>/v/ says a game is utter trash >get it years later >It's

>>378422023
lemme guess, you havent played the other metal gear games b4 V.

>>378422236
lemme guess, you a bitch who got played like a violin. mgs2 all over again

>>378422452
Fantastic review, you've totally changed everyone's mind about MGSV. WTF, I love kojima now.
Wait until you go past the first few missions and everything starts getting all too familiar.

>>378422452
At least mgs2 was finished, had a coherent story, had good atmosphere, and wasn't repetitive af

>>378422452
There's a difference between a trick, and the dev team getting fired and the game being unfinished and released with glaring holes.

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>>378422236
Wrong.

>>378422236
Ive played all of them and TPP is better than 4 in every way and better than the others in terms of gameplay. No idea why people think TPP is some shit outlying game, if anything thats Portable Ops and Peace Walker

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>>378422560
>mgs2 was finished

>>378422560
>was finished
So is V.
>had a coherent story
If you didn't understand V's story you're either too stupid for a fucking video game story or you ignored the tapes.
>has good atmosphere
and the perfectly crafted Afghanistan and African environments don't offer that. Retard.
>repetitive af
It's only as repetitive as you make it be.

>>378422671
It's a whole story though, MGSV only gets about halfway through its story before you get some disjointed cutscenes and story mission and then the rest of the story through some unlockable end game audio files

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>>378422750

>>378422023
Just you wait

>>378422820
>MGSV only gets about halfway through its story
Okay, here's the first sign that you're retarded. First, the main story is finished by the time Mission 31 ends. MGSV follows Peace Walker's structure very closely(only this time the main story is one big chapter instead of 4 smaller ones). Both games have an additional 'epilogue' chapter that isn't called epilogue.

The fact that you think it was only halfway done shows how little attention you actually payed to the story. You're an idiot.

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MGSV (GZ+TPP) is the best game of the last 10 years, and makes a compelling argument for best MGS game of all time. The scope, scale, and intricacy of the on-disc content is unrivaled for not just its genre, but any genre.

The most common and vociferous arguments against it are mostly extraneous to the shipped content (marketing, personal hype, and content deemed unsuitable for release [Chapter 3]), unreasonable expectations of the open world genre (>muh heavily populated wilderness), or misunderstanding the ingenuity of plot delivery (the threat to spoken language is conveyed mostly through the spoken language itself [cassette tapes]).

You are not a video game director, as much as you fashion yourself to be one.

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>>378422846
superb argument

>>378422023
pic unrelated i presume

>>378422750
>So is V.
It clearly isn't.
Irrespective of episode 51 and the extra stuff not in the trailers, the pacing of chapter 2 makes no sense at all in the context of the first chapter unless you account for it being rushed. The repetition in chapter 2 and cobbled together cutscenes say it all, then having to replay the entire first mission again just to unlock an extra 3 minutes of cutscene.
>If you didn't understand V's story you're either too stupid for a fucking video game story or you ignored the tapes.
I didn't say I didn't understand it, it's just the combination of sparse cutscenes and volumes of audio tapes just made it totally disjointed. The final twist makes absolutely no difference to the story of the game at all, and wouldn't make any difference to someone who hadn't played the other games.
>perfectly crafted Afghanistan and African environments don't offer that
You gave yourself away there
>It's only as repetitive as you make it be.
Fucking lol

>>378423124
>people think previous games wernt repetitive

Yeah tranqing dudes in the head down narrow corridors sure isnt repetitive at all.

MGS2
Nier
DKC: Returns


MGSV is shit anyway
>>378422642
Because it has no level design whatsoever

>>378423124
>It clearly isn't.
>Irrespective of episode 51 and the extra stuff not in the trailers, the pacing of chapter 2 makes no sense at all in the context of the first chapter unless you account for it being rushed. The repetition in chapter 2 and cobbled together cutscenes say it all, then having to replay the entire first mission again just to unlock an extra 3 minutes of cutscene.
It clearly is.
>Episode 51
Confirmed DLC, was never supposed to be in the game at launch, even when it was being worked on. Source: official twitter
>extra stuff not in the trailers
Like?
>all the chapter 2 stuff
You didn't play Peace Walker, did you?
>fucking lol
again, superb argument. but it really is as repetitive as you make it.

>>378423002
How is the main story at an end?
You can clearly see from the preview to chapter 2 and the way in which chapter 1 ended that it was setting up for something just as big.
If you really think that the first chapter is "the main story" then you probably didn't even finish the game. Also saying it's "one big chapter" also adds to that, as the majority of it is filler anyway.
If you really think that chapter 1 is the main story then it would be the shortest mgs game to date and the one where the least happens. It also wouldn't relate to the rest of the series in any meaningful way whatsoever.

>>378423291
>because it has no level design whatsoever
Are you genuinely retarded?

>>378423291
>play in a level that was designed
>no level design

Shit, did I get Kojimbo'd?

>>378422023
Agree, replayed it for the first time since release and it's not that bad.

>>378423298
There's no point in having an argument with you as the main point of my argument you countered with just a statement of the opposite without any support.
The majority of your reply focused on the trailers and the episode 51 part which I already said weren't really part of my argument but were supporting factors none the less.

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>>378423379
>Empty open fields is meaningful level design

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>>378423124
If I WAS a video game director, I would go back in time and remove Chapter 2. Release Chapter 1 (the true and inclusive plot of TPP) as TPP - with the variable difficulties on each mission unlocked after episode 31 - and then take another year or two to complete episode 51, breaking it into multiple episodes on the new jungle/island map. Release this then (TPP Chapter 2 and the multiple episodes of 51/Chapter 3) as The Children's Crusade to finish the MGSV trilogy.

Just think what could have been.... GZ + TPP + TCC as the true epic of Venom Snake. 150 hours of pure gameplay perfection, finally silencing all the critics and earning a perfect 100 metacritic score, never to be matched.

>>378423486
>open fields in a desert

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW
Where are mt linear corriders to restrict me and funnel me into enemies?

>>378423486
the argument is not whether its good or not, just that its better than 4. 4s level design was shit outside chapter 1.

>>378423616
Setting doesn't excuse the no level design
If it doesn't work, just change the setting
>>378423646
This I could accept, even though I don't agree

>>378423079

What I dont get is why anyone gives a fuck about scope and scale in a MGS game? I want 15ish hour long SP campaign, which is for the most part a series of well designed outdoor and indoor areas, with cheesy dialog, great boss fights, interesting characters, twists and whatever else we get.

What I dont want is a 30+ hour slog on a giant dessert with objective icons littered all over the map.

MGS V had the worst boss fights of the entire series.
>>378423298
Yeah MGS V isn't repetitive if you want none of the upgrades or weapons you unlock by doing the same boring shit over and over again. >>378423616
Enemies who can't spot you 70m away isn't all that great either.

>>378423330
>How is the main story at an end?
Because the main part of the game, 'Revenge', is done? Because the antagonist is fucking dead?
>You can clearly see from the preview to chapter 2 and the way in which chapter 1 ended that it was setting up for something just as big
It wasn't setting up anything, just the fact that even after all the shit they went through, everything was still the same. Kaz lost the thing he wanted revenge against, he still felt empty and shifted his thirst for revenge against imaginary enemies.
>If you really think that the first chapter is "the main story" then you probably didn't even finish the game.
Yeah, I guess the main story in a game about the Peace Walker guys getting revenge is a MGSV + another 50 hour Metal Gear 1 remake that has nothing to do with the themes of the game
> Also saying it's "one big chapter" also adds to that, as the majority of it is filler anyway.
It's definitely not filler. Kojima wanted it to feel like a TV show, and it really is a season of a TV show. Smaller moments that actually tie into the story (if you bother to listen to the dialogue), followed by bigger events that they lead to.

>If you really think that chapter 1 is the main story then it would be the shortest mgs game to date and the one where the least happens.
35-40 hours just for Chapter 1 makes it the longest in the series. By a large margin.
> It also wouldn't relate to the rest of the series in any meaningful way whatsoever
It's a prequel. It's also more relevant than Peace Walker.

>>378423486
kek
It's a fucking desert, autist. It's like a hub that connects all main bases, that are well designed and all that.

>>378423842
True I would have liked longer sightlines on enemies so you could have sneaky shoot outs from 100m away instead or walking right up to them 10m away

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>>378423961
>that are well designed and all that.

>>378423842
>MGS V had the worst boss fights of the entire series
Peace Walker and 4 had worse fights. All of PW's were horrendous, and 4's only good one was Crying Wolf. The Ocelot one is nostalgia fanwank.

>MGS V had the worst boss fights of the entire series.
>one of the core strengths of the series
V-anon will defend this. And rant about how the plot is paced just fine instead.

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>>378422452

>>378424009
nice argument
>>378424053
>one of the core strenghts of the series
>only MGS1 and MGS3 had good bosses

>>378424034
Wolf/Raven in 4 are better than any V "boss fight"

>>378422023
>Ds3

>>378422023
>Unpopular opinion
mgsv is my favorite game no lie

>>378424170
Raging Raven? Kek. The shooting mechanics alone make that one of the shittiest bosses in the series. Both Quiet and Sahelanthropus were better.

>>378424034
Peace Walker had boss fights.

There's hardly anything that can apply as a "boss fight" in V.

>>378424230
>Lying on the Internet

>>378423486
>top tier world design
>containing some pretty good (level designed) locations
Not even halfway through and already know some of these places will be etched into my brain forever.

>>378424167
3 only had The Boss, The End and possibly The Fury
The rest were all garbage.
Still way more than 2 and 4 at least.

>>378423981
You can sprint 70m away from enemies looking in your direction.
>>378424034
PW had fun boss fights and MGS V doesn't have a single good boss fight.

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>>378424326
>PW had fun boss fights

>>378423862
>It's definitely not filler.
You've deluded yourself

>>378424246
Quiet, Sahelanthropus, Eli, Sniper Unit, Armor Unit
>>378424326
>PW had fun boss fights
>shooting a bullet sponge for 25 minutes is fun
go fuck yourself

>>378424274
Im not, the story is shit but gameplay is next to none

>>378423727
>chapter 1
no complaints here, not gonna spend time talking about its strengths
>chapter 2
kind of lame, its a double helix corridor. you are usually on one of two paths that eventually comes to an intersection where you can switch paths again. the weapons factory right before you meet drebin adds a little variety, to available pathways, but other than that its pretty meh. final shootout is too long and drawn out
>chapter 3
garbage, plays the exact same every damn time.
>chapter 4
just plays on nostalgia of first game, doesnt bring much new.
>chapter 5
its a 2 room chapter, and one of those rooms is a boss room. the deck of arsenal was really limited in how you can approach it.

>>378423981

Doubling the sight range on enemies with mods really does improve MGSV drastically.

>>378424567
Yeah, as I said, I can see why you would think that, but MGS4 at least didn't feel all samey for me, and ended fast instead of dragging me for 50+ hours of same and same and same

>>378424385
not that anon but I liked the peace walker fight and cocoon fight.
The Sahelanthropus fight is the easiest and shallowest in the series, it's literally just run or drive backwards while shooting

>>378422629
>No MSX2, have to emulate it through the other games
Boy, you don't even have your wings yet. How do you expect to live in this outer heaven?

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>>378424385
PW had fun boss fights.
>>378424518
You used guns instead of RPGs?

i'm in ur thread, joostenposting
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OwfyzmVxofA

>>378424518
Quiet may be the most genuine boss fight. Everything else is just so generic, there's nothing special about any of it.

I adore MGSV. The emergent gameplay, player agency and it's very open nature with so many ways to complete objectives makes it really good. I've played through the MGS series once, but I never cared much for the story, so I wasn't disappointed by the story in V.

>>378424518
>shooting a bullet sponge for 25 minutes because I couldn't upgrade shit
>implying there's much grinding

>>378422023
You don't come to /v/ for accurate reviews.
You come to /v/ to find out about obscure games, try them and make your own opinion.

I would never take anything anyone here says for granted.

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>>378424246

>There's hardly anything that can apply as a "boss fight" in V.

How high are you right now?

Or are you so fucking retarded that you've actually started to believe your own bullshit?

>>378423081

No amount of words can fix a retard

>>378424858
>big enemy that shoots missiles
>"boss fight"
>zero strategy nor specific approach required

Shooting helicopters is more fun than that.

>>378424710
I used RPGs, it still took way too long.

>>378424778
Also, forgot the mention how fluid the controls are and how well the game runs. Just amazing.

MGSV is mediocre, though.

>>378424957

Thanks for confirming that you didn't even finish chapter 1.

>>378424957
>moving the goalposts

Here are some Metal Gear bosses:
>avoid bullets
>shoot
>zero strategy nor specific approach required

>>378422023
It was more that it was half a game and it didn't make the story and lore fags cum. Overall its one of the best MGS in terms of gameplay. But its a half finished game.

>>378425096
>half finished
>one mission got canned

>>378424971
It takes like 15 minutes to defeat them at worst..

>>378425032
Ok.

>>378425075
Here are some more:
>dive into water to avoid killer bees
>spot him in the greenery or shoot his bird
>move without making any noise
>disable the bombs he placed
>lure him into claymores
>avoid traps and find him with thermal vision
>turns your TV off

Stop pretending you're retarded.

>>378425223
There's only one mission we know for certain was canned. We don't know exactly how much was canned, though we do have indications based on unused content, trailers and early interviews.

But it doesn't take much brain cells to realize a large chunk is missing from it.

>>378426478
>shoot big robot

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>>378422236
Oldest trick in the book. We fall for it everytime.

Some of us even give him money. We are legit dummies.

>>378426637
>unused content, trailers and early interviews
like?
go ahead and give examples

You post a thread on /v/ talking about underrated games and put MGSV as the fucking OP. You sir, are a faggot.

>new game that is fun and inventive is realized and is acclaimed by bother critics and consumers
>/v/ pretends to hate it to be contrarian and special

What's her name, /v/?

>>378427220
mgsv

>>378427220
MGSV

>>378427220
Mgsv

MGSV was almost as bad as /v/ told me.
Peace Walker was worse than /v/ told me.
MGS4 was way better than /v/ told me.

>>378427638
Switch 4 with V and you're right. 4 is total trash,

>>378427119
Animals and helicopters on Motherbase seen in trailers, guard dogs, unused Skullface boss fight audio, some Venom speeches, Skullface car ride speech assembled from tapes, guards mentioning places in their speech that don't exist, more companions mentioned by Kojima, possibly one of the niglets that was fully mocapped and had a specific voice actor... and then there's Kaz plot twist and eyes, Battle Gear, Mammal Pod, third parasite vial...

There's countless. Theories didn't just manifest themselves out of nowhere.

>>378422023
Undertale, MGS4, Metroid Fusion

>>378423124
I would argue FOBs are integral to Chapter 2, while still unlocked earlier, most of FOB activity is naturally done after finishing the main story. It leads into Nuclear Disarmament and supposedly the Chapter 3 title card, though nobody can vouch for what will happen should disarmament actually happen.

>>378427776
>Animals and helicopters on Motherbase seen in trailers
whoa so much content removed
>guard dogs
removed before Ground Zeroes
>unused Skull Face boss audio
Grunts, not boss sounds. He could've been a MGO character. Kojima himself said he never wanted a boss fight with Skull Face
>some Venom speeches
all in game, in the disarmament ending
>skull face car ride speech assembled from tapes
source?
>guards mentioning places in their speech that don't exist
source?
>more companions mentioned by Kojima
source?
>Kaz plot twist
The "Eyes on Kazuhira" thing? Nah, it just meant that Kaz found out about the Big Boss ruse.
>Battle Gear
Removed because they couldn't balance it.
>Mammal Pod
what about it?
>third parasite vial
That's mission 51

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>>378422023
Mgs4 is better than V in literally every single way. It has better:
>music
Sorry V fags cassette tapes of the greatist hits of the 80's does not count as games music. Fact of the matter is that theres not a single track in mgsV that is remotely memorable in any way that isnt a tape.
>level design
Boy i sure do love these fucking outposts in the desert, much better than wartorn afghani ruins, a remote african jungle crawling with intelligent enemies, a city stealth mission where going rambo doesnt work for once, shadow moses which admitedly is kind of lazy, but fun none the less, and a battleship filled with nooks and crannies, and branching pathways(which wouldve been better if it was longer).
>bosses
Nothing really even needs to be said, at this point only a drooling retard would defend rehashing the skulls a dozen times and fighting sally and quiet(two of the most boring tedious bosses in the series). Meanwhile 4 gives us multiple good fights (such as octopus, wolf, ocelot, vamp, and the ray vs rex fight) and a couple sub-par bosses and only one trully bad boss (raven) which still manages to be more original than anything in mgsV.
>gameplay
Almost exactly the same which is really bad considering mgs4 came out almost a decade before.
TL:DR retards cant see past their hate boner for mgs4

Such a lust for revenge

>>378428298
>Sorry V fags cassette tapes of the greatist hits of the 80's does not count as games music. Fact of the matter is that theres not a single track in mgsV that is remotely memorable in any way that isnt a tape.
I can name at least 25 songs right now that are more memorable than past MGS game soundtracks.
>level design
It's great in bases, where the sneaking happens.
>bosses
the ones in 4 were a joke
only good one was Crying Wolf
>gameplay
V is mechanically superior. Probably the best mechanics of all time, it's so fluid and nice.

FUCK OFF

>>378427703
This, V isnt nearly as bad as people say, while 4 is just as bad as everyone said with 2 hours of gameplay max.

https://youtu.be/GJVxPAiB7as
Post a better vidya trailer.
You can't.

>>378428676
3 is the worst level in the entire series. A complete and utter shitshow, I have no idea what KojiPro were thinking.

>>378428052
>whoa so much content removed
Like more than half of the life on Motherbase? It's fucking dead in the release version.
>removed before Ground Zeroes
How do you know? Still, it is cut content? That's great to hear. Bait bottle possibly linked to it too.
>Grunts, not boss sounds. He could've been a MGO character. Kojima himself said he never wanted a boss fight with Skull Face
There's more than grunts anon.
>all in game, in the disarmament ending
Hahaha, no. They're uploaded somewhere on soundcloud, go find them.
>source?
Me. The naming of files doesn't fit cutscenes, it's consistent with tapes, and background noise along with tone vary too heavily to correspond to a single, consistent recording.
>source?
Play the fucking game.
>source?
Some old interview, try finding something by yourself for once.
>The "Eyes on Kazuhira" thing? Nah, it just meant that Kaz found out about the Big Boss ruse.
Or not? What about his eyes? Or his missing arm and leg, and him being Solid's instructor.
>Removed because they couldn't balance it.
So it's unused content?
>what about i?
Mammal Pod could be Patriot AI. Or not. It's left unexplained.
>third parasite vial
No. The THIRD. The canister can hold three, Boss finds only two inside, one is destroyed in the fire, one is stolen by Mantis. WHERE IS THE THIRD.

Shit nigga you're fucking clueless.

>>378428298
>Fact of the matter is that theres not a single track in mgsV that is remotely memorable in any way that isnt a tape.
That's half true. The game doesn't make the OST shine at all. But listen to it on its own, you'll be fucking blown away. It's very, very memorable, but the game ruins most of it during regular gameplay sequences with Kaz talking over it.

>>378422023
Sometimes, I deploy in free roam and finish all the available side ops before bedtime.

>>378428052
>>third parasite vial
>That's mission 51
Venom throws the first vial into the fire, it breaks.
He throws the second one, Mantis saves it.
The third is "Very close to you"

>>378429174
YOU FEEL IT TOO DONT YOU

>>378422023
Bioshock Infinite

>>378429073
>How do you know?
Because it was supposed to be in Ground Zeroes and they couldn't figure out how to make them work.
>Hahaha, no. They're uploaded somewhere on soundcloud, go find them
so you don't have a source, nice
>Me. The naming of files doesn't fit cutscenes, it's consistent with tapes, and background noise along with tone vary too heavily to correspond to a single, consistent recording.
So source: my ass. Nice.
>Play the fucking game.
So no source. Nice.
>Some old interview, try finding something by yourself for once.
So no source: nice
>Or his missing arm and leg, and him being Solid's instructor.
retcons
>So it's unused content?
Yes, just like all games have. It's not "MASSIVE STORY CUT CONTENT".
>Mammal Pod could be Patriot AI. Or not. It's left unexplained.
Listen to the tapes, faggot.
>No. The THIRD. The canister can hold three, Boss finds only two inside, one is destroyed in the fire, one is stolen by Mantis. WHERE IS THE THIRD.
Nigger are you fucking serious? Like, did you not play the game? Are you for real?

>>378428529
>I can name at least 25 songs right now that are more memorable than past MGS game soundtracks.
Name 10 original mgsv the phantom pain songs that are played ingame that are good then you flaming homo.
>It's great in bases, where the sneaking happens.
Its absolutely mediocre is what it is. There is only one base that is even remotely memorable and its the one around halfway through the game where you sneal into the heavily fortified fortress filled with snipers, guards, and lights, and even it is super easy to breeze through.
>the ones in 4 were a joke
only good one was Crying Wolf
Amazing argument there how about you expound upon all these bosses you thought were a joke then huh? If you arent a faggot then you should be able to name at least three that arent raven (since i already mentioned her).
>V is mechanically superior. Probably the best mechanics of all time, it's so fluid and nice.
Its literally the exact same fucking thing you autist. The only things you can say are remotely different is they gave you more gun customization so you can come up with stupid op shit like a drum mag sniper.
You're a faggot with shit opinions, and i honestly doubt that you even played mgs4 let alone beat it.

>You're a legend in the eyes of those who live on the battlefield, which is why you'll have to handle this mission by yourself.
~Ocelot in MGSV

What did he mean by this?

>>378429291
Play the game, retard.
>>378429174
The Extended OST is God tier. I'm so glad Forssell is composing again for Death Stranding.

MGSV is a steaming pile of horeshit. It is only fun to dick around in the overworld for an hour. As a Metal Gear Solid its a disgrace, as a regular game its a solid 6/10.

>>378429487
>>378429572
https://youtu.be/dsvUZPlCop8?t=1m38s
you lying niggers are pathetic
why misinfo about this

>>378422629
I would get Portable Ops and MGR if I were you just for the hell of it

>>378429925
How are the psp games? Are they anything like main-series games either story-wise or gameplay-wise?

>>378429531
Dont think ive ever seen a MGS4 fanboy, what the fuck? Are you for real?

>>378429531
Name 10 original mgsv the phantom pain songs that are played ingame that are good then you flaming homo.

From original OST:
>V has come to
>Afghanistan's a big place
>OKB Zero
>Return
>Dropping off
>Beautiful Mirage and unexpected visitor and the vision fades
>Infected
>Shining Lights, Even in death
>Disarmament
>Metal Gear Online

EXTENDED OST
>We are Diamond Dogs
>The start of a journey
>Venom
>DD
>The other shadow
>Behind the mirror
>Disembark
>The First and Last Words
>Beautiful Mirage: what was lost
>Kaz, it's me
>Fighting for the future
>Let the legend come back to life
>Concerning the infection
>Nuclear disarmament
>Facing a new dawn
>Vengeance
>Demon

>There is only one base that is even remotely memorable and its the one around halfway through the game where you sneal into the heavily fortified fortress filled with snipers, guards, and lights, and even it is super easy to breeze through.
Mfinda Oilfield, Nova braga airport, OKB Zero and the mansion are all great you fucking nigger.
>super easy
then turn off all the casual shit, faggot
>all the bosses were a joke
first one is easy as hell, requires you to go through the rooms, find her and shoot her
raging raven is shit due to terrible aiming controls
crying wolf is great
mantis is "shoot the dolls and aim at her".
ocelot was fan wank
>it's literally the exact same thing
It's not. Check your fucking head you deranged autist.

Go fuck yourself with your shit opinions. You have the nerve to call other's opinions shit when you think the movie that is MGS4 is in any way good. Fuck you.

>>378429790
Finish the game, retard. and listen to the tapes, you just outed yourself as a complete faggot.
>>378430064
Portable Ops is fine. It controls like utter shit though.
Peace Walker is good, it's also canon and leads directly into GZ/TPP.

>>378430064
They are kind of important story-wise (especially PW, you need to be mentally retarded to play GZ and TPP without playing PW). They suck gameplay-wise: PO is just shit and PW is like an alpha version of TPP.

>>378422023
literally every game /v/ talks about

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>>378429487
>>378429572
>>378430327
>Q-Q-Quiet was the third vial! XD
You retards said the third vial was Mission 51, but that's simply the second vial Mantis steals.

At least when Caramel acts like an aggressive shitter he comes with a goddamn point.

>>378430106
Im not an mgs4 fanboy, not that it actually matters to shitposting idiots like you, im just sick and tired of you faggots praising mgsv when its so goddamned mediocre compared to literally any other mainline metal gear solid game. Tack this on to your blind hatred and refusal of any of mgs4s merits (especially compared to mgsv) and you come across as someone who has no idea what they're talking about.

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>>378430654
>praising mgsv when its so goddamned mediocre compared to literally any other mainline metal gear solid game

its objectively better than peacewalker and mgs4

>>378430564
I thought you were talking about the second vial. I never imagined you were actually retarded and didn't know that Quiet was the third vial.
>>378430654
go fuck yourself retard. im fucking sick of idiots like you calling MGSV bad when it's a fucking superb game that far outclasses anything Kojima did since MGS3. Fuck you for liking a literal fucking movie with dumb action scenes that shat all over the estabilished canon. You have no idea what you're talking about.
Fucking kill yourself or stop posting your retarded opinions. No one fucking cares, faggot.

>>378431026
This is foolish. I began addressing the moron that said the third vial is disclosed in Mission 51. If that's you, you're a double moron.

MGSV is absolute garbage. From plot, to themes, to level design, to controls, to mission variety, to soundtrack.

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>>378422023
Ha ha! You fool! You fell victim to one of the most classic blunders - the most famous of which is "never get involved in a land war with Asia" - but only slightly less well-known is this: "Never open a thread talking about Metal Gear Solid!"
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha! Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!
Ha ha ha....

>>378431874
no, the game was great, you just didn't understand it

>>378430196
Im not gonna listen to all the songs you presumably just posted straight of an official list, but of the ones i did check out it was completely generic orchestral hype music that sounds straight out of capeshit. OKB Zero was the one i was thinking of and it was the only one that actually left an impression. Nova braga is completely unmemorable, and the oilfield would be no different if it weren't for the cutscene showing the corpses, and the explosion. The game is easy as shit no matter how you play it, even if you do a naked procure on sight run its still extraordinarily basic in how it plays out.
I already said raven was shit, Octopus is a fun gimmick boss the first time going through just like mantis is. No matter how much you call the ocelot fight "fanwank" it was a legitimately entertaining fight that managed to also be fun with its use of cqc.
If you cant tell me how the gameplay is significantly different between the two then shut the fuck up.
Your opinion is indisputably shit if you think the half-assed, broken promises, mess of a game that is about 32 original missions is better than mgs4 in any capacity. Say what you want about mgs4 but at least it was a finished game with a coherent story.

Mario & Luigi: Partners in Time, Dream Team, and Paper Jam. Superstar Saga is great, but I don't understand the appeal of Bowser's Inside Story.

>>378432026
dude

mgs4 has no gameplay. It's a shitty game that got let off easy because it was so early into the HD generation. If you want to talk about mess of a game talk about 2 hour long mission briefings and a terrible second half that is 4

>>378422023
The only times /v/ was right was about NV and Bloodborne. These are indeed masterpieces.

But otherwise, the more /v/ hates a game, the better it is, and the more they praise a game, the worse it is.

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>>378422553

I hate open world games but loved MGS V. Spent 170h on the campaign before finishing.
Nice try nigger kike nothing you say can change this money well spent on an excellent game which I will continue to shill purely on the merit of it being a fucking outstanding title.

>>378432026
Please rewatch MGS4 and realise how shit it is. How anyone could say V is worse than 4 in terms of gameplay is a moron.

>>378430841
Being better than peacewalker isnt saying much and it being better than 4 is just your bad opinion.
>>378431026
>being a canonfag/lorefag
Off yourself retard. Im sure glad to know there were actually two big bosses and also vocal chord parasites the entire time and also a more advanced metal gear already built, that sure is in line with the cannon yep.

>>378432357
you totally don't understand how postmodernism works lol

>>378432357
Better than explaining how Big Boss survived twice, like how 2 and 4 shat all over any sort of realism with Vamp and NANOMACHINES. If they just pulled a nanomachine shit on Big Boss to explain him dying twice to Solid Snack it would be infinitely worse than just a decoy bodydouble.

>>378432130
>mgs4 has no gameplay
What the fuck am i reading? Do you retards literally just parrot /v/ memes forever or are you just pretending to be retarded?

>>378432215
I didnt say it was worse i said it was pretty much the same fucking thing which it is.

>>378422023
Dark Souls 3.

I get the criticism about it being uninspired and forced but the gameplay and the bosses are the best of the series. It ended the series with a high note.

>>378432621
Apparently so, judging by the amount of anons saying V is shit and the worst in the series. Retards parroting memes

>>378432601
That wasn't the point, the point is that mgs lore has never fucking mattered and in almost every single game made they manage to retcon or fuck something up somehow. Actually giving a shit about mgs lore is a complete waste of time.

>>378432621
have you even played the game?

>>378432198
You haven't finished it in 167 hours? That's pathetic.

>>378432917
Well if your point was to show you have terrible opinions about anything MGS related, good job. It confirms why you unironically think 4 is better than V

>>378432992
Nobody's finished it yet...

>>378432917
It's a video game, dude.

Consistency in the lore isn't as important, especially when each game was supposed to be the last. Requiring everything in the timeline to make absolute logical sense, and approaching the series as if it was ever intended to be some 6+ game spanning narrative epic is ridiculous.

Fallout 4.
At least as far as performance is concerned. Runs better than I anticipated.

>>378432809
V is a shitty incomplete game with repetitive missions, a forgettable soundtrack, and an incoherent story within its own game. Get over it anon. At least its better than Ground Zeroes and peacewalker i guess, but thats not exactly saying much since peacewalker was already the worst mainline game. and ground zeroes barely even counts as a game.

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>>378430196
>Beautiful Mirage and unexpected visitor and the vision fades

I cry every time.

>>378433483
>cut content =/= incomplete

V is one of the best stealth action games ever, get over it lol

>>378433483
Nice example of parroting /v/ meme

>>378433240
wow did you even read my post before you responded because you missed the entire point of my post.

>>378431026
>I never imagined you were actually retarded and didn't know that Quiet was the third vial.

Then suddenly you start considering Kaz, a backstabbing motherfuckers if there's one, and maybe he's keeping it for Big Boss as vengeance? Or is he trying to destroy Diamond Dogs? Venom?

When there's so many oen doors you can't be certain of anything. The only closed story arc of the game is Quiet.

>>378423124
Also the reveal is all the more jarring when your medic isn't white.What a shit show.

I summon caramel

>>378433613
now youre just low effort shitposting anon
>>378433637
Its amazing when someone says im parroting /v/ when everyone in this thread is religiously defending mgsv like their life depends on it.

>>378433839
>allowing black characters to exist on your hard drive

It's like you want to lose all your saves.

>>378434076
haha racism lol

>>378432985
Yes i did, have you? How about you explain to me how mgs4 doesn't have game play. Just because it has long ass cut-scenes doesn't mean there isn't game-play to go with it

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>>378424513
>responds to one spot in that entire post
Wow u rly got him!

>>378432728
The gameplay and bosses peaked with bloodborne.

>>378434192
>How about you explain to me how mgs4 doesn't have game play

Acts 3-5 and much of 2

>>378434393
act 3 had the motorcycle rides as well as the sneaking through the streets. Act 4 had shadow moses and fighting through all the robots guarding the place as well as the frogs, wolf, vamp, and it culminates in ray vs rex. this is most definitely gameplay, and damn good gameplay at that. Ill admit that act 5 was pretty barebones but i personally enjoyed sneaking past all the frogs stationed there, and fighting ocelot.

>>378434868
exactly, not much gameplay

>>378435131
The issue is that the original anon implied that there was literally zero gameplay and that it was just a movie game. Having personally played and beaten the last of us, when people place mgs4 in the same category as tlou it makes me think that they're just spouting shitty /v/ memes and have most likely not played mgs4 to completion.