Mighty No. 9 legitimately broke my friend's brain. He was

Nice blog
Im also a huge megaman fan but just never played mn9 and accepted that the series is over
The games are infinitely replayable so Ill be fine

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good i hope he commits suicide

he is mentally ill m8

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>>378336241
this
I can't even count how many times I've cleared MX4 and I'm not even a huge fan.

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>>378336241
>that the series is over

We still have RKS 2 to look forward to.

>>378335875
Inafune was almost dead in his country after got expelled from Capcom. No one cared about him except for stupid foreigners who had not play megaman games in the old days where nintendo was a king, but only watched RTAs or famous stremer's plays, and gotten hype from new inafune game without not knowing well about him.

Every Japanese had known that he is just a businessman, rockmans was not made by only himself, and he is essentially not a creative person.

But hey, its well-known tendency the nerds have, that knowing about old games is cool thing even if they actually do not know and play it so much as he is pretending. it was basically that they were getting hyped up by what they didn't know well about. Well, although there was some prestige element he had, because it was also well-known he was harsh critics against his country's game industry at past days, and that arguments were really comfy for westerners who were believing western eventually surpassed Japan. Ironically it made him more famous and built his capital in western world.

The problem is the backlash nerds caused. He was getting capitals from ignorant westerners by labeling him as savior of japanese game, that nerds are inclined to stick with. But, when westerners has finally found out he is just a hack and nothing but all mouth as well as Japanese has already known, everything of hypeness turned out the big mess. that's all of it. While I dont think it as bad as outraged nerd screw it, the game is surely bad, but in the first place, what did you nerds expect form him?

now, again, stupid nerd's love and hate relationship is struggling, but I know nothing except I surely know it's some type of repeating cycle. I don't think these failures were all his faults and he must bear every responsibility. you know, the problem is attributed elsewhere.

>>378336660
is this game any good?
I'm dying to play some new shit because I usually get bored if I play the same game more than an hour

>>378336734
>got expelled from Capcom.

He left Capcom officially months after being promoted to a high position. Unless there was some internal drama forcing him out, he left. His cited reasons was that he wanted more freedom and seemingly he felt he couldn't be promoted any higher.

>>378336837

RKS 1/2 is just MM4 with a magic girl skin. It's pretty similar.

>>378337135
i asked because I read the reviews on steam and they all say "It's like a 2D DS but with cute girls" I guess they mean it's really hard but I don't know

>>378337339

Reviewers are morons. It's no harder than any of the Famicom Mega mans it copies.

Supposedly it sold like shit on steam though.

I was hoping for a 3rd game out of it.

>>378337415
Guess I'll just try it out.

>>378335875
Sounds like you should have fucked him.

>>378335875
Your friend is a retard.

I love the Megaman franchise too but he is a retard.

>>378337048
It's well know in japan he was getting difficult to get along with high-ups, Tujimoto family
Everyone says plausible reasoning when leaving the company that they belonged in a long time

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>>378337656
No need to start calling names

>>378336734
>rockmans was not made by only himself,

I've seen Japanese media call him father of mega man too.

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>>378337783
What will you do about it retard?

>>378337415

The creator is too busy drawing porn to be interested and has stated he has no intention of doing another.

>>378336660

It came out like five years ago dude.

>>378338143
>It came out like five years ago dude.

English localization is not though.

>>378336734
>Inafune was almost dead in his country after got expelled from Capcom.

What about Iga?

>>378337415
>Famicom
>Mega mans

>>378335875
Fuck him. At this point it's best to move on and just forget about him. Fanatics make unreliable friends.

I feel sorry for the backers, and a little for the devs as well because they had good intentions, they just managed the project terribly.

>>378340767

In the end though, it was better than nothing though.

Mighty number lol

After my friend played Mighty No. 9 he started wearing dresses and trying to suck my dick all the time.

After I played Might No. 9 I started wearing dresses sucking my friends dick all the time.

Not sure why.

>>378344223

Man, I gotta give my friends MN9.

>>378344223
>>378344390
Now I want MN9

>>378344223
Even before playing MN9, my friend would wear dresses and try to suck my dick.

>>378344741
How do I get my friend to wear dresses and to suck my dick

>>378344842
go to a /v/ meetup

>>378344842
Show /v/ to him.

>>378344223
>>378344390
Shit I'm downloading it right now

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>>378335875

>tfw reading that never happened in real life

Yeah, go blogging some other place, kid

>>378335875
Your friend's a mega autist.

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I'M GONNA DRAG MEGAMAN CLONES INTO THE 21st CENTURY!

YOU JUST WAIT.

>>378339538
even the japs hate Konami right now.

>>378344842
Buy them MN9 duh.

>>378335875
>he loved Battle Network

Good good. But how did he feel about Star Force?

>>378346028
Thanks friendly owl.

>>378336734

Is English not your first language?

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>>378335875
>autistic manchild finally faced reality and had to grow up
now he gets to be pissed off for the rest of his life like the rest of us

who the fuck even liked megaman anyway those games fucking sucked

>>378347580
you know, I always though that Zero was very feminine

>>378347331

Neck yourself

He is a huge autist, a literal autist. Don't bother with that shitter.

>>378347331
>who the fuck even liked megaman anyway those games fucking sucked

Throw yourself off the nearest building.

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Mighty no. 9 will be redeemed with this

>>378348409

Since Inafune isn't asking to port it to every platform under the sun, including toasters, they might have enough focus to make a good game.

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>>378348409
>yfw this is to MM2 what MN9 is to MM1

>>378348409

Unless the part of Inti-Creates that made Blaster Master Zero are working on it, I very much doubt that.

>>378348409
>>378349063
>>378349137
This is an expanded version of a game that already came out, Mighty Gunvolt. It launched at the same time at Azure Striker Gunvolt and it's actually pretty fun. It's much more Mega Man-like than either MN9 or ASG.
I don't see how they could go wrong with this one.

>>378349063

MM1 was a solid game though. It's only overshadowed by MM2 being just that next level.

>>378349319

Thanks Ill totally buy it

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>Be a Battle Network fan
>Wasn't even phased by the death of Megaman because all hope was lost after Star Force and Operation Shooting Star.

I had hope for Legends 3, and when that got canned I really just tuned out of everything Megaman. The games that were coming out didn't wow me, and X-Over was the nail in the coffin.

>>378349319

>I don't see how they could go wrong with this one.

Easy. Inti Creates is making it.

>>378349645

It's 2D. Inti seems fine at that.

>>378349467
Starforce was still a lo of fun for me.

>>378350285
As for me, I like that they didn't completely scrap the Battle Network universe after it was finished. It should have been more popular than it was at the time.

That Trailer had me really hyped.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8ooPSUVink

>>378350497
At least it got proper closure unlike most megaman series.

What exactly went wrong with Mighty No. 9? It doesn't sound that much worse than Mega Man

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>>378335875
you think thats bad, this guy set half of his shit on fire after the MN9 debacle

>>378350974
Source?

>>378350936
Really?
Megaman is polished, has great stage and enemy designs and music
MN9 is an abomination is all those fronts and it looks like shit to boot

>>378350974

No way.

Inafune is just a self-promoting con man. It doesn't mean that "Mega Man" is in anyway bad.

>>378351121

Mega man 1 is a rushed, sloppy, and frankly pretty bad game.

Inafune and his team did much better on the second game. They had time to work on the game rather than working on the engine. It's much polished vs 1.

>>378351402
I disagree, megaman 1 is very good for the time and I still replay it just fine

>>378350936
Without getting too technical, the game itself was unpolished and the mechanics were constantly at war with each other.

Like you have a ranged attack to shoot enemies with and yet the game also tells you that the most optimum strategy to beating bosses is to get in close and dash into them.

Some levels will also introduce mechanics without giving you any chance to practice until you feel comfortable with it, other levels will take basic mechanics away from you at random, while other levels will throw an abundance of instant death traps and enemies at you in such a way that you couldn't predict because the camera didn't reveal them until they've already killed you.

To say nothing on how the game holds your hand the whole way through by not even letting you experiment to see which boss weapons are effective against which mighty number since the boss that you beat to GET that weapon from will show up partway through the level.

It's just unpolished.

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>>378350936
>that much worse then megaman

thats pretty much it, megaman wasnt that great of a game to begin with, it was mostly just the first, and the nostalgia factor. thats also the reason these games are "dead". the people who kept it alive with nostalagia either dont play games anymore, or have moved on, and with new audiences trying them out now, its dated and really not that fun when theres so many other, better games theyve already experienced, played and compare it to.

its like classic cars, model t`s or whatever. anyone who still nostalgias over them but actually wants to USE them as a daily driver puts modern tyres and modern brakes in it because even if it was the best back then, its shit compared to now

>>378353793
>megaman wasnt that great of a game to begin with, it was mostly just the first, and the nostalgia factor. thats also the reason these games are "dead".

Mega man at its best is some fo the best games ever. It's not nostalgia. MM2 really is one of the best games on the NES.

>>378353884
see this is an example of the nostalgia. this guy was assuredly a child or teen when it came out, and it was probably pretty close to one of the first few games he played.

>>378354128

Okay, what games are better for the NES then? Please tell me how they are so much superior to MM2.

>>378335875
>manchild on twitter calls inafune a businessman
>now v parrots this opinion as if it's an established fact

Yea nah. He made soul sacrifice and that's evidence enough he has 'creativity' and had the ability to positively influence mega man

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>>378354128
>People can only like good games if they have nostalgia for it.

>>378335875
>Spend this long being friends with an autist

Yeah, I'm sure this blog post really happened

>>378354327
none that i know of. see, the nostalgia factor and fanboyism for the game has completely blinded you to the original posts message. "because even if it was the best back then". just because something is the best, at the time, dosent mean it wasnt mediocre. if you ONLY have a glass of half mud and water, or half mud and coke, the half mud and coke is gonna be atleast a bit better since its got some sugar to mask the mud.

battlezone, the 98 one, is a nostalgia game for me. it was early PC games ( not first game ), it combined tank combat, rts and and 1st person shootan. shit seemed amazing as fuck
annnnd its also got a control scheme where you strafed with the mouse and looked left and right with the w and d keys, and the fire button was control. at the time, amazing, but that dosent mean the control scheme wasnt completely mediocre.

>>378354672
see, nostalgia, fanboyism. not even close to what i argued, but that shit covers the brain like a storm cloud

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>>378354627

>Inafune made Soul Sacrifice

>>378354627
The whole point of comcept is to just shit out concepts to developers while they work on it

He didn't make Soul Sacrifice

>>378354978
How is MM2 mediocre?

>>378339538
IGA never propped himself up as the sole creator of the Castlevania franchise and always openly admitted he wasn't solely responsible for SotN's success.

>>378355334
did any of the later games introduce any improved concepts or better gameplay?

>>378355491
They did but that doesn't answer the question. How was MM2 mediocre?

>>378355334
>How is MM2 mediocre?

None of these famicom platformers are that great. Thehy've long been supercede.

>>378347580
Post more nigga

>>378355876
>None of these famicom platformers are that great.
Why?

>>378355632
they didnt have the improvements the future releases had. much like in my model t example, those old original ones had bad tyres, bad brakes, no safety. just because it was the original dosent mean those brakes, tyres and so on wasnt mediocre.
so in this case, the gameplay, the variety, the mechanics, the graphics, the control scheme, its content are all medicore. much like most old games, if you bring it out today its dated and obsolete.
gta 3 changed open world games forever. holding left or right to shoot out the car door with no aim is dated. its mediocre. it being the first/best of its time dosent make that mechanic not mediocre.

nostalgia is a powerful drug that will make people argue that it is a great mechanic thats not mediocre

>>378336581
rofl that 5/10 girl is making a retarded face in this picture

>>378355459
But in the KS video, he didn't mention that stuff and it seemed he ride on the misinformation that people thought he made SOTN

>Building a game for every single platform

what a fucking retard, this will bite him in the ass

>say he's a huge megaman fan
>he doesn't know who inafune is

he deserves it .everyone who backed that trash deserved what they got.

>>378336660
I didn't know this game existed before and the trailer on Steam sold me instantly. Mega Man is dead, long live Mega Man

>>378356228
>the gameplay, the variety, the mechanics, the graphics, the control scheme, its content are all medicore.
Why?
>if you bring it out today its dated and obsolete.
MM9 had controls similar to MM2 and yet it's considered one of the best MM classic games in the series by most of the fandom. So if it was truly nostalgia, why was it so popular?

>>378356228
Not that guy, but your logic is wonky. Jumping and shooting works in 2 because the levels are designed in interesting ways.

>>378357229
because better mechanics exist, as the latter games indicate.

a comparison since you still dont seem to get it, marathon was released in 1994. it introduced free look, using the mouse. this mechanic isnt dated, its still used, and its the main way of playing thousands and thousands of games, and is a staple. the graphics in the game is dated, and mediocre, the gameplay ( it did have reloading, another mechanic not dated ), so on, so fourth. there are LOTS of parts that are mediocre, but there are parts that are not.

the only not dated parts of mm2 are things that already existed in mm1, like using a dpad to move around, a dedicated jump button, so on, so fourth. but nothing else holds up unless you have nostalgia.
>why was it so popular?
because of the other aspects, mechanics and gameplay features it brought to the table. and, well, nostalgia. the people who keep the series alive kept it alive.

>>378357689
jumping and shooting works in 2 because its 2d. when moved to 3d, they kept the same concept, aiming on a 2d sorta range, but in a 3d world. saints row ( not that great of a game, just an example ) had independent aiming, and is a better system. that makes unaimed sideways fire medicore and outdated. no one would use that nowdays and consider it anything but a throwback

>>378357914
Why should I listen to a phoneposter like you? Your argument is that everything newer is automatically better, which is stupid.

>>378357914
>because better mechanics exist, as the latter games indicate.
Okay, but that still doesn't answer the question. In a vacuum, where you have no knowledge on any other MM game that came out after MM2, what makes MM2 in and of itself mediocre?

Because if your argument boils down to "later games added things to make it better" then your argument is flawed because at that point, you might as well claim that MM classic as a whole is mediocre because you can't dash and wall-jump like you can in MMX and the games that build upon its formula.

In fact, adding mechanics that were seen in later games with no regards for how they would affect the level design of the earlier games is PRECISELY the reason why MN9 itself is such a mediocre game.

>>378336581
Pffff hahahaha
So this is the power of the hacker formerly known as 4Chan.
That is not a human expression you retarded faggot. Further, your desire to please stems from a lack of self confidence which you will naturally gain when you are forced into the world.
Don't fag out too hard or you will commit sudoku later in life.

>>378350974
This looks like a wet dream of mines, goodness

Show me on the doll where Mr. Inafune touched you

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>>378358051
pic related

>>378358474
the gameplay, the mechanics, the controls, so on so fourth...

just because i personally, in this hypothetical situation, dont know anything else dosent mean its not mediocre. if i knew nothing else about life but eating shit every day, then the days with corn bits in are gonna be better then the diarrhea days.

its still....shit.

>In fact, adding mechanics that were seen in later games with no regards for how they would affect the level design of the earlier games is PRECISELY the reason why MN9 itself is such a mediocre game
then yeah nostalgia kept it alive

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>>378335875
Mighty No. 9 was only allowed to happen because the Mega Man fanbase are a bunch of whiny, deluded fucks who have no right to complain their series doesn't get games like other fans do, yet they probably complain the most.

There are 10 mainline Mega Man games, not even including all the god damn Mega Man X games, with a metric fuckload of spin offs as well. But you fucks kept on whining that Mega Man gets no games and that Mega Man is such a neglected series that you let a con man fool you all.

It's the equivalent to a Final Fantasy fan claiming Final Fantasy has no games, and it still is very stupid.

>>378359150
>just because i personally, in this hypothetical situation, dont know anything else dosent mean its not mediocre.
Well how can you truly know that it's mediocre if you have nothing to draw a comparison against?

>>378359336
MM hasn't seen a new title since 2010 (and no, I'm not counting MM Xover). Even Metroid gets more new games than MM, and that series is treated like the red-headed stepchild of Nintendo.

>>378359676
you cant, but that dosent change it from not being mediocre. even with this wacky unrelated to the conversation angle your taking, it dosent change anything, and its already been addressed somewhat, with every comment. the muddy water and muddy coke comment? just because you only have those two options and nothing else dosent make it not a glass of coke half full of mud.
actually, thinking about it, it describes nostalgia perfectly. of course the glass of muddy coke water is going to be great if you had nothing else. you might even crave it even if you can just get regular glasses of coke later in life, depending on how long you acquired a taste for mud

>>378360049
Metroid doesn't have literally 130 different games in its series.
>acts like there's only at the most five games in the series
>buys into Inafune's steamy turd

>>378347236
I'm guessing he's jap.

>>378360751
Japs don't post here, probably a hue

>>378360213
>you cant
Okay then.
>even with this wacky unrelated to the conversation angle your taking, it dosent change anything, and its already been addressed somewhat, with every comment.
It really hasn't, your argument basically boils down to "it's mediocre and the only people who like it only like it because of nostalgia because other games have more mechanics" but that doesn't necessarily answer the question of why it's mediocre as a game based on its own merits.

I can look at MN9 and give details as far as why it's a mediocre game without referencing MM, so why can't you do the same if you're so sure that MM2 is inherently mediocre?

>>378360228
So you're saying that just because Capcom oversaturated the market with MM titles, it means that fans can't ever want a new MM title?

>>378361268
The Mega Man fanbase goes beyond just want. They're more obnoxious and demanding than Metroidfags, with far less justification behind it. If not for the mentality of the fanbase Mighty No. 9 would not have gotten as far as it did.

I've never really played Mega Man games, what's terrible about this one? I saw some gameplay of it and it's not a game that really interests me.

>>378358474
The only real problems with mm2 are subweapons not replenishing between stages and wily boss 4.

>>378361361
At the time, how could people not be excited for it? How was anyone supposed to know that Inafune would fuck up this badly?

>>378361362
It's slow, ugly, poorly designed and was made with a gigantic budget.

>>378361362
see >>378351906

>>378361518
By looking back and seeing that he made all the Mega Man games that are considered the worst, instead of blindly buying into something.
It took so many fuckups before people finally realized most projects on kikestarter are bad.

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i-i dont like this thread.

you can feel 2/3 of the posters havent even played MN9, the mayority doesnt even know megaman that well, and the rest are just shitposting and calling others fanboys for no reason.

>>378361362
get the game and form your own opinion.

>>378362026
And you're clearly a backer suffering from severe Buyer's Remorse
>y-you just don't like MN9 because you didn't play it

>>378361145
no, its "the game is mediocre, and the only people who consider it flawless are under the influence of nostalgia, because even within the games own series, improvements were made and shown to be better".

and i guess ill repeat myself...again, the third, maybe 4th time? because the mechanics are outdated, and the following games of the series itself shows this and improves upon them.

>I can look at MN9 and give details as far as why it's a mediocre game without referencing MM
because thats not what we are talking about, we are talking about how the older games are medicore with the knowledge and improvement of future games. its inherently a comparison. you cant have a comparison without a comparison, your just jumping hoops here to angle the argument into something else because you wont acknowledge that nostalgia is blinding you into saying its the perfect game

i have nostalgia for old games, i have one i love where you can fire out a car window with unlimited ammo. i know its dated, i know future games have improved on it, im aware its mechanics are dated and medicore. but im also okay with saying its nostalgia. such a powerful drug that makes someone refuse to accept that improvements have been made, the original isnt the best, it was flawed, but they still love it.

>>378361552
>>378361625
>>378351906
>>378362026
Figures. I was reading about frame rate problems and visuals fall kind of flat. I suppose it could be a decent mobile game on its own if Mega Man itself never existed. Thanks anyways, I hear a lot of hype about this series and seeing a game like this is underwhelming for a full-sized big budget game.

>get the game
I suppose I would try it as a demo but don't see myself playing it.

>>378362167
you dont know me, didnt backed or played shit, fuck you.

this thread is claustrophobic and hurts to see most of the hype was from people who just got into the bandwagon and made everything worse than it already was, and all that noise can still be heard.

>>378362438
now this is a smart poster.

>>378348409
Not a big fan of what I see of the "burst" mechanic though.

>>378363318
Then you're defending an objectively trash game for no reason other than you're a faggot who enjoys eating shit, and likely a very desperate Mega Man fan.
No one cares who you deem smart or unsmart, it'd just be anyone who buys into your delusion even just a little bit

>>378362431
If the game is mediocre, you should be able to explain what makes it mediocre based on inherent factors in its design and trying to dance around the argument by claiming that I'm "suffering from nostalgia" only weakens your argument.

MN9 is mediocre because it doesn't properly explain a lot of its core mechanics and will either add or remove mechanics arbitrarily punishing you with an instant death trap and the game holds you by the hand all throughout with obstructive tutorials that interrupt the game gameplay or prompts that tell you which mechanic you should use or by having a boss from another level show up just to explain that you should use their weapon against the boss of the level that you're currently in. There's also the shitty voice acting, the amateur 3D modelling, and its shitty animations, just to name a few.

Now, all I want you to do in your next post is do the same for MM2. Explain to me why MM2 is mediocre as a standalone title.

>>378335875
>yet another soul lost


MN.9 CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH IT

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>>378363685
>If the game is mediocre, you should be able to explain what makes it mediocre based on inherent factors in its design

5th time? the gameplay, the graphics, the mechanics, the sound, so on, so fourth, as the latter games in the same series have shown and integrated.

you can keep ignoring this since you cant counter it, im not gonna stop posting it.

>>378363928
Welcome to new /v/, where people unfortunately enjoy trash like Mighty No. 9, Prey, and Rainbow Six Siege while bashing on the actual good games.
This board has turned into 100% shit in the past few months.

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>>378350974
I never understand why people keep some of their stuff sealed/boxed. Unless you're going to sell it, what's the point of those items if you won't use them?

>>378335875
That's a cute Megaman and Beck

>>378363928
So you don't actually know why it's mediocre, you just FEEL like it's mediocre because you like the later games more.

I gotcha senpai.

>>378364335
>This board has turned into 100% shit in the past several years.
FTFY

But to be desu, it was always shit.

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>>378335875
>new gayme turns out like crap
>BOOHOOO THE WORLD IS SO DARK AND EVIL EVERYTHING IS LOST BAAWWWWW

>>378364454
How about the fact that the end credits are longer than the actual game?

>>378364373
>Unless you're going to sell it
that would be the point, poorfag, not ruining the resale value

>>378364473
There's a difference between one pile of shit and an even bigger pile of shit.
/v/ has gotten far worse in these few months alone than it has in the past few years, it's a stark, disturbing shift.

>>378338015
Japanese media also played up all the old Capcom fighting game promotional artists (Kinu, Bengus, Ikeno, Edayan, etc.) as if they had anything to do with the development of the games or creation of the characters. Being Japanese doesn't make you immune from miscrediting.

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>>378364454
no, because you agreed with me, the latter games do have improvements, and therefor, mm2 is lacking said improvements. it goes all the way up to megaman 6, on the same hardware so all those improvements could of been put into 2, but didnt.

>>378364596
Are we talking about MN9 or MM2 here?

Because if you're talking about the latter then I got news for you, most games back then were short as hell unless you were playing an RPG. It's why most games were so hard, to make up for the fact that you only really had like 6-12 levels and a limited number of lives/continues.

>>378364743
Let's agree to blame everything on the the 2016 US Presidential election.

>>378364890
And like I said, later games having improvements doesn't answer the question because the bare minimum of what you'd expect from a sequel are mechanics that improve upon the foundation that the older games established.

Super Mario World on the SNES added some improvements over Mario 3 but that doesn't mean that they aren't both great games, so why is MM2 mediocre just because later games added a slide and the ability to charge your buster?

>>378364451

I know, wouldn't it be funny if they kissed? haha

>>378365359
h-haha yeah

>>378365141
of course, and every improvement shows that the previous incarnation wasnt the best, or perfect. how is this hard to follow?

and absolutely, both are great games, but smw is mechanically superior. and thats okay. if i had to play or show one to someone today who had a wide experience of playing all sorts of games, side scrollers and not, id show him the smw one because its better, and less outdated. mario bros 3 is more medicore, but its still good.

if i was to ask you, "could mario bros 3 be improved on, is any of it outdated, or medicore compared to titles in the same series", and you say, no. nostalgia.

>>378364373
Depends on the situation. Sometimes it's easier to display in box.

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>people ITT defending Mighty No. 9
Astroturfing has killed the standards of this board.

>>378349467
I enjoyed starforce.
Years later and Sonia is still my waifu

>>378366236
It feels like GBA Mega Man fans give the DS games way more shit than they deserve.
Zero fans shit on ZX and BN fans shit on Starforce, both for not being the exact same.

>>378365631
>how is this hard to follow?
It's not that your argument is hard to follow, it's just that your argument is inherently flawed from the onset due to you conflating personal opinion as fact.

Just because a newer game comes out that refines the gameplay of a previous installment doesn't mean that the older games suddenly become mediocre overnight, nor does it mean that me prefering MM2 over other games in the series mean that I'm "blinded by nostalgia."

The other problem with your argument is that it creates a situation where MMX7 is better than MMX because MMX7 came out several years after MMX, which is about as far from the truth as you can get.

>>378366576
I like Starforce, but ZX is just way blander than Zero in every way. ZXA is ok.

>>378366660
>is inherently flawed from the onset due to you conflating personal opinion as fact.
its not personal opinion. we went over this. you really think only being able to fire outside of you car in 2 degrees and nothing more isnt superior? your nostalgic. mechanics still used to this day because they are NOT outdated and are the best available, like marathons mouse look...so on so fourth. just jumping hoops here, going back to subjects weve covered already.

man, all this to vehemently defend mm2 as perfect and in no way improvable, even after acknowledging that there ARE indeed improvements, in a post we specifically referred back to, just moments ago.

kids, nostalgia, not even once.

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>>378366710
>Zero fans shit on ZX for not being the exact same
>but ZX is just way blander than Zero in every way

>>378367196
But the plot is boring and bland. It's a metroidvania for some contrived reason, and that is implemented in such a way that every area is bland. The different forms could be great, but most end up being way too situational and gimmicky; weapons and EX skills in the Zero series where way more viable.

You might also noticed that i said ZXA is ok, because it improved the gameplay in every way, but the plot is still bland and forgetable.

and I like Starforce.

>>378367019
>its not personal opinion.
It is, you're just not willing to admit it.
>man, all this to vehemently defend mm2 as perfect and in no way improvable
That's not what I said and you know it.
> in a post we specifically referred back to
and took out of context.
>kids, nostalgia, not even once.
Oh yes, because there's never a good reason for one to prefer older games over newer installments beyond nostalgia. I mean, clearly Metroid: Federation Force is a much better than Metroid Prime 1.

>>378336581
>Jew glasses
Never post that shit again, Goldberg.

>>378367784
it IS what you said, and since you agreed, its your opinion as well, as referenced, now twice, in the most recent posts. tell me, since i asked, you agreed, and now your saying you dont, how are the mchanicas, gameplay and whatnot in mm3 to mm6 not an improvement?

>>378353884
i played mm2 for the first time this year after playing the x series and its solid. No nostalgia goggles.

>have a friend who backed the game
>it's KEIJI INAFUNE the CREATOR OF MEGAMAN making a MEGAMAN GAME dude
>told him it would suck before the concept came out the moment they said it would be a 3D game instead of a 2D one
>didn't listen
>first gameplay trailer comes out and "mighty" is running like he has an assload of turds about to explode out his shitter any second
>absolutely none of the cool concept shit anywhere to be seen like the transformation abilities stolen from enemies or anything
>they'll add it later!
>the whole dina thing happens
>it's not SJW it was just fanart!
>the cartoon gets announced
>they aren't mismanaging funds!
>redash kickstarter before mn9 is even finished
>it'll be a good game but i'll only back it after they release mn9
>game finally comes out after like a year of nothing but delays
>he hasn't even touched it
>doesn't even want to talk about the game at all
it kinda sucks inticreates has to have their name attached to the game honestly
hurts their rep more than it will hurt inafune's

>>378367551
You're still proving my exact point, you are unable to talk about ZX without bringing up Zero.

That's all I want, to talk about ZX with others without someone coming around to tell me all about how Zero is so much better than it.

>>378368429
Because, as shown in MM9 and MM10, you don't necessarily need those mechanics to design a good MM game.

Don't misunderstand me, I'm not saying that MM3-MM6 are lesser than MM2 or anything, the basis of the original argument was your assertion that because later games exist, it means that MM2 is mediocre and anyone who likes them only does so out of nostalgia.

You can shift the goalposts all you like but it doesn't change the fact that throughout this entire discussion, you've yet to truly list any qualities that make MM2 a mediocre game, beyond the fact that other MM classic games exist.