STOP, CHILDREN, WHATS THAT SOUND, EVERYBODY LOOK WHAT'S

How's the game play especially gunplay like?

Squads better

Because it's shit

>>378442547
>>378442667
>no jets
>no helicopters
>no tanks
>falling for the early access meme

it's literally a shitty version of Project Reality with better graphics

>>378442667

Nowhere near as fun

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>>378442547
>>378442667
Every time

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>>378442781
Much more fun

>>378442737
They're perfecting the ground game. Tanks will be included soon

>>378442895
>They're perfecting the ground game

who cares?
It was meant to be a combined arms shooter and it's lacking this many years later

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>>378442667
It's like the psvita anon in monster hunter threads, at this point it's a meme.

>>378442402
apparently still using UE3
too bad, i wanted this to be a step forward, not sideways

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>>378442895

>soon
>2015

>>378442667
this game is terrible and is only fun for commanders and squad leaders

>>378443074
at least UE3 works, all UE4 games look the same and have the same bugs

>>378443176
False.

>Tripwire

>be off work since Friday because bank holiday
>have to go back to work tomorrow when the game comes out

JUST

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>tfw I realize the squadbros are too powerful

I guess I'll have to purchase Squad afterall, and refund my vietnam game

>>378443570
only publishing

wtf i love squad now

>>378442402
i like ro2 better

>>378442402
No single player.

YO WHAT TIME DOES DIS SHIT HIT I WANNA PLAY FUCKIN NOWWWWW NIGGGAAA

>>378444209
No shit, it is a MP only game.

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>Tfw pre-ordered
>Tfw tomorrow is little brothers graduation, family is in town and it's a busy week at work

I should just become neet.

>>378442547
>>378442667
Squad is complete shit and utterly dead. Fuck off shill.

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>>378444209
>2017
>Single player

i missed out on the open beta period, how's it play compared to Rising Storm?

>>378444491
WRONG

>>378442402
why can't i play it yet?

>>378444550
More dynamic, which mean's its easier to get shot out of literally fucking nowhere this time, even from people that have 0 clue about positioning.

I've found it fun tho, the gun's feel a little more floaty than usual but still satisfying

TOMORROW
>TOMORROW
TOMORROW
>TOMORROW
TOMORROW
>TOMORROW
TOMORROW
>TOMORROW

LITERALLY cannot wait

>>378444648
gotta wait for like 11am EST tomrrow

I wish this shit were launching tonight.

>>378443479
>>378444627
great arguments, shill

>>378442402
My major problem with rs 2 is they removed the zoom from most weapons while aiming and staying still. That was useful as shit for precision shooting at range, and for making aggressive actions against a dug in enemy. It's much harder to assault a hard point now, and I don't understand why they wanted it that way.

Helis are floaty and unresponsive sometimes, but generally good. Loach needs a bit of a buff tho, imo, either in agility or firepower.

Other than that, game is 10/10 but I think squads should be doubled in size for ease of logistics, gets squads more like RO2's

The m16 is the funnest weapon in the game

is there bullet drop in this game?

>>378445774
Yes

>>378444485
You've got 24 hours to take care of it all.

Then you ain't no senator's son no more, boy.

>>378445774
Yeah, but it's almost insignificant at the distances you engage your enemies usually.

>>378445734
real life iron sights don't zoom, get over it
also the best servers in RO2 had that disabled anyway

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>It's another squadkiddies thread
>They just don't play PR, for FREE

>>378442402
I have. Just really dissappointed with their city levels designs. Bottleneck maps are cancer.

>>378442402
Because it ran fairly badly and I didn't enjoy it.

>>378446014
PR WWII came out and people still bought Day of Infamy

>>378445734
I don't really have an issue picking off enemies at range with only iron sights, especially the M16,, which is surprising because it should logically be a ridiculous pixel hunt. I think they made players stand out from the environment by adding an almost cartoonish brightness to character models.

>>378446092
PR WWII is """alpha""" or whatever, and doesn't nearly get as much advertisment as DoI, unfortunately.

Inb4 """janky""""

>>378442402
I'm just worried that this game will eventually make me hate my favorite CCR song

>>378446441
it's not even in the game, it's just a meme

>>378446619
>it's not even in the game
wat, its the menu music

>>378446051
>Because it ran fairly badly

How old is your toaster? The system requirements are so low. If you can't run RS2, then you probably can't run RO2/RS either.

>>378446619

>he thinks the only song people know by CCR is Forutnate Son

>>378442402
I did but it's definitely worse than RS1 in every possible way. RS1 has a way better flow and way better hit detection.

>>378446441

>his favorite song isn't Down on the Corner

>>378446848
>RS1 has a way better flow and way better hit detection.
I strongly disagree with your opinion

>>378446910
pop garbage from an otherwise great band

Imagine if Tripwire had spent the cash on getting the weapon and VC announcer sounds right first time instead of spending it on a title-screen meme song people hear for 5 seconds

what a fucking waste

>>378446935

not him, I love RS2 but the beta had some really questionable hit detection at times, hopefully they can fix it

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>>378446684
Shellshock 'Nam 67 had the best menu theme

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hlOU1MQ8U8

I don't understand.

What's so special about RS2? What makes it better than RS or RO2?

All I see is a reskinned RS with helicopters.

>>378442402
The game is too stiff feeling and cheaters are already destroying it. Some cheater was even advertising his cheats in chat. Absolute fucking joke.

>>378447313
no more gay cover system making it more like the superior RO1

>>378447234
thanks for this

>>378446935
The hit detection is fucking shit. It's almost as bad as Battlefield 1942 was. While in RS1 I can kill people at 250 metres here I struggle to kill a retard at 50 metres even though I visibly hit him 6 times.

>>378447118
The only problem RS2 has is that bullets actually come out of gun and not your face like it was in RS/RO2 and you end up shooting in the ground.

>>378447502
oh no, how will I head glitch to victory now?

>>378447406
Literally nobody half decent was using the cover system because it's shit. You aren't very good at RO are you?

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I played the beta and the game feels awful.

But that's just the fact that I dislike the combat in all of Red Orchestras altogether.
They feel incredibly clumsy and awkward in every respect, the movement, the gunplay, I just don't understand how people find it enjoyable.
Also I hate the stupid fucking gimmicks that you can't use primary weapons inside bunkers or that when enemies have captured certain points, you can't shoot inside those territories anymore. It's incredibly frustrating when you're trying to flank somebody and realize you can't shoot unless you move one meter to the left and by then you're already dead.
The maps are nice and the attention to detail to really capture that NAM feel is there, but other than that, the game is just boring and bad gameplay-wise.

Where's the appeal, people?

>>378447502
got a source for that claim?

>>378447502
>The only problem RS2 has is that bullets actually come out of gun

I don't know what this made me laugh, but yeah it's not perfect and needs some tweeks, the idea/and mechanics are sound though

>>378447636
blind firing was the only fun part of the cover system, and I hardly ever used it

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I decided to buy it right after the open beta ended. I am butthurt that they didn't leave it open until release for everyone who purchased.
They should be releasing it today, since it's Memorial day and everyone has the day off.

>>378447817

>tfw I have to work
>tfw have to work every holiday

>>378442495
>1 hour ago
>no answer
>people arguing abour soundtracks and other games
So it's shit then?

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>>378447817
>everyone has the day off

y-yeah h-haha

>>378447817
I believe they feel it would be disrespectful to release today, even though it would make sense

>>378447651
honestly, after playing RS1+2 I felt 2 had improved movement and more intuitive gunplay

not being able to use rifles in tunnels is realistic, tho it is frustrating as fuck

what pises me off is trying to save a cap but because you're outnumbered its lost anyways and now you're stuck 400 meters behind a restricted zone - really punishes you for no good reason, I was hoping they would make it more like Insurgency where caps can't be captured until all enemies are dead

>>378442495
>>378447937

When you get the hang of the free aiming and you're running through trenches hipfiring VC with your shotgun you'll feel like a god

>>378442667
NEVER EVER

>>378446910
>not Just Got Home from Illinois

>>378447692
>got a source for that claim?

Not him but it's common knowlege in RO2 bullets come out your head, I think it was the same in RO1 also, COD and Counterstrike are also guilty of this

>>378447753
it's not even good for suppressing

>>378447937
gunplay is exactly like RS1

It'll be dead before long. Just like every FPS that isn't fucking Overwatch these days. It's real fucking sad how FPS on PC has fallen from grace.

>>378448180
most games do this, the best way to compensate is to fix the third person animations so the rifle is up at eye level

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SCRRRRRRRRRREEEEEWWWWWW YYYYYYOOOOOOOOUUUUUUU, CHARLIE

>>378447937
The gunplay is bad. Like really bad. Sometimes you empty half a mag into someone and he lives. M16 full auto is a fucking laser beam. There's literally no need to use single shot with it. AKs are shit since the open beta, no idea if intended or not. Most weapons apart from PPSh and RPG are boring as fuck.

>>378448076
Except you can still shoot and kill people. It locks firing only if you run in restricted zone from an unrestricted one.

>>378448180
this is freaking hilarious
I've never thought about it

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>>378447906
>>378448019
>he works retail or something
Don't worry anon, you'll move up in the world eventually. I believe in you.

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How long till they fuck up the character customization with goofy shit to get the TF2/OW audience?

>>378446686
My system can run it fine.
What I mean by when I say it "Ran Badly" was that I had to redownload the whole game to get two maps to load at all, and I had massive rubber banding issues when my ping was sub 100.
I had no rubber banding issues while playing on servers with ping of 150+, its really strange.
But in the end, I did not enjoy it enough to pay for it.

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>>378448319
HEY CHARLIE! HOW COME YOU AREN'T FRIENDLY LIKE THE GIRLS BACK IN SAIGON?

>>378448452
Never. The devs aren't complete shitters. The worst you can expect is some silly helmet graffiti or tattoos.

>>378448452
It's already a cheesy fucking game, so it shouldn't be that long. cheaters will destroy it long before overwatch crowd discovers this pile of shit anyway

>>378448584
I hope they just let us type our own helmet graffiti

>>378448584
Tattoos are almost all retarded already. Thank god they are reasonably high level.

>>378448584
there's an eyepatch in char creation
sounds pretty goofy to me

it will probably be a dead game like orchestra 2 with 1000 people playing max

>>378447937
For some reason it's a huge step down from RS1/RO2, despite it being the same people using the same engine. Either the hit detection is wonky or the guns down pack enough punch. They also removed the ability to see which body part was shot, which changed how quickly you needed to bandage.

>>378448658
t.squadshitter
Shoo-shoo, jew.

>>378448452
>character customization

2bh i'll be sticking with the standard VC clothing, going topless etc as VC is gonna get me teamkiled too many times, GI not so important

Black and green pajamas all the way for me

>>378448707
That's just an eye bandage though, people fought like that. I mean, it's for the gooks.

>>378448674
I doubt they will, just going off the way you need to unlock graffiti.

>>378447651
the gunplay appeals to me, (at least in other RO games), because it manages to slow things down in a manner that doesn't entirely rely on random deviation. (which sucked in Battlefield 2).

there's some sense of appriciation at attention to detail, even if it wasn't the best allocation of resources. For instance tanks in RO:Ostfront/Darkest Hour:1944-45/Mare-Nostrum, and RO2 had interiors with stuff going on. (RO1 had interiors, just not fully-modeled interiors), there's something about that level of detail that is charming.

>>378448812
Think again, fat ass. I'm in-game right now. The game is not as fucking amazing as you think it is.

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>>378449165
>implying implications

>>378448785

Yeah the engine has some nice improvements such as the ragdolls and the smoke actually works properly now compared to RO2/RS1 transparrent mess, but a lot of the mechanics have taken a step back, a common theme in a lot of todays franchises

>>378449165
>I'm in-game right now
no you're not

why is the ppsh always op

>>378447651
>They feel incredibly clumsy and awkward in every respect, the movement, the gunplay, I just don't understand how people find it enjoyable.
the controls are complicated, sure
but to me the appeal is that everyone has to deal with these controls all the same, we're all on equal footing and combat in real life isnt typically a graceful ballet, its down and dirty, people doing anything they can to get an upper hand no matter how dishonorable, like playing dead and then ambushing when the enemy walks past, toe popper mines, airstrikes
its very difficult to master the controls, so when you finally do get the sights to line up and accurately predict the bullet drop on a moving target from over 150 meters away, it feels VERY rewarding

reflecting that desperate struggle in game is the appeal to me, even if it can be very frustrating at times

>>378448078
>>378448215
>>378448325
>>378448785
Thanks for the input. Too bad because I like the setting. I'll give it a shot when it's on sale sometime

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>>378442402
>preordering
>ever

>>378449324
I'm OP and I already own Squad on steam so you Squad lads can lay off and go make your own thread

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>speaking about games with squads

>>378449505
I'm afraid the meme is established

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>>378448527
SEEMS LIKE THESE JAPS TURNED YELLOW

>>378442402
I only pre-ordered it for the KF2 skins, fuck me I'm becoming part of the problem.

>>378449448

>not wanting a 25% discount on a game you can refund if you don't like it

>>378448325
that's wrong though. 1 bullet to the right spot can kill with any gun. aim better

>>378449656
I got it for like $15 on a keysite

>>378449651
>pre-ordered it for the KF2 skins

>preorder RS2
>recieve 4 skins
>foreskins

>>378448325
You are a literal retard who cannot aim. It is possible to kill someone with a single shot with AK/m16 from 250m+.

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>>378449165
>I'm in game now
You're a developer?

>>378449774

Can't argue with that lad

>>378449956
the only reasons I justify it to my self is if that shit was on the market place they would be £15 each.

Probably going to play RS2, but you know I love me some KF2 shit.

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*raises paw*

Guys I admit I'm the squadbro poster. I preordered this game and will probably play it all with you, but I haven't enjoyed the beta as much as I've enjoyed my time with squad, but its not bad

>>378442402
>Plays and looks exactly like RO2 and RS except with a Vietnam look and nobody uses a bolt
I'm on the fence on buying it. It's pretty much the same gameplay that I've already sunk 1000 hours in

>>378450118
Personally I like it better than RS1 so far. The weapons do make a difference, and if you play as VC you actually need to watch out for helicopters and AC-47 strafing runs.

>>378450118
>and nobody uses a bolt

Why would you complain about this?

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>rush my ching chong vietcong sapper into enemy point
>place mines
>dumb shitmericans get blown the fuck up

>>378449681
>>378449962
Yeah? So I have no problem killing people at 250 metres with Type 38 in RS1 on Iwo. But I can't kill people at 50 metres with AKM because I'm bad at aiming. Makes sense.

>>378450378
How do you not get shot while putting the mines down?

>>378450331
I'm not complaining. I'm comparing RS2 to RS1 and RO2.

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>Get banned for 24 hours for replying to a derail post IN MY OWN THREAD
>ban screen won't even show me what post I got banned for

Justify this right fucking now you fat fucks

>>378450378
>place tunnel in the woods under a fern near 3 objectives
>flank and kill everyone on any point within 3 minutes

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>>378450545

admins are cucked

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>>378450484
>But I can't kill people at 50 metres with AKM because I'm bad at aiming.
Correct.

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>>378450545
Do squadbros hold this much power?

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>>378447651
>They feel incredibly clumsy and awkward in every respect, the movement, the gunplay, I just don't understand how people find it enjoyable.

I find it enjoyable because I'm not a hitscan turbodownie. I can actually handle ballistics.

>>378450545
maybe you should post more facebook frog memes

>>378442402
So, how does the soundtrack work? I've heard pieces of the OST but when/how is the "real" music played? Like Battlefield: Vietnam where you hop into a vehicle and pick a song?

Is Martha & The Vandellas - Nowhere to Run in it?

>the only 10 people still playing squad are in this thread
kek

>>378450782
ambient music plays and changes depending on how your team is doing

>>378442402
Because it is another shit shooter with a bigger map. There is nothing special about it at all.

>>378450782
There are civilian(not officer) radios around the map, music can be played from them. Only actual song is Run Through The Jungle, rest is modern stuff.

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>>378450831

voice acting sucks dicks

>>378450782
>how does the soundtrack work?
there is no OST except for the main menu and the glorified porn music that plays during rounds

>RPD
>Huey flies overhead
>"I wonder if this will do anything?
>spray into the cockpit as it goes by
>nothing
>nothing
>nothing
>helicopter suddenly lurches forward
>+5
>+5
>+5

What a thrill

>>378442402
UE3
I'm not playing another game made on that shitty engine.

>>378450694
Except even players like Ajskold are having issues with the new hit detection. The hit detection is worse in every possible way compared to original RO2.
>>378450717
Don't know if it's still true but RO2 was using hitscan in close quarters. Devs literally admitted that on forums.

>>378450892

you sucka da deek, chareee

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>>378450892
Record your own and let's compare

Hopefully modders will port over BC2 Vietnam's voice files

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>>378451085
yes

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>>378450904
That's my boy.

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>>378450526
I'm fast and I know exactly how to place them.

>right in the shadow
>right in the middle of steps
>around corners

always get 30+ kills as ching chong sapper

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>>378451092
>if voice acting is bad you cant criticize it unless you're a better voice actor

Jesus Christ, shill confirmed

>>378451092
How about you use your voice and compare, you dumb shit.

How about we compare the rs1 us voices compare to rs2 usa """"""va""""""?

Even the fucking us announcer sounds fucking bored

>>378451194
>american forces
>all niggers

when did you realise that the Vietcong was the good guys trying to safe their country from US enrichment?

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>>378451085

>>378442402
Because I played the beta for 30 hours and I'm bored of it.
There are only 5 maps that matter, one of them is shit and the community is retarded and only votes for one of them anyway.
As a result of having no maps they've had to remove the campaign game type, my favourite mode from RO2/RS.
The new cover system doesn't work very well because even though your barrel is clear, you still end up shooting the cover 90% of the time.
The game also lacks any atmosphere, especially when compared to RO2. It doesn't really give me any of the Vietnam feels I get from pop culture, such as Apocalypse Now or Full Metal Jacket.
The move to modern weaponry has also robbed the game of a lot of identity for me, when everyone has automatic guns the game just feels like a worse version of Battlefield.

I took longer than 10 seconds but fuck you, that's why I haven't pre-ordered

>>378451092
>Hopefully modders will port over BFVietnam's voice files
ftfy

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>>378451327
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>win as VC
>spam "GO HOME GI!" in chat
Never stops being funny.

>>378442402
IT AINT ME

>>378451496
>too beta to voice chat

It shows, anime poster

>>378451359
Pretty much. But shooting down a full Huey with an RPG is fucking hilarious.

I played the beta for like 15 hours and I never played on a map that wasn't Hill or Hue city its the same problem of RO2 bridges again.

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>>378451440
Woodstock experience is pretty lame tho

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>>378451496
>Win as GIs
>Viet players saying fine, this your home now GI!

>>378451557
Get the punji stick out of your ass, GI.

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>>378451610
Song is a great map

>>378451319
No, the US was the good guys for sending niggers to die in nam

>>378451618
Which class gets LSD?

>>378451790
It's a toggle in the graphics settings

>>378451771
then why they bring them back?

>>378451725
Well I just wish I had a chance to actually play it

>>378451725
Played 17 hours and that map didnt get voted once

Insurgency and Day of Infamy are better.

>the good:
>game feels somewhat more stable and smoother-running than RO2/RS1,

>the bad:
>Terrain/buildings/map-design is too static.
>Needs some destruction/deformation.
>Controls seem to remove the possibility for barrel-change in addition to bipod adjustment and bayonet.

>>378451610
That's because those two are Territory maps, which is objectively better than Supremacy. Also, there's five maps total.

The reason bridges is played so much is the autistic wehratards that permeate the RO community who want to club bolsheviks.

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>>378451618
more

>>378451771
my uncle was betrayed to the VC by his nigger squadmate, spent weeks in a camp and had to eat his own worm-infested shit before escaping and making his way back to friendlies

>>378451875
>Day of Infamy

Shite

>>378450545
Probably triggered Squad shills who know their already dead game will be buried for good come tomorrow.

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>>378451725
ah point Delta
how I love putting mines there for fatmericans to blow their legs off

>see I blew someone up
>go check
>american without legs lying in the dirt

>>378451868
>>378451874
Because it has a massive performance issues. They fixed some of them in the open beta but it's still not smooth as other maps.

>>378451868
>>378451874
do you guys not browse servers for the map you want?

>>378451875
kind of agree, but its a different sort of game

>>378451817
hippies ended the war

>>378451875
I like Insurgency but the games aren't really comparable

>small teams vs. large teams
>small maps vs. large maps
>hitscan vs. simulated projectiles

>>378451875
Maps are WAY too small especially in DOI, Ins at least has Buhriz

>>378450879
What the fuck, I thought this would have tons of licensed songs such as Creedence or Deep Purple.

I fucking paid 21€ for this tripe.

>>378451940
>Controls seem to remove the possibility for barrel-change in addition to bipod adjustment and bayonet.

None of the LMGs in game (M-60, RPD, DP-28) have the ability to quick swap barrels. For some reason, it was a lost art for a while.
>bipod adjustment
It's there, look in controls for the keybind
>bayonet
That is also there, look in the keybinds.

Seems you just got brain problems anon.

>>378452064
hippies didn't accomplish anything
the VC ended the war

>>378452000
The two games are nothing alike though.
One is a milsim and the other is an arcade shooter.
Two very different audiences - people aren't going to quit squad for Rising Storm 2 to get their simulation kicks.

>>378452170
If you can't change the barrels then why do the lmgs practically become unsuable after a few short bursts?

>>378452221
Nixon resigning and his replacement stopping the bombing of the North is what ended it

>>378452114
you know those songs were never played overseas, right?
the best they got over in Nam was golden oldies from the fifties and early sixties

>>378451963
>my uncle was betrayed to the VC by his nigger squadmate

details anon? for the sake of posterity

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>>378449165

>>378442402
I haven't pre-ordered a game since Brink.

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>play Americans on Hill 937
>Cap C & D
>ATTACKING FINAL OBJECTIVE
>mfw

>>378452339
I also know the Vietnam war wasn't only set in 5 small locations but that doesn't stop a game from adding to the enjoyment now does it?

>>378452239
>milsim
neither squad nor RS are milsim

>>378452221
The VC got annihilated. They were unable to stage any large operations after getting rekt during the Tet offensive. The NVA had to wait a few years after the US left before they invaded South Vietnam.

>>378452298
Since none of the can barrel-swap, the use of fully automatic fire is curbed by overheat, then barrel-warping (ie, you can't shoot anymore). If this happens, you can visit a supply crate and it fixes your barrel.

imo, it's fucking pointless to have an overheat mechanic JUST for the LMGs, with no active ability (barrelswap) to mitigate. You can magdump AKs, M16s and even the DshK all day, but 15rnds through an RPD and the barrel is cooking. Just remove it.

>>378452427
On an unrelated note. Can someone explain the story of Brink to me? I always thought it was a niche game, but apparently before it's release it was expected. Why?

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>>378452239
>Squad
>Sim
That shitpile is just a clunky attempt at Battlefield.

>>378447234
It is a goddamn shame what they did to the sequel

>>378452509
>After the US left

Ok. Is that what you tell yourself instead of "After the US lost hard."

>>378452349
recon with 1 partner
nigger ran and gave position away
he was shot and my uncle captured
he doesn't like to talk about it and he can't go outside much
he also doesn't really like being the racist asshole he became affter, but his mind is broke

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>>378452560
>being this triggered as to lie

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>>378448419
You're funny.

>>378452613
Name a battle we lost

>>378451725

>build tunnel in the center
>win

gg ez

>>378452509
>The VC got annihilated.
is that why we had to airlift everyone from the roof of the embassy when we left Saigon?
because the VC were so annihilated?
yeah no

>>378452560
I've never played Squad but

>That shitpile is just a clunky attempt at Battlefield.

is a perfect description of Rising Storm 2, even if it does fit Squad too

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>>378442402
I PRE-ORDERED IT!
NOW WHERE IS MY SOUNTRACK VIETNAM WAR?!?!?

>>378452549
Brink was really hyped up as being this shooter with really slick parkour mechanics. A lot of people were excited thinking it was going to bring a new level of movement to multiplayer FPS titles. It turned out the parkour mechanics were clunky, and everything else about the game was mediocre crap. It flopped hard.

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>have tomorrow off
>get to play all day

>>378452613
desu, they actually made a treaty with VC to stop the war.

It just that VC went
>lolz fuck the treaty
>breaks it after they leave
and the rest was history

>>378452703
>being this misinformed to disagree

>>378452718
Tet offensive

>>378452549

Brink was just a really hyped up game

>promised to be a deep class-based shooter
>promised to have an interesting parkour movement system
>promised to have interesting gamemodes and some deeper subplot regarding the game world

>turned out to just be lukewarm with a big marketing campaign

>>378442402
I don't have a pc yet.

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>>378452703
You're the only one triggered here shill. And the only one lying.

>>378452795
Nobody was firing on the embassy when US forces were withdrawing. South Vietnamese citizens were swarming all the US transports in hopes of hitching a ride out of the country.

>>378452064
>hippies ended the war

half-right, I think it had more to do with a general sense that the South Vietnamese were simply not worth the effort/expense to continue funding and supporting. It was expense, unpopular with the upper-middle class, Given the turbulence of the 1960's there was some sense that "all that money would be better spent on fixing things here at home, rather than some corrupt shithole abroad".


I think it's worth Remembering the North Vietnamese/Vietnamese communists fought off an attempted invasion from china almost immediately after the South-Vietnamese were defeated.
(China was alligned with Khmer-Rouge Cambodia, which the USSR-backed Vietnamese invaded due to Pol-Pot being a sick fuck)

>>378452904
>big marketing campaign
it didn't have this, but they had a couple of slick trailers

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>RS2:vietnam isn't a clunk buggy mess
AAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAA

*inhale*

HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>378452898
>tet offensive
but the USA won that, you idiot

>>378452541
thats strange
did the real life counterparts really have that much trouble with overheating?
i would have figured they had mostly solved the issue of overheating at least to the point where quick change barrels were no longer needed, especially with something like the m60

>>378442402
It feels too clunky and cartoony, even compared to RO2 and Rising storm 1.

All the guns feel shit, the maps feel shit.

as a big RO2/RS fan, im pretty fucking dissapointed.

>>378442402
Because a piece of shit error stops me from playing this game that I was really hyped to play

>>378452170
M-60 had barrel changing

>https://youtu.be/Wwlztv9J4tY?t=5m36s
>https://youtu.be/Dtu_NItvP2w

i'm not a 30 year old stay at home dad with nothing better to do than find other 30 year old stay at home dads to play stupid """tactical""" games with over teamspeak

Does marking enemies as a rifleman do anything?

>>378452898
The Tet offensive was a failure though. All US bases that were initially overrun were retaken immediately and the VC ended up losing all of the men, equipment, and travel routes that they had spent months preparing.

>>378442402
Preordering videogames is an autismal concept.

>>378452795
>>378452897
VC =/= NVA

Learn history you brainlet

>>378453103
What error?

>>378452969
>South Vietnamese citizens were swarming all the US transports in hopes of hitching a ride out of the country.
why would they do that if the VC was annihilated?

>>378453147
>that feel when 30-year old NEET
lmao @ ur life kid

>>378453197
who cares, retard. A gook is a gook

whetever it vc or nva

>>378453209
0xc0000007b
trust me, i've done everything possible, including
downloading all of the .dlls and putting them in system32, the game folder and other shit like that, it just does not work at all, i tried for the entire beta weekend

>>378453213
Because the NVA was still intact and the assholes we put in charge of South Vietnam were authoritarian lunatics. Are you stupid or something? Do you not realize that the VC and NVA are not the same thing?

>>378453028
>>378453158

"Tet was a historical anomaly: a battlefield defeat that ultimately yielded victory."

http://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/tet-who-won-99179501

>>378442402
I did, though. I got it for $12.

>>378453325
do you not realize that commies are commies no matter what they call themselves?

>videogames

>>378453213
See >>378453197
Vietcong were annihilated during the Tet offensive, NVA had to do all the fighting after that

>>378453425
I don't see what that has to do with anything I said.

>>378453306
Have you tried updating your drivers?

>>378453519
I don't see what anything you said has to do with
>videogames

>>378442667
>>378442547
It's dead

https://steamdb.info/app/393380/graphs/

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>>378453287
>>378453425
>be historically illiterate retard
>get BTFO
>"W-WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE? T-THEY WER DA SAME"

I played Red Orchestra Ostfront 41-45 when it was still a mod for Unreal. That game was good.

The rest?

Casual shit.

Red Orchestra 2 was the biggest gaming disappointment of the last 20 years, along with Duke Nukem Forever. Bad maps, a bunch of features removed, bad graphics, empty and repetitive gameplay, etc. I won't even mention Rising Storm.

I tried Rising Storm 2 beta a few days ago... and I must admit that I uninstalled it after about one hour and a half. The only interesting thing was to see the gun animations and sounds, but you get over it in a matter of minutes.

Don't buy this piece of crap.

>>378452803
>Rising Storm 2
Authentic, squad based tactical shooter aimed at 'realism'
>Battlefield
Squad-based, combined arms shooter, aimed to be 'arcadey'

Apples and oranges.

>>378453431

nva were going to take over the show regardless. the tet offensive was vcs last chance to win.

>>378443959

Still a good enough reason to not give them my shekels.

>t. butthurt RO2 pre-orderer

>>378453678
any two people trying to take my life are the same, they are my enemy

>>378453735
Rising Storm 2 is an arcade shooter wearing some realism big boy pants. The only difference is that RS2 has a smaller time to kill.

You are beyond retarded if you think Rising Storm 2 is in anyway realistic.

>>378453032
Any gun will overheat in a matter of minutes depending how many rounds you are putting in the barrel.

>>378453135
For some reason, I always thought the M-60s was more elaborate. This is now a good question why devs haven't enabled this.

No bots

Best part of RO2 was just sitting down for an hour mowing down waves of bots as they come at you

>>378453897
Arma kiddie Pls go

>>378453157
i believe it places a marker on the map similar to what the recon plane does
i don't know if the marker it places on your hud can be seen by other players so they know exactly where you were looking but that would be nice if it did

>>378453534
Yeah man, nothing solved it, it happened with other games aswell but those other times my solution helped, I don't know what's up, guess i'm stuck with Rising Storm

>>378447234
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0acN2v6aIc

>>378452549
>>378452827
>>378452904
It was also from the makers of Enemy Territory games which were hugely liked games.

>>378453897
>Arcade shooter
I guess if you compared it to VBS, it would be, but it never aimed to be a milsim to begin with. There is nothing other to call it then a "realism" shooter, because it certainly isn't arcade, reserved for the likes of CS, DOI, Insurgency DoD, Battlefield, and so on.

>>378453971
he's not wrong tho

>>378454150
Yes you are babby, games don't need 12 different crouch positions to be realistic

>>378454057
They will send you a medal GI, but only after you are dead.

>We'll never get someone to mod in the most kino in-game radio station:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lzUIn2Weo10

>>378453971
I've never touched ARMA or any milsim, that doesn't suddently make Rising Storm 2 anything other than an arcadey shooter you mental fucking midget.

You can magically spawn on squad leaders ALA Battlefield. If you get shot you can bandage yourself and heal your gunshot wounds. Being arcadey isn't a critiscism, it's just a fact.

>>378454268
tell me how Germans assaulting an entire city with 1 small tank is realistic

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>>378451085

>>378454425
Pathetic backpedalling lel.

>>378454425
Because RO isn't an RTS and a Tiger with infantry support probably could take a town by itself

>>378454395
well there's no bunny-hopping and reload cancelling, guess that means its not arcade then :^)

>>378453709
Wow a long hyperbolic shitpost with no content as to why thing is shit. 10 years later things never change

>>378453930
i understand that, but i would have figured the weapons they developed for vietnam would be good enough that they would only overheat after minutes of continuous fire, and almost no engagement would have them laying down that many rounds consecutively, thereby effectively eliminating the problems that overheating posed

i thought thats how it would be in the game too, but i didnt use the lmgs very much during the beta so im not sure what the heating is like just yet

>>378442547
>>378442667
>>378442895
Can't wait for it to get out of early access so I can ____refund it

>>378442667
I just posted to say this game is awful.

Rising storm 2, in the other hand is quite tasteful

>>378454395
You can spawn on Squad leaders in PR does that make it an arcade shooter?

>>378447313
I don't think it is better desu. I'm just going to play it because I've played RS/RO2 to death and need something new. It's decent but it's not better.

>>378454787
You can heal yourself with bandages in PR and Squad I guess they're arcade shooters now

>>378454515
fine tell me how using a bandage in 10 seconds to seal up multiple gunshot wounds is realistic

>>378454586
>a Tiger with infantry support probably could take a town by itself
it wasn't done tho

>they are thinking of adding those fucking Aussie nigger eventually
fuck that shit, french forces WHENNNNNNNNNNN????????????????

>>378454890
adrenaline m8

>>378454787
>>378454864
actually, yes

>>378455008
ARMA kiddies everyone, calling PR a fucking arcade game

>>378454697
I think you vastly misunderstand how hot the gases are, and how quickly barrels heat. IRL you're supposed to do about 200rounds through a barrel before swapping. It's going to be very hot before you reach your 200th round, and thats nothing because your job is to put hundreds of rounds downrange.

>>378454993
they were gone by '62
if anything we should be given some Laos missions

>>378454993
>not wanting ANZAC for all the banter

>>378453709
I played RO since it was mod as well and I like RO2. Sure, I liked Ostfront better but RO2 is good as well, apart from the tank combat.

>>378455086
all it needs is a coin slot
also I don't play ARMA because its boring as fuck, thats why i play fun jump-in-and-play arcadey shooters like these
stop kidding yourself and aggrandizing games that don't deserve it

>>378455104
SO?

Just wait, what if i told you... WHAT FOR IT
Dien Bien Phu map?

>>378452803
>rising storm 2
>clunky
are you okay anon?

>>378454890
Why are you so wound up around bandages? You know there's multiple other facets of the game that make it a realistic shooter? Not everyone enjoys playing ACE mod or whatever ARMA mod.
Are you telling me in real life, if you were shot, you wouldn't try to cover the wound with a bandage? Most of the time you die in a single hit ingame anyways.
>>378455008
retarded.

Is there a WW2 game that has Burma or North Africa missions with the British?

>>378455086
t, triggered because my arcade shooter isn't as realistic as I like to pretend it is thus meaning that my smugness on not playing arcade games is based entirely on bullshit

REEEE ARACDEY IS A CRITICISM REEEE

>>378455326
He's right. If you played previous RO games you can't deny that RS2 is clunky as fuck.

>>378455363
>can't even manage to do the "t." meme properly
ARMAtards, everyone.

>>378455359
COD 2 has the north African levels

>>378455336
Please tell me what makes this fast paced arcade shooter realistic other than the fact there is a small time to kill?

Why are you so triggered and offended by the word arcadey as if it is a critiscism? The game is fun and guess what, it's fucking arcadey

>>378455359
Hidden and Dangerous 2. It has both Burma and North Africa. Thinking about it, I'm going to download it right the fuck now.

>>378455336
>these things are realistic
>these other things aren't
>but I'm going to default to calling it realistic because REASONS
you're just picking out what confirms your own impressions

>>378455518
>tfw so butthurt you have to attack a typo

again with the ARMAtards, I told you I don't play milsims and I've never touched ARMA. They look boring to me. I enjoyed playing RS2 in the beta because it's a fun arcade shooter. Stop being so anally assblasted about this.

>>378450892
>He doesn' like the NVA's announcer going "Dey r taking eckho
The American one sucks ass I'll give you that.

>>378455529
>>378455571
thanks anons

>>378448784
>RO2
>dead

I can usually find a full 64 player server with decent players who actually communicate. Good enough for me.

>>378453670
???

2000+ consistently players for over a year. That's dead? Full servers 24/7, dead?

>>378455461
felt fine

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Rising Storm 1 is better

>>378455784
Nah, I actually enjoyed vietnamese ones, well, the ones I could understand.

>>378455541
Because it isn't arcadey.
Insurgency/Day of Infamy, CS/DoD, Battlefield, CoD, are all arcade shooters.
Rising storm is a tactical shooter, with aims of being realistic. If you can't figure it out what makes it different from the aforementioned games, maybe put a shred of thought to it.

>>378455518
>i only play realistic shooters
>shits on probably the closest thing to an actual milsim
>also anyone that disagrees with me only plays ARMA even though they easily recognize and support arcade aspects in several games

>>378455326
>laying down trip wires isn't clunky
>building squad leader tunnels isn't clunky
>fuck it trying to lay down anything doesn't result in you standing around trying to get the fucking deployable to turn white but you get shot because you're stood in the open battling this clunky shit
>aiming over a wall and shooting the cover isn't clunky

what does arcade shooter even mean

>>378442968
It's already got Strykers, jeeps, artillery and techies. It's early access and already better than RS2 at full release.

>>378455698
>There's a few things that are unrealistic
>I'll therefore default to it be unrealistic.
Okay buddy.

>>378455984
>with aims of being realistic
No it doesn't. It has a small time to kill. That is it. You have not provided me with anything else that shows me how realistic this arcade shooter is.

>>378455727
>so butthurt he can't even formulate an argument, let alone attribute specific titles to the game.
sad!

RO2/RS is better, try to prove me wrong

>>378455984
>Rising storm is a tactical shooter
no its fucking not
hell Insurgency is way more tactical than Rising Storm since you can't call in airstrikes and have to actually communicate with your team to clear objectives

>>378442402
Got my Nam playlist. Can't wait to fry some Gooks and kill some GI tomorrow. Too bad it unlocks when I'm still at work

>>378455997
Okay, back to Squad you go now.

>>378456075
Just because Wile E Coyote falls off a cliff due to gravity doesn't make it a realistic depiction of reality

Rising Storm 2 is fun, but you guys need to admit that it's quite an arcade shooter.

I'm playing it with my PC usb Xbox One controller, and I still manage to pull off a really good score. This wouldn't be possible in games like the first Red Orchestra, Project Reality 2, Squad, or Arma.

Thank god Steam has a return policy, so you can try it before getting your refund.

>>378456110
Day of Defeat has small TTK
Battlefield and CoD have their hardcore modes, both small TTK
Insurgency and DoI have low TTK

Going by your argument here, they're all realistic shooters too.

>>378456160
>RISNG STORM 2 IS REALISTIC BECAUSE IT HAS A SMALL TIME TO KILL REEEEEEEE
>IT'S NOT ARCADEY REEEE
>ARMAKIDDIES REEEEE

no you're right, your arguments are far more compelling and better formulated than my own you retarded little autist.

>>378456247
Squad has maybe the worst maps in any videogame

>All these shitposts about ARMA, Squad and shit
What is with you autistic niggers?

>>378455984
RS2 doesn't feel any more realistic than insurgency

>>378456202
You're implying armed forces in reality can't use airstrikes? lmao.

>>378456428
No, by my argument they're all arcade shooters, including rising storm 2.
Are you illiterate friendo?

>>378456490
tribalism is a thing, even in vidya

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Hide GI threads
Ignore GI posts
Do not replay to GI posters

>>378456337
This analogy pertains little to the argument.

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>>378456559
>Tribalism

>>378456202
isnt artillery bombardment quite literally a tactic though?
dont you think it fall under the tactic of 'area denial'?
and to call in those arty strikes, the TL relies on marks placed by the SLs which requires some communication between them to put the marks where the TL says to

should I get Ostfront or RS2? I got RO2 when it was free, but I dont know if I should play it or play another one

>>378454697

You are playing a multiplayer sim, not battlefield, you have been spoiled.

You are now wearing bigboy pants, you must learn and suffer now.