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What went wrong? Why in the end The Old Hunters couldn't

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What went wrong?
Why in the end The Old Hunters couldn't be as good as a The Ringed City?
Is it because Miyazaki fully moved on the Dark Souls 3 back then?
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>The Old Hunters couldn't be as good as a The Ringed City
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I've been with my wife for 10 years now. We met in high school, and I got her pregnant. She is and always has been a lazy person and a shit cook. I wouldn't even mind eating shit food if she at least made it on time. But she rarely did.
We'd get into screaming arguments constantly about how lazy and worthless she was. I felt like an asshole for it, but goddamn she was a real piece of work. The only reason I dealt with all this was for the kids, and also because the sex is great.
But one night, I got fed up. Not only did she get drunk, neglect the kids, and made me top Ramen for dinner, but she decided to give me attitude too. She was being real fucking bitchy. So I told my grandparents to keep an eye on the kids and told my wife we were going to go out and have dinner together. I drove maybe 3 blocks to a quiet area (we live in Oregon, it's not hard to find a quiet field) and I got out of the car, went around like I was going to open her door for her and let her out, and I just beat the shit out of her while she was still seatbelted. After a few punches, I asked her if she wanted to go back to her parents. She started screaming and yelling and said yes, so I beat the shit out of her again. Then I asked her what she wanted to do. She finally got smart and said she wanted to go home. So I took her home and dared her to start trouble. I even handed her my cellphone and dialed her mom's number on the drive home. I made her talk to her mom, while daring her to fucking say something.
Before that incident, I had never laid a hand on her. But I had always threatened it. I told her "one of these days, if you don't straighten up, I'm going to lay hands on you."
All my meals have been on time, and she just recently tried to make a meatloaf. It was mediocre, but I was just thrilled that she tried.
Do with this information what you will.
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>>378296110
This is my picture.

I platinumed Bloodborne in 10 days and it was easy.

I don't know why you people can enjoy a game so much that is so easy? Must be a millennials thing.
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>>378295954
It is
Nothing in the ToH could be compared to the atmosphere and feeling of Gael fight
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>>378296219
gael is orphan of kos reskin for pcbros and microsoft 10 year olds
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>>378295827
Terrible bait or terrible taste.
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>>378296187
>>378296110
samefag desperate anon
always creating the same kind of threads about BB being shit/easy...
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>>378297008
lol wut
They have nothing in common
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>>378295827
>fucking retard post
what did he mean by this
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>Why in the end The Old Hunters couldn't be as good as a The Ringed City?
This is borderline insulting. Not even a rangeban would be fitting punishment for you.
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>>378297173
I'm not op, but I did pasted this a couple of times because the reactions amused me the first time I saw it. I had no success so far. I think I'll stop.

I'm just bored and wanted to laugh a bit more.
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The only way TRC could have surpassed or even come close to TOH is if they finally let me kill those toothy faggot jew snakes
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>>378296219
>Nothing in the ToH could be compared to the atmosphere and feeling of Gael fight
The Fishing Hamlet
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>>378295827
shit bait
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>>378297832
the snakes did nothing wrong doe

the gods are the real jews, literally eslaved humans to save their asses
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>>378298205
>literally eslaved humans to save their asses
lol
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>>378297886
Sharkpeople were the only good thing
Fishing village
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>>378295827
What do you guys think of bloodborne making it much easier to farm souls and level grind compared to the other soulsborne games?
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>>378299296
how so
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>>378299423
The library makes it like you can get 12000 souls in a minute very early game

Pretty much breaks the game
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>>378296219
>a literal who vs the PISSED OFF orphaned child of an old god

different strokes I guess
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>>378295827
>>378296219

Apparently being a DaS3fag and being unironically retarded go hand in hand.
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>>378300715
>literal who
It's a person who killed ancient human lord, ate his souls and became dark soul himself
>PISSED OF
He isn't pissed off, it's just panicked kid who wanted to stay inside his father/mother and fucking spend half of fight crying
But I guess bloodborne fans don'teven care about lore their own game
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>>378301251
>what emotion a boss is feeling is lore

panic and anger aren't exactly mutually exclusive either
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>>378301251
>bloodborne fans don'teven care about lore their own game

lets compare how many npcs / items desctibe Gael vs Kos / orphan of kos shall we?
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>>378298110
>splatoon that high

What does it say?
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>>(((You)))
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>>378295827
>Why in the end The Old Hunters couldn't be as good as a The Ringed City?
Your opinion is shit stupid.
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>>378301406
Sure, let's compare how many people refers to the souls against Kos
and
Gael against Orphan
Oh wait, bloodborne doesn't even has lore, kek
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>>378301503
i honestly if your trying to bait with unintelligible senteces or are simply retarded
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Man I wish DaS 2 and 3 weren't made. Imagine how much less shitposting there would be. We wouldn't even be missing out on anything worthwhile. DeS, DaS, and BB already offered the full souls experience. DaS 2 and 3 are just forced Bamco sequels to milk retards.
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>>378301251
>It's a person who killed ancient human lord, ate his souls and became dark soul himself

That the base game literally never mentions, and is rarely discussed in either DLC outside the painter girl and the pygmy lords at the end of Ringed City. A literal who.

If they're going to add such an 'important' character at the last minute and pretend he was part of the series THE WHOLE TIME GAISE, have some standards and demand the writers make it feel that way. Plenty of forms of media introduce characters late and found ways to make it believable they were always there.

Dark Souls 3's DLC just fails miserably at making Gael's super long existence believable with no explanation and receives no comeuppance.
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>>378298110
Jesus, is this an awards show or were they told they have cancer?
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>>378301785
Fuck off, das2 was good
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HE BECAME THE DARK SOUL, LIKE THE NAME OF THE GAME, ISNT THAT AWESOME? SO BADASS GUYS
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>>378299296
Blanced out by the fact that perfect weapon optimization is the hardest it's ever been thanks to blood gem farming.
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>>378302073
LIKE IM SO HAPPY I PREORDERED THE SEASON PASS
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>>378302084
You're kidding, right? I can't take a step without tripping over some kind of blood gem or blood chunk.
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>>378302274
Obviously never farmed for perfect cursed blood gems before.
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>>378302084
>perfect weapon optimization
Loran gems are more than enough for the everything in the ng++
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>>378302371
Farming for arcane abyssals was probably the least fun I've had in Souls games ever
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>>378299296
What does it matter, you can overlevel with no effort in literally every Souls game
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>>378302274
>blood chunk

BB is one of the hardest game to get upgrading materials.
blood shards are dropped alright but chunks are Really limited.
in that aspect it's much harder than ds3 maybe even than ds1
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>>378296219
>ToH
>o
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>>378302545
bloodrock
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>>378301251
Orphan is the personification of the curse, it's the raw aspects of human emotion we learn to control, because it was created from confusion in the image of Gehrman (the one leading the attack on the village). As well as being scared, it's undoubtedly pissed off.

Gael is just a spectacle, the entire premise of his fight is an attempt to make things as 'badass' looking as possible, it's bombastic and blatant. OoK isn't subtle with mutant child crying at the moon, but it's not as hamfisted and in your face as Gael.
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>>378302545
Chunks you can farm from the werewolfs just fine
4 rocks per game(without dlc) is more than enough, but you can buy them for the 60 insight on top of that
>>378303116
Kos and her orphan has nothing to do with curse, they only started nightmare
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>>378303116
>because it was created from confusion in the image of Gehrman
lol wut
Is it a new headcanon or something?
Orphan really resemble hunters, but Gehrman personally? my sides
> it's undoubtedly pissed off.
You can spam emotions to him, if you don't get close to his mother/father corpse he wouldn't care about you
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>>378296187
I know right I platinumed in 5 days my gosh those fucking casuals and their easy games.
why they arent like me?
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>>378303554
>4 rocks
>Implying anyone would want to spend time on the shitty chalices
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>>378296110
Hello Mr. Cheaty Pants
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>>378303554
The nightmare that was started because of the curse put on them after pillaging the hamlet? The doll' s dialogue afterwards the death of Orphan links it.
>>378303719
Uses the same audio files, similar moveset, concept art has them in the same stances. They're connected quite clearly.
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>>378301791
You meet him in Ariendel, and he helps you kill Friede, the nun boss at the end of the first dlc
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>>378301791
Nah, I think he really felt good and not out of place
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>>378295827
Serious question, you guys who are buffs on the LORE of souls Bourne games, do you just read a lot of wiki pages or do you actually replay the game and autisticslly read every item description.

I've finished every game in the series and I barely know the plot let alone the DEEPEST LORE
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>>378295827
>>378296219
Is this a stealth salt PC cuck thread?
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>>378295827
>>378296219
Just how?
I'm just curious, how the fuck did you think TRC was better than TOH?
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Don't even bother.

NOBODY talks about ringed city and this nigga wants to pretend it's better than the old hunters
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>>378306867

1. Replay and read items, think about enemy and item placements, look at surroundings for hints etc.

2. Fantasize and theorize.

3. Go online to watch YouTube lore videos, see what others think and waste 100 hours discussing your and other peoples lore theories on YouTube and 4chan.

4. Repeat the cycle.
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OP's right TRC is literally the best dlc.
Demon Prince fight - 9/10
Gael - 10/10
Midir - 10/10
Spear 7/10
+ dragon armor mini-boss fight bonus
TOH:
Ludwig 9/10
Maria 8/10
Living failures 6/10
Orphan 8/10
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>>378295827

BB and DaS3 fags should be allies, don't understand the hate between them.

BB > DAS3 > DAS > DAS2 > DES
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>>378308885
DS3 > BB > DS > DeS >>>>>> DS2
You won't fool me MUH EXCLUSIVE IS BETTAH CUZ ITS IXGRUSIVVVEEEE
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>>378295827
I agree Dark Souls 3 is much better than Bloodborne. That goes for the DLC as well.

>>378300715
>Gael
>Literally who
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>>378308864

Wrong.

Ludwig 10/10
Maria 10/10
Orphan 9/10
Laurence 9/10
Living failures 5/10
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>>378309003
Nice taste, except it's

DaS > DaS 3 > DeS > BB > DaS 2
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>>378309138
> overrating since tasteless and MUH EXCLUSIVE
shit taste, sony boi
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>>378309138
>Orphan 9/10
boring moveset 8/10 max
> Laurence 9/10
cleric beast rip-off 5/10 max
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>>378309003

I am a PC fag, the only PS4 game I have is BB:TOHE. I don't praise it because it is exclusive, I praise it because it is an amazing game that surpassed Souls gameplay. The ShitStation 4 is holding BB back, every day I daydream about playing BB on the PC with 4k HD textures, 144fps, depth of field disabled, chromatic abberation disabled and no frame pacing issues.

The aggressive edge lord gameplay with the quickstepping, transforming weapons, guns and trenchcoats makes me orgasm. The soundtrack, atmosphere and aesthetics are the best.

I highly recommend that all PC gamers who like Souls, wait for xbox scorpio so ps4 price drops dramatically, then buy a second hand PS4 for super cheap price and play bloodborne, this way sony gets no money and you win. Bloodborne is worth it.
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>>378309502
How much do you think they will drop? They are already 250 new with a second controller bundled and second hand they are 150. PS3 are still 100 I doubt they will fall to a 100.

If anything, I've been following the scene and piracy might come for it soon which means prices could actually go up on the second hand market.
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>>378309502
>transforming weapons
Yeah, but like LHS, Chikage and Axe are the only usable ones. Others are literal trash with no purpose while in DS3 there are a lot more of a great weapons.
And replayability suck ass in BB since you can't respec your character and need to start from 0 (and I'm okay with that, but since that weapon choice is really poor.. neh)
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>>378309823
>Yeah, but like LHS, Chikage and Axe are the only usable ones. Others are literal trash with no purpose while in DS3 there are a lot more of a great weapons.
Is it how insanity looks like?
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>>378309741

If Scorpio does native 4k 60fps, then PS4 will drop to 100 easily. In the Netherlands we have a second hand online shop where people sell stuff and there are literally 1000+ people selling their PS4 with normie and dude bro games lime fifa, cod, bf and other multi-platform games. This will only increase when normies get scorpio, they couldn't give a fuck about most Sony exclusives.
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>>378309936
heh, don't tell me you actually cleared the game with spear rifle or some shit
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>>378310153
Spear rifle is fun as fuck in the pve, same goes for the gun rapier
You can literally kill bosses just by shooting at them thanks to the base damage being same as a phys one, but scalling with blood
But of course das3 kid like you wouldn't know
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>>378310074
But will Scorpio catch on tho? How much do normies care about 4K? There is some logic in it. I remember a bunch of people selling their PS4 when the Pro came out.
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Don't mind me just posting objective facts
BB > DaS3 = DaS1 = DeS > DaS2
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>>378310264
>das3 kid
whatchu mean by that? I cleared BB more than 1 time, just like DS3. I have my opinion besides MUH EXCLUSIVE MUST BE SUPERIOR
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>>378310425
stop with that shitposting fanboy
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>>378310494
>clearing das3 more than once
Your opinion belongs to trash
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>>378310264
>Spear rifle is fun as fuck in the pve, same goes for the gun rapier
How does it feel lying to yourself?
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>>378310298
PS4 Pro never caugth on because it has fake 4k and doesn't promise 60fps, because it can't. Scorpio is promising 4k 60fps, it is new, PS4 owners are more likely to buy a scorpio than a PS4 pro that doesn't offer any noticeable performance increase.

It all comes down to price and how microsoft advertises it. They could literally destroy Sony if they price it at 399, microsoft is big enough to do that, but I don't know if their greed will allow them.
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>>378310581
> Cleared glorious DS3 only once, not even touched DLCs
> thinks full of flaws BBs better somehow
kys subhuman
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>mfw when i see these threads
I liked them both tho
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>>378310758
>DS3
>glorious
Is it a bait?
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>>378310581
> clearing BB more than once
k y s
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I feel that if Gael was implemented properly throughout 3's main game as a sort of companion character (akin to Solaire or Lucatiel), and give him more backstory and dialogue, maybe even another unique miracle or two, then maybe it wouldn't have felt so completely fucking random.

Also giving the blood to the paintwaifu should've added more to the game. Hell, even a 5 second cutscene after the ending showing her painting would've been better than nothing.

Oh and maybe make the last section of the DLC a bit more interesting with points to explore and it would've been TOH-tier.
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The amount of effort put into threads like this one has very noticeably been on the decline. What happened to souls shitposting?
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>>378310809
no, it's just you, neo/v/ sperg lord being dumb af since you're 20+ y.o. stupid kid from NA or something like that and your first souls game was BB while I'm played every one of them in the day of release and know shit better than you
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>>378309823
>LHS, Chikage and Axe are the only usable ones.
Pizza cutter? Hammer? Scythe? Maria's swords? Those twin blade thingies from the crow lady? Saw cleaver?
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>>378311107
He didn't even mentioned any serr weapons while talking about pve
He obviously das3 kid who never touched game
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Gotta love all these DS3 A SHIT! SHIT!!! and BB IS BETTER SINCE IT'S 1ST NON DS SERIES GAMU!11 shitheads on /v/
what a cancer, man
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>PcCuck still trying to troll about Bloodborne.
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>>378311157
> literally any boss souls weapon like Yohrms machete, Vordts hammer, Dragonslayer Greataxe etc in unique, has its own ability and balanced
> any unique shit like onix sword or Ledos Hammer, twin ultras hammer
stop acting like you played DS3, human trash
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>>378311489
>> literally any boss souls weapon like Yohrms machete, Vordts hammer, Dragonslayer Greataxe etc in unique, has its own ability and balanced
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>>378311017
It would've needed a bit more than that to be TOH tier. Not limited to much better level design in the Ringed City, less reliance on HD armor sets from a previous game, much more interesting weapons and a much better story overall, not just with respect to Gael.

tbqh DS3 as a whole really needs a much better story overall to stack up against any of the better games in the series.
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>>378306867
Just watch a lot of youtube videos about the lore. Then replay and see for yourself if things make sense.
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>>378311107
Why would I use them since LHS has better moveset/scaling and dps? Wpn you mentioned are slower than these 3 top weapons and lacks overall. No point in using weak weapons on purpose, since weapons in BB are unbalanced
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>>378302465
> Loran gems

What? Loran gems only come in Waning (the worst and least common shape) and are shit. There are objectively better in everyway gems found in the main game and DLC.
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>>378296187

10 days? Git gud son, took me 3 days.
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If you keep replying past this point it's your own fault.
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>>378306867
> read everything in game
> shitpost on /v/ and /vg/
> get called wrong
> read other people's interpretations
> adjust your own readings if they found something you didn't think of
> shitpost some more

The basic plot is pretty easy to follow if you read every item you find. The minor details and more interpretive stuff is where the craziness and online arguments set in. Sometimes something will be unclear, but be visually a reference to Chinese mythology or something so people will extrapolate from that to give meaning, while others will have a different interpretation.
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>>378311368
> sonyonlyshit still trying to troll about DS3
see, cuck, I have both PS4 and gaming PC unlike you poorfag
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>>378311658
>No point in using weak weapons on purpose
Did Rakuyo stop being the best weapon in the game?
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>>378312002
How would I know if I need to start 3rd character and level it up around that specific build/weapon? In fact really doubt there are many people like you since dlc released 6 months later after vanilla and only few people still playing it for pvp. While souls games were always about pve and nothing more.
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>>378312384
>While souls games were always about pve and nothing more.
But das3 pve is trash
Worst in the soulsborne series
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>>378311658
> slower than the ones I mentioned

are you seriously suggesting that Saw Cleaver, Rakuyo and the motherfucking Blades of Mercy are slower than Ludwigs Holy Sword?

Ludwigs has good stats but it's moveset is pretty meh, plus it's untricked mode has an average of 30% damage reduction. It's stats refer to he Greatsword not the straight sword.

Top tier PvE weapons in BB are
> Pizza Cutter
> Saw Cleaver/Spear
> Holy Moonlight Sword

Top PVP weapons are
> Rakuyo
> Saw Spear
> Saif
> Wheel (for twinking)
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>>378312512
It's not trash since it has better weapons choice and best bosses while BB only has Ludwig and angry defenders as a fan base
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>>378312540
>only 3 weapons worth using in the pve
My point still stands, bloodborne can't be even compared to the das3 where almost every weapon is viable
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>anon posts low effort b8 to fish (you)s and have fun baiting reddit newfriends
>retards actually try to argue with his bait instead of just laughing, posting some shitty meme and moving on

This is what happens when the "you should lurk for 1 year before posting" gets lost in the past.
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>>378312384
Honestly, what is wrong with you anon? What did BB do to you?

Are you seriously suggesting that people only played BB for the pvp? Bevause it had the smallest focus on multiplayer out of any of the games. PVP is a pain to setup, there's no reason to actually invade except for fun and completing a build takes weeks of farming gems. It the least PVP friendly game in the series.

Plus, I'm pretty sure BB had more players on ps4 than Dark Souls 3 during regular periods (obviously it got a huge boost from recent DLC).
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>>378312540
> PVP
pls stop..

> Pizza Cutter
slow af, shitty moveset, only has 1 good form
> Saw Cleaver/Spea
fast, but boring and the range suck ass. Axe's better.
> Holy Moonlight Sword
dlc weapon, means you can't get it early.
Arcane builds only.. meh Good for 2nd or 3rd p/t I guess
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>>378312770
>What did BB do to you?
It refused to come to PC.
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>>378312654
At this point I'm certain your baiting. But I've (you)'s to spare so you won't go hungry tonight.

All BB weapons are viable because they are all different. Some are better than others in PVP, but the difference is negliagable. Tier ranges in BB go from "puts you at a slight advantage" to "puts you at a slight disadvantage" (Boom Hammer goes here).

If you actually played BB PVP you'd realise that every weapon is used because there's only one choice for each of 25 different movesets and the winner is determined by skill rather than stats. In Dark Souls there's tons of weapons which are 100% useless because something else is statistically better and has the same moves.

Seriously go join a /bbg/ fight club one week and you'll see almost every weapon being used.
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>>378295827
Your syntax is what went wrong you slav piece of shit.
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>>378312770
Nothing, in fact I was "BB > DS3" guy until dlc releases.
>>378313029
Won't change a thing. BB should've more better weapons and some sort of npc to respec my stats. Why the fuck do I need to start a new character if I want to play as arcane build? I don't wan to grind dem chalice dungeons again and again. Already did that.
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>>378311978
Not him but DS3 is on PS4 you idiot. PS4 is not PC where you have to worry if game will be ever released.
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DS3 was such a forgettable game. Everything was so irrelevant and dull. The only thing that stuck in my mind was the whole "giving they eyes back to the maiden" story.
Still not as shit as DS2.
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No challenge until the DLC, which meant (at least for me) that most of the boss fights weren't very memorable because I rarely even saw the full moveset.
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>>378314079
your life is forgettable, while DS3 with Gael and Midir will always be in pantheon of god tier game desu
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>>378314280
>No challenge until the DLC
But game is full of challenge
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>>378295827
>what went wrong?
You came out of your mother's womb
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>>378314280
Try making a twink and tell me the base game is not challenging.
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>>378315525
I didn't find it to be. Perhaps because I played the shit out of DaS1 & 2, but just levelling naturally I very, very, rarely died to bosses. Some of the areas were pretty challenging but the bosses themselves lacked much substance at all.

>>378315956
Well, obviously. Not doing that shit again, DaS1 SL1 Dual Caestus was all I could take.
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>>378314280
> nigger
> was overleveled
> skipped Nameless and champ Gunda
get da fak aut pleeeeeeb
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>>378295827
i am playing it now, I like the lore more than dark souls, then again im a sucker for Victorian monster stuff. that fucker with the machine gun on the roof can go fuck him self
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>>378316569
Talking about Bloodborne fampai.
DaSIII did a pretty good job of difficulty but I didn't care for it all that much for completely subjective reasons.
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>>378316871
Beat darkbeast paarl and you can travel from his lantern to get to Djura without aggroing him. You can have some chat with him and leave in your merry way.
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I'm aware that Imgur.com will stop allowing adult images since 15th of May. I'm taking actions to backup as much data as possible.
Read more on this topic here - https://archived.moe/talk/thread/1694/


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