuck are you on?

Have you not played a Fromsoft game lately? Or a Nintendo game? How about Megaten? I am Setsuna is literally made for people like you.

>>378721174
D.va is an Asian pandering design in the same way that Lucio is BR pandering, or Orisa is nigger pandering.

>>378721287
Lucio was originally Canadian.

>>378721318
not enough belts

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>>378720552
Yeah that's what i meant. Been a style since forever, especially 50s. OP's image doesn't really show the waistline so it's a possibility.

Japs just like to exegerate not only the size of breasts themselves but also the amount of stress and stretch they subdue clothes on for extra impact. Also it's easier to draw the naked body over and over with slight adjustments and stylization instead of trying to figure out the correct physics of clothing everytime, just like why all superheroes in the west wear skintight spandex.

>>378721324
Because Canadians are non-white cucks. Even Amerifats are whiter than them.

>>378689810
they include the wrong flaws though. Flaws can make someone seem more unique and even more attractive. Western devs tend to use flaws they know will make the character unattractive.

>>378721318
>Shirt under tits
>Needless leg belts
>Bandages over her left arm
>Choker
>All of her clothes are torn, but since her shirt is so needlessly hard to get off, she hasn't bothered to change it

Shit design.

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>>378721370
>>378721470

There's more to character design than just looks, you know.

>>378721507
Why does she have a mummy arm?