Is Symphony of the Night worth playing? Never played it, but

>>378589853
I'm re-playing it right now, it's loads of fun. Give it a shot OP

Yes, it's fun. Extremely flawed but fun.

Not the first game in the series to start with though. I recommend the original NES game or Super Castlevania IV first, then Akumajō Dracula X before this.

Yes you fucking retard.

>shit loading times
>boring level design
>unimaginative builds

If you're into pretentious pixel graphics and
>muh deep filawsufy
Too bad /v/s favorite game is disgusting indie shit

>>378591008

>trying this hard

Yeah, OP. It's a timeless classic. I agree with the other anon who said you should play some other Castlevanias too.

Castlevania III, and Bloodlines. Rondo of Blood is good to play before SOTN since the stories bleed together.

>>378589853
Yeah it's great.

>>378591008
>boring level design
>builds
>pretentious
>/v/'s favorite game
jfc if youre gonna bother to type it out at least try.

>>378589853
It's one of my favorite games of all time but I know I have some major nostalgia goggles for it. There's a reason it helped kick off what is one of the defining pillar genres of modern gaming, but if you play it for half an hour and dont really like the minute to minute gameplay i wouldn't bother.

>>378590027
>Dracula X before SOTN
Nah.

The first four Castlevania games are very different in style to SOTN, that'd be a jarring transition. SC IV is not metroidvania-style, it's just a standard (hard as fuck and very high quality) sidescrolling action game.

SOTN is in my opinion the best game in the series, but certainly the best that have the metroidvania style

>>378590027
What are its flaws?

play it just for ost
https://youtu.be/jaxVcPBBcg0

Anyone know what the best version to play is?

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>>378589853
I one of the /v/'s cult classics, play it or die you fucking faggot.

>>378590027
Is there a point to lumping sotn with the rest of the castlevania franchise? Aside from thematic elements and references with enemies and shit its barely attached in terms of gameplay. Saying you should play the older games is like saying you should play FF 1-3 before you play the mmo.

>>378589853
It plays very slowly, it very badly paced, there are too many empty or with very little long corridors, some enemies are just hp sponges and often are north the xp to kill them.
The overall design of the map and flow of the game is very rough around the edges and clearly inferior to later Metroidvania games.

>>378591303
far too easy on the difficulty side for one

>>378589853
It's literally one of the greatest video games of all time.

>>378591383

this anon >>378591008 did have one point in his bait that the OG PSX version's loading times are abysmal, but the PSP version or whatever the fuck doesnt have the original voice track which is kinda part of the charm. I'd say the 360 version or just emulate the original.

>>378589853
Sure but don't expect anything nearly as good as Super Metroid

>>378591008
>>378591402
see this one was better anon. Keep refining it and you might actually hook a couple real (You)'s

>>378591008
Sometimes I wonder if there's a guy who devotes his whole day to baitpost Contrarian opinions. Yes OP, it's a pretty good game that has a lot of design flaws and bugs up its ass, but it's a classic absolutely worth overlooking those flaws

Even the cheesy voice acting has its charm, but that may be nostalgia.
Prepare for hours of fun

>>378590027
I don't know about "extremely." Elaborate.

What is a man?

A MISERABLE LITTLE PILE OF SECRETS

How's the Saturn port of it guys?

>>378589853
Just as good as Super Metroid but with a spooky mansion theme.
After you clear the map the castle flips upside down and you continue playing in an upside down castle

>>378591398

It was after sotn that all other CVs followed the same formula, thus the name 'metroidvania' came to birth.

So you could do like an old style CV, and the metroidvanias.

>>378591784
moonrunes get out

>>378589853
it's a really easy and broken game but still one of my favorites. it's beautiful, has terrific sound design, and has satisfying progression.

>>378591784

I believe it has some hidden content that no other version has, but I also heard it runs like total shit.

Maybe emulating it wouldn't be so bad though?

>>378591784
not good, you can play as maria though thats the only plus and theres a like 2 extra areas

>>378591912
yeah thats exactly my point. It seems silly to prioritize putting older games ahead in play order when really sotn and every game after could be considered a completely different franchise.

>>378591303
It has zero challenge at all unless you purposely handicap yourself, 95 percent of the game's inventory is useless, and the second half of the game is just the first half upside down (and without that second castle the game would be extremely short).

It still managed to be a great game with those shortcomings (and the huge amount of useless items can actually be in it's favor if you like hording, there are some unique one-off weapons you'll probably never use but have their own special effects as well).

It's insanely good. And I'm not saying this as a nostalgiashitter since I played it for the first time this year. Wish I played games like it instead of sports games on my PS1 back in the day.

>>378589853
>90% of everything you'll pick up is useless
>you'll forget you have subweapons a quarter into the game
>magic is overpowered and you have it from the start
>You can kill most every regular enemy before they even get to attack you or otherwise stun lock them.
>You'll end up exploring for no reason since everything you get is useless, seriously your inventory will be full of junk.

Aria of Sorrow is a better game.

>>378591539
A real SotN disc on a real PS1 had virtually no noticeable load times unless you glitched your way through the special hallways super fast. Menus only took a few seconds to load at worst.

>>378592375
?? Holmes i played it on ps1. Some of the loads werent bad but others were awful, and the menu was like hit or miss with freezing.

>>378589853
It's awesome.

Make sure to play Aria of Sorrow and Portrait of Ruin if you like it, they're even better.

>>378592702
I'm currently on Aria of Sorrow since "discovering" this whole series not that long ago. The newer games are better but I wish it was more Dracula and less JRPG story wise. SOTN has such a great atmosphere.

>>378591264
>The game that SOTN is a direct sequel to
>"Nah."
ok

>>378592947
>dude you have to play Fallout 1 and 2 before 3

>>378589853
It's an improved Super Metroid.

>>378591398
They're the same franchise. Also, the older games were better.

>>378593009
>implying people who started with 3 aren't massive fags

>>378590027
I don't think it's extremely flawed. Your first playthrough will be fun because you don't know what the fuck you're doing, like any game. It's adequately challenging.

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>>378591264
>SCIV
>hard as fuck

I will give you that it's very high quality though, dunno why that game gets so much hate despite being a pushover in difficulty.

>>378589853
Presentation is top notch but I lost interest when the castle flipped upside-down.

>>378591748
Already got summed up here >>378592215

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>>378589853
I liked it a lot the first time I played the game, but I tried replaying it a year later and I couldn't enjoy it as much. Anyways, the game is fine, it's got some pretty good sprite work and a sweet ass OST.

I say go for it, it's very easy when compared to other Castlevanias, but you'll probably have a nice time with it. At the very least, the music should stick with you.

>>378592947
>Akumajō Dracula X

Rondo of Blood and Dracula X are sorta different games, if you're talking about the ones on SNES then you're talking about the inferior game.

Either way classicvania titles are usually too hard for beginners, they have to go in knowing that the games aren't like the later entries.

Also 3>1>Rondo of Blood>IV>Dracula X>Bloodlines

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>>378593648
>3
>best

mah nigga

>>378592532
Works fine on my machine.

If you for some reason decide to play 3 to get ready for the animated show coming to NF, play the japanese version instead (Akumajou Densetsu), it's much superior.

>>378593224
The pushover in difficulty is why some don't like it. The whip's versatility makes most sub-weapons redundant (no need for the axe anymore when you can just whip diagonally), and the game doesn't seriously try to kill you until the final few blocks.

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>>378589853
Yes dumbass

I keep getting bored when I get to the reverse castle help

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>>378591784
Pros
-Maria is super cool and has loads of shit that's not in the PSP version
-2 new areas
-A relic in one of those areas that lets alucard move faster

Cons
-Runs like dogshit.
-No really it's unplayable
-takes forever to load something as simple as the castle map
-frame drops all over the place
-backdashing is actually slower because it makes so much dust the game slows down.
-not even emulation can save you

>>378594048
>the easier version is superior
No

>>378594180
Reverse castle takes like an hour or so to clear since you know the way and are super over powered at that point.

>>378594323
It's not easier though?
There's more character actions and the soundtrack is better.
Why would you want to play the worse version?

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>>378589853
>first time I played this was last year
>started from the morning and played in the whole fucking day, even got the best ending

I think it was the first time in forever that I simply sat down with a game and had so much fun with it. The best part was accidentally turning off the Cube of Zoe (I looked at the the item when I got it and I think I just hit off without realizing) and not knowing for three quarters of the game.

>>378594390
>shield rod + alucard shield
>crissaegrim easily available in the library

man that game has some of the most broken weapons in any game ever.

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>this entire fucking thread
Nu-/v/ was a mistake.
4chan should have died when Moot left, not turned into this post-ironic, rotting corpse.

To answer your question OP; the game is considered a classic for a fucking reason. I myself played it only last year for the first time and found it excellent.

>>378594237
I think the novelty of the saturn version alone makes me wanna get it, despite all its flaws. Damn I'm autistic, fuck it though

>>378594418
https://tcrf.net/Castlevania_III:_Dracula%27s_Curse/Regional_Differences

I don't feel like listing them all so read this, some major things though is that enemies flat out do more damage in non japanese releases and there are more enemies in more locations.

>>378594798
Nothing wrong with this thread, fartbreath.

>>378589853
No, never play it.

>>378594798
What are you talking about you retard? The whole thread is saying it's good but too easy, which is exactly right.

>>378590027
Uh you forgot cv3 in there.

Also OP play aria of sorrow on gba and all the ds ones. And the first los.

>>378591383
You can buy it on the ps store for ps3 or use your free trial of ps now if it is on there. Not sure though.

If you have a vita buy dracula x chronicles for 3 games in one drac x. Sotn and rondo. But its not the same as playing the psx version.

>>378591383
PSP has the most content, but it doesn't have the funny translation.
If you just want to play the game and don't care about memes it's the best version by far.
Too bad you need to unlock it first, but that's not too hard.

>>378592215
Well the bosses and finding draculas body parts in the 2nd half are pretty intagral to the game......even if you cheat to beat the bosses with shield rod and aluc shield.

>>378593648
>>378593769
but only if we're talkin' Akumajo Densetsu with that bitchin' VRC6 audio

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2JWRJZwvJo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHG3e0bQe3I

What is THE BEST dracula fight and why is it Rondo of Blood?

>>378589853
Also pro tip before you start...look up to use the special spells of shields and weapons and fireball spell and alucards warp slash move. Shit like that isnt explained in game and these days there are no manuals for it so you qould never know how to do those moves. And the morph specials.

>>378597347
I feel both are good enough to play through. I played through and mastered the American version, then I just played through Jap version with ease while enjoying the new music.

>>378597352
Best Dracula fight is Rondo on the PSP.
He's got a whole nother form and you can't cheap him out with hydro storm.

>>378592875
Well aria is set in the year 2035.....so there is that reason kinda...

But yea i prefer gothic horror CV.... thats why lords of shadow 1 is good and 2 has major fucking flaws...i forced myself to finish 2 sonce i bought it on release day hoping playing as dracual would be even more fun tjan los 1 which i liked.

>>378589853
If I like early asstlevania but not metroid as much will this still be good or is it too different?

I love the level based ones on nes and snes/genesis

>>378598093
It's basically Metroid with skellingtons, so no.

>>378598093
It's very different, but you might still like it anyways.
There's a Richter mode after you finish it if you'd rather play it like an older castlevania, but there's no level seperation or anything like that.

>>378598553
>Richter mode
huh?
Some kind of ng+ or the same shit again?

>>378598447
Well I might be able to get over it but I dont care for the RPG aspects.

Can I ignore the RPG bits and just kill shit in cool scenery?

>>378598093
You would like dracula x psp/vita then and rondo.

>>378589853
You're just asking for it. Get out of this thread before someone spoils it for you.

>>378598748
>RPG aspects
You level up, equip shit and use items once on a while, that's as rpg as it's going to get.

>>378598748
Same map and enemies, but you play as the guy from Rondo and you have all kinds of streetfighter moves to get around.
There's no items, inventory, or leveling so it's very similar to the older games.
It's also a lot harder since you can't heal outside of beating a boss or saverooms.

>>378597050
>PSP has the most content, but it doesn't have the funny translation.


Factually wrong

The Dreamcast version of SOTN is the Definitive King of SOTN

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1NzAsBTxDjI

A NEW FUCKIN BOSSFIGHT

>>378599303
That fight is in the PSP version except she fights differently and actually uses moves she had in rondo.

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>>378598748
>Some kind of ng+ or the same shit again?
when you start the game, (spoilers) you open to a prologue that takes place at the end of the last game. So you control richter at the final battle of the previous game.

if you input your name as "RICHTER" in the name screen, you start the game as Richter. he uses his normal subweapons and his item crashes, and even has some special dpad input moves.

>Can I ignore the RPG bits and just kill shit in cool scenery?

sort of. You don't have to level up or manage stats too hard, because you gain EXP naturally by killing stuff and occasionally a "level up!" pops up over your head.

But you collect items. its the nature of the game. you collect outfit items that affect your defense stats, and you collect weapons and consumable items that refill health or magic.

defense and attack stats are unavoidable. You level up and get stronger by also equipping new shit you find.

fir instance, this is your inventory screen for equippables. You equip a helmet, an armor, cape, a sword and a shield. (some weapons are two handed and take up both slots too, or you can dual wield. remember, you have 2 attack buttons)

I mean its honestly not that bad

>>378599365
>actually uses moves she had in rondo.

garbage. Adult Maria should fight completely differently than Child Maria

she grew up

>>378593009
Yeah that is pretty stupid; you should just play one and two and skip to New Vegas.

>>378599303
You fight maria in the psp version...

>>378595195
After reading most of it, I can't help but think that the JP release comes off as a better version, not to mention that its balance was how the devs intended it to be played.

>>378599551
Why would she forget all her animal summons that do fucking massive damage to everything in favor of kungfu shit she can't hit anyone with?

Of the 2D Castlevania games, Rondo of Blood and Symphony of the Night are the best ones in the series.

>>378599836
HMMMM

What's more cool

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oN_JhW5N0pQ
This

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6b9QKMfUQ-I
Or THIS?

>>378600582
Galamoth has very easy to break AI.
You can do the first with Richter in every version.

Since the fight is shit both ways I'll go with the PSP one since it runs in a stable framerate.

>>378599001
>>378599071
>>378599530
Glad you dont have to manage stats.
I dont really like the idea of changing equipment that much but it might be good I guess.

That second mode sounds cool as shit though

>>378600893
just try the game man. emulate it or something and if you dont like it stop.

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>>378589853
It's shit
Play Hollow Knight instead

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>>378601018
I was going to but now I know I can use the name to try the second one as well even if I dont like the first.

Is Dracula X Chronicles available on vita? Have a pstv but not hooked up and can't check.

>>378601172
Whats your problem with RPGs? I have no idea where you got this idea that Symphony of the Night was a fucking RPG, it's just a 2d action game with some extra stats.

>>378601301
>I have no idea where you got this idea that Symphony of the Night was a fucking RPG
You're joking right?

Look at this and tell me its not an RPG
>>378599530

>>378601172
I mean really if you liked Super metroid you'll like this. same gameplay principles, just slight more indepth rpg equipment shit

>>378601418
The only thing that matters out of anything on that stat screen is the weapon equipped because it changes how you attack.
Everything else is a numbers game you're bound to win because the game is really easy if you can platform worth a damn.

>>378601428
>just slight more indepth rpg equipment shit
Which outside of some specific situations, it just boils down to "equip whatever makes you stronger".

>>378601418
it's not an RPG. The only peice of equipment on that screen that matters is the weapon. You had sub-weapons in previous games, so it's not like multiple types of weapons was a brand new concept in SOTN.

>>378601227
Yes. Bought it like the good goy I was when it was on sale a while back.

>>378589853
yes

>>378601817
Oh shit, might have to get it again. Love it.

>>378601773
>>378601675
Okay I didnt realize all the other gear was so unnecessary, I'm fine switching to a new weapon or sub weapon.

>>378591008

Ohh, a new level of pathetic on /v/. Not astonishing, though.

>>378589853
The later metroid style -vanias improve on it from nearly all ends, so if you've played those, this will feel very dated.

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>>378594237

How old is she in that pic? Her breasts are quite big for a kid, if you ask me.

>>378602313
>Her breasts are quite big for a kid
I had a different school almost every year sometimes more than 1 a year from 4-8th grade and around 6th is when some girls really started showing.

So no they are normal.
Calm yourself its just art.

>>378589853
It's fun but it's p. easy. It's also really long if you don't know where to go the first time.

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>>378602313
Why do people say this shit? Have they not seen how kids look recently? There are kids just hitting 12 and 13 years of age that have huge boobs. This has been a thing for quite some time. Those are tame in comparison.

>>378602584
Yeah I remember girls in the 6th grade would have huge fucking titties. Would beat my dick so hard to them at night before bed

Game is too easy. The leveling system ruins it.

>>378602240
Provided said vanias did not get strangled by Zimbabwe-tier funding.

>>378602313
>>378603119
I like her redesign in DracX honestly better. She looks way too hot. I think there was even a pachinko Castlevania that had a grown up version based on that design and she looked amazing.

>>378603226
Did you read the interview? SotN was made in order to allow casuals/normal people to be able to enjoy Castlevania. Castlevanias are good, but they were always kind of niche because the game would fuck you in the ass if you screwed up. Punishing games like that are not popular (enough).

That is why Megaman games are popular. Anybody can play them.

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>>378602313
She's 12 in Rondo.

She was just an early bloomer and has average breasts for her size by the time of SotN though.

>>378600893
There is not much managing at all some shit is obvoiusly better gear, some os if you like dual weapons 2h or sword and board. Shields have spells attached to them and the shield rod and aluc shield is invincble mode. But you dont get alucard shield until 2nd castle.

>>378603415
>That is why Megaman games are popular. Anybody can play them.

Maybe the X series. I thought a lot of the originals could be pretty ballbusting on certain segments.

>>378603680
All NES Mega Mans outside the very first one were considered easy back in the old days.

>>378601227
Yea and i rebought it for vita. Feels comfy to play on vita with a good set of grips. Its like 10-15 bucks and you get 3 games.

>>378602145
There is specific armors for certain things though. Off the top of my head you need spike bash armor to destroy these spikes on the floor and ceiling to go down a corridor. You can fly and see the gate but cant mist through it without hitting the spikes to get the item behind the door.

>>378594798
>Nu-/v/ was a mistake.
You played it last year for the first time. You ARE nu-/v/ you fuckwad. Meanwhile I played it at launch, and I was one of the anons saying it is too easy and has a redundant second half.

>>378603680
Like >>378603813 said, only the first one.

Any other Megaman was easy even on 6-8 years olds, like I was at the time. If you want ballbusting, there is always Ghouls and Goblins, or that fucking Nemo game.

It's without exaggeration one of the best games on the ps1.

>>378604698
and it almost didn't come out in English due to Sony being anti-2D for most of the PS1's life.

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>>378603457

Uhh, nope. Those boobs are not average, my friend.

Hopefully the netflix show does well enough that Konami has a moment of sanity and creates a new Castlevania game thats good before relapsing back into pachislot.

>>378589853
I will say that SotN, especially in the inverted castle, doesn't really "flow" all that well. It's kind of annoying when you're constantly having to use movement upgrades to move around, rather than having them as barriers to entering the current area. I think literally every GBA and NDS game did this better.

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>>378592702
>Portrait of Ruin

10/10 taste

>>378589853
It was the first of the Metroidvanias, and is still the largest/longest/probably best.

>>378596385
>And the first los.
Opinion discarded

>>378591998
You know, that's something that's a bit surprising to me. Take one scoop of modders and one scoop of SotN fanboys, and you'd think someone would have made a patch for the PSX version that adds at least the two additional areas by now.

>>378608763

Didn't the PSP version do that?

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Aria of Sorrow is my favorite game. SoTN is 2nd. Does that make me a pleb?

>>378609206
There are no pleb choices when it comes to castlevania.
Outside of LoS that is, but do those even count?

>>378609305

I dunno. Despite what some people will try to tell you there's really no defending the N64 games

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>>378609378
Carrie a cute.

>>378609378
It takes a refined pallete to like the n64 castlevanias.
I appreciate what they were trying to do, but they really did fuck up in a lot of areas.

At least the characters were good.

>>378609558

Yeah, okay. Ill give it to you.

>>378592215
The second Castle has completely new enemies and new traps though, trying to act like it's just "more of the same" is just dumb.

Also a lot of the equipment stays viable, but largely because of the game's low difficulty. Like you could use at least half the weapons in the game for the entire duration.

>>378592353
>you'll forget you have subweapons a quarter into the game

Did you not use axes to beat Beelzebub? Aria's really good though.

>>378609378
Eh, the rushed initial version was a letdown, but Legacy of Darkness was pretty legit. Moreso than any of the other 3D games, at any rate. If you exclude the LoD alpha build, LoD is the peak and then things just get progressively worse over the years, the same way Sonic has. The best 3D one was the first because they tried to fit in as much of the old game as possible, then as time went on and they tried adapting to the potential strengths of a new subgenre nothing translated well or was eventually lost entirely.

Why are there so many Castlevania threads lately?
Anyways DIE SHANOA

>>378610242
Because some days you just don't feel complete unless you take mirror photos of yourself posting with the handle of a bullwhip inserted in your rectum.

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>>378610242
>Why are there so many Castlevania threads lately?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iIMrFnl5NiA

>>378610108
Curse of Darkness is a pretty good game, as far as 3D Castelvanias go. With a few tweaks the game could have been awesome.

>>378609206
Aria of Sorrow is as close as it gets to SotN 2, so naw, thats perfectly understandable

>>378589853
i've played through it at least 5 times, it's amazingly fun

>>378608420
LoS 1 is the only good 3d castlevania. Ive played almost every cv game save some obscure shit and spinoff crap. Fuck i even finished the 64 games and ps 3d games which sucked. Mirror of fate was the worst out of all the los stuff by far.
But whatever if you cant enjoy los for what it is. To each their own. Los 1 is a long game with 2 dlcs....anyone who merely writes that game off i highly fucking doubt they finished even half of it....there are some hard puzzles in it also that break up it up nicely and the castle is well done....unlike in los2.

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>>378611417

Im mostly just salty LoI bumped Sonia out of canon. I wouldn't really mind so much if it was a better game or if the story was good or if Leon wasn't such a ponce but it wasn't, it wasn't and he was

>>378610394
I forgot this was a thing
So what is this about? Was that Sypha?

>>378612487
>So what is this about?

Castlevania 3

>Was that Sypha?

I would imagine so

>>378593648
Fuck, that's exactly my tastes.

>>378612554
Cool
Castlevania 3 is the best

>>378612070
sadly, the LoS2 Alucard DLC was actually really good. It was what the whole game should have been. but that doesnt prevent LoS2 from being about 30% good and 70% shit.

the castle stuff is good, the city stuff is awful.

And the ending made me legitimately angry.

How does playing PSX disc SOTN on PS3 affect gameplay/graphics and stuff?

>>378613287
>And the ending made me legitimately angry.

I didn't play, what did they do this time?

>>378593224
I agree anon I was also confused considering SC IV is one of the easiest Classicvanias. I don't hate the game but the boss fights are incredibly disappointing.

>>378614882

only one I ever beat in one life and I am not good at these games at all

>>378614882
Play Bloodlines. It has some pretty great music, boss battles, and is all around a better game

Best castlevania with best main character. You won't regret it. Remember that most swords have unique moves with certain fighting game esqu button inputs.

>>378613287
I should get the dlc when im bored sometime. Like you said the castle stuff was fine. The stealth blew.....so fucking boring and unforgiving in the slightest at some points. The new city shit was fucking awful as well as the pharmacuetical company story....like really wtf were they thinking?

Ill get the dlc sometime...just so i can finish it off...i was so let down by los2 i just wanted it to be over.

>>378615759
That's impressive, anon.

>>378615805
I like what I've played of Bloodlines but I never beat it because it glitches out when I play it on arcade stick on my Everdrive

>>378589853
damn, the price on this is pretty high on ebay!

>>378616510
Sounds like something specific to that. I've never had an issue on the Genesis or an emulator.

>>378616837

its like 6 bucks on PSN

>>378613637
>I didn't play, what did they do this time?
remember how 2 was supposed to be the grand finale to the LoS games?

everything was building up to this finale, Gabriel vs Satan round 2! The game was also building up to the idea of Gabriel being tired of his immortality. That he clearly wants to die.

well, here's the final boss and the ending.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0645DdDfCY4

fuck.

At least the Death fight was worth the wait

>>378605781
>by sotn

>>378617014
good to know. plus I can't see a lot of PS1 discs aging well.

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>>378611286
Still mad.

>>378592215
The game was far longer than previous Castlevanias even without the reverse castle and it's not like the reverse castle doesn't add completely new enemies, bosses, items, etc...

The difficulty gets fucking hard after belmont.

>>378589853
love these games the nes is best

>>378590027
>>378591435
>>378592215
>Extremely flawed because it's far too easy
Except it's still fucking hard in the second half? Yeah it might be easier than previous castlevanias but it still gets fucking challenging and the first part being easy is a good way to get used to using the shittons of options the game has.

>>378589853
>What does /v/ think?

ive been playing vidya since about 1986, i have owned just about all systems, written for game websites, interviewed developers, i have work included in some retail gaming stuff, and i generally consider my opinions critically more well-informed than average

SoTN is the best pure single player game of all time

>>378618752

Im not sure Giant torso vania is a whole lot better

>>378597648
>When you do a flawless run of Dracula for the first time.
God I love Castlevania so much

I've never played Castlevania for more than 10 minutes. What should I start with? I'd prefer one that's challenging, or at least not easy. A good hard-mode romhack of SOTN would be cool, for example.

>>378589853
Just remember - Richter ISN'T last boss.

>>378622183

Goddamit, Rich. You even fail at being the villain.

>>378621506

Well what do you prefer? Level based games or explorations. Gonna be honest the explorey ones aren't as easy as people pretend but they're not exactly a traditional challenge either.

Could always play the first one. There are worse ways to kill an after noon

>>378621506
try Order of Ecclesia. it's not newcomer friendly but it's way more challenging than SotN

>>378589853
It's probably the easiest Castlevania of all time but it's still ok.

>>378592215
>95 percent of the game's inventory is useless
it's also broken as fuck with some shit being hilariously op

>>378589853
one of the best ever

>>378619570
Yes and no

Certain bosses can be difficult in the Inverted Castle unless you have certain equipment, then they're easy as fuck.
Like fighting Beelzebub without the heal from poison damage Circlet is fucking bullshit, but once you get it, pretty simple fight.

>>378622945
>shield rod + alucard shield
Lol what the fuck were they thinking? Kills any enemy in 3 seconds or less.

>>378619570
>Except it's still fucking hard in the second half?

It's not unless you purposefully limit yourself. Even if you don't go out of your way to level up or get rare weapons like With Holy Water any enemy on the ground is no problem. Thanks to bat and mist you can always escape if the enemies get too challenging. There are savepoints that restore health everywhere. Most enemies barely do any damage because of the diamond and later walk armor. By that time you also have tons of health. Money is everywhere so you can buy tons of potions. Then there is also the sword familiar that helps you.

Galamoth and Dracula are the only challenge.

>>378591784
pros
>has extra content
>saturn controller is more comfortable for 2d with a superior dpad
cons
>runs like shit
>loading into the menus take forever
>doesn't have actual transparencies like most saturn games because of lazy devs
>more graphical glitches overall
Playstation version is the superior version.

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>>378593648
>3>1

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>watch the playthrough done with one of the main designers/creators behind SotN
>really interesting insight into some challenges and weird shit about making the game
>have to suffer through a gril playing that's really, really bad at the game despite claiming it's one of her favorite games and is why she got into vidya games business

>>378623774
link?

>>378623864
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bqheYYeA4k4

>>378623726
This Pepe knows what's up.

>>378591383
Emulate the original the 360 version changed some of the drop tables.

>>378623864
One of my favorite factoids I learned from it is that they originally had a VA reading the opening but it was so terrible and they had no time to hire another one to give it a go that they had to ship it as is. If one can imagine that it was so bad compared to the rest of SotN's legendary original voice acting

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I love Maria!

>>378624264
Even Judgement!Maria?

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>>378624387
Yes.

>>378624387

Look nobody got out of judgement clean, okay. It's not fear to single anyone out.

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so how long do you figure it took for Johnny to wise up and pop that cherry

/v/ hates everything, why are you even asking

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>>378624454

That is not proper Owl treatment

>>378589853
Yeah it definitely is, would recommend the 360 version due to much better loading times if thats an option for you. The game is really great but its biggest flaw is how easy it gets later. If you spend a decent amount of time exploring for upgrades (which you absolutely should) the second half of the game is completely trivial. I didn't even spend a huge amount of time exploring and the last few bosses I fought including Dracula were hitting me for 1 point of damage.

The game just needs to be more difficult as it gets extremely easy later on, still very much worth playing though.

>>378626184
PoR had a tuxedo, wedding dress and engagement rings as equipment so not too long I guess.

It hasn't aged well, and Aria, Dawn, Portrait and Order all iterated upon it and surpassed it in every way. There's very little challenge in SotN, as balance wasn't in the devs' vocabulary.

>>378627798
The best version of SotN is the PSP version included with Dracula Chronicles X. It has all the additional content of the Saturn version, and comes with a new translation and voice work as well as consistent 60 fps and zero loading times. 360 is just a port of the PS1 version with no extra content or localization work.

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>>378623928
How absolutely casul.

>>378628021
Wait how do I access the saturn areas?

>>378627943
>It hasn't aged well, and Aria, Dawn, Portrait and Order all iterated upon it and surpassed it in every way.

I don't know how much I agree. I mean from a sheer size stand point alone SoTN is still pretty hard to top. The amount of detail they put into that game is astounding. So many details that you can miss for years, monsters both big and small that exist only in the most out of the way places.

You don't see that kind of shit these days

>>378591654
thanks

>>378628021
>It has all the additional content of the Saturn version
It doesn't. Even Maria mode is different.

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>Playing for the first time
>Know the other familiars are better but stick with the fairy because she's the cutest

I didn't play it until around about 2011.
I was absolutely loving it and beat Richter as the final boss fight and was happy to have played such a good game, even though it had some balancing issues.
Then I found out that there was a whole second castle and was even more excited.
I never even finished that boring piece of shit inverted castle. Fuck, I just hate that thing.