>Tons of gamebreaking bugs >tons of unbalancing issues

>>378539569
But anon, Ubisoft is going to fix everything in the next two months :^)

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>Tons of game breaking bugs

Name 3

well i knew it, the siegetards' butthurt is too strong to reply

Because you have unrealistically high expectations. This coming from someone who didn't buy Siege.

>>378540632
>Hostage won't get grabbed (this is so fucking common it's not even funny)
>sometimes gun sometimes literally jams or won't reload for a while
>sometimes getting stuck forever when grappling

>>378540632
Thermite charges not destroying walls
Hibana pellets exploding after a random period of time
Jager's ADS destroying grenades through barricaded windows

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>>378539569

Well you got your fucking wish

O P E R A T I O N H E A L T H

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>>378540845
A polished game running on a decent unfucked engine is unrealistically high expectations?

Even fucking stalker is more polished than siege

>>378541007

Siege was made by 25 guys

>>378540632

Awful Netcode

>>378541054
>a triple A shooter that was marketed on TV with Idris Elba
>made by 25 people


LOL

It's a shitty shooter. I never could get around the shit gunplay.

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>>378541182
https://archive.is/gWy17

>>378540965
They bullshitted us about the tickrate change, and i'll be damned they don't also lie about the other changes.

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>>378541305

>The devs didnt even think siege would get popular
>probably rushed half the shit and its biting them in the ass now

This makes alot of fucking sense

SIEGE IS STILL BETTER THAN CSGO

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>>378541373

Who gives a fuck I just wanted new operators

Almost every game I play has "bad netcode" its become like a meme to me at this point

Netcode is like the newest shitter excuse I know Siege has problems with shit but like I said for the last 6 years everygame seems to have "bad netcode"

Can you actually play online with a cracked version ?

>>378540950
All of these have been fixed though.

>>378541703
Arma doesn't have shit netcode
BF3 and 4 despite having 64 player servers doesn't have bad netcode
even CS and COD don't have bad netcode
and hell not even korean MMOs like Combat arms have bad netcode that's as abhorrent as siege's

The only FPS games with notoriously bad netcode are ghost recon phantoms and siege...and they're both ubisoft games

>>378541525
I'd say it can hold attention longer, but CS:GO and R6:S are very different apart from both of them are military FPS games.
Counter Strike will always be loved for it's simple yet super effective gameplay model, even if the core is getting a ton of shit like skins, crates, gambling, toxic community, etc. piled on top of it.
Rainbow Six: Siege has a lot more tactical elements to it that add to the gameplay, but I personally feel they should have stuck with (I believe) was their original idea for it and have all that tactical stuff but no differing operators. So, like a more tactical version of CS:GO.

>>378541796
Yes, but you only get paired with fellow crackers

>>378541871
Nope, still see the thermite bug here.

>>378542040

Ghost Recon future soldier multiplayer didnt have bad netcode

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>>378542048
>tactical
Holy fuck please don't tell me you fell for the tactical meme?

A tactical game wouldn't have hitscan bullets that fire from the sight's chevron instead of the gun's muzzle (which allows micropeeks, wow, so tactical)

a tactical game wouldn't have retarded stance systems like going prone and standing while being able to aim down sights at the same time, and worst of all you can move prone while ADS, lmao

a tactical game wouldn't tolerate reckless sprinting and (Yeah i'm looking at you ash you kike)

It's just another bland FPS. m8

>>378542356
i said ghost recon PHANTOMS not future soldier

>>378542124

How's the population ?

>>378541525
>tu quoque
No one's talking about CSGO here, tard

>>378542947
There's always players

>>378542690

Siege is arcade tactical right?

>>378542690

Another bland FPS with destruction thats not a gimmick

why do people always forget about the destruction?

>>378543978
No
it's just call of overwatch: global offensive

>>378544072
battlefield 3 which was made years ago had more destruction than siege, let alone 4 where you can tear down an entire skyscraper

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>>378542040
>Arma doesn't have shit netcode
HAHAHAHAHA

>>378544402
Are you sure we're playing the same game? sure, arma 3 may have shit FPS but the netcode is at least semi decent

it doesn't have the operators going h-he's fast!! peeking like siege does.

>>378542690
>It's just another bland FPS. m8
Oh, fuck off. Name one shooter that actually plays anything like Siege.

>>378544631
Modern warfare search and destroy
>tied to an objective

>gunplay and gameplay is 1:1 except MW actually have more realistic mechanics like swaying and flinching when getting shot

>>378544254
Why the fuck would I want to tear down a building when the goal is to secure the hostage, secure the area, or defuse the bomb? This game would be trash if it was anything like that E3 gameplay they showed.

>>378544254
>>378545103

It would be unbalanced

>>378545001
What about destruction, reinforcements, droning, and operator gadgets/abilities?

>>378545103
You asked me to name a game with destruction and i did.

and BF3/4's destruction is actually useful for making shortcuts or making the enemy's camping spots exposed.
so quit it with the "it doesn't count" bullshit

>>378545372
Not that guy but battlefield 3 alone has all that shit except reinforcing

>>378545194
>>378545103
Battlefield hardline has siege tier destruction

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>>378540864
>>378540950

I don't think you retards know what a game breaking bug is.

A game breaking bug is a bug which as the name fucking implies breaks down the game, completely, as in you can't fucking beat the game anymore. For example in Skyward sword there was a game breaking bug where revisiting an area before a certain scripted event would kill a future scripted event required to proceed, effectively getting you stuck into that part of the game.

Hibana pellets blowing up late, or Thermite charges not blowing up the wood don't count as game breaking bugs, retards.

Btw I have over 700 hours in this game and I only suffered that "gun stuck" glitch ONCE during Y1 S2

>>378545538
I'm not the guy you were replying to, I'm just saying that level of destruction has no place in a game like this.

>>378546173
Hostage refusing to get grabbed sounds like a game breaking bug to me because it stops the time yet he won't move off his spot, trapping the round in a fucking limbo until you either kill the hostage or hunt down the defending player who knew that the hostage bug happened and starts palying hide and seek in the most obscure part of the map

So does the grappling bug because you literally can't move ever ever unless you get someone to kill you

>Btw I have over 700 hours in this game and I only suffered that "gun stuck" glitch ONCE during Y1 S2
You're pretty fucking lucky

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>>378545001

Why the fuck am I replying to this bait? That's one mode, it plays nothing like the other 2. And bomb mode is not even all like search and destroy, it's not the first game to feature a "plant a bomb" mechanic. The uniqueness comes from the variability in the environment and tactics, that's what says it apart. You'd have to be a retard to say "Oh lol they're the same game because in both it's first person and you're shooting xD!"

>>378545661
BF3 also plays almost nothing like Siege on top of handling said things far differently. It's a pretty big stretch to compare the two. For instance, droning isn't something every attacker automatically gets nor do defenders automatically get cameras, there's no setup time for defenders to utilize destruction to their advantage (as if anybody would regardless) nor is it a commonly used to people's advantages anywhere near the extent it is in Siege, and operator gadgets have less variety, less overall impact on a round, and are freely open to both sides and every player on each side.

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Frost is cute! CUTE!

>>378546584
There are no game breaking bugs in a multiplayer game unless you literally can't play the game anymore. As you said you provided 2 solutions to the hostage bug, which btw was patched ages ago.

Don't try to pretend you get these bugs in every match, we both fucking know its been over a year since you had that "gun getting stuck" glitch.

Every modern Ubisoft game is built to fail, they have run into the unfortunate problem with Siege that people actually kept playing it and even more people started playing it.

>>378546932
It's not fair how she's literally just a better Kapkan, my tripmines get a kill like one in every ten games.

>>378546650
>"Oh lol they're the same game because in both it's first person and you're shooting xD!"
A lot of people on /v/ basically think this and are incapable of looking at anything past the most superficial. Just look at every Insurgencyfag comparing it to CS.

>>378540864
I have about 600 hours and none of these things have happened to me

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>Poland is forever kill
can't deal with it lads

>>378540864
Been playing since the beginning, none of this shit ever happens

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>>378546650
Let's be fucking real here.

The only difference between COD and siege's gunplay is that in COD you have weapon sway and flinch when shot

Name ONE difference between siege and COD's gunplay apart from the one i've mentioned.

>>378547228

>Ubisoft removes pole operators


Is it because poles won't take immigrants?

>Ubisoft is a French company

So yes.

>>378546932
>Canadian
>Asian
Explain

>>378547076
i swear by my fuck that i've the hostage bug and gunstuck bugs 2 days ago

>>378547321

Different guy so I don't know what you've already mentioned but siege has way from recoil than cod

>>378547321

There is literally nothing wrong with cod

>>378547459

Does cod have a chambered round mechanic?

>>378547321
>hipfire accuracy
>differences in how recoil is handled and severity of recoil
>bullet penetration
>differences in damage models and health
They're not the same, stop the deductive arguing.

>>378545538
>>378546305

BF3/4 had terrible destruction compared to bad company 2

>>378547550
I'm not saying COD is shit i'm saying siege's gunplay is the same barebones gunplay that COD has

>>378547459
>but siege has way from recoil than cod
what the fuck are you trying to say
are you having a stroke?

>>378547321

Probably because that's the formula that works? Just like how most gamepads nowadays have 2 handles, yet you don't say "the ds3 is identical to the XONE controller because they both have 2 handles! and the n64 controller is better because it has 3!"

Asides from that, Siege has more recoil and higher damage.
And Siege uses +1 for reloads, even if not every gun featured should allow this

>>378547612
Yes

>>378547645
Everything you mentioned existed in COD since MW1

>>378547698

It has more recoil than cod guns

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>>378542690
>A tactical game wouldn't have hitscan bullets
>tactical game wouldn't tolerate reckless sprinting
You're a retard. The older Rainbow Six games had hitscan and speed movement modifiers. These games are considered the pinnacle of tactical

>>378547791
So you're agreeing COD had different recoil, different health and damage models and headshot models, different bullet penetrations models, and different hip fire accuracy than Siege since MW1? Well ok if you want to concede that's fine but unusual for /v/

>>378539569
>operation health
>player base and game dies

what did ubishit mean by this?

>>378547698
>what the fuck are you trying to say
>are you having a stroke?
Are you retarded? He made a typo but it shouldn't be that difficult to figure out what he meant.

>>378547336
>Ubisoft removes pole operators
Except they didn't. Fuck off with your fake news.

>>378547321
Leaning, dynamic prone, and OHKO headshots.
It's enough to make playing COD and Siege very different. I have a lot of hours in Siege and it feels weird going into other games with ADS since I can't as easily peak corners or find nice spots to hole up in.

>>378548087

Poland was literally in the first season 2 announcement

>>378547907
not the guy you were talking to, rainbow six was never tactical, it was arcadey

>>378548323

What's a tactical shooter than? Provide an example

>>378547142
The key to play kapkan is to play similar to smoke. Wait till the last minute and set up traps near the objective. The enemy won't have time to react to traps on the last 25 seconds.

>>378548419
>in before SWAT gets named

>>378548419
Arma 3

>>378548419
SWAT 3/4

>>378548827
what's wrong with swat?

>>378548323
Rainbow six was tactical.

A tactical game is a game which allows you to plan your shit ahead, which rainbow did.

>>378548832

Arma is a milsim game, which is different.

>>378548921

Old rainbow games had a lot more tactical elements than Swat ever did.

>>378549152
>Arma is a milsim game
Just because there are autistic milsim groups in arma 3 doesn't make it a milsim game, in fact it's far from milsim, if it was milsim it'd feature real guns and equipment (plus the constipation and MRE's)

Bohemia advertised arma as a tactical realistic game.

>>378549248
pre op planning and what else?

>>378548832
>arma

Its a shit cqc game with heavy focus wide open area combat.

>>378548921
nothing, I was just in b4 someone mentioned it.

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>TFW this thread is actually sending me away from buying siege

welp, guess i also dodged a bullet

>>378549524
haha holy shit you just reminded me

despite that arma 3's CQB is insufferable, it would still be better than siege's since it has no micropeek hitscan cancer and no netcode issues, and plus there's many positions you can take like urban prone or unorthodox firing position or far lean, it even has better leaning mechanics

>>378549520
Did Swat ever have Pre op planning?
No? So Rainbow games had more tactical elements than Swat ever did, dumbass.

The expression doesn't mean that the other comparison point had 3000000 more of X, even just 1 element would be enough to make the statement true.

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>>378549625
it's an ok game

>>378549391

"Milsim" is not even a genre that developers/publishers talk about.

I'd say arma is milsim regardless of no real guns (thats obviously because of copyrights, can't blame them for that) simply because there's a bunch of mechanics which simulate real shooting and combat operations.

I mean when you say milsim I don't think of some autistic fudd yelling "HUH? IT'S NOT CALLED THE 5.7 USG, IT'S CALLED THE FN FIVE SEVEN! WAHT THE FUCK IS THIS SHIT?"

>>378549625

There's no reason to buy it this late, you'll just spend the first week getting owned by people who've had it since day one and then write it off as a shit game like op

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>>378550063
Does rainbow six let you split your team let them clear different places?

does rainbow six let you control your sniper support the way you want?

does rainbow six let you order around every operator individually in your team exactly as you want?

>>378550424
it actually does
you just need a mic

>>378550424

Yes yes and yes

>>378550274
>>378550328
desu the thought that this game has lots of bugs and shit netcode already makes me think about dropping

and many people talk about bad balancing like some character being outright useless (castle) or character basically picking an eternal slot in your team (valk or hibana)

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>mfw reading this thread

OP is actually helpless

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>>378550424
Ehh it actually did. I don't think you ever played past RB1.

>>378550768
It's not OP alone, there's at least 2 more people complaining with him

>>378550693
You sound like you already play the game. Either way I bet you're shit pls refund it

>>378550693

Infrastructure is an issue and something you should expect in any Ubisoft game (shit devs in general)

The characters are fine, castle and tachanka are literally the only ones that could be called useless while everyone fills a role

Hibana and valk are not must picks by any means

>>378549625
Samefag op
Kys nigger and stop hating on ubisoft

>>378550914
didn't play it, just had a friend break me through it before i buy it

>>378550424
Have you ever played Rainbow six? Any game? Or the old ones? I'm not asking in a condescending way, but legit curious because yes you can do all the things you mentioned in that post.

Not in the first game (which is understandable because it's the game that pretty much invented the genre), but for example in Rogue spear.

>Does rainbow six let you split your team let them clear different places?

RB1 only allowed this type of things from the planning phase, but rogue spear lets you do it on the fly with a new "team orders" menu.

>does rainbow six let you control your sniper support the way you want?

Yeah it does, the sniper is another team member, you can have a team dedicated to snipe, the sniper will also notify you when he has his sights trained on a bad guy and if you want him to take the shot, or you can tell him to fire at will, OR you can manually control him (Aim and make him switch places if you want)

>does rainbow six let you order around every operator individually in your team exactly as you want?

Again with the team control menu you can order for shit like "flashbang that room, breach this door, watch the back, stay here, go forward" and so on.

I only played SWAT 4, which I'd figure would be the one with more features. And the problem I had was that all of these tactical elements were extremely clunky and slow to control, especially the support sniper thing.

Also in rainbow you have to worry about your team members, if they die and shit. In swat iirc you'd just get less points for teammates down and their deaths weren't permanent.

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>>378550328
>People who have more experience are better than me
Woah...

>>378549248
>>378549520

>old rainbow 6 fags thinking this

Swat was always superior

Rainbow 6 was always fucking bad

Even muh Raven Shield sucks SWAT 3/4 were always superior

Rainbow 6 in every single game was "aim for the head"

>>378551714
It's factually incorrect to say that SWAT had more features though. List some features that Rainbow didn't have.

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This is a Canadian special forces operator.

>>378547142
>he doesn't roam as Kapkan

>>378547142
It's silly how I see other kappy players that don't know you can aim further down the length of the doorway to make the trap harder to see

>>378547142

She's not? The frost traps are placed horizontally, they also don't kill on contact unless the person had already been downed once. Kapkan traps can kill more than 1 person and just like there's rooms where frost traps are pretty inconspicuous, there's rooms where kapkan traps almost invisible. For example the doorframe leading into the main lobby of bank or the storage closet from kafe both make the traps appear pretty much invisible to the naked eye

>>378541703
>pic
oh sweet jesus have mercy what in the ever living fuck is that shitty bullshit god damn just execute who ever was responsible for that abomination and while you are at it kill me too I will never know peace after seeing that

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>tfw KACHUNK when playing as Frost
>tfw KACHUNK is the game winning kill so everyone gets to see this asshole sneak up the stairs and not once glance at the landing

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Rook is best boy

>>378540864
literally not a single one of these happened to me
I'm guessing you're a cucksole pleb or have the shittiest dialup internet on the planet

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>>378541525
It's not better due to so many bugs and issues with the netcode it is however alot more fucking fun even with those problems.
Heres to hoping this season fixes most of the stuff

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>>378554761
>tfw peeking the sprung trap and see his teammate running down the hall to go save him
>5v4
>5v3
>Round has just barely begun

>>378547418
you are now aware that Ubisoft is run by SJWs who want to erase Canada's national identity.

>>378539569
>>378540658
>op makes a thread trying to get (You)s
>nobody responds to it
>throws a little tantrum and bumps his own thread till he gets a nibble
This is just sad.

>>378552735

Damn this game is so realistic!

>>378556092
Careful, you're getting dangerously close to the "This game is literally unplayable because female operators and blue jeans" bait

>>378551987
nonlethal takedowns.

>>378556252

I don't wasn't joking...

>>378556252

The jokes refers to how the Chinese are taking over Canada

>>378551987

Stack up and breaching

Sniper support

non lethal weapons

Body cams

Missions that actually change when you replay them

>>378539569
It saddens me to see the new userbase of /v/ like this piece of Ubitrash so much.
Ubisoft hasn't made a single good game in years, Siege is not an exception.

>>378551987

Rainbow is barebones as fuck compared to swat

Raven Shield was boring as fuck compared to SWAT 4

>>378556443

Body cams is the only one there that siege doesn't have.
Everyone gets drones instead

>>378556323
Also happens in rainbow six, some enemies will surrender if their hidden panic meter hits 100, which can be done by killing their partners or by injuring them.

But even then, both in swat and in RB that shit literally has no tactical value whatsoever, it does not affect the gameplay in any meaningful way, it's just to get points

>>378556556

No I dont give a fuck about Siege you dumbass

Im talking about old rainbow 6 games vs swat 4

Old rainbow 6 games are not as great as people say they are

>>378556647

Nobody cares about either of those games

>>378556552
Again this is factually incorrect. Tell me why Rainbow is barebones when compared to swat?

>old Rainbow 6 games

Learn the mission and aim for the head

There I just helped you complete the early rainbow 6 games

>>378556837

but Siege is like that

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>siege

>>378556647
SWAT 4 is boring as fuck, everything is super slow as shit down to the animations to the actual controls. Levels are also super small and missions lack challenge like that mission about a killer who has a girl kidnapped in the basement. It's literally just the killer who behaves like any enemy in the game, you down him and thats that, all you gotta do is look for the hostage.

>>378556837
there's random enemy placement and several missions won't allow you to just "aim for the head", for example the theater mission in Rogue spear was hard as fuck because you'd have to coordinate all the teams to go in from different balconies and pray they kill all the terrorists before they execute a hostage

>>378556443
>Stack up and breaching
Literally has always been in the series since the first game. Do you not know what the pre-planning and go-codes were for?
>Sniper support
Already mentioned in this thread. Rogue Spear introduced sniper commands
>non lethal weapons
Team Rainbow doesn't take prisoners, but rubber batons for shotguns exist
>Missions that actually change when you replay them
Same with the Rainbow games. They're non-linear and you can tackle them any way you want
Just get off /v/ and play the Rainbow Six games

>>378556252
That doesn't make it unplayable.
It just makes it shit.

Who are your mains, /v/?
For me its Hibana and Kapkan

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>>378557249
Kapkan and Ash.
I really like how I can breach twice at the same time as Ash.

>>378556443
>>378556647

Would you motherfuckers at least play the game your dizzing before talking shit?
Rainbow six had all that shit except body cams, which don't bring much value to the gameplay.

Yeah it had stacking up/breaching, sniper support and random enemy placement

>non-lethal weapons
Enemies in rainbow six would also surrender which would count as a non lethal takedown. Now tell me what exactly do non-lethal weapons change in the gameplay? they literally behave just like the lethal weapons, the difference is that the bad guy will end up having some constant pain animation instead of just being immobile on the floor

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>nu-/v/ loves AAA dudebro garbage like Overwatch and Siege

>>378549625
Just wait for R6S 2

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>>378551252
>stop hating on ubisoft
>mfw nu-/v/ thinks Ubisoft is a good company

>>378551137
Tachanka in the right place can be terrifying, only in really specifc situations, though.

>>378557956

>nu/v/

Lol kill yourself newfag

>>378558723
The only newfags are the fucking shitheads that enjoy trash like Siege.

>>378541703
SHORTS
H
O
R
T
S

>>378558723
>calls others newfags
>while having reddit spacing
Like pottery

>>378551137

>castle is useless.

when will this meme end? Castle can completely fuck up an attacker comp especially if they dont have sledge or ash

>>378558903

Fuck off newfag

>>378559034

>especially if they don't have two of the highest picked operators

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>>378559974
>reddit spacing
You didn't spend enough time on r/4chan before coming here, clearly.

>>378558903
So in other words, you haven't played it or are bad at it.

>>378560123

Yours is the Reddit spacing

Newfag

>>378539569
>>Tons of gamebreaking bugs
?
>>tons of unbalancing issues
?
>>tons of technical issues like broken lighting, bad matchmaking and bad netcode/hitreg
you have me there

>>378560398

So you haven't played it then. Good to know

>>378547423
>i swear by my fuck

we all know you've never fucked.

>>378560604

Literally did not read.

>new update called Operation Health
>supposed to make the game better
>so far encountered all the same bugs and maps like Favela run even worse than they did before for no good reason

>>378560398
Ok, so then I was right and you didn't play it. How can you say it's shit though?

>>378560072

I obviously fucking meant "especially if they're already dead". Ffs you have to explain everything to these people

>>378560795
because they haven't added any patch

>>378539569
Siege is a piece of buggy shit but it's still the best competitive shooter on a market. Most of it's problems come from the fact that it wasn't supposed to succeed as much as it has. Ubishit have developed it as a quick cash grab before Division and now that it outshone games that Ubi wanted to succeed they don't know what the fuck to do.

>>378563656
That just says more about how bad modern multiplayer FPS is, rather than how good Siege is.
It's strange to see the only good new FPS games be the singleplayer ones