>this children's game from 2006 has better boss fights

>Children's game

Hmmm nope it has several philosophical themes and competent writing that will go over any kid's head while pplaying it. Definitely not for children

Anyone have that webm comparing how KH is just mashing one button bs XV?

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>>378665208

>>378665461
Alright this will be good shitposting bait for the future, thanks.

>>378665726
what i find hilarious about it is that Noct is barely doing any damage in that entire webm outside the warp strike, but i guess xv-kun needed something to fight back with

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>>378665726
>the future

Shut down the op for awhile

>>378664646
>>378664767
too bad kingdom hearts is faggot shit

>>378665926
That's what I was thinking too. You can do all kinds off unnecessary flashy shit in KH too. I wanted to like FFXV a lot more than I did, but the combat was so fucking weak.

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>>378666145
>having such shit taste
please stop it anon

>>378665926
someone needs to make a super autistic flowmotion webm or something

>>378666145
found the heartless

>>378666245
same here dude. i played ffxv yesterday to try out the timed hunt after playing about 20 hours of kh2 and it's even more boring than it was before

>>378666437
i cant wait for all the kh3 webms

>KH2 Final Mix came out eleven years ago
>KH3 is three years away.

Might as well delay it for the 20th anniversary of the series...

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>>378666571
"Wrong."

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>>378666402
>playing games with mickey mouse and goofy in them
can't get much gayer than that

Square still cared a little back then. now not really, their business model for the past decade has been "just fuck my shit up, bro".
Their games are so ass now that they are making a big fanfare of a FFXII rerelease.

>>378666571
we'll probably get 3 next year and a final mix and collecter's compilation on the anniversary.

>>378666803
>A final mix

that'll be a DLC.

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>>378666676
it's a lot more than that anon and their bickering is pretty cute

>>378666751
no.

>>378666872
yes but they'll also do a retail rerelease. like with most games these days, it's makes a lot of sense financially and it would help sell a complete kh collection if they plan on doing something on the anniversary

>>378664646
I've been playing these games for the first time this year, already finished 1, Chain of Memories and 2. They are just ok, the story is dumb, it throws enemies at you so often that it becomes tediously repetitive, the performances are akward, the music is good though.

>>378666910
>That pic

Nigga let's be honest it's both, and even if the left side is happening it's going to use the right side's artstyle.

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>>378666910
fixed for you

>>378667151
Also, 1 and Chain of memories actually required you to put some thought into some of its combats but 2 is "press-x-to-win: the game"

>>378667307
Sounds like most games out there

>>378667307
Are you implying that KH1 has better combat than 2?

>>378667645
I'm saying it's more engaging.

>>378667307
What difficulty did you play KH2 on?

>>378667880
Normal, same as the previous ones.

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>>378667981
Play it on Critical you fucking casual

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>the same memes over and over again
>after 15 years KHfags still haven't learned to not take bait
I thought this tortured fanbase was good at spotting shit but man I guess some things never change

>>378667981
>kh2 on normal
that's where you made a mistake anon. it's much easier than the others, you should've at least gone with proud

>>378668206
>tortured

Nah we get new games. We ain't no Mega Man fans.

>>378668423
I meant tortured as in mocked, not tortured like Metroidfags

>>378667307
>1
>thought

1 takes less thought than 2. Maybe in the very beginning of 1, but the moment you get Aero, you can facetank everything (except fort Ice titan) and then when you get MP rage, you're basically rewarded for facetanking. And the that's not even getting into how broken Goofy's MP Gift is.

>>378666676
Damn. What happened to Peanut Butter Gamer? RIP.

>>378665461
>casuals watching this will be led to believe that XV has even a fraction of this much player interaction and engagement
Did XV-kun make this? Serious question.

>>378665726
It really is. Made me reply :^)

>>378667981
>playing KH2 on normal.
You're opinion of the game is literally invalid unless you play it on Critical.

>>378668642
>Did XV-kun make this
yes. see >>378665926
i got it in a thread where xv-kun was defending ffxv's combat and saying it was better than kh and dmc 3. the dude is delusional

>>378668642
>Did XV-kun make this?
Yes.

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>steals your commands

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>>378668674
>judging a game based on its default desgined balance.
>invalid
sure thing, anon.

Why has nobody made a game in the vein of KH style boss fights?

DMC 3&4 have very satisfying combat that feels great, but I'm looking for the vein where I have to figure out a fight specifically to beat it, like the data org fights on crit/lv1.

In DMC or the like you can just be very good at the game and generally succeed at every boss fight, but this isn't so in KH2FM.

I say this as DMC and Bayo 1+2 being some of my favorite games of all time, why hasn't there been a bigger effort to engage the player in boss fights ala KH2?

>>378669209
Not him but KH2 is literally a different game on Critical

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KH2 is mahs X+triangle to win. The Handheld games blow it out of the fucking water, these two will kill you in 4 seconds if you don't play smart.

>>378669209
It might be the "default" difficulty, but the game is seriously balanced around the Critical mode option. You're depriving yourself of the definitive experience if you simply refuse to play it on critical.

It's like playing DMC3 on Normal and then calling it a day and proclaiming yourself as a master, but obviously not to that specific extreme.

>>378669349
BBS and to a lesser extend DDD is square+command deck to win, to the point where it's extremely unsatisfying to play as Terra when the bosses were clearly balanced on the hardest difficulty around having the player being able to dodge infinitely for free. Physical attacks being wet noodles is icing on the cake.

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>Buy the PS4 collection off of Amazon.
>Remember that tedius shit to get the Ultima Weapon with the truffles and fusing gems together.
>Remember the superbosses you need to beat in KH1 with the clunky combat to get 100%
>Remember the cringy dialogue about hearts and light and shit.
>Remember the Little Mermaid levels .
>Cancel order
Was this the right thing to do?

>>378669242
i feel the exact same way. i just finished the zexion silhouette fight today and i really enjoyed how dynamic it was.

i think it might be because they're challenging to design. and in the case of dmc, most people just want to do combos and not figure stuff out. i think the closest we'll ever get to the kh tier boss in a character action game is the bob barbas fight from DmC. but it would definitely need to expanded upon instead of him just having the same attack patterns.

>>378670193
Frankly, I see no difference between either picture.

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>>378667250
Fixed and remastered for you.

>>378669349
Nigga, you can literally spam Balloonra in 3D and then a cure every once in a while to completely decimate every enemy and boss in the game with zero effort.
In BbS the balance is even worse because they give you eight thousand ways to completely avoid damage (unless you're Terra), with the Surge moves being busted, Shotlocks being extremely easy to pull off, highly damamging and granting you full invincibility while casting, as well as your dodge roll that has so many I-Frames that it puts Dark Souls 3 to shame, the game might as well be called "Mash Square until you see a one second opprotunity and repeat till dead."

>>378670313
lmao

>>378669209
Even fucking Bayo or DMC is almost a differnet game on normal or even hard. Normal in KH is basicly casual mode/ kids mode.

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>>378664646
He seemed pretty proud of it.

>>378669349
Man i love playing smart
>*spams ballon or surges

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>>378670579
>All you need to do is acquire this one thing out of a hundred that you need to breed a specific monster and train it for 2 hours so you can get this one skill the trivializes the boss
>Easy right I figured that out all on my own

>>378669759
Well, they're optional in KH2

>>378668206
If they were good at spotting shit they'd stop eating it.

>>378670809
You mean ballonra? You can find 2 of them for free really early though and can even buy them after a few worlds

>>378669242
Because they're hard to design. The original KH2 only had 6 of the Organization members. It took another year to implement the 7 others.

>>378670980
Or, most likely, you wouldn't know about it, play the game like a normal person and get stuck because you can't go back once you fight YX.

I know your type, reads about how to get the most broken shit before even playing the game, and then abuses it endlessly. Absolutely disgusting.

>>378666676
Mickey Mouse is a faggot I'll give you that

If you hate Donald Duck or Goofy, you're a faggot.

>>378664646
>how did nomura do it?
He has that magical Vietnamese game dev talent.

>>378670809
You can get Balloon magic and the Surges at the very beginning of the game. They're extremely easy to obtain and buy, and later on they're buyable too. Also, both are by far the best abilities in the game where in most videos you'' see someone stack them for late game boss fights. Like out of your 8 command slots, 6 would be balloonra/ga/surge and two would be curaga. Not to mention that stacking magic/attack hastes basically remove the opportunity cost of the skills, and are also easy to obtain.

>>378671132
>193
i hope this is part of the reason why kh3 is taking so long. even a slight improvement over kh2 would be enough for me

>>378671248
You act like you have to be a fucking genius to find good commands. I played DDD day one and used mostly ballon after a few hours, that's what happens when a game with the same mistakes aka BBS existed before

>>378671339
ignore that quote, idk what happened

>>378665461
Did they record the KH segment on easy mode or something? I'm pretty sure the revenge value generally won't let you pull gay shit like that without fuckery

>>378671329
>>378671431
So I take it you've never actually fought any boss without cheesing it? What makes you think you get to have an opinion about them?

>>378671456
It's just weird xv-kun cherrypicking, he didn't even do the KH video himself, he just took a YT video and for XV of course used his own gameplay with 100 warp strikes and airsteps hat make no sense

>>378667307
Actually anon it's triangle not x

>>378669759
if you're trying to 100% it yeah. If you're just trying to play through and experience the entire game no.

>>378671549
If the game gives me the option to make it easier then i will use it, if i want DDD bosses to be challenging then i'd have to stop using 90% of the commands in the game and even then the bosses still have no consistent stagger and just attack whenver they feel like it. Don't even try to defend the combat system in BBS and DDD, they know exactly why they go back to the old shit with 0.2 and 3

>>378671248
It doesn't take a rocket scientist to realize that one of the dream eaters, specifically a Jesaboky, which is one of the early game dream eaters you can make, can supply you with the Balloon spell, and that you can create them effortlessly to obtain more balloon spells for cheap. All you need is a basic level reading ability. I played 3D blind, and one of my first spells was Balloon and I was easily able to make or obtain multiples of it becasue I try about abilities and through simple deduction, was able to see that Balloon magic was by far better than every other skill in the game.
>>378671549
I did. I fought bosses with and without, but if the games entire balanced gets fucked by one spell, I'm going to simply comment on that fact.

>>378665461
>beat enemy the lazy way
>beat enemy in the most convoluted and pointless way

Totally not biased or anything. I mean you can play DDR with the D-pad, or you can play DDR with the dance pad.

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>>378668224
>>378668674
>>378669342
critical makes the game EASIER, the bonus abilities the game throws at you and extra AP is completely worth dying faster because there are a million and one ways to very easily avoid damage in KH2 and because of how stats work even exp 0 barely slows you down, with the main drawback being no support abilities and not level 1 stats

kh1 is overall easier but it had more depth to it's mechanics and it's enemy design

>>378665461
Why does the camera keep turning away from the enemy on FFXV?

>>378672335
As long as you pick staff and get cure you have to try really hard in KH1 to actually die. The whole MP system is broken

>>378672335
>it had more depth to it's mechanics and it's enemy design

Lie to yourself all you want, anon, but don't lie to us.

>>378672565
You misunderstand, the camera IS the enemy in FFXV.

>>378672565
For some reason the devs can't design a good autolock, even the existing autolocks breaks as soon as the enemy is basicly out of sight too fast

>>378671549
Sorry bud, it's not cheesing if its well within the design and intention of the developers. Only dummies who like to force 8000 self imposed rules for bragging rights call intentional mechanics "cheesing" It would only be cheesing if you used and abused glitches to bypass bosses/areas. For example, abusing the Lt. Col. Kilgore glitch in Bayonetta is cheesing because normally the weapons don't act in the way they do when preforming the glitch, and far exceed every form of damage in the game. Simplying using the command deck as intended is not cheesing.

>>378672617
Don't get me wrong, KH1 is extremely busted, especially the magic, but KH2 is just as broken if not more just because of the sheer volume of shit you have access to and the generally higher damage sora can put out

>>378672641
Let me give you an example. The first maleficent fight has her sitting on a floating platform that's generally out of your reach as she flies around shooting magic and summoning annoying enemies. You can try to snipe at her with spells or smack the platform until it falls over, but there's a better way.

Throughout the level before this boss there are a bunch of chests that are flying in the air similarly out of reach that you're supposed to use gravity on. Nothing in the game tells you this, you're just supposed to figure it out. It works on maleficent too to instantly ground her platform and again nothing tells you this, you just have to think about how it would make sense and apply the skill you picked up earlier to the boss. This isn't especially mind blowing or nessicary, but it's a neat thing.

In kh2 none of what I just said would happen. Instead you'd press triangle when the game arbitrarily decides it's time and a cutscene would play where sora does a billion flips and slams her platform into the ground so you could actually damage the boss.

There's a dozen examples of stuff like this. Compare how frequently shadows in KH1 fade into the ground vs KH2 where they just kinda stand there and get killed, or how KH1 soldiers and neoshadows actively try to sneak up on you and have a variety of attacks that have different block/deflect timings while they again just kinda stand there in KH2 and charge up an attack that you can instantly negate by hitting triangle

Speaking of deflect, in KH1 that was actually pretty important and it was based on what keyblade you had equipped. In kh2 this barely matters between the new broken guard and reflect and the mechanic of weight doesn't exist anymore.

>>378673397
I just summoned geenie and used stop for maleficent, once i noticed that stop works on one boss i tried it on all of them, it's broken especially in combination with fire or summons

>>378673397
>In kh2 none of what I just said would happen
You mean, like in the Mushroom XII fights? Or the Cave of Rememberance? Or Port Royal's 2nd Boss fight?
Anyways You have Gravity before Hollow Bastion, and the game specifically tells you that you can use Gravity to lower the exclusively used platforms in that world to obtain the chest on them. Now you see the very same platforms in part 1 of her boss fight. It's simply just putting 2 and 2 together.