what scratches the itch for you /v/? inbefore "gw2"

>>378549136
Literally nothing, and probably nothing ever will

>>378549408

Sounds about right.

>>378549136
Just play GW1. It's still a great game.

>>378550308
>content is tuned for 4-8 people everywhere

>"j-just use henchmen!"

no.

I dick around in RPG Maker trying to mimic Guild Wars 1 skills and then cry knowing it still pales in comparison and no one will play my game anyways.

>>378549136

I've tried to fill the emptiness, but nothing has ever felt right.

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>you will never reach the realm of torment during the launch month of Nightfall again and fail the missions dozens of times with PUGs
just end my life already gaming is dead

>>378550938
>you will never scam people by dying the flame dragon sword blue and saying it's the ice version ever again

>>378549136
D&D 4E

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Nothing. I went to run around in pre-searing some weeks ago for a massive nostalgiatrip.

Secret World had a somewhat similar skill-system, actually a more freeform one since the game was classless and it had 8 active abilities and 8 passive abilties -builds. You'd think this would do it.
The problem was that not a whole lot of builds you could do were useful. Some skills just were way better and some synergies were just completely underpowered.
Also the PvP was complete ass. Like probably the worst PvP in any mmorpg ever and that's no good when you come from a game that probably had the best mmorpg PvP ever.
Fun world and story to play through but it's nothing like GW.

>>378549136


path of exile i suppose desu senpai

nothing even comes close so why bother

>>378551172

Well Secret World is getting remade-and-relaunched sometime this year, so there is slight hope.

No there isn't, it's probably going to die harder the moment it turns f2p.

>>378551447
I know but they're not reworking it to be like GW either.
I really like TSW so I'm enthusiastically waiting for the relaunch. I hope it does well, the writing is genuinely great and I enjoy the world.

>>378551356
>desu senpai
wtf i dont remember typing this

I actually just rolled up new characters with a few friends to play through Prophecies. We're all running some pretty wacky class combinations, so it should be fun. I haven't played in probably five years, but I have enough resources on old characters that I don't have to do any work for armor and shit, which is nice.

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>>378549136
>mfw GW2 made the Charr good guys
ASCALON DID NOT GET DESTROYED FOR THIS!

>>378551721
back to whatever reddit you came from newfag

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>>378551812
>TrannyWars2 lore
>canon
nah

>>378551812
>all charr were always bad
I don't claim GW2 did them any good, but ascalon was charr land before humans came
Flame legion were always dicks though.
EotN already had you deal with the charr.

>>378551721
U need to go back faggot

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>>378552089
>I don't claim GW2 did them any good, but ascalon was charr land before humans came
Can you tell her that they deserved what they got? CAN YOU?

hey I'm playing guild wars right now, the only part that still has people in it anyway.

RA

Everybody's always talking about PvP, but I've always been really enamoured with the PvE. Going through such diverse environments in Prophecies on my first playthrough was so nice. Then getting to Cantha for the first time. And heroes ensuring that the game would be playable even after the player base has moved on.

I'm sad to think that the servers will be shut down some day, and that the source code will probably not be released for private servers to carry on the legacy.

>>378551812
#notallcharr

>>378552341
Fuck off, stupid mouse.

>>378549408
Second. As much as I wish it wasn't true, MMORPG is truly a dead genre.

>>378551721
fuck off retard

>>378554239
The game was the whole package, something we rarely see anymore.

>tfw always see threads about this game but missed out on it and always wonder what it was like

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>>378549136
I have given up on RPG and MMOs. Only 4X now.

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>>378551812
>he picked Kurzick

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>>378552089
Ascalon was literally the promised land of the humans! Promised by the literal gods!

>>378557367
Her great great grandson or some shit is gay for a Charr.

>>378557634
I'm not even mad. At this point, shit like this is expected.

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>>378557345
>he picked Luxon

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>>378557634
Goddamn. Who what?

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>>378549408
this desu ;_;

>>378551072
Fag

>>378557367
It turns out Gods were evil all along, Balthazar was trying to destroy Tyria in last gw2 episode

>>378558131
We don't know if they're all evil.

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>>378556936
>you have a skill bar that holds 8 skills, 7 if you are taking a ressurection signet
>you have a dual class that each have 100+ skills each, so you have 200+ skills to choose from
>all content is instanced
>can make an instant max level max gear pvp character if you wish and can unlock skills that way
>probably the most balanced rpgpvp ever
>tons of meme builds over the years
>the starter area is as half as big as some mmo's entire maps, and it all crumbles away in a surprise twist and that same area now becomes a new zone which is still less than 1% of guild wars' 1's map area
>game was huge, tons of terrain and content variety built in such as multiple forms of pvp
>henchman for when your friends weren't online
>heroes for when henchmen couldn't cut it, basically they are customizable henchmen with skillbars you can tweak and activate making you a 1 man dnd party
>you can now make your own characters into heroes (although they make you pay for this, but then again it is a dead game they are maintaining )
>storyline wasn't peppered with shitty allusions to nerd culture like wow, even the asian expansion factions didn't pander to otaku/anime faggots like everyone expected, the nightfall expansion didn't pander to niggers, and the nordic expansion wasn't just some generic vikingshit asatru shit
>storyline was actually rather interesting, with side quests and characters that are reminiscent of souls games in how they drew you into the story and made you feel about people without being verbose
>quests were generally not generic kill X or collect X shit, but generally more exploratory based
>game was based around exploration as every town had something to offer whether it was a skill trainer, or new armor, or quests that rewarded skill
>most or all content could be "run" meaning you could just pay a fee for someone with the proper build to beat it for you meaning that there was a million ways to earn currency and alt leveling was a joke

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>removing all the complex and FUN skillbuilding
>removing monks
>everyone playing ultra glasscannon because everything is timegated

idk why i Keep reinstalling GW2. probably the waifus

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>>378558131
>Trust in metal, not false gods
I should have seen this coming.

>>378558131
To be fair, could have been Menzies
But GW2 team is full retard so who knows

>>378557852
Here's a poem for you
"I am Kurzick
I am gay
I lose to Luxon
All of the day"

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>>378558203
>tfw like 200 skills per class after the expansions
>its replaced by "PICK YOUR WEAPONS XDDDD THESE ARE YOUR 5 SKILLS NOW" in gw2

>>378558203
>the starter area is as half as big as some mmo's entire maps
No way dude, pre searing was tiny.

>>378558741
nigga you gay

>>378551172
Not necessarily you but a lot of those underpowered synergies was because of pvpers bawwing and Funcom listening to them. They lost half their players with one nerf patch.

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>>378556936
>>378558203
(cont'd)
>almost all enemies used the same skills as players meaning, pve was basically just training for the pvp endgame which was perfect
>the pve endgame was 8 players maximum meaning you didn't have to organize 40 nerds in a ventrilo to achieve great things, you just needed 7 competent, normal people
>you didn't gear for hard content, you adjusted your skill bar
>max level armor is rather trivial to achieve, but the coolest armor sets were not, meaning you could play casually and be effective or no-life it for the aesthetic glory and respect
>unique proactive heals (aka enchants) meant that reactive mindless healbotting was virtually non existent
>4 different types of melee weapons all with different skills, benefits, drawbacks, and playstyles
>armor dye before it was a thing in other games
>elite skills you had to hunt down random spawn elites for and kill and capture their skills
>minimap that actually showed you the enemies meaning navigating an area was as much about being able to kill the mobs as it was keeping your aggro radius away from patrols
>areas were beautifully designed, crafted, and had amazing graphics for it's time
>character creation was fairly good and advanced for it's time
>arenanet customer support was god tier at the time and did more to support and foster community growth and cohesion than any developer ever
>nearly ZERO power creep even after 3 expansions, max level never increased once
>guild halls before it was a thing
>24/7 world pvp areas before it was a thing
>huge variety of international players meant it wasn't just amerishits and canacucks drooling on their keyboards
>probably the most balanced CC system
>fucking mesmers
>mostly friendly, mature playerbase who were willing to help each other out
>the best buildcrafting maybe ever
>importable BUILDS (copy a code from the internet and paste it and it puts the skills on your bar and redoes your attributes)

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>>378558404
The Paragons of GW2 get their power from atheism and are enlightened by their own intelligence.

>>378558131

Are you fucking serious? These faggot writers that didn't even work on GW1 are taking complete liberty with the lore and fucking it up? Oh my word if this is true I'll be so pissed.

>>378560264
It's 100% true. Balthazar gets killed by 2 lesbians and the player character. Some people are theorycrafting that it was Menzies because there is a Menzies sword on the cash shop though.

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>>378559916

>>378560441

So why was he supposedly trying to destroy the world?

>>378560441
Stop lying, he's not dead.

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>>378560264
>>378560264

>>378560623
He doesn't care for the world or humanity. He also cackled a bit and twizzled his moustache.

>>378560664
What's your source? Is it the cash shop again?

>>378559916
>nearly ZERO power creep even after 3 expansions, max level never increased once

No. Izzy couldn't balance his way out of a paper bag and apparently it got leaked he listened to those fags on guildwarsguru instead of actually playing the fucking game.

Lots of shit was broken at each update, back in Prophecies IWAY, Victory Was Mine trappers, Smite monks were quite an overpowered gimmick, even Obsidian flame deserved a bigger nerf. Energy Surge was at levels of drain 12 energy to do 10 damage which was huge. Factions had Aura of Displacement be extremely overpowered and had entire GVG's replaced with them. Nightfall was the end of relatively sensible balance when you got the Ritualist spike, IWAY returning, Broken on release paragons (everything) and dervishes (Avatar of Grenth). Eye of the north saw shit balance practices in the fact that they just made everything they couldn't fix into a split pvp/pve skill like that one smite skill. I'm not even sure how Energy Surge returned to prophecies level after it got nerfed to do less damage.

Why based Balthazar and not Lyssa? ;_;

>>378561080
>meme builds hurt my feefees

>>378561280
She helped him by giving him a magic mirror.

>>378561080
>Lots of shit was broken at each update
And this accidantelly made the game really fun.
I'm not saying this is good practice from the devs, but it still was a happy littel accident.
Broken builds were eventually always patched but FotM shit and constantly changing meta meant that PvP never grew stale.

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I mean, I hate GW2 writting and the progressive sterilization of its gameplay as much as the next guy, but I am honestly sad that what they are getting shit on for is the "SJW danger scream."

Because that shit is barely noticeable in the actual game. There's a couple of lesbians - who are extremely hot bimbos so I am not sure why dudes even complain about those - and some tranny chick somewhere.

The latter one was the most cringe worthy part of all, voiced dialogue for her BOLD TRANSFORMATION and shit.
I'll entirely give you that.

But what is actually friggin' horrible with the game's writting is the constant raping of the lore and the constant focus on bland, crappy cop-outs that try to make the world feel "alive", when in reality just makes it a giant laughable "one dragon per year"-a-thlon.

But of course some insecure little shit has to start screaming SJW!!!!11!! because they whore those things on their twitter media to get upvotes, and you know what that does?
It makes them able to just pull the "racist/sexist/homophobe bigot" card to excuse everything in their shitty ass rape of what could have been a great world buildup.

And it's thanks to your priorities in complaints that they manage to keep pushing that shit.

Post favorite builds, gvg, pve, HA, AB, what the fuck ever.
I called this one, "Listen to my song!" And did it in AB:
Vocal was Sogolon, Fall Back!, Incoming!, Never Surrender, Soothing Memories, Life, Weapon of Shadow, FomF
Giving my team 100% uptime of movement speed was the funnest shit.

>>378549136
Elder Scrolls Online

the story and questing is top notch. Combat is good, not great but Ive only played a duel-wield thief so far.

>>378561592
you forgot about turning eir into a coalburner just to have some interracial cuck shit and a mixed race norn (when black norns MAKES ZERO SENSE AND HAS NO PRECEDENT IN THE LORE) for diversities edge, which is still 80% female

taimi was actually a really good way of putting a disabled person into a game though

>>378561592
>Because that shit is barely noticeable in the actual game.
In the story every character ticks a diversity box. I agree though that if you don't speak to NPCs while out exploring and if you don't play the story, it's barely noticable. I stopped reading at your greentext, btw. TLDR

>>378561809
>ESO
>story anything but trash

It manages to be worse than GW2 in writting and that actually says a lot.

>>378561592
This
I don't give one fuck about the "progressiveness" or "SJW-propaganda"

I dislike 2's writing entirely because the game has fuckall to do with how GW1 was.
I've said this a hundred times before but 2 is just a fantasy mmo that has a vaguely Guild Wars coating.
It might as well had been a new IP.

>>378562010
>It manages to be worse than GW2 in writting
I'll forgive the typo if you give an example that is worse than GW2. It had better be good, by the way.

>>378562010
nice opinion, too bad you are literally the only person who thinks that. go check out every review out there, all 9/10.

inb4 hurr paid reviews because they disagree with me

>>378561809
I liked the build options I had with this game, its what makes it enjoyable to me.

>>378561979

Is a game about angry screaming furries, magical gremlins and mentally challenged salads really an impressive setup to aim diversity in?
Does it even matter if they do?

>>378561956
Too bad Taimi is a really fucking annoying quirky genius-type.
Fuck the entirey of Asura race though. 2 somehow managed to make them collectively dislikeable.

>>378562296
Not sure if you are being purposefully obtuse or just ignorant. I'll make this my last reply to you all the same.

>>378550434
Use heroes or get some friends, retard. There are still guilds and you still have the ability to talk to people.

Hell, you're in a thread talking to people who want to play right now.

>>378562370
yeah they had a good idea and then ruined it by making her a petulant kid. i couldnt think of a more annoying archetype

still not as bad as felicia day tho

>>378551065

This except I did it with pink dye and sold it to girls on my girl character.

>>378562101

I don't even need to go past the fucking prologue.
>Our merry band of racial friends!
>And the douchebag necromancer with intense hatred for humanity, spiky clothes, and from the one race everyone has always hated in the fanbase
>Gather here for this ritual with this powerful item

>YOU
>WILL
>NEVER
>GUESS
>WHO
>BETRAYED US

>>378562428

And nothing of value was lost, it seems.

>>378549136
Pokemon
I actually enjoyed making fun builds and testing them more than actually playing and I can do just that in Pokemon.

>>378562572
>Our merry band of racial friends!
dont see how thats a problem. they are shoving diversity in your face.
>And the douchebag necromancer with intense hatred for humanity, spiky clothes, and from the one race everyone has always hated in the fanbase
hating a game because it follows the canon....you're retarded
>Gather here for this ritual with this powerful item
yep a cliche, every other game book and movie do that. do you know read or watch movies or play any games at all?

extremely weak and autistic /v/ level argument

>>378562572
I grant you that that's bad but it seems WoW writing tier. The Trahearne story arc that came with GW2s original campaign is all about getting cuckolded by a mary sue treeman.

I've never seen any vidya story as bad as GW2 and I likely never will.

>>378562915
>they are shoving diversity in your face.
I meant they are NOT shoving it in your face

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>>378562570
>mfw I scammed people entirely through text chat, pretending to be a girl because I played a female character
I was 13
To my credit I didn't further continue on the road of a charlatan after those couple of times

>>378562915

Oh boy you are one of those. Not a shocker, still a disappointment.

why is guild wars 2 such dogshit lads

if any players are in here why? what the fuck are you doing lmao

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>>378549136
What is it with early 2000s games and punk/edgy female characters?

>>378563082
>Oh boy you are one of those. Not a shocker, still a disappointment.
not an argument. sounds like you ran out of things to say because you got BTFO. next time be ready to troll with more than one reply

>>378563164
tits on the box drew thirsty nerds

>>378562986
orr as an environment was so fkn cool as well. i understand that the point was you were going to join destinys edge and werent going to be king dick (and you shouldnt have really), but then they blew it by having the guy who was be so boring

GW1 wasnt praised until GW2 came out get over yourselves

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>>378563164
She was a necromancer. They literally cut themselves for energy

>>378563175

Yeah. Let's go with that.

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>>378563164
>Eve
>punk
Stop posting, anytime.

>>378549136
>guild wars 1 hd remake
Would you buy it?

>>378563326
>gw1 wasn't praised
Fuck off
http://www.metacritic.com/browse/games/score/metascore/year/pc/filtered?sort=desc&year_selected=2005

>>378563270
>orr as an environment was so fkn cool as well
They had some serious talent designing their zones and the armour sets that came with the box. With sweetfx some places still hold up and those areas were probably made in 2008. They must have fired all that talent though. Every update since release was a bad joke except the floating chink city that I forget the name of.

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Post essential skills

>>378549136
are the GW1 servers shot down yet? QQ TT

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>>378563423
What's there to remake? Game's fine as is even in 2017+.

I would pay top dollar for that Utopia expansion we never got.

>>378563491
yeah, the bazaar, also very interesting

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>>378563775
Can you speak proper English you spaz?

>>378551812
i lost it when they blew up lions arch

what happened in the story recently?

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>>378563330
>I guss I'll play my necro
>join a group
>guys I thought I'd play this build
>wtf dude BiP
>have to battery
Every time

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>>378563571

That's a nice PvE content you have there.
It would be a shame if something...
broke it beyond repair.

>>378563429
Even Colin admits it.

Take off those nostalgia goggles

https://youtu.be/zNlOogD0cDU?t=2019

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>>378563954
>>have to battery
>Every time
u wot?

>>378558131
>>378560441
>>378560731

please tell me this is fake

Is it worth it to get into now ? Even for solo content ?

>>378564113
what the FUCK were they thinking

>>378563954
Did you try out Flesh Golem before they nerfed it? That shit was the best.

>>378564156
Well, you posted the other one.

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>>378564156
Curse Necro best Necro. Fucking love making all the enemies kill themselves. Of course a little help from our friend Arcane Echo always helped.

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>>378564247
Did you also never minion factory? It melted faces in PvE AND PvP for the longest time.

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>>378564327

>>378564165
Did you play Guild Wars? If not then yes, give it a shot. If you did play Guild Wars just leave this thread and forget it.

>>378564327
>>378564156
>>378564113
>>378563954


I had the best Touch necro build, N/W, would use warrior stances to block all attacks while using touch skills to leach off health, worked best in AB

>>378564384
>minoin factory
>Not Glorious Golem Factory for the few weeks it was allowed

>>378564384
Necromances got away with being broken for the longest time. RIP old Soul Reaping and no minion cap.

>>378564247
could've used Plague Signet, Aura of the Lich, Jagged Bones, Flesh Golem, Feast of Corruption, Spoil Victor...

>>378561080
i miss heroes ascent as fuck
best online shit i've ever played

i've started playing it seriously around factions, not long before NF

yeah i remember when rituway came in, shit was insane. problem is they nerfed spirits so hard that the pve ritu play lost its magic for me since you could no longer spirit spam

it was fun tho. especially when you managed to beat a cheeseway with a balanced team

>>378564543
Don't forget Discord nuking

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>>378564492
>touch necros

>>378561440
well i feel like they tried their best to fix balance

i think pve/pvp split was a good idea

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That's some nice balance you have there, shame if anything were to happen to it...

>>378549136
FFXIV

FFXIV is probably GW1's spiritual successor. Even more than GW2 will ever be.

I still miss it....

How could they fuck up the skill system so bad going to GW2? The core of the GW1 system was picking an elite and then picking other skills to complement it. GW2 may as well not have elites with how irrelevant and un-cohesive they are/were.

>>378564543
I know, I know.
Necros were really versatile. Also really fun to play. I just kind of exaggerated with the bip and ss thing since it seriously probably was what I did the most.
BiP because it was so goddamn useful and SS because I also did 55 solo with it.

>>378564946
FFXIV is closer to WoW than GW1 though

>>378564946
Not really, i've been playing FFXIV for years, and its not. There is no build building at all. That being said, in Stormsblood they are turning the PvP at least into guildwars with the pick 9 skills, pick 2 pvp skills for it. I am super fucking excited about that, but everything else, not really no.

>>378561080
That's not power creep.

Who here got to level 20 in presearing?

>>378564946
>FFXIV
>In any way like GW1

Are you insane or just mentally challenged?
Or is it that you want something to fill the void so much that you covered your face with as many blindfolds as you could and just latched yourself to the first garbage tier WoW clone japan threw at you?

>>378565046
Well, pretty much everything is close to WoW. GW1 was different because the games were developed and launched at the same time. There was no formula yet to copy.

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stop hitting yourself
stop hitting yourself
stop hitting yourself

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>>378551812
WE WUZ ASCALON AND SHIET

>>378565046
Pretty much but GW2 is even closer to wow than it is to GW1.

FFXIV at least got class dynamics right rather than everything is just a dps.

>>378565314
if class dynamics are all it takes to be a GW1 spiritual successor, most MMOs are GW1 spiritual successors

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What went wrong?

anyone want to start prophecy characters together and go through all the campaigns?

>>378565408
it tried to be a support class but didn't really have much else going for it

>>378565408
Niche support unit, you would see them in HA and GvG a bit but their damage output was on the lower side.

>>378565408
Most of Nightfall, honestly.

>>378565408
Their story unit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxmkAoLC6_4

>>378565636
>>378565552
>Not remembering the broken as fuck OP paragon team builds dominating HoH and GvG
Did they get nerfed that hard in EotN? I stopped playing before it launched.

I jerk off into my GW1 beta box pretty often.

Who wants to play GW1 RIGHT FUCKING NOW?

>>378565854
I forgot my password and I have no idea how to reset it

>>378562548
I never got why they didn't kill off her instead of Eir.

>>378565854

i really want to my dude but the last time someone baited me into this, we played up until the searing and i was left with a level 8 mesmer and some really fucking intense gw1-blue balls that i do not think i can withstand again

does anyone here actually actively play this game still/have an active guild that plays? i would seriously fucking kill for even a 10 man guild to play with that i know will continue playing for longer than 2 days

>>378550434
Two people with heroes can pretty easily do all the content in the game.

>>378566274
>two people with 6 necromancer heroes
fixed it for ya

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>>378561080
Izzy was such a fucking chimp.
I remember that one time when every high end GvGer was screaming at him to fix shit, and he made a facebook post or something about how he was playing TF2.
They actually found the server he was playing on and killed the fuck out of him.

GvG balance was pretty spot on around the Factions championship, though.

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>>378560731
I'll never forgive them. I'm eternally salty about GW2.

>>378565636
what? 1 para was a must have in balanced build

gave speed buffs and blocks for example

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>>378564946
>>FFXIV is probably GW1's spiritual successor.
Only if you're a /fa/ slut and played GW1 as a fashion show simulator.

>>378550434
>Grab Ritualist
>Grab Heroes
>Spirit Signet
>?????
>Win game

Did this with my partner, breezes through Factions like the most laughable, unchallenging thing ever.

Is there an easy way to get mad dosh on GW1 currently?

I remember everyone sitting on stacks of Z-keys, ectos and armbraces like it was nothing and i was struggling to even buy a regular 15k armor set

I want to know what it feels like to be filthy rich

>>378566216
probably because they didn't even want to pay Day for a death scene

>>378566410
Yeah but not many ran balanced, especially after EotN

>>378566274
the only content i didn't do was realm of torment

any advice on that?

>>378566216
Because plot. Eir had a connection to one of the characters on the new cast so they could write something to do with that and BIG EMOTIONAL IMPACT.
Also this >>378566470

>>378565081
Signet of Spirits and Searing Flames were absolutely power creep

Prince Rurik's death was more emotional than everything in GW2 put together.

>>378566527
Can you even solo real of torment?
I remember that shit being way more hard than anything had been in Prohecies and Factions.

>>378566465

I usually just did speed runs of UW

Never again a class as fun as Ritualist, fucking video games.

>>378549408
This. Fpbp, but also fpwp. Life is suffering

>>378566749
>Fall in love with mesmer
Literally no class in another other game ever was based solely around debuffing and interrupts.

>>378566684
solo? nah

im not sure if it is possible with heroes

>>378566823
Back in the days before the holy trinity, debuff was a legit choice along with tank, dps, etc.

>>378566823
Not sure why everything went so wrong and they decided to shit on their amazing ideas and just make Guild of Warcraft 2.

>>378566823
>power block

>>378566823
City of Heroes Controller/Dominator was kind of similar

>>378566985
Name 2 classes that were all debuffs and interrupts. I'll wait, I fucking played everquest and shit.

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>>378566823

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>>378566823
>Literally no class in another other game ever was based solely around trolling your enemy to death
Fucking mesmers

>>378567067
Dirge and Warlock

>>378566623
They were strong but the builds and team builds weren't really any more broken than the stupidly strong team builds we had in prophecies. IWAY, trap bombers, OoB boonprot monks, etc. were all just as stupid.

>>378566883
Yeah I meant with heroes obviously.

>>378567183
Dirge from what?

>1v1 guild tournament
>make a stupidly op necro/mesmer build
>never lose with it. It was just too broken. I wish i could remember it rn
>tfw this guy has to come up with some dervish fuckery to actually beat me once after who knows how long

>>378567067
Banshee
Grigori

>>378567067
Bard
Ranger

Next.

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>>378567163

>>378567371
you mean ffxiv bard or what.

>>378567371
>>378567293
>>378567183
From what games are you referencing?

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I haven't been able to enjoy an MMO as much as this one since I was a kid.

I forced myself to play through Legion. I slogged through XIV's leveling and endgame, hoping that it would eventually become fun. It never does.

I ended up dreading my daily dungeons, because I knew I just hated them and did it for the levels. I came to the realization, "Wait a minute, this fucking sucks and I don't enjoy it."

So I tried this game and was utterly blown away. An MMO that doesn't push me as hard as it can towards endgame, an MMO that focuses on a fun and exploratory leveling experience. Meeting people, customizing my character and theorycrafting new builds. It's the closest thing I have to the magic of early MMOs.

Maybe I'll get bored of it eventually, but god damn this game is fucking fun.

>>378567214
the team builds at least relied on both you knowing what you were doing and your team knowing what they were doing. SOS and SF were the game at its most braindead

>>378567259
i dont know

1 guy + 7 heroes?
i highly doubt that. i tried it but couldn't even get 1 subarea done

basically the ai is too idiot to run out of aoe effects and shit and i cant micro 7 heroes by myself at once

maybe with 2 players , each commanding 3 heroes it can be done but still very hard

>>378567273
from Cerberus

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>>378567384
I hope you remembered your low energy set.

>>378567474
ur mom me lad

>>378567590
>tfw all my energy is suddenly gone

>>378567067
Enchanter and Druid you spastic.

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>>378567669
tfw its all back

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>>378566823
Nothing has ever really captured "that feeling" of playing a Mesmer in GW1 PvP.
Stroll in, assert your dominance -literally- with an interrupt here, an enchantment shatter over there, maybe add a minute of recharge to some fool's favourite skill just to let them all know YOU are in charge of who gets to cast what and when.
Then Power Block the prot Monk and watch them all fall apart.
I fucking LOVED that shit. I want it back. Why can't I have it back?

>>378567820
>autism skill

>>378567590
>Mesmer uses that skill on me, every time, when I'm in my low set
Took a grand total of like 100 damage from that skill over the course of a fight
Realizing the value of weapon sets changed my life. I spent 3 hours talking about it with a friend who played elementalist. God, I miss those mechanics. Are there any other games with weapon sets like that?

>>378567067
Defiler and Coercer

>>378566823
>>378566823
I guess you never played Brigand.

>>378567823
any pvp game where your opponents are too braindead to counter and focus you

Fuck you mesmers. Only way to counter your shit was to learn to be a mesmer and figure out how each of you debuffs exactly worked. And I fucking loved it.

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>>378568006
Counter this fagboy

>>378567557
it is definitely very hard though maybe not impossible with the right builds.

I remember trying and I was able to do the margonite city solo with my heroes, though not other areas

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>>378567902
>Are there any other games with weapon sets like that?
Hell, there are no other games with a system of conditions/buffs/debuffs as well developed and diverse as that of GW1.

>>378567259
sorry realm of anguish was in my head , not realm of torment


realm of torment is soloable, you just need to preapare well skillwise, be very patient and pull carefully

just read the wiki about the strategy in each area

also, lightbringer title, lightbringer gaze , and over fucking powered EoTN title skills help a lot

in this post >>378567557 i mean realm of anguish

>>378568169
City isn't too hard as long as you pull right.
I feel like Foundry and Ravenheart would be impossible with heroes, though.

>>378568226
Life is suffering. I miss my monk so much, I just want to catch spikes with her again

>>378568240
There are rumours about that Guild Wars 2 is going to reintroduce Realm of Torment and the next xpac is Palawa Joko confirmed.

Realm of Torment is now ruled by transvestite evil tree people (they are evil for no reason) and Palawa Joko is a blonde haired bone white man that is oppressing the Vabbians and Istani with his skeletal stormtroopers that wear nazi-style uniforms.

>>378566232
I'll keep playing. I've been wanting to get into an MMO again for the longest fucking time. GW1 is one of the few bastions of hope I still have in this life.

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>>378567669
>try to cast a skill
>diverted
>no matter I got spells
>power blocked
>my sources of damage are gone
>try to get away with something that has escape/survivability utility
>power lock

>>378568498
are you trolling ?

on a side note, i never got why they made palawa unkillable in gw1 story in the first place

>>378568664
next GW2 expansion is confirmed Elona, and in the lore Joko took over the region and fucked it over hard

>>378568664
>are you trolling ?
Mostly, yes. There is a point though and the point is that I wish they would leave Guild Wars lore alone and stick to their homotree OC.

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>>378568103
>activate Dark Apostasy
>use Critical Strike
Pshhh, easy

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>>378552089
>it was there land before so its ok for them to kill thousands :^)

they gud bois THEY DINDU NUFFIN

>>378568781
Palawa Joko will look like Trump. Calling it now.

I AM MAKING A PRE-SEARING CHARACTER RIGHT NOW. ONE OF YOU FAGGOTS BETTER PLAY WITH ME.

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>>378568849
>trying to hit a mesmer

>>378568006
Behind every Mesmer mask was an abused little ex-Monk, crying.
>>378568440
And I just want to Cry of Frustration your spike catching. Or Diversion it.

>>378568781
im looking at gw2 stuff now

did they bring back shiro?

>>378569086
as a stance for the new class, Revenant

otherwise no

>>378569086
Nothing from Cantha allowed. NCSoft was triggered by fusing asian cultures.

>>378550434
I'm working on a third GWAMM with just heroes. If you want to play with players people group of every day for Zaishen quests, faggot. Just admit you don't want to play the old ass game because you're some graphics faggot who wishes he could jump.

>>378569180
>NCSoft was triggered by fusing asian cultures.
That's a confirmed lie, anon (from both IRL asian people and NCSoft themselves). We don't know why they won't incorporate Cantha.

>>378549136
Listening to that original soundtrack by Jeremy soule is the only way

>>378566883
>>378566684
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ifb6pzF08g0

Times have changed, friendos.

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>>378569071
>not having shit ton of unblockable attacks or buffs that make your attacks unblockable
I know your tricks, purplefucker

>>378569360
>Its a lie
>provides no proof
>provides no reason for why it isn't added
Yeah okay buddy.

>>378560441
What
You kill Balthazar's dogs in the heart of a volcano next to Primordius' head
Stop talking shit, it just shows how nobody in this thread has any idea what's going on

>>378569434
Alright, let's take my claim out of the equation. You prove yours.

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>>378569180
yeah i forgot that

>>378569143
oh

also, they decided that the last mursaat was actually... balthazar... what the fug?

>>378569360
>We don't know why they won't incorporate Cantha.
They're doing Tyria and then logically Nightfall's Crystal Desert. No one says they're not going to go to Cantha, there's just no reason to announce it. I really wish the game would die before they rape more lore though.

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>>378569393
>using an enchantment against mesmers
YOU FOOL

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>>378569393

HE (>>378569641) GOT YOU

>>378569180
>NCSoft was triggered by fusing asian cultures.
Source.

Is it too late to buy GW1 for the first time?

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>>378569641
>rips Pious Renewal
>I gain energy and health
>instant recharge
I'm sorry, what?

>>378566823
Mystics and Defilers were healers, debuff and interrupts m8

>>378569836
never too late

but there won't be many people actually playing so fair warning

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>>378569641
If I can't make my attacks unblockable, then I'll just have to make you unable to block my attacks! You are not the only one with Hexes.

>>378569836
Never too late, but hope you like running with bots if you cant find any friends to play with.

>>378569910
>playing Dervish

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>>378569910
A/D
Interesting friend.

>>378569959
Let's see how you like it.

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>>378570013
>he quit before the Dervish overhaul featuring Flash Enchantments

>>378570161
>no other game allows you to call out a target and have everyone hit a button to focus them instantly AND LETS YOU DRAW (DICKS) ON THE MAP

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>>378568103
>>378568849
>>378569071
>>378569393
>>378569641
>>378569959
>>378570094
this shit is why GW was so fun

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>>378569393
Lol, Assassins. Literally kys.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xgl4HAqG7ng
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LA8GKXPeqXQ&t=4s

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>>378570094
Predictable
>uses Disrupting Dagger
Enjoy your 20 second cool down

Hey guys, who wants to play pre-searing with me?

>>378569836
No. I still play the daily zaishen mission and bounty. It's the best way to find players to play with. Of course, you'll have to have hard mode enabled.

My favorite mission to play with others is viznuh square. Especially when it's 16 real people playing

>>378570487
GW is like a friend who died of old age

I'm not really sad or angry that it's dead, i'm just glad for all the years of fun i've had and the great memories and how the game died a slow, clean death (instead of dying because of shitty dev decisions or competition or anything)

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>>378570521
Wouldn't it be a SHAME if that cast failed?

>>378570680
>the feels

sorry anon i can't

>>378570795
But still you miss that friend and want to find a new friend to have the same ammount of fun with,

>>378570986
Disrupting Dagger doesn't target an ally

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>>378570986
SEE, this is the reason no one likes you mesmers

Well played

>>378570986
>>378571093
>>378571126
Oh shit

>>378571093
Oh fuck you are right, I goofed, I was just going for the pun. Fuck it, shatter Hex then as a backup.

>>378571093
I would have said mantra of resolve, but Distortion is already up.

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>>378567480
Yeah but we had broken shit on an individual level as well. Gale hammer warriors back before gale was made expensive and caused exhaustion. OoB boonprot monks with infinite energy thanks to OoB and 3/4 of a second cast time protection spells that were cheaper, faster, and healed more than healing prayer spells in addition to their protection effects. Those were really very dominant builds. I mainly played boonprot back then and even after the huge OoB nerf when monks started going Mo/Me for energy management with that one mantra skill it was still stupidly strong. Gale Hammer warriors were so strong that they overshadowed shock axe warriors, and shock axe was fucking incredible.

>mfw queueing into Fort Aspenwood years later running those builds post-nerf and still destroying people with them

>>378571337
>>378571093
Mistrust could work too.

>>378567590
Trying to heal my frontline in GvG while juking interrupts from the ranger and mesmer with fakecasts and swapping weapon sets to manage my energy pool around the mesmer's e-denial casts was so much fucking fun holy shit. Healing in every other MMO is such a god damn bore, why can't any of them make it the least bit interesting?

Real talk. I don't remember if such skill exists but is there something that can steal Enchantment without attacking? Even outside Assassin profession? If I can't remove Illusionary Weapon via Assassins own skills, might as well take advantage of the dual profession system.

I miss build crafting

>>378571840
Drain Enchant, Revealed Enchant, Air of Disenchant

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>>378571752
>why can't any of them make it the least bit interesting?
Because they assume most healers are bitches that can only handle playing whack-a-mole with a healthbar. So they don't make healing exciting. Which makes only casual players go for healing classes.

Cursed, self-reinforcing loop. It's a miracle GW1 managed to break it with monks and then kept pushing the idea that support is king with ritualits and yes paragons.

>>378549136
Best game. Anything was possible and I mean anything
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WixIinfbn3U

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>>378571938
>resorting into mesmer skills to beat a mesmer
Well, this didn't go as planned

>>378571840
Signet of Twilight, Expunge Enchantments, Assault Enchantments, Lift Enchantment if they're knocked down

I've been thinking of just going through all 3 campaigns again, making a new character for every campaign and just slowly progress through the game to witness the story again (i never paid much attention to the story when i used to play but now i want to)

Do you think i'll have a hard time if i always use henchmen? Considering it will be new characters i won't have access to good heroes and stuff

>>378572390
>Do you think i'll have a hard time if i always use henchmen?
Literally impossible in Factions because you've got to split up the party.

>>378572390
I think the last few areas in Prophecies and Factions would be pretty hard. Like, I don't think you can beat Shirou with just henchmen.

>>378572540
Shiro is soloable

>>378570161
Dervishes were way better with the old version of Aura of Holy Might and Asuran Scan
My derv is and always will be my main, but he is so boring compared to what he used to be able to do.

>>378572651
Link?

>>378571752
Protection Prayers, I think is the simple answer. "Healing" was more than just pushing red bars back up; stopping them from going down in the first place was 90% of good Monking in GW, which made it an extremely active class to play.
Monks had staggeringly high skill ceilings in Guild Wars.

>>378572651
>>378572698
Nevermind, found some. Nice.

>>378572390
>Do you think i'll have a hard time if i always use henchmen?
Henchmen have very bad builds in a lot of areas and are also generally retarded (Reyna is a single target DPS bow ranger for example).
Also yeah some missions are nearly or even literally impossible to complete with just one player.
However find just one friend and team up with and the game is 5000% easier

>>378549408
I always just tell myself that video games have come extraordinarily far in the last 20 years, and that progression will only speed up over the next 20.

By the time I'm 45 I know some seriously good shit will have come out, one way or another.

The only question is "How long do I need to suffer?"

>>378572820
you really just need Signet of Spirits, that shit breaks the game in half

>>378572774
The generally quick cast time, low cost, and low cooldown on the most commonly used prot spells was a big deal, too. Healing still involved a lot of energy management but it was fast-paced energy management since your energy pool was emptying and refilling at a quick rate when proper management and denial was in play. Making them such quick cast spells made them reliable and less vulnerable to interrupts as long as you weren't being predictable, which encouraged smart play and put value on hexes that punished skill use instead of just pure interrupts, like Diversion.

You also had a good mix of prot spells that could be used both reactively and proactively. A lot of other games make you heal one way or the other.

>>378550308
I'd love to but the ping keeps spiking to 500 for no reason

>>378573443
That happened to me too when I tried to play again a year ago.

>>378569434
the problem here is that non-asians tend to have a very poor grasp of how asians subvert language when they are not comfortable with stating something plainly. it's a subtopic of saving face
"asian cultural mixing is bad" was the NC guy's way of saying "we think having asian stuff in your game could hurt the performance of Blade & Soul here in korea because GW2 is launching around the same time. so please take asian stuff out of your game for now so we have a clear thematic identity for our other game"
the issue here is that it implies that your subsidiary western developer is making a better game that might threaten you, the native korean parent company. that might be humiliating to say out loud
but if you are a white guy in seattle, you might not pick up on the nuance and just take it literally as "asian mixing bad"
in short, it's an excuse, not an actual reason
mike o brien more recently stated that anet has full creative control over the game
and dragon festival (chinese new year) already adds asian decorations to DR where the canthan district used to be

>>378565408
>non existent damage
>the actual good damage shouts
>pve skills for all classes

What a joke.

>>378572964
SoS does wonders, but you need Summon Spirits too.
I recently got my friends old account and use it or extra traveler gifts and easy Zaishen quests. You can imagine my horror when I saw he never got to r1 for Kurzick faction

>>378574021
>non existent damage
>paragon
uhm what

>>378572390
you can just detour into the nf/eotn intro quests to get all the heroes you need

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>Playing Alliance Battle
>Luxon losers all bunch up in a deathball on top of a capture point
>mfw I'm a fire E/Me with Rodgort's Invocation on my hotbar

>>378575506
>Good old days of Jade Quarry playing a Nerco/Assassin bomber
>Those times when a retarded melee player would follow me into a capture point
>Could only imagine his confusion as I instantly die and hit him for like 600 and give him a ton of conditions

>>378575845
what skills?

>>378575506
Run as E/A with a teammate that is N/Mo in AB.

>Burning Speed
>Double Dragon
>Flame Burst
>Elemental Power Glyph
>Inferno
>Some other aoe spell I don't remember Probably searing heat or meteor shower
>Caltrops
>Death's Charge

>Balz Aura
>Smite Conditions
>Holy Wrath
>Vengence
>SoJ
>Zealots Fire
>Death Nova
>Putrid Explosion

We cleared out Zergs on the point, fuck I miss those days.

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>>378574021
>paragon
>non existent damage

haha, ranged evscerate faggot

>tfw accidentally deleted my elementalist with one of my crystalline swords

>>378576942
I ran a fun spear/pet build with R/P once, shit was fun in AB.

>>378572931

At the rate we're going next gen is going to be a small realistic room you can walk around in as a transgender listening to Chris Brown.

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>apply poison
>burning arrow
>wait for it
>savage shot, no mending touch for you faggot
>spread poison to others
>wait for it
>wait for it
>wait for-
>distracting shot, no more WoH for you either faggot

Ranger was the fucking best. Conditions, interrupts, and a shitload of gimmick builds like bunnythump and turret before they nerfed it made it so much damn fun to play in all areas.

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>>378577521
>Be prot monk
>See other team is R-spike
>tfw you see them all turn to face someone

>>378577434
No, don't worry about that.

It's either going to be outed as a dumb fad and we'll move on, or it will actually be good enough that you don't really need to worry about it.

The market takes a long time to correct when people are so sheepish, but it will correct if the games fucking suck.

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>>378549136
>kissing you softly

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>tfw assassin primary class with dervish secondary
>that ass wiggle when carrying the scythe

>>378577819
>That one monk that would always and without fail Infuse perfectly on your spike.

Fuck.

>>378578681
>not using 1 person to fake spike, then all hitting the infuser

>>378577819
Prot Monk bros reporting in

>>378578681
>tfw 2k HP infuser
Fuck I loved making retarded builds that served no real purpose

>>378578831
What the fuck happened to healers? We never had that dumb healslut fuccboi problem back in Guild Wars.

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>tfw made a Grenth's Balance spike build where I sac'd my health to spike someone with reverse health shenanigans
>only worked 50% of the time in RA

My builds were so shit but holy fun I had so much fun making them.

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>>378579124
I only made HA team builds, good times.

>>378576708
Death Nova, Dark Aura, Contagion, Putrid Bile, Shadow Walk, Signet of Agony, Touch of Agony, and Dash.
Keep your enchantments up and beeline for the shrines. Putrid Bile an enemy and spam your damage dealing skills until you die. Death Nova should kill them

>>378570161
the teardowns build is so fucking nice
but god damn you get carpal tunnel from that shit

>>378579254
>that moment when they changed life sheath from garbage to a reversal of fortune that removed conditions
Holy shit my dick

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>>378579254
Man I remember when the first Assacasters were being used. So much anal devastation. Shame they nerfed Deadly Paradox.

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>>378570161
>tfw I lost all my old GW screenshots form 2006-2009 because my HDD died

>>378579254
Remember EoE bomb and bunnyway?

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>Join RA
>oh thank god we have a monk
>"I'm smite :^)"
>mfw

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>>378579971
>Join RA
>oh thank god we have a monk
>Derv says "I'm a healer :^)"
>mfw

>>378579971
>>378580097

there were no funnier days for me like playing rt for heal in ra

>>378579971
>That one time my friend convinced me to try a Smite/shout team in TA
Shit didn't work at all and we all made fun of him for it to this day.

>>378579971
>Join RA with friend
>Our builds are Arcane Echo, Arcane Mimicry, Aura of the Lich, and Blood of the master

>>378552089
>but ascalon was charr land before humans came

That is horseshit. The original Guild Wars manuscripts for the first game says that

100 BE High-planes human settlements
become known as Ascalon
205 BE Humans appear on Tyrian continent

It says nothing of Charr being removed or anything else living in the area of Ascalon. It's a shameless retcon so that furfags can play GW2 and pretend like the Searing was in any way shape or form righteous. It wasn't. Lore-wise it was an act of pure aggression from the Charr.

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>Spike in 3..2..1..