Why did it sell so poorly on PC? It's the best third person

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I only play PC and I've never even heard of it.

Yet another case of failed/zero marketing

>>378490767
because neither is true

>best third person shooter of all time
Not even close. This game is shit and finally Platinumdrones can't pretend otherwise by convincing PCucc's to beg for it.

You should know by now that games don't sell just by being good.

no advertisement probably, If I didn't restart steam one day by accident I would never have seen the popup

also it's been 4 days

>>378490767
>60k sales for a 7 year old shooter
I don't see the problem. Plus I haven't bought it yet.

>>378490767
>steamspy 4 days after launch

$800k to port a pre-existing game from console to PC is pretty decent

>>378490767
>the PC port is the definitive version.
I've heard nothing but complaints about the PC port.

>>378490767
>It's the best third person shooter of all time
No, Vanquish is a very fun game but not a "100,000+ plus sales" fun game.

I wouldn't go as far as >>378491025, but personally I only like it because the AR mechanic allows for you to create cool scenarios, and the game has a /m/echa aesthetic.

But if any of you guys liked the bullet time stuff check out Stranglehold, it's another 7th gen TPS that you might've not heard of.

im thinking about buying this but never had a console (outside ps4) so dont know much about the game. is this like gears of war on speed?

>>378491250
>No load times
>All the frames you could ever need
What complaints?

>>378490767
>60k
>Poor for an 8 year old game

>>378491250
I've heard nothing but praise

>>378490767
>just came out
>little promotion
>not at least 90% off

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>>378490767

>literally 7 years late for a pc release

it really is a mediocre third person shooter not the best, but why should anyone be surprised that a game that pc gamers have lost hope of ever getting a pc release are not buying it when its literally so fucking late

>>378490767
Thats around half a million accounting for Vavle's cut, how much could the port job have possibly cost?

>>378491250
PC version runs perfectly and has a secret hard mode.

Bayo already broke 150k sales, Vanquish is going to as well. Plus it'll go on sale and more people will buy it over time, these ports are put out there for the long game sales especially when the amount they get from every purchase is pretty high.

>>378491353
There was a bug where the higher your framerate is, the more damage you take.

There's a beta patch out now that addresses that, though.

>>378491353
you take more damage at higher fps

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>>378490767
>60k sold is bad for a 7 year late-port game

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>>378490767
>game came out on the 25th of may
>its the 29th of may
Its not even been a week, not to mention im waiting till steam sales to buy it and mayo, and most people will probably do the same

>>378491529
>secret hard mode
you mean how damage is tied directly to frame-rate and that playing the game at 60fps basically doubles the damage you receive?

>>378491250
Literally the only complaint was about the classic "damage increases on higher FPS rates" bug that technically is already fixed but needs some ironing out before going public.

its a lot more than i would expect considering its a relatively short game that can be pirated

>>378491529
kek, nice

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>>378490767
the best third person shooter of all time -- and the best game of all time in general -- is earth defense force 4.1

Bugger all marketing, hints in game files only works when it's done in conjection with other marketing tactics, on it's own it wasn't enough.

Plus everyone's just going to wait for a sale, Steam users rarely buy games at launch.

i love how you fucking idiots slap your palms together in sales threads but dont know that it takes a couple of weeks for steamspys numbers to be accurate

>>378491805
EDF stopped being fun 10 years ago.

>>378490767
It's boring as fuck

>>378491817
That plus steamspy can't even gather information from accounts set to private meaning there's more owners out there that aren't counted

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>>378491998
4.1 is the best game of all time. there is no argument

>>378492160
nice gif

>>378491529
They released a beta patch which fixes it. Also, why the hell so many Japanese games have this sort of bugs which make the game act wierd ways if you run the game at higher refresh rate

>>378492348
i mean western games do it too. skyrim is unplayable at 60+

>>378492489
to be fair, skyrim is unplayable in 30 fps too, but that's because it's a bad game

Some people play it that way, but it's all about stylish shooting. Knowing how and when to speed boost, shooting grenades to deal splash damage, using the different melee moves, it's got a lot going for it.
It's also incredibly short, but the idea is to replay maps and find new, fun ways to kill everybody.

>>378492348
They're not the only ones, Rockstar are guilty of it too. The car physics go wonky when you play San Andreas at a higher frame rate.

>>378492348
the games were designed for consoles, so they don't have to deal with the possibility of anything higher than 30 so they can get away with stuff like tying damage to framerate or weapon durability on the frames it's touching an enemy in dark souls

Those are honestly the only instances I've seen of this kind of issue, if there's more games that do this I haven't heard of them

Because PC "gamers" don't buy games.

>>378492654
Meant for >>378491283

>>378492348
good programmers don't end up in the game industry

Bayonetta sold well because Dat Ass.

No t&a; no old console port sales.

So what does /v/ consider to be the best third person shooter?

>>378490767
Because being a definitive piece of shit still makes it a piece of shit.

>>378491283
No it's like Gears of War if Gears of War punished you for doing anything fun that doesn't involve abusing a fuckload of movement glitches.

>>378493037
Vanquish

>>378493037
I hate third person shooters

>>378492947
gaming is probably one of the industries with the highest ratio of good:bad programmers. definitely some of the hardest interviews around

most bad programmers end up at raytheon, lockheed, etc.

>>378493037
Way of the Tomato.

>>378492668
>>378492489
Oh

>>378492710
Ah. Makes sense

>>378490767
the game is 2GB, the rest are cutscenes.
forgettable 3 hour game
If you want a TPS play Binanary Domain

>>378490767
I'm overly interested in it but it's getting out during a pretty heavy period.

Because it's like a four hour game and it actually doesn't do much for the third person shooter genre?

>Spend 10k porting a 7 year old game
>Make 12 times your cash back

WHY'D IT DO SO P00RLY GUIZ!?

kys

>>378492160
E D FFFFFFFFFFF

>>378490767
It didn't have Bayonetta's legacy to market on.

I'd say the vast majority of people are waiting for it to go on sale. It's cheap as it is but a 4 hour long campaign with no other content whatsoever is likely putting a lot of people off buying it full price.

>>378490767
it lacked brand recognition.

most pc players are retarded 3rd worlders who play shit like overwatch or lel, or 12 year old kids playing streamer bait and minecraft.

>>378493785
>3rd worlders
>overwatch
Nigga that game rarely goes down in price enough for 3rd worlders to be interested in it. Seen a second hand copy for xbone the other day that was literally the same price as a new copy.

>>378490767
in a week it sold more than it ever did on consoles

>>378493956
This, CSGO and TF2 are much more apt comparisons

>>378493706
6-7 hour campaign. I would love to see a person do the campaign in 4 hours. That would be skipping all you can and on easy with no deaths.

>>378490767
I refunded that shit, it was piss easy

never listening to /v/'s suggestions again

>>378490767
After playing Bayonetta I'm never buying another Platinum game again.

>>378494271
HE DIDN'T PLAY ON GOD HARD XDDD

>>378494102
This. I noticed everyone says "4 hour campaign" but I'm fairly certain I've played it for six hours now without beating it. The average "how long to beat" recorded time is 6h 07m.

>>378490767
Its a weird game

>>378491025
epic /b/ro

>>378492954
They probably missed a trick by now having Sam be a hot girl. Especially considering he's on his knees with his ass in your face for 90% of the game.

>>378495161
>on his knees with his ass in your face
do you even body mechanics?

>>378490767
>62k owners
>33k players

so do PCfats buy games just to have them? This isnt fucking physical media. Steam is never ever going to run out of copies and they'll never gain any sort of collector's value. Why not wait until the inevitable sale in a few months?

>>378495520
Do you play the same game 24/7?

>>378491529
>Secret Hard Mode

it's really not that hard when you have m+kb

its a game with niche appeal, always has been, despite people believing otherwise due to the vocal minority that love it. it was never going to be a big seller, no matter what platform its on.

>>378490767
I really enjoy the game but there's a few changes I feel it really needs to be perfect for me.
>gives me a boost machine gun at start of the game.
>Never fucking gives me a boost machine gun again for more ammo
>Decide to drop it
>it drops another boost machine gun
I would have had more standardized ammo drops than just waiting for that exact same gun to drop again.
Also holy shit remove those cutscenes or cut down on them severely. Have dialog going on while you are fighting.
And then while it would have been too much to add to this game, if it had ever gotten a sequel with wall sliding and other similar mechanics that would have been a pretty cool addition.

And I'm not the average /v/ piece of shit that has complaints and instantly hates the game, it's still a great game, holy shit when people do this it pisses me off.

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>>378492654
>using the different melee moves

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>>378490767
>single-player

>>378490767
>wahhh why didnt my shitty Warframe ripoff sell??!?!!!

>>378496121
I'd say it sold pretty well for a 7 yo niche game on steam

I mean honestly anon , as someone who has done work on ports , it doesnt take that much effort to put an older game on pc

Hell most devs choose not to as 78% of PC games get pirated irregardless

>>378495520
Some people, i know this may be hard to comprehend but stay with me here, some people have jobs or other responsibilities in life. Not everyone is a NEET trustfund kiddy.

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>>378496317

>>378493485
Being one of the most mechanically complex fps games around isn't doing much for the third person shooter genre? I really wonder what kind of tps you've been playing.

>>378496317
> Rip off
> This came out first

They're not even the same genre.

>Piratefags just pirated this game since it doesn't have Denuvo
>Even Steamfags noticed that it's too short for its price so they also pirated it

PÇucks will always make all sort of excuses to validate whatever high horse they are ridin but they will always show their true scummy intentions

>>378497036
Destiny was more of a Warframe ripoff

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>>378490767
Hey, I did my part.
I just haven't touched it yet because I want to finish Nioh first.

>almost decade old game will eventually sell 100k

good to know there are people out there who don't fall for games age memes and enjoy playing video games.

>>378497106
oh damn anon, you must be one of those saints that buy games at full price and never trade in or buy used games huh...

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>The higher your framerate, the harder you get clobbered by the bad guys. And since an awful lot of PCs out there are capable of easily running the game at higher rates than the 30 fps of the original console releases, that's a real problem.

>>378497364
>implying that isn't to do with the industry stagnating over the past decade
Just look at the amount of "remasters" shat out with little to no difference from their original counterparts besides resolution, maybe some better lighting and textures.

>>378497106
>Game sold comparably with other really late ports
>EVERYONE JUST PIRATED IT!
You're one of those naive fucks that thinks Denuvo actually does anything.

>>378490767
was it on pc? i remember buying it in a mega bargain for 5 bucks new at this store thats was liquidating all their ps3 shit less than a year after release for my cousin

>>378490767
>player receives the more damage the higher the fps is
Definitive my ass

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I'm waiting for some cash and then picking it up straight away. I just bought a Steam Controller this week and I can't wait to play on it.

Also SEGA assumed it would be big because Bayonetta was but failed to remember that Bayonetta is actually popular these days (especially compared to Platinums other early works with SEGA). So they did fuckall for advertising.

Madworld and Anarchy Reigns probably never, though, and I don't think there were any other SEGA Platinum games. Not a huge deal if you can emulate Madworld well on Dolphin, since I've heard Anarchy Reigns was never very good

Those are still good sales for a budget port. You also have to consider it came at a time when most people were finishing up with school, are waiting for E3, and on top of that are waiting for the Summer Steam sale.

>>378498128
This is a good point

They were probably looking to keep up the momentum from Bayonetta 1 but didn't realize that put them up shit creek in terms of timing

>>378490767
im going to get it eventually

>>378492348
gooks don't know what the fuck delta is because they're bad at computers.

>>378490767
>7k for a a port of a niche 7 year old game
sounds about right
>buh shootin robots
its japanese with no marketing, don't /v/ and your own research delude you

>>378498225
Its still done fairly well for itself considering some AAA ports still wish they had those numbers, and with Steam your game never really stops selling since someone will buy it when it goes on sale.

>>378497609
I think the Switch proves that it's not happening because of stagnation, it's happening because publishers are realizing that they need product on the shelves early on in a console's life.

>>378490932
How is it not the definitive version?

>>378491729
Git gud faggot

>>378496368
sure, but people here seem to have been expecting it to have sold 500k or something ridiculous

>>378496317
How? Warframe is a farming simulator. And this is a platinum 'over the top action' game

>>378491517
>it really is a mediocre third person shooter
You clearly haven't played it. It's wonderful.

>>378498776
You haven't played it doesn't work when a game can be ran on a toaster for free.

>>378492160
Just woke up from a seizure, thanks.

Good, let it remain a niche title so the fanbase won't be ruined

>>378498849
>Cover Usage : 96.85%

>>378493436
It would involve not having played either to make that recommendation.

>>378492489
> skyrim is unplayable

That's better

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>>378490767

>>378497106
Buying denuvo for these sales would have been a waste of money.

>>378498962
>Y-you haven't played it
>That's wrong retard
>W-well, you must not have played it the right way then!
Way to backpeddle faggatron.

>>378493436
Vanquish is just an all around better version of Binary Domain though unless all you care about in games is muh generic hollywood adventure movie plot

>>378497593
>I'm a casual faggot who can't git gud

Stick to your western trash, redditor

>>378499012
It's been out for four days, even if they were reliable those aren't bad numbers.

>>378490767
I only buy games that are released physically with no DRM.
I only play PC so I haven't bought a game in a long time since they pretty much only released digitally these days.

>>378490767
>It's the best third person shooter of all time
not a high bar

All shooters are incredibly simplistic and shallow in design third- or first- person. And recent shooters are made even dumber with effort to reach out for bigger and bigger yet drooling audience.

Vanquish and Splatoon are literally the only shooters since the genre was invented to actually TRY.

>>378499273
>literally "it's not a bug it's a feature" posting
I mean, i like the game but come on, don't be a fucking idiot.

>>378499231
Not the same guy. And yeah if you call a game mediocre while exploring only a tiny fraction of what it allows you to do then your opinion's pretty uninformed.

>>378499231
Way to beg for attention instead of sticking to the topic at hand, garbage boy.

>>378492489
>he didn't change the havok physics file to run the physics timing at 120FPS
lmaoing at ur life

>>378499340
>All shooters are incredibly simplistic and shallow in design third- or first- person.
What about Deus Ex, System Shock, Splinter Cell, Thief, etc.
You're an idiot, enjoy your turn-based yaoi dating sims.

Pirate link?

>>378499372
It's not like a bug that crashes the game or renders it unplayable. It's a bug that makes the game harder. Why would you want that fixed you fucking casual. Git gud faggot

>>378499508
a lazy pirate deserves worse than death

>>378499340
Sounds like you've only played some really mediocre console shooters. Hell even among console shooters stuff like Max Payne 3 exists, and can definitely give Vanquish a run for its money in term of mechanics even though it's a way more flawed game overall.

>>378499570
Found the codex version :^)

>>378499696
good

>>378499474
Dude Sex HR was actually incredibly shallow in design, you could very easily fuck yourself over and never be able to finish the game if you pick the wrong upgrades.

>play the way you want
>stealth builds are literally useless for the final boss

>>378498497
You are a truly naive individual if you believe thats what Steam does for game sales

>>378490767
>It's the best third person shooter of all time
That's not Max Payne 3, you fucking retard. The game sold like dogshit, because, just like other consolesit games, it was exposed as overrated trash the moment it hit a platform where people actually have a choice and are not shit-eaters without standards who will gulp down any released turd.

>>378498661
Framerate bug

>>378500248

https://community.pcgamingwiki.com/files/file/894-vanquish-damage-fix/

>>378500193
It's a better game than Max Payne 3

>>378493436
>If you want a generic TPS play Binary Domain
thanks

@378500193

you're gonna have to work better on that bait for (You)s not gonna feed you any more champ

>>378490767
That's not bad at all considering its only been out for 5 days and most of the people it appeals to played it years ago.

>>378499803
>Dude Sex HR
Never reply to me again.

>>378490767
When you overstate it, you diminish it.

But its really good, I want more of it. I only wish it had a slightly more serious tone, its pretty fucking goofy.

>>378490767
I pirated it and it wasn't very good. Overhyped console trash as usual just like Dragon's Dogma or Valkyria Chronicle.

>>378490767
Marketing should include Hillary Clinton committing suicide after getting outplayed by Cyber Putin

missed opportunity tbqh

>>378500193
you're gonna have to work better on that bait for (You)s not gonna feed you any more champ

>>378500486
>I want more of it
God hard and challenges are waiting

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>tfw beat it taking basically double damage
Git gud

>>378500484
Try and stop me, bitch ass nigga

>>378490767
62,000 sales? Thats not bad at all, considering no marketing and the game's age. Honestly I hope it turns some heads, we need more games like Vanquish.

>>378490767
I bought it because of its advertising with Bayo 1.

If it weren't for me owning Bayo 1, I wouldn't know about it. I only knew about it because of the marketing for another port.

More trash marketing from Sega, a trash company.

>>378500597
It's not much of a difference since it only affects some attacks, even on god hard.

>>378493037
max payne

>>378500597
Am i supposed to be impressed? Veteran in cowadoody's like quad damage and even braindead retards can beat that.

>>378500489
>I pirated it and it wasn't very good.
No, you didn't.

>>378500769
of course

>>378497504
>Full price
it's $20 you cheapskate fuck, This is not some full remasted version. Even TotalBiscuit thinks that the game is still good for $20 and I want to show support for Sega's decision to port their games to PC.
>>378497681
>Implying the combined versions of CODEX, CPY, Skidrow, Reloaded etc download count didn't surpassed the Steamsales within 72hrs the game launch

Sega placated PCbros by not adding Denuvo and majority of them just spit on their goodwill and still pirated their games.

>>378491661
>>378491640
It's to compensate for the fact that the game is easier at higher frames and on m+kb. Damage is nerfed on console.

>>378501584
>Sega placated PCbros by not adding Denuvo and majority of them just spit on their goodwill and still pirated their games.
They released it digital only which is just as bad as having Denuvo.
Also, Steam is inherent DRM so your Denuvo argument doesn't work.

Game looks like shit

>>378500193
Max Payne 3 was the most console-focused game of the series though. The first two were Remedy who have roots making PC benchmarks while 3 was Rockstar who are known for being irl console warriors.

>>378490767
idk, I bought it when it was announced weeks ago

>>378501897
It would be stupid to release a 7 year old port onphysical media, especially since physical media is fucking dead on PC. It would be at least 4 DVD's for a 7 year old game.

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>console niggers still this buttmad about Vanquish

>>378502552
the only people trying to start shit about it were ricers bragging about how they got the definitive version.

>>378502681
you see... you say shit like that, but what you are currently doing is called "starting shit"

>>378502753
>console niggers still this buttmad
>telling other people they're starting shit
boy

>>378502327
What do you gain from sucking corporate cock so much? Is that fat piece of shit Gabe Newell paying you?

>>378502912
and this is also called "starting shit"

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>>378490767
>Vanquish is the best third person shooter of all time

Why do retards think that TPS are made to be played with a controller? M+kb controls in Vanquish are really good. The only thing I noticed was some inconsistent DPI issues, but with a mouse with DPI buttons the game is perfect.

>>378490767
>It's the best third person shooter of all time
But thats MDK.

>>378502924
I don't give a shit about Steam or Valve, the market simply isn't there for physical releases on PC anymore. It's the reason why PC games are empty boxes with codes now.

>>378503007
No one thinks that, only people advocating for pad use for Vanquish are tryhards who think that making the game more difficult is more important than making it more fun and smooth to play.

>>378490767
because everyone already played it like 10 years ago

>>378492668

That also applies to the console version actually, most notably with Vice City. I ran that off a soft-modded PS2 hard drive, and everything runs at turbo speed. You can almost outrun the draw distance itself, was pretty funny. The first game where the read speed had a noticeable effect for me.

>>378503094
You don't know if there is a market or not, since as you said games are released with an empty box with a code in it. A lot of people that aren't willing to pay for a box with a code in it would be more than happy to pay for a physical release with the entire game on the discs/USB and DRM free.
CDPR still releases DRM free physical copies for PC so Cyberpunk 2077 is the only game I will be buying in the foreseeable future.

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>>378490767
>best 3rd person shooter of all time
Naw bruh

>>378503265
Nobody played it though, that's why there's so many articles about it now having a second chance. People are just now discovering it's good.

>>378490767

BECAUSE ITS A SHITTY LAZY PORT OF A SEVEN (7) YEAR OLD GAME


Couldnt they improve the graphics more OR ADD SOME FUCKING LENGTH TOO THE GAME?!?!?!? its piss easy and like 2 hours long

>>378503928
>Couldnt they improve the graphics more
Watch the DF video, it blows the PS3/360 version out of the water, Granted, that's mainly because they had to gimp the original game and it still ran like shit. But the PC version has better textures, shadows and proper texture filtering.

>>378503484
ahahahaha anon pls

also
>story written by some cuck sjw
what a shitty pick for best tps of all time, get some taste for crying outloud you uncultured dog

>>378504112
>he PC version has better textures, shadows and proper texture filtering.

yeah than a almost decade old game. fuck off. game is short as fuck and not worth 20$

pirate this garbage if your curious

>>378499248
Binary Domain has much better gunplay and story. You might not care about the story but you can't pretend that shooting is not important in a shooting game.

>There's casuals in this thread who used the DLC weapons for a majority of the game

You have beaten tactical challenge 6 riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight?

>>378504315
>Binary domain
>better gameplay and story than anything

>>378504696
>being so retarded and casual

what a gay

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all i wish for is that vanquish had coop.

but in all honesty the reason why it didnt do good is because of all the #imwithher people getting pilled on how she'd start ww3 with russia for money and be the first female president who also happens to shoot herself in the head.

vaginas can't manage countries.

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>>378505248
>game is funded by trump

>>378501702
No, its because nips tie logic to framerate because they don't know any better and can get away with that nonsense when developing on consoles

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Why does every 7th gen shooter look the same? Granted, Vanquish looks pretty good in some scenes, but most of the time it has the washed out, heavily-tinted look that seems to define the 360.

>>378491640
That bug got patched if you opt into the beta updates

>>378490767
What exactly best about it? I liked Binary Domain more.

>>378490767
Sales are slower just before the Steam Summer Sale.

>>378504248
>Pirating a top 10 of all time game
It is you who is garbage.

>>378490767
thats not lost planet 2

>>378490767

It's a 7 year old game that's why

>poorly
>literally the most lazy halfassed port imaginable
>generates 62,000 x 30 revenue, for what cost maybe 40k in funding

>>378490767
>spending 20 bucks for some shooter thats old as dirt
>console kiddies mad you aren't buying it for some reason

literally zzzz

IT HAS BEEN OUT FOR FIVE FUCKING DAYS GODDAMNIT

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>>378507482
>old = bad
How do you manage to tie your own shoelaces?

>>378490767
They should port over a good game instead, like Sonic Unleashed. Getting that game to run on a 360/PS3 and look as good as it did must have required some fucking wizards.

>>378505926
Console limitations. The need to support gamepads' limited buttons/triggers results in simplified controls, thus making less options readily available to the player, and d-pads are shit for shooters, so the developers have to limit gameplay with auto-aim, cover shooting, dashing and so on. Strafejumping on consoles? Impossibru. Holding 15 weapons and easily switching, like in any PC shooter? Well... no.

Moreover, the need to support consoles' inferior hardware results in samey games that push that hardware to the limit, but look meh to PC gamers.

>>378490767
>It's the best third person shooter of all time
Nah it's shit.
That's the last I fall for the Platinum meme.

>>378507781
>A good game like sanic unleashed
Furries are just the silliest.

>>378508292
>Nah it's shit.
Nah, it's gr8.

>>378507865
>auto-aim
Vanquish has no auto-aim, just like second shooter worth paying any attention to: Splatoon

> dashing
mobility options are good for any shooter

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>>378509124

Oh jesus speaking of Splatoon

>Play Vanquish with a controller
>instinctively try to tilt the controller to fine tune my aim instinctively

>>378490767
>t's the best third person shooter of all time
Simply lamao. It gets boring after 30 minutes. Platinumeme not even once.

>>378500248
>>378500357
There's already a beta patch on steam that fixes it. If they weren't fixing it it would be bad but they are already getting it done. It is the definitive version.