Newish tank, level 52, about to do the first Heavensward dungeon.

>>378390310
everything stop being a babby faggot.

Take it easy, learn the mob positioning in the dungeons and see how much your gear can endure the punishment.

Respect the content.
You can only really pull everything in 50 and 60 dungeons anyway.

>>378390310

First dungeon has a bit of a higher spike in damage unless you have perfect 50 gear.

So pull it carefully.

That being said, you can pull everything unless they healer has the downs.

>>378390383
>everything stop being a babby faggot.

I'm worried because I'm going in blind and don't know what the dungeons even look like

>>378390591
This is patently untrue.

Unless you're shit.

Pre-50 might have been a slight issue (but not really) post 50 isn't an issue and everyone has good enough AOE at this point.

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>>378390310
You can't pull everything, most HW dungeons have some kind of gates along the path that only open with the death of some particular mobs

>>378390687
Yeah but 90% of healers can't take it.
I died so many times in sohm ai trying to pull more than 1 group at a time.

Fuck I wish they do at least -one- dungeon that isn't just a series of trash filled hallways with three boss checkpoints

Even 1.0 put more effort into its dungeons, and that's just sad

>>378390951

They tried that with things like Brayflox and people hated it.

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>post yfw PLD is still shit

>>378391131

What? Unless I'm grossly misremembering, Brayflox wasn't any different in format to the other dungeons

>>378391223
They better be, DRK deserves the MT spot.

>>378391223

>You can tank really well guys!

Oh look more bullshit that won't be relevant because every meta is designed for maximum DPS output and not safety

It's the same reason WHM will be shit as the incompetent devs are trying to push it in a "pure healer" direction.

WHM and PLD will be doa, whilst WAR, AST, SCH and DRK will still be the number one jobs in each role.

>>378391528
Actually WAR and PLD will fight for MT spot this time while DRK gets free ride into OT spot.

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>>378391223
>mfw still gonna play it
laughing @ all those WAR and DRK cucks having to press buttons to do something efficiently
meanwhile I will enjoy my anime on my dual monitor as I merely have to press a couple of keys through the entire dungeon

>>378390702
Pretty much this. You may be able to grab several groups of enemies before hitting a gate though.

I would suggest taking it easy the first time you do a dungeon, then increasing the size of pulls once you're more comfortable.

How do we stop WAR?

>>378391962

WAR will stop itself. All the bandwagoners will cry and flitter away once they lose the ability to hit insane burst like they used to do.

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>>378390702
why are the best FF girls always villains
why can't we have cool supporting cast girls

>>378391223
Looks fine to me.

>>378392235
>Sophia
>villain
She just wanted to fuck up the Allagans.

>>378392235
Because they're less developed. Square cant write for shit so the more we're exposed to a character the worse they get.

>>378392235
What's her story again?

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>>378392235
>could have had birb waifu or brown hourglass goddess
>stuck with Tataru and a blind cat
Why can't we side with the primals already?

>>378392716
Because muh aether

>>378392672
The Void used to be a parallel world of Hydaelyn. Igeyorhm introduced primals there, and then introduced the idea of trapping them in auracite. The heroes of that world defeated primals, and then trapped them to siphon their power. But the primals in the auracite eventually began to mutate the heroes into aether-hungry monsters. And the world fell to Darkness. Scathach was one of the heroes. She was possibly a Warrior of Light given that she's powerful enough to be called Queen. Cuchulainn was another.

>>378392870
Then she became the cock slut of mhach black mages.

>>378392870
Wait, is the Void same as World of Darkness?

>>378392356
yeah we should unsub the game!

>>378393037
Yeah

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Will we ever have another comfiness that's ever top or equal to Fisherman Horizon in XIV?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wMkMn-bDkqQ

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>>378393434
I really miss these old tunes
Hopefully they'll install it in as Fishing job last quest reward

>>378392870
>Igeyorhm
who?

>>378393941
The Ascian lady you killed the fuck out of in Aetherochemical Research Facility.

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I don't think they should be allowed to draw asses, hips and thighs like this when in-game everyone has pancake butts.

>>378393983
wtf I thought it was a man

>>378394104
>that au ra
Ah, in your dreams you femlet.

>>378394161
There were two of them. She had Lahabrea with her, who was a man.

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Which grand company should I join?
Senna a qt

>>378390310
Generally in the HW levelling dungeons you won't be big pulling. Only once you start hitting the endgame dungeons will that start being a thing again.

>>378394226
Twin Adders is the ONLY choice, anon.

Do it for Kan-E

Do it for Raya-O

>>378394226
Adders if you want to be a an Elemental cuck. Immortal Flames if you want to be in some Lalajew's pocket and Maelstrom if you like to rape.

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>>378394226
Only join Adders if you are hyur or elezen, we do not like lesser races.

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>>378394226
>>378394340
Do it for NOTHICCA

>>378394226
>pirates led by a tranny dictator who would rather slaughter Kobolds to steal their shit than put resources towards kicking Sahagins and Garleans off their island

>desert mercenaries who are the only GC actually brave enough to send regular raiding parties against their local primal

>communist hippies who live under the dystopian gaze of demigods but they have a cabal of eternal lolis and shotas to speak for them

>>378394613
Fucking propaganda.

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>>378394340
>>378394584
>>378394640
>>378394613
Adders it is then, thanks friends. Death to cats/potatoes

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>>378394613
BREHS

When do we get to fucking kill the elementals in the twelveswood? Those faggots have it coming.

>>378395059
When you pledge allegiance to Mhach.

>>378395059
If you want to live in a desert fuck off to thanalan, leave my forest.

>>378395059
They'll just do another Calamity if they feel threatened.

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>>378395059
>t. butthurt ahriman

>>378390310
is this game fun if you arent a weeaboo? serious question

>>378395364
yes?

>>378395158
>>378395252
>Garlemald bombs the Shroud
>Elementals react by killing Gridanians
Keep sucking that aetherial cock, hippies. You won't be around much longer.

>>378395408
Elementals are important to the world even if you don't like them, like bees.

>>378390310
Both vigil dungeons hit HARD stick to one pack at a time but if you're in ironworks i130 then go for 2 and drop tank stance on boss after establishin aggro

>>378395597
Elementals exist in every single thing. It's only in the Shroud where they're violent, reactionary monsters.

>>378390951
>Let's make content that people will actively avoid

Why are you so dumb, anon?

People are going to route the dungeon and it's just gonna be the same thing as a hallway in the end

Newbie tank here

How should I be handling cooldowns? How do I manage between saving them for big hits, and general damage mitigation?

WHO ODIN HERE

>>378390873
To be fair the first few rooms in sohm al hits hard as Fuck for some reason I seem to only reliably dps that first room as a sch

>>378395728
>People are going to route the dungeon and it's just gonna be the same thing as a hallway in the end

You can make a dungeon unique in more ways than just having multiple paths

For example, in 1.0's Cutter's Cry, there was a part where your party had to split up into groups, go into different parts of the dungeon, and coordinate killing two different mobs at the same time

We need more stuff like that IMO. I mean when you have 50+ dungeons you figure at least one of them would have some kind of interesting gimmick to spice things up

>>378395728
Why are you still responding to 1.0 idiocy?

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>odin

>>378395728
Man you really have no imagination, just like your favorite hack Yoshi-P.
Nobody is asking for non-linear CYOA dungeons, however there is room for dungeons that aren't literally just straight lines.
Maybe if this game wasn't literally about getting your tomestone wage every week it wouldn't be such a problem to have non-trivial content.

>>378391223
god damn. I think it's bad design when you basically force player to make macros or live with a bar like this.

like I see some shit on those bars that aren't necessary but like 75% of them are.

>>378395729
Learn which boss attacks are tank busters and use them then. There's no using cooldowns for ''general'' mitigation, they're used for tank busters.

>>378396103
More like only 60%

The rest are pvpshit or emotes

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>>378395683
>It's only in the Shroud where they're violent, reactionary monsters
You also seem to forget that unlike the PACIFIC and TOLERANT elementals that don't move an inch when shit hits the fan, the twelveswood ones actually get their hands dirty and help the gridanian pleb to defeat the threat

>>378395729
Most of the time I just use them while doing pull, aside from raiding you won't see many bosses doing so much damage it absolutely requires you to use a CD

>>378395729
cool downs are for trash and for dropping tank stance

>>378395967
Odin is EU yes.

>>378395967
Looks like the average OF post to me.

>>378396218
>You also seem to forget that unlike the PACIFIC and TOLERANT elementals that don't move an inch when shit hits the fan, the twelveswood ones actually get their hands dirty and help the gridanian pleb to defeat the threat
But they don't. The Elementals don't recognize differences in borders or cultures. Every human and beastman is exactly the same thing in their eyes, and if one thing is causing them trouble, they will start killing EVERYTHING until the problem is solved. As shown in 1.0 when Garlemald bombed the Shroud and they started killing Gridanians. It's the same reason Keepers and Duskwights are such a problem for Gridania. Because if they piss off the Elementals too much, it's the Gridanians who are going to end up paying the price.

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>>378391335
Brayflox is fuckhuge and Totorak has shitloads of paths, but you have to ASK people to NOT speedrun to the boss.

Every time they try a unique dungeon, the mouth breathing faggots that play this game piss and moan that it's too complex or hard and we end up with the corridor bullshit.

The game's biggest problem will ALWAYS be the shitters who play it

>>378396187
>There's no using cooldowns for ''general'' mitigation
Every time I see a tank who doesn't use cooldowns on trash because he's "saving it for the boss" I want to breathe in cyanide gas.

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Garlemald GC W H E N

>>378391223
>sheltron twice
For what purpose?

>>378396727
>Brayflox is fuckhuge and Totorak has shitloads of paths, but you have to ASK people to NOT speedrun to the boss.
So what you're saying is that in an MMO people have to communicate to reach a common goal? Wow holy shit what a concept!

Newsflash: this happens. I remember people asking people to let seeds in Aurum Vale live. I remember full Lv32 Bray clear for exp back when PotD wasn't so fucking OP on payouts. All it takes is to just speak up in the chat.

What could go a long way to stimulate communication like this are weekly quests, for example, an extra miniboss that can spawn in a dungeon for extra tomes, then people would end up asking tank "hey let's go out our way and kill that guy". That's okay to have.

Yoshihack wants to kill dungeon speedruns but the way to do that is to design a better game, not to put gates in your wage dungeons. I don't know how people don't understand this it's like XIV is their first MMO.

Oh, it is.

>>378396727

Brayflox and Totrak are still corridor shit. Having on room be slightly wider than the average corridor doesn't really make it unique

There's all kinds of stuff you could do to make a dungeon unique that doesn't just involve throwing in optional paths.

>>378396752
But my epic healer deeeeeeeeps.

>>378396727
>Brayflox is fuckhuge and Totorak has shitloads of paths
No
Brayflox have huge rooms, but the dungeon in its format is identical to any other
Same for Toto Rak, it has plenty of alternate corridors that are ultimately useless since you'll still have to do the same path to bosses
>The Thousand Maws of Toto-Rak in 1.0 had multiple pathways and 3 different bosses you could CHOOSE from, almost like an easy, medium, and hard mode within the same dungeon. The bosses had different loot tables, and depending on the speed in which you completed the dungeon, you were awarded with different quality/quantity of chests.
This is a different kind of dungeon, 2.0 Toto rak and Brayflox have pointless space or unnecessarily large rooms, but they're no different than other hallway dungeons in their structure / format

>>378396187
>>378396752
Long CD time: save for tank buster/oh shit situations
Short CD: bread and butter migitation for large mob pulls

>>378397240
Stop being dumb.

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Don't get lost, kids. We know a big field may be too much for you!

>>378397334
>not using the long Cds in massive first room pulls

I see the stale 1.0/wow shitposter is bored today.

>>378397387
Says a guy who's whining because he has to heal a tank instead of squeezing in an extra stone I for the epic speedkill. 99% of the time clears take long because the dps players are absolute hot trash, not because the tank didn't use a CD on pulling 2 mob packs.

>>378397334
>>378396187

So if this is strictly boss fights, I should only be using cooldowns to take big hits/for some specific phase?

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>people that do a full clear on Brayflox

If you want to level do a levequest or something.

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>>378397419
I hope this dungeon isn't some gay fucking faggot trial the au'ra twinks on the steppes are going to spring on us to prove our worthiness to get the plot device related to the zone.

ha ha?

>>378397635
I'm sure it's nothing like that at all, anon. :^)

>>378397624
>people who do full clears of brayflox, haukke, or toto rak

JUST
KILL
ME
NOW

Is it a good time to get into this game?

>>378397575
Other people being bad is not an excuse to be bad. End yourself.

>>378397281
>The Thousand Maws of Toto-Rak in 1.0 had multiple pathways and 3 different bosses you could CHOOSE from, almost like an easy, medium, and hard mode within the same dungeon. The bosses had different loot tables, and depending on the speed in which you completed the dungeon, you were awarded with different quality/quantity of chests.
You know gos damn well these shitheads will pick the fastest path every single time and berate anyone who even thinks about going elsewhere

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>>378396901
how about a Ishgard GC

>>378397624
>>378397701
I've never seen people playing a video game being so averse to actually playing the video game they're playing.
"I hate pressing buttons just give me my reward" - you

>>378397624
>>378397701

>New player
>Want to explore and see everything the game has to offer
>Everyone shits on me the whole time
>Couldn't care less

I just ran Dusk Vigil for the first time and my party was constantly pissed that I stopped to read all of the journal entries

>>378397797
See? Look at these niggers
>>378397624
>>378397701

All they wanna do is idle in the endgame hub in their slutglams

>>378397797
Even if it gives better rewards?

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>spend years playing healer
>start playing a tank
>try to do the same shit that my tanks could easily do even when they were super undergeared when I healed them
>get hit with the realization of how bad the average healer actually is

I never really thought about why I had to heal and rez other groups in raids to keep them functioning until I actually had to be healed by someone other than myself

>>378390310

go at a steady pace for leveling dungeons unless the healer is really good then you can pull an extra pack

>people are still buying my Grade 1 Vit dissolvents every day
>HQ price is nearly 30k

What the fuck are people even doing with these

>>378397936
You could just go back after the dungeon is finished and read them all. There's a library dungeon coming up with a shitload of entries like that, and a hard mode version with even more, and an Allagan museum with a few.

>>378397735
Yeah you idiot, break your fingers stance dancing while the 2 dps are jerking eachother off and watching Netflix. Be the beacon of masterful play and enjoy saving 30 seconds in a dungeon with your epic deeps.

>>378397618
Using CDs on mob packs can be useful sometimes, like in running the Great gubal library when grinding. But in leveling dungeons, it's not mandatory in any case.

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>>378397713
ye

>>378398034
>You could just go back after the dungeon is finished and read them all.

That kind of ruins the atmosphere though. The dusk vigil backstory was pretty interesting, and the climax wouldn't have been nearly as good if I'd done it first, then went back and figured out what the story was. That doesn't make any sense

>>378397962
The rewards would strictly have to be a higher tomestone payout, which would create the same problem but on a different path. Now everyone only takes the path with the most tomes

Delete tomestones.
Kill Rowena

>>378398063
>Using CDs on mob packs can be useful sometimes, like in running the Great gubal library when grinding. But in leveling dungeons, it's not mandatory in any case.
STOP SAYING RETARDED SHIT
IT IS 100% MANDATORY
THIS IS YOUR JOB AS A TANK
YOU MITIGATE DAMAGE

What are you gonna fucking lose anyway?
It's like asking DPS "Hey using damage buffs isn't mandatory it's just leveling bro :^)"

>>378398151
The library and museum dungeons don't have any kind of connected story like Dusk Vigil. Their journal entries are just lore tidbits, like how the six elements interact with each other.

>>378398063
Dial your faggotry down please. You're not funny and you're not fooling anyone.

>>378398030
Daily scrip turn ins. The ARM recipes are often tank gear which asks for those.

I got so sick of buying them that I geared up ALC and made them myself

>>378397936
You'll come to hate it to and become the same type of person you complain about

Genuinely not trying to turn this into a post your character thread, but is it possible to make older looking characters? Everyone I see in screens looks young as fuck and I like making sort grizzled characters. Are there age lines and stuff?

>>378398378
It's very possible. Most people just don't like to do it.

>>378398218
lol look at this fucking sperg using caps
If I still played the game I would not do it just to trigger autists like you.

>>378398285
Wasn't trying to be funny. People who have a significant influence on the speed of clearing something are dps players. And mostly, they're jerking off while you're hunched over your keyboard pressing like a maniac. That's the definition of being made a fool of.

>>378398367

Probably not. I spent countless hours helping friends through Chains of Promathia just so they could see the story. I didn't get shit out of it

>>378398378

hyur and elezen have older face options, not so much with the other races

>>378398461
>XD gottem
End your fucking life

>>378398619
Just report him. He's admitted he's just here to break the global rules.

>>378398296
I suppose. I've made probably about 1.5 mil this week off of them so I ain't complaining to be sure. Still I was surprised to seen the price had clinbed back up that high, for the longest time they were barely like 5k but recently shot back up.

>>378398619
Yes, watching you being so frustrated over a video game is very amusing.
>you don't use cds when I think they should be used
>therefore you should kill yourself

lel

>>378398702
hahaha oh man you people crack me up

>>378397996
I LOVE tanking but having to set the pace be knowledgeable AND deal with shitty healers made me drop it. I tanked a while back with my FC for one instance and a raid experienced healer joined and the fucker was stance dancing AST between pulls with no Fucking downtime even healing between pulls and I'm rushing. The difference between a decent vs df healer is crazy and it gets even more wild when the healer is good.

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>mfw I leveled 5 classes to 15 and one to 25 before getting a chocobo
I'm a fuckin retard

>>378398378
I don't think you can do such thing with female chars
As male chars you have balding haircuts and beards and mustaches, you can do something with white hair
I played an old roegadyn with a balding haircut, full beard and the Christmas mustache headpiece, all dyed white, it looked pretty convincing
You might get similar results with highlander males, not sure if midlanders can pull it though

>>378398784
You only get 6 Zhloe turn ins a week. I'm guessing it's peeps doing relic or some other grindy thing.

>separate token inventory will never be a thing

>>378399008
>I don't think you can do such thing with female chars
You can with any race but Au Ra. My girlfriend is a chargen junkie and proved it to me when I doubted it.

As a healer in a df group for extreme primals/AS runs, how do you manage playing like a proper healer? What I mean is, in pick up groups I can't trust anyone to not take dumb damage at the worst of times when it would otherwise be safe to DPS

Do I play conservatively, or do I just let shitters die?

>>378399008

>can't do it with females

That kind of sucks. An old grandma tank would be cool.

>>378398461
A decent healer can do around 15-20% of the dps in a 60 dungeon and much more synced in lower level dungeons

>>378399183
Do a test run first to see how badly people fuck up, so you know where you can fit in dps later.

>>378397419
>big field
>people find the quickest path through with the least enemies needed to kill

Come the fuck on. Anyone who's played mmo's enough know this is how it turns out. Players always figure out the fastest route and take it.

Even if you do something like make a big field and force X monster skills there will STILL be an optimal path to take and everyone will go for it.

>>378398496
>friends
Now try that with randoms everyday. I could wipe on leveling dungeons all day with friends.

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>>378390951
1.0 dungeons were pretty much slower-paced ARR dungeons.

Unless you count those open-ended caves/tombs as 'dungeons'. They're just PVE zones.

>>378399431
The /xivg/ on /vg/ is utter cancer and impossible to have actual game discussion there. It's a containment thread.

>>378399264
Pretty much this. Generally you pray that at least the tank knows what a tank buster is so you're not carrying them in addition to DPS eating easy-to-dodge AoEs.

And a fresh webm because I'm bored.

>>378399431

>why is there a video game thread on /v/?

Really makes me think

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Post em

>>378399731
Damn, that Ring of Thorn animation is pretty good.

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>>378399826
Where's your A4S/A12S mounts.

>>378399826
>no Gobwalker, Arrhidaeus or even Phoenix
Guffaw

>>378399826
>tfw All these mounts
>have no interest in any of them
>just use my chocobo

I'd like a fancy barding though

>>378399826
>no glow yokai watch
shitter detected

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>>378400108
>Sophie barding looks great
>Looks like shit on a snow white chocobo

I should have just gone soot black like everyone else.

Guys which mount to use as a Roegadyn?
Most of the mounts look really tiny and it looks silly as heel seeing a hulking armored mass riding on small birds and skinny wolves

>>378400113
>actually grinding your soul away for a shitty cartoon ghost that doesn't even fit within XIV's artstyle
no anon you are the shitter

>>378400362
yokai watch for maximum stupid

>>378400387
That's what makes it so fucking good.

>>378400362
Bomb Chair.

I love button mashing classes that have a shit ton of oGCD like MCH. What other classes are similar to this playstyle? I really hope SAM is played that way

>>378400476
Boy do I have bad news for you

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>>378400476
Probably BRD and NIN with the 4.0 changes.

>no wind-up Diabolo reward for having wind-up Calo, Echidna, and Scathacth.

>>378400362
Always bomb chair.

>>378400404
This. Roe's ass sticks out so hard on it with how scrunched up they get squeezing their legs in and hunching over.

>>378400476
Red mage is closer to mch.

>>378400476
For now, DRG has 4 separate double weaves in just its opener. Only one I've seen that were 100% losing is Internal Release/BotD

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Hey which tank is more fun in your opinion? DRK or WAR?

>>378401234
BotD is still in.

Power Surge might be gone though. IR is gone. Leg Sweep becomes damage-less cross-role cc skill.

>>378401303
WAR. DRK gets old fast.

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>>378394853
Say that to my face, fucker

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>>378390873
Sohm Al I've never had a problem with but holy fuck last night in Dusk Vigil I had one of the worst healers ever. I've run that shit so many times doing big pulls while this guy could barely keep me up on the bosses. He wasn't even stance switching either and was playing SCH. Blew my mind I couldn't even be mad was just confused.

>>378399431
1) xpac release is soon so people are talking about the game more, it's very typical of any game/expansion soon to be released
2) stop being a retard. Ignore the thread and/or hide it. You don't have to like the game but you aren't going to stop discussion no matter how much you whine.

>>378395364
game isn't fun period

>>378399731
Even the boats in XI docked faster than this.

>>378400476
SAM is designed for 100+ms peasants on the east coast to play, so don't get your hopes up.

>>378400113

I wasn't playing during that event. Quit for those few months.

>>378401820
Boats in XI didn't start coming from over 1km off in the ocean either. Doesn't really matter in either case since you're either there when the boat takes off or you're early and stuck sitting for awhile.

>>378402006
>sitting

You mean autorunning into the dock while afking.

>>378402386
1.0 had it easier.
Just had to afk anywhere in the dock area

>>378390310
>You can pull more :)

>>378402469
Tanaka doesn't get the credit he deserves.

I miss ToAU.

>off to listen to Bustle of the Capital

>>378401303
DRK, but I enjoy playing all 3 tanks equally. Even Paladin.

>>378402607
Meanwhile YoshiP simplified stats in both 1.18 and further in ARR.

>>378402910
Looking like even more so in 4.0.

>>378401563

Did you check their gear?

>>378403063
YoshiP says stats were too confusing for players in 2.0.

I'd like to see how players could handle 1.0's stat growth modifiers (upwards of 5 per stat), cross-class compatibility modifiers, and having to build your skill/magic/traits lists per class.

Shame it was released two years early and got hammered on (rightfully) by the community.

>>378403245
It's really dumb that there's no iLvl requirement on leveling dungeons.

>>378403317
This is the blight of MMOs now. They cost too much to not cater to the lowest common denominator.

It's going to be fun to watch Shroud of the Avatar and Pantheon close in 2 years of release.

>>378396727
>add dungeon with side rooms and shit
>said side rooms give bad exp and bad drops
>later on nerf mob exp even further and buff boss exp
What the fuck were they thinking.

>>378403376
isn't there one for the HW ones?

>>378403481
They cost too much to keep the LCD interested since they want to see new shit constantly, vs. content that lasts and is intended to be grinded.

>>378403317
They weren't confusing, they were junk. Accuracy has always been a retarded stat, and det is inherently a budget sponge that contributes nothing.

>>378403541
Not to my recollection.

>>378403578
Right. Heaven forbid a final raid boss has the chance to live for more than a week. Never mind more than one in any given tier.

>>378403536
They want people to complete dungeons rather than farm a spot and reset. Which is reasonable for the way this game is setup for you to run everything in matchmaker with randoms as opposed to finding what works better and organizing with others. Any moment people try to play in the way the developers didn't intend, it gets nerfed. Blizzard does the same thing, people really enjoyed Mythic+ and found ways to game the system a little for good gains and now Blizzard is trying to nerf the rewards from that because they're afraid people will gear too fast and ignore their raids.

It's always the same shit with those devs, instead of taking what people find fun and making more of that they're just trying to goad everyone into shitty activities that take the most time so people don't unsub.

>>378403541
There isn't one.
Shit was fucked on release. Had so many retards going in with i50 or worse job gear when the dungeon's tuned for like i90 or some shit.

>>378403718
I hope you didn't just imply that the lowest common denominator is the one clearing raid tiers week one.
Because if you are, that just shows that you're fucking retarded.

>>378403718
Most players still never clear tier endbosses, especially pre-echo.

>>378403850
>>378403856
I meant more how dumbing down stats and mechanics has shortened the life expectancy of a raid tier. Those decisions have the intention of lowering the barrier of entry for the LCD to be more enticed to try the content out, and yet never step out of DF 24s, even if they do those.

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Is it ok to be a cat if you aren't some kind of degenerate? What if I dress accordingly to my job instead of slut / fag glamor? What if I don't ERP in public like a mentally ill person? What if I don't dance naked in front of the Limsa aetheryte or on top of the Idyllshire stairs for 24 hours a day?

What if I chose a male cat because I enjoy their aesthetics / animations?

I also play a brown female elezen

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>Be me
>Unsub for a year
>Comeback to prepare for Stormblood
>FC is dead

>>378404450
>Is it ok to be a cat if you aren't some kind of degenerate

Be whatever the fuck you want, /v/ will hate your choice regardless.

>>378404450
It's ok to not care about other people's opinion for once, let alone this much.

>>378404450
Don't be a fag and play what you want shit I play a fem ra with a male name so I'm basically a meme in the flesh but I just play instead of making insecure posts like these

>>378404315
Please. The most complex and punishing raid tier in XIV's life was Midas Savage. It took 2 weeks to clear. By the absolute bleeding edge in terms of razor's edge progression groups. Gordias, before Midas? 5 weeks. But only because it was poorly tuned. I'm actually betting that you, yourself, have never stepped foot into XIV's end-game Savage raids, because if you did, you'd know for a fact that the claims you're making are wrong. Even Creator Savage, the easiest tier in the raid game, is still adequately challenging. It's by no means the mechanical dance that is Midas, or the raw stats checks of Gordias, but it's a decent raid tier.

No matter how much you "lower the bar of entry" for end-game, there is ALWAYS going to be an extremely large number of players who will never, ever attempt it, or at least wait until it's been nerfed significantly and, in the case of XIV, made irrelevant by either Echo or the release of an expansion.

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>>378403718
>tfw never cleared A8s and got a fancy midan coat
Why was that static so garbage?
Why didn't I leave once a month passed and they didn't kill A6s?
Why do the decisions I make continue to be less than optimal?
Why does everyone raid when I'm at work?
WHY
H
Y

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>>378404450
just play lalafell
people aren't sick enough to imagine lalafells ERPïng

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>>378404957
>He didn't ERP with a lala

>>378404787
Why don't you try pulling together a group for it? A few weeks back I actually saw a surge in A8S parties in PF. Learning groups, clear groups, farm groups, all those people trying to get pages. At least, that's what I saw on Primal.

>>378404729
So why have Savage and not just make that the base difficulty? You're ignoring that what their intention is. Regardless of what level of content you or I have decided to step into. How much longer until Yoshi and co add another difficulty.

And I'll give you how long the raids have lasted compared to WoW's. But I'd wager that's more do to with the pool of sock poopers in 14 compared to WoWs.

And no I haven't raided since First Coil. Have no interest. I'd rather they made smaller group content more interesting and difficult than raids.

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>>378404957
>people aren't sick enough to imagine lalafells ERPïng

>>378405176
Because there already exists an "entry-level" difficulty. It's called normal mode. Also, apparently Stormblood is bringing with it the addition of a third, supposed "Super-savage" difficulty that exists solely for the hardcore people to challenge themselves. There's no real details known about it aside from the fact that it's probably going to reward vanity shit like titles.

>And no I haven't raided since First Coil
Then your input is invalid and you need to stop posting.

>>378404620
How male is that male name

>>378405314
>Also, apparently Stormblood is bringing with it the addition of a third, supposed "Super-savage" difficulty
This is how I read it's going to be.

>Story
>Normal (re: "Savage" as SCoB/FCoB difficulty tuning)
>Savage (actual Savage like SCoB, balanced around BiS for the time of release)

>>378405314
>Then your input is invalid and you need to stop posting.

Nah, I'm having fun here. If they are adding in yet another difficulty setting to raids, and somehow you're ok with it. Then I don't know what to tell you. Especially if the rewards are vanity nonsense.

>>378405393
That's the worse path to take, I think.. The better path is to have normal (story) mode, which is already fairly easy, then give us the Savage we're already familiar with, then go the SCoB route for the third difficulty.
Hardcore and midcore raiders would be satisfied with the existence of 3 difficulty modes, and anyone that actually cares about end-game will likely aspire to improve so they can have a shot at the third difficulty mode and its vanity rewards too.

>>378405565
Would be neat if there was an ilvl cap so you couldn't outpower the content by much, and give vanity that was recognizable, like a version of that tier's armor/weapons with glowing colored bits or something. Or maybe something less stupid than glowing, since that'd quickly get out of hand, but more obvious than a title.

>>378392870

where do you even get this info?

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>>378391223
I honestly have PLD as my main cause it's the easiest to play. For extremes all I need to do is learn mechanics and dungeons is ez pulls. If I tried to main DRG or something I would fail horribly Though getting them most DPS classes to 60 hasn't really helped cause Palace.

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>>378404729
>Even Creator Savage, the easiest tier in the raid game, is still adequately challenging.
Only if you're retarded. There are precisely two "tricky" parts in all of Creator Savage: Lapis Lazuli and Void of Repentance/Communion. Actually, I'll be generous and give you a third in 2nd Inception. Incidentally, they both ask for the same thing: coordination. If for whatever reason you lack that, they can both be bypassed with high dps.

The most Creator asks is for your team to be competent and talk to each other, which you should be doing in a team exercise in the first place.

I maintain that Thordan EX on release is more difficult than all of Creator Savage

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I have a furious itch to resub but I know I'll ultimately end up alone again
Should I use the opportunity to transfer off Balmung on the new EU server that's going to open for Stormblood?

>>378405565
SCoB Savage was essentially Gordias/Midas Savage difficulty though.

>>378405532
>he doesn't understand why someone would want to challenge themselves with harder content
The point isn't the rewards themselves because clearing the fight is the reward. I couldn't care less about things like vanity items or titles. That shit's just a bonus. For me, the real fun is in doing the fights themselves, and the harder the better.

>>378405926
And you're absolutely right in every regard. Especially about Thordan. Thordan EX has the honour of being the most difficult EX Primal in the game, as well as the most aesthetically pleasing AND the most demanding of the entire party. I'd honestly kill for more encounters like Thordan EX/Midas Savage, but realistically speaking those kinds of difficult encounters are not desired by the majority of the playerbase.
Which sucks.

>>378405995
Are you in Europe? Because that seems like a pretty easy choice if so.

>>378405683
>ilvl cap
>was wiping hardcore on second boss of mhach yesterday
>i was the only person with ilvl barely passing requirement

I don't know how faggots will do content then, they barely can do it even with outgearing shit to high heavens. It probably doesn't help that Mhach is more of jump the rope than all other raids, but still.

>>378406169
I mean, that's kinda the point of a third difficulty. It's supposed to be fucking hard, not just hard that they give echo and make easy 3 patches later. I don't want to even be able to unsync that shit, it should be difficulty as designed -forever-

No pugging, unless you're the luckiest fucker on the planet and can somehow assemble a team of 8 strangers that actually do their job effectively and coordinate.

>>378406142
I am, I just enjoy Aether instaqueues as my schedule is more in line with NA prime time and I usually dislike playing a MMO on european server for obvious reasons (spent years playing games full of poles and russians, never again)

>>378406267
>this much distilled elitism in one post
Holy shit anon.

>>378406350
>tfw mixture of type a elezen and type c au ra minus the miqo'te aspect

>>378405330
It's not a common male name but it's a male name through and through no sugar coating it

>>378406350
Largely nonsense if you don't play with burgers except for roes and taters.

>>378406548
you're one race only not some halfling so make up your mind faggot

>>378406267
>t. creator baby thinking he is a "hardcore" raider

>>378406541
>Asking for challenge mode is elitism
99% of the game is designed for retards already, there's no reason to cater to their GIMME mentality any more than that.

>>378390310
your gear is shit, you gonna eat shit

>>378406610
I'm an abomination

>>378406502
Aether is nice (Balmung isn't), but the recent server move probably hasn't been too kind to your latency, it might be worth it to bite the bullet.

>>378406541
Man, what, this is about a theoretical 3rd difficulty that is supposed to be more difficult than the existing story and savage difficulties, and give no actual real rewards, just cosmetics, if even that.

Why in the world would you want the challenge mode to not be a challenge and stay a challenge? Doesn't just waiting out the echo patching defeat the point?

>>378406646
How does this even make sense
I didn't actually raid Creator when it was relevant, I'm not much of a raider at all anymore actually, very casual.

>>378405393
>This is how I read it's going to be.
No, it's going to be
>Story
>Savage
>Extra challenging one NEW fight <---- unconfirmed to actually exist, is just in "we would like to try doing this" state

>>378406689
>he think few hundred elitist faggots is enough to spend development time of skeleton crew on making content for them
I am surprised savage is still a thing honestly.

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>>378390310
Don't worry. The next expansion is going to ruin everything anyways and makes it overly simplified for the masses. You'll be fine.

Don't pull everything before the first boss in Sohm Al unless you have faith in your healers. After that you can go John fucking madden

>>378406818
>he think few hundred elitist faggots is enough to spend development time of skeleton crew on making content for them
The "few hundred elitist faggots" spend more money on staying subbed and buying shit from cash shop than casuals who quit after 1 month. That's why Yoshida is giving them shit however reluctantly - raiders aren't a financial minority no matter what you'd like to believe to make you feel better about being shit at vidya games.

>>378406818
This. They've tweaked savage content enough that a decent chunk of players actually try it out eventually, but anything above that is going to be like savage coil and wasted on all but 50 people.

Taking money on how many instadeath mechanics they can fit into story missions this time around

Will it be "every scenario" or "every scenario and required dungeon"?

>4.0 comes
>all pre-existing trials with perma-knockoff mechanics now place said players back on the arena dead

What I would actually like at some point is
Savage difficulty versions for 70-cap

>>378391574
>SCH #1
Not with bio, aero, shadow flare and virus gone.

Sch is turning into a whm/Ast clone with 2 dots and a dps button because it's too hard for casuals to do anything else, while removing an extremely important skill in their defensive toolkit. Fairy tether is probably going to replace Whispering Dawn too, so Scholar will be the only healer without AoE regens.

>>378406972
If there's one fucking thing I hate about XIV's content design it's "here's a fight, here's one mechanic that one person can fuck up and wipe the raid, please enjoy".

Fucking terrible.

>>378406936
Yeah we're sitting here discussing this 3rd difficulty and people are getting mad about elitists when I'm pretty sure nobody actually believes it will even exist.

Creator's difficulty is a good level (especially easing into the real stuff with pushover A9S/A10S) to actually encourage decent but not great players to give it a shot, instead of being some pie in the sky 'for hardcore only' scene. It feels like they're probably going to try and hit that mark for savage from now on.

Given that, it would be nice if there was a third, super difficult version for those hardcore sorts, but it just doesn't seem probable.

Any word on the expansion fixing the pet AI not prioritizing the shit you hit?

>>378407101
>he thinks fairy will have any other ability left besides the tether
enjoy being a worse noct ast

is it true you can boost a character to 60 once stormblood comes out? if so I'm gonna stop grinding dungeons/potd to level a tank.

>>378407176
One job per account but yes

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>>378404957
Lalafell are canonically breeding sows in heat

>>378407176
Yeah it costs a bunch of money though, kinda doesn't seem worthwhile unless you're a whale. Also skipping story is a different, also real money potion.

>>378407158
it already does, don't be so shit at this game

>>378407148
>but it just doesn't seem probable.
SE has already mentioned it plenty of times during talks regarding Stormblood.

>>378407219
>longs for him to notice her for the woman she is
>lustful thoughts of Arbert's loins
what
what
the fuck am I looking at?

>>378407347
Haven't those all just been 'we think this is a neat idea' rather than 'get the fuck ready faggots it's time to wipe'

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>>378407171
Honestly wouldn't surprise me considering half of scholars toolkit straight up got removed.

Guess it's back to 2.x mode and use selene for everything.

>>378407372
Koji's fanfiction.

>>378406925
No they don't. Balmung futa c@t degenerates and other erp faggots do.

>>378407372
warrior of darkness whm bio from the lorebook

>>378407148
They've hinted enough that I'm reasonably confident there will be an extra layer of some content, but it remains to be seen how that plays out. They could easily insert something between story and current savage to try to raise pre-echo clears out of single-digit percentage on all but a few JP servers.

>>378407372
Lorebook writing.

The lala wants the midlander dick.

>>378407372
LALA HOMEGIRL WITH THE WARRIORS OF DARKNESS WANTED THAT BIG MEATY WARRIOR COCK IN HER POTATO PARTS

>>378407397
>half of scholars toolkit straight up got removed.
(You)

>>378407397
that would imply selene will still have abilities
fairy will probably be a leftover from the past and just be used as dissipation fodder that might get a useful rework in case they butcher it altogether

>>378407394
I'm almost 100% certain it's been much more than just "oh, we think this is a neat idea that probably won't happen". It's been spoken about too many times.

>>378407428
>>378407432
>turns out she wasn't even really a Lala
Gay.

>>378407401
Pretty sure it ceases to be fanfic when it's in the official lorebook.

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>>378407372
The true face of the innocent-looking lalafellin semen demons.

>>378405801
Some details (like Igeyorhm being responsible) are from the lore book. Everything else gets spelled out to you first by the Warriors of Darkness and then again by Unukalhai

>>378406541
>>378406646
He's not wrong though. A satisfied hardcore playerbase asks for the least and stays the longest.

>>378407148
Yoshida has said numerous times to not cry if it's too hard. It's all but confirmed to be happening

>>378406972
They're never going to make any difficult story quests after seeing what a clusterfuck Steps of Faith was.

>>378407101
>Fairies are now automated
>Eos has passive weak regen aura
>Selene has passive weak haste aura
>Only abilities are Rouse and the Tether skill which forces aura to be single-target for decent potency

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>>378407678
>A satisfied hardcore playerbase asks for the least
>the least

>>378407418
>>378407578
>>378407678
Well, I hope you guys are right, would be nice to have some really hardcore jump rope back in the game.

>>378407758
Source on that pozhaluista

>>378407678
Your first comment flies on the face of decades of MMO history. Satisfied hardcore player is an oxymoron.

>>378407786
They've mentioned adding content in odd patches for people who have cleared savage. If there was a 3rd difficulty that's where it would be.

>>378407891
Perhaps.

The ones in this game seem content to have pissing contests over fflogs for entire patch cycles so maybe they're just a rare breed

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Are you going?

>>378407962
You know I really hope they don't fuck up Interdimensional Rift. Alexander sounded great until fucking goblins happened. It's hard for me to consider the fights in Alexander as satisfying as Coil just given the context alone.

I'm excited for Galuf, I'm excited for potential Dawn Warriors and ExDeath shenanigans, maybe a proper Gilgamesh fight, all sorts of shit to pull from.

>>378407781
>satisfied hardcore playerbase
>satisfied
Is there even such a thing?

>>378408214
That, too.

>>378408176
gobbies gave us the best raid fights this game ever had, stupid uplander

>>378408125
>pissing contests over fflogs
You can stop posting now, we get it, you're bad and you don't understand why people would find getting highest numbers in a game fun. You don't have to flaunt how bad at video games you are in multiple posts. The irony of complaining about "unsatisfied elitists" is so thick I don't think you realize just how much of a toxic dipshit you actually are. Apply yourself.

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>>378408214

If every raid tier was like midas and second coil with the current difficulty of jobs I'd be satisfied.

T. Hardcore Raider

>>378408307
And yet I found myself thinking at best 'that's kinda neat' as opposed to Coil fights being relevant to the story and presenting a realistic threat that isn't made out of retarded sprockets and goofy clown shit.

Brute Justice was cool, Nael was relevant. Alexander was a pretty fun fight, Bahamut played Answers and synced it to the battle.

Fuck goblins, goblin genocide when?

>>378401303
DRK, WAR is boring as fuck unless your pea brain is amused by a high crit number.

>>378408375
>you don't understand why people would find getting highest numbers in a game fun
Autism?

>>378408936
Well meme'd!

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>>378408936
Optimization and seeing how far you can push yourself is fun.

Especially as a healer, synergizing with your Co Healer for the bare minimum of keeping people alive.

>>378390310
Yoshi literally gated every pull for Heavensward until he started letting you pull big in some of the level 60 dungeons

All you peasants talking about raids and getting gear. I gave up that shit 3 patches ago to level every DoH and DoL to 60. ARM is my last class to 60 :^)

Playing the eternal jew and getting shekels is much more fun than getting gear and discarding it in the next patch

>>378409365
I do both, what now
selling runs used to be far more profitable long-term

>>378409365

>not maxing everything during the 3.0-3.1 patch lull

casual

>>378409246
>use Second Wind on cooldown
>get 99%
wtf I love healing now

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>>378408375
>being this assblasted
>using the "toxic" buzzword

I think YOU'RE the one who needs to stop posting anon

>>378409643
you are replying to the infamous /v/ scholar shitposter
i hope his job gets fucking nerfed to the ground and made unplayable so he is stuck healing instead of dpsing

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Please don't let them fuck up Xaela and Azim Steppes.

stop bullying ERPers. stop bullying lonely guys that just want to pretend to be girls and have some intimacy with other lonely guys. I'll never have a girlfriend, just let me have this without shaming me. fuck. so sick of reading the abuse and doxing I get just for trying to avatarfag on /vg/

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>>378409981
Shut the fuck up

>>378409981
Ha, gay

>>378410093
Wew

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>>378409981
Is this you?

>>378410327
huh that glamour is kind of cool, just needs matching boots

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>>378409981
Fuck off degenerate

>>378410327
>link to flist in their search info
>futanari
>cum inflation
>cock/ball worship
>extreme pregnancy
>bestiality
Someone get me off this server

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ishgardian housing when
W H E N
YOSHI YOU FUCKING LIAR
WHERE IS MY CUTE CABIN IN THE SNOW

>>378410718
>wanting to be in cold castle dragon shit poverty land

D O M A
O
M
A

i do appreciate ishgard's aesthetic, the housing would probably feel a lot more warm and comfy

>>378410718
Gotta milk the weebs, sorry.

>>378410718
Yoshida P said he couldn't understand why anyone would unironically want to live in such a cold, barren place so please never look forward to it.

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So how are you guys preparing for the shitshow that's called stormblood?

>>378411014
Isn't that the point of fantasy settings though?
Getting to enjoy the comfiness of this kind of environments without the negative aspects of actually living there?
Yoshi is a faggot playing lala anyway

>>378394226
Flames if youre not a cuck

>>378397919
The counterpoint is that I've done those contents in full, tens if not hundreds of times each. I don't queue for roulettes anymore since I have everything 60, but I'll be incentivized to resume doing so in SB (especially because PvP is looking to be much worse and that's how I've been grinding tomes).

>>378397713
Game will be very active next month as the new expac is releasing. Only buy the base game if you start, because it will take you a while to mandatorily grind through it.

>>378399731
This genuinely looks like a good thing to me.

>>378399826
I have no use for anything that's not a chocobo because this is a fucking FF.

>>378400476
DRK. But it's being pared down in SB and only gets like that post-50.

>>378401892
Implying anything is designed for gaijin.

>>378411127
By not caring much about it.

>>378409956
>Don't fuck up the most idiotic looking horse fucking race

>>378410093
there has to be more to this story

>>378406925
Regardless of your opinions on game design, you're deeply deluded with regard to marketing and demographics.

>>378407418
Yoshida's been 'hinting' and outright promising content that has made no progress toward release since 2.0. Stop believing his bullshit.

>>378409956
Don't expect deep cultural Mongolian lore. They will be orcs, noble savages.

>>378412770
Not an argument.

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>>378407615

>>378399731
>1.0 dungeons were pretty much slower-paced ARR dungeons.
No, they really weren't.
1.0 dungeons were a hell of a lot more involved than the garbage we've been getting since ARR. They were a lot more complex, and had tons of gimmicks in them. They were more like actual... dungeons, you explore, full of puzzles and traps, and not just a linear cave with a boss standing in your way every third of the way. You must have never actually touched them if you seriously believe they were ANYTHING like the ones they've been doing.

>>378414052
dungeons were the endgame back then and completing them with 5 chests was pretty much the equivalent of clearing savage raids. can't really compare that to the leveling dungeons we have now.

>>378414237
That's true, but it doesn't change the fact that the dungeons used to be a lot more interesting back then. Granted if they did something like it today the community would go up in arms about it, can't possibly have something that's not a raid that requires the littlest bit of thought

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>>378409981
MAN UP! Stop being a BITCH!

>>378416256

What if I like being a bitch?

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When will WHM bullying end?

>>378417125
In 4.0

>>378390310
Slow first run ever, learn what is what. Push the limits on future runs.

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>>378417125
>thought the "WHM are mentally-ill trannies" trope was merely a /v/ meme
>play the game for 4 month
>have yet to see a WHM that is not a humongous s-s-s-stuttering cringemachine using overly cutesy emoticons at any occasion possible
You deserve every bullying you can get

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>playing ffxiv when you could be playing warframe

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PquOK38zrvs

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>playing XIV
>not playing Tree of Savior
Really bad life decision, friend. But it's not too late to change them!

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>>378417996
I'm playing Waframe
Guess what
It's shit

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>playing final fantasy and not the superior phantasy star
it's like you don't want to play alone with high ping

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>>378418139
>playing ffxiv when you could be playing Overfap

>>378399826
I'm going to get those Garo mounts

One day.

>>378418267
>Playing a dead mmo that people only get on to ERP

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>>378418284
I'm playing Overcunt
Guess what
I's shit