Pannenkoek new video, let's get comfy. https://www.yout

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>>378275829
Superior autist coming through.

>>378275971
the good kind of autist tho

>>378275829
>37:22
This is going to be good.

So saying half an a press is like getting one jump per level? Why not just call it that?

>>378275829
Triangle is the perfect form, prove me wrong. Oh wait, you can't.

Is ABC dead?
Those CCC videos weren't nearly as interesting.

has this guy ever said why he cares so much about this one game

That's really interesting, I wonder why they decided to handle walls and floors like that.

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>>378275829
I know that pannen was in a bad enough place to spend countless hours making the commented QPU video, but fuck me I'd love some more commentated thing. I could listen to this man speak about mario for hours easily

>>378275829
>let's get comfy.
end yourself

>>378276509
Because you don't jump on the level, you jump prior to the level.

>>378276509
Because the point isn't to cut down on jumps, it's to cut down on A presses.

>>378276868
who spit in your bean curd?

>>378275829
I feel like you can learn a lot about game programming just from watching his videos.

>>378276792
programmer inexperience

>>378276868
maybe go watch MattPatt, he is a great scientist too ! :)

>implying you can half press a button

there is not such a thing as a half press

>>378277045
you'd be better off watching videos from actual programmers

>>378277321
henry

>>378277045
Not really, but if you know how to code and some actual math, pannen videos are more fun.

>>378277289
>>378277321

>t. tj """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""henry""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" yoshi

>>378277650
Well I know how to program but I don't do game programming so it's interesting to see how people in the industry implement collision detection or at least how Nintendo did it for Mario 64. I didn't mean that anyone could watch his videos and learn how to make a game, but seeing specific implementation of things I've never worked with is interesting.

>>378275971
He is, but he's not on YouTube anymore and I don't like him enough to put up with daily motion

I don't like anyone that much

>watch for 2 minutes
>get an introductory vector physics refresher

>>378276792

Early 3D gaming was basically them doing whatever wizardy they could to make it work.

>>378277890
is it all conjecture or did he decompile the source code? because the way he's describing collisions is a really backwards way to do it, but I guess it's possible seeing this was a very early 3D game

>>378277045
Yoiu can learn basic vector math

>>378277045
And maybe the same amount of design

>>378278035
The story from naughty dog vets about jangling around with crash bandicoots compiler until everything literally just barely fit onto the disc was hilarious

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>>378275829
IT'S A BIG ONE

>>378277935
Ulillilia Archives exist, but it doesn't get updated that much anyways:

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCg-ceAGNaEkM7V3d9EyxQCw

>>378275829
Why do they need like 50 flat triangles to make a floor?

>>378278192
4 me

So the half-a press nonsense was just semantics around negative edge in Mario 64?

>>378275829
>two separate registers of the button
>you have activated the button twice
>you have pressed the button twice

>>378278336
You're not right, but you're not wrong

>>378276509
no, half a press is having the A button held when you enter the portrait/start the level

>>378275829
>uncommentated
fuck

>>378278336
>two separate registers of the button
>by only pushing the button once
There lies the rub

>>378278421
You are either right. Or you are wrong. There are no half-truths

>no commentary

trash

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>37 minutes

holy shit the programming they did to get around engine / hardware limitations was fucking BRILLIANT

>pick a single point and compute limits based on model size

That was pretty fun, especially the differences between ceilings, walls, and OoB.

>>378275971
what is that on his keyboard

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>>378275829
>uncommentated
I cant watch this filth

>>378279192
What are you, illiterate?

>>378279192
It's actually pretty interesting and the music is very comfy and soothing.

>>378275971
what is that on his keyboard?

>>378279191
>>378279606
something to prevent it from getting dirty or to help him learn to touch type

>>378275829
That out of bounds stuff is spooky.

How does he find out all these things? How much is from experimentation and how much is through looking at black and white values using some kind of program?

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Is there anyone more pure than Pannen?

an A press is an A press
you can't press and hold A and call it a half press

>>378280264
All these weird habits and he seems composed and has social interactions. He seems like a good guy.

>>378280264
You know, i may have mild autism, but i can tell you with full security that that boy took ain'ting normal to a whole new level

I had no idea what he was talking about/what was going on at the beginning but by the end I understood it clearly. Would love if this guy was my TA.

>>378280567
he is fucking with you smart guy

>>378275971
uli isn't autistic

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>>378280264
>you will never know truly sweet love and care like that which pannenkoek2012 gives to each of his pencils
we truly live in the wrong QPU

>>378280264
Wow i've seen that image before but I didn't know it was pannen that typed it. Truly gives these videos a new perspective. A qpu perspective.

>>378276868
t. TJ "Henry" Yoshi

>40 minutes
Hold me

>>378278229
A triangle is the simplest form in geometry, so graphic processors use them to build 3D shapes.

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>go to download a save for melee recently
>100% completed. All characters and courses. All 293 trophies (including gift trophies and Tamagon). All special notices (including 1,000,000 matches played). Very Hard mode done with all characters.
>uploader is pannenkoek2012
>only name entry is SCOT

>>378275829
somewhere in a dimension that is higher than ours, there is an autistic super being who is making videos on the higher plain of existence's youtube going over shit like this in our dimension and how our physics work

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MIND

FUCKING

EXPLOSION

>>378278421
I don't mind, but I feel like it is an intrinsically worthless metric

>>378275971
Not an actual autist.

I'm glad I finally know why that one corner of Peach's Castle instantly kills Mario and robs his hat when you grab the ledge.

That shit bothered me.

>>378275829
This guy's going to end up knowing more about the game than the actual programmers

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If you can't move into a space with no floor underneath it, then what happens when you fall off a stage like Rainbow Ride or Tall Tall Mountain? Do those stages have an invisible floor underneath the entire level?

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>>378279606
>>378279191

dryer sheets and tins of altoids arranged horizontally. tfw platform masters never ;_;

>>378281695

Yes. There's a giant death zone called the kill plane that generally prevents you from going down there.

However if you were to say, get a 100 coin star in the air above a pit Mario would be instantly snapped to the bottom of the void (and promptly die).

>>378281161

...

>>378281515
if somehow every single copy of mario 64 were lost he could perfectly recreate it

>>378281161
You can upload your Melee saves to the Internet?

>>378275829

The year is 2017 and this autistic faggot is STILL analyzing goddamn mario64.

This asshole will by 78 years old and on a breathing apparatus, and he will still be making internet videos about Mario64.

>>378282128
>he capitalized Internet

>>378282128
You can upload saves for literally anything so long as you have an adapter to make the original format readable on a PC. The file in particular that I'm referring to can be found on GameFAQs.

>>378281695

obviously you fukin moran

>>378282185
People do things they like. Oh no. How horrible.

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>tfw the pole in BitFS is the only thing keeping him from beating the game with 0x A presses

>>378281197
What's the IRL equivalent to an A press?

>>378281695

Yes, the death barrier. That's the lowest floor signifying inbounds, it's when you touch it the Bowser laugh and fadeout normally happens.
Where the death barrier is, there the course is.

>>378282384

jumping

>>378282350
He'd still be pressing A on the hub world.

>>378282508
you can use start to navigate the hubworld

>>378276734
He's an engineer. Engineers always do autistic shit like this as a hobby

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>press a
>Call it not pressing a

>>378275829
>uncommented

Dropped.

>>378275829

>I'm not sure why an object can push us out of bounds in this situation.

Well I guess we can look forward to another half hour long video explaining the inner workings of an ancient video game sometime in the next few months then.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6Y95yweETA

>>378282718
Pressing A but holding it

Interesting video.
Not very autistic though, just informative.

>>378276792
Instead of storing the data and wasting precious storage space, which was in short supply on the N64, it was better to calculate those things on the fly using the N64's comparatively plentiful processing resources when possible. It was a good trade off considering the strengths and weaknesses of the N64 hardware and the cartridge storage limitations. Nintendo really understood their own hardware in that era.

>>378282486
If I jump into a room, am I going to finish that room with half a jump?

>>378283293
yes, if you want to get through the room with half a jump still, you have to crouch walk through the room with a jump cocked without actually springing up into the air to jump

There's no such thing as a half a press, either you press the button or you don't

>>378283505
wrong

>>378283505
Technically it's 1/3rd of an A-press, but the last third is useless so can be ignored.

>>378283541
If you pushed an analog stick forward you wouldn't say it's only half a movement until you bring it back to neutral position. You either push it or you don't

>>378283505
It's just notation retard.

1 + 0.5 = 1
0 + 0.5 = 1

>>378283825

analog is different from digital

>>378283728

My body is ready for some amazing new strat that th release is the important part.

>>378280812
>>378281372
He is though. Just because he once said he wasn't doesn't make it true. The evidence is overwhelming. He displays literal autistic behaviors that go far beyond "severe OCD".

He saw his dogs having sex and had no idea what they were doing. He was asked to dress nicely (instead of his usual eating in his underwear or in the nude) when the family had guests over for dinner and he offered the compromise of sitting at the table wrapped in a blanket. Naturally when his parents declined and had him eat in a separate room he blogged about how evil and irrational they were. He once had a wet dream, woke up and found his underwear soiled with greenish yellow jizz (color was probably due to his steady diet of degreased cheese pizzas) and had no idea what had happened so he blogged about it. These are not the behaviors of someone with "severe OCD" these are autistic ticks.

Uli walks the line between functioning autist and full blown Etsubatsu

>>378284028
>tfw I knew about that as a kid
Same for jumping through steep floors.

An A press is an A press, you can't say it's only a half.

>>378284028
stealing that one

>>378284078
What do you call someone who obsesses about an autist's life?

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I think I might have autism, because I sat through that whole video and loved every bit of it, and I'm the kind of guy who gets bored by a 2 minute video game cutscene.

Love yer work Pannen.

>>378278091
If you don't know how to add vectors by the end of middle school I feel bad for you

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>>378284201
Gee I wonder who is behind this post.

>>378284283
utv stalker

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>>378280264
>No Rotring pencils
>Is proud of his collection
This is just disgusting.

>>378283505
*inhales*

>>378284357
>not henreeeeeeeee

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>>378275829
>when your entire world is made of triangles

>>378284304
>If you don't know how to add vectors by the end of middle school I feel bad for you
What? Most people don't even learn multiplication until high school unless you're in honors classes. Vector addition is college level mathematics.

>>378284289
>Autism for enjoying understanding how simple concepts like vector calculus can make up a big part of the logic of a game
If this is autism, I wouldn't have it any other way.

Ok, so people were saying this was a very backwards way of implementing collisions, but how different is it done nowadays?
I thought the "snapping to the ground" thing was genius. A lot of these floaty Unity platformers could learn with it.

>>378284283
I don't think taking 5 minutes to read excerpts from his blog qualifies as obsessing. There used to be frequent threads about him with borderline autists looking up to him for his "awesome work" and swearing up and down he wasn't autistic when all it took was a couple clicks and a few minutes of reading to see that wasn't the case at all.

>>378284519
Kek I like that enough I'll change the filename just for you anon.

>>378275829

Not even the dirty nips who made this game care this much.

>>378284886
The fact that you didn't just name it that in the first place is a pretty large testament to your intellect/sense of humor.

>>378284662
It's not backwards, it's a good technique when you've got limited hardware. It's a very good way of saving every bit of storage that you can on a cartridge system with little RAM but lots of processing power because it means storing a lot less data than a hitbox would take up.

>>378284650

I watched a man discuss Vector Calculus for BING BING WAHOO *1UP* MAN for half an hour. i loved it, but it takes a special kind of man to break down this game to such a science.

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>tfw have Pannenkoek2012 levels of knowledge about several popular games that /v/ likes.
>have nothing to my name on the internet to start a patreon and hire someone who can make videos like him.

Oh well... Maybe in the next life.

>uncommentated

who gives a shit

>>378285110
Be the change.

>>378284442
>being illiterate

>>378285126
>missing out on some of his best content
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hdFG2GcNuA
wew

>>378285110
It's not who you are underneath, but what you do that defines you.

>>378284643
I swear to go I added vectors and complex numbers in grade 8 or 9. Maybe I'm misremembering it

>>378281161
link?

>>378285353
You fell for the bait.

>>378285412
https://www.gamefaqs.com/gamecube/516492-super-smash-bros-melee/saves

>>378285540
Well it's not like those math skills really helped me in life

>>378285412

Yes, Link is unlocked by default.

>>378281161
http://enduringbeta.com/2014/09/21/interview-with-a-super-mario-64-expert/

>>378285334
Bullshit, who you are underneath defines what you do, every time.

>>378280915
I'm in the same boat.
Huh.

>>378285629
>website wants to interview you
>it's Enduring Beta

>>378281265
So I'm just going to say this once.
As someone who has just barely dipped my toes in programming, there are 3 events for a key press.
Key depressed
Key held
Key released
It's the same for mouse button. The game sees each of these states as being different. Being depressed causes you to jump. Being held changes mario's movement. Releasing reverts him back to normal.
So a 'half a-press' simply means keeping it in it's held state. At which point, you haven't triggered the 'depressed' state more than once.
Because of that I think it's fine the way he's calling it.

>>378285652
>>378285334

Actually, who you are underneath depends on your hitbox and whether you hit a ceiling deadzone or an angled wall. Come on, did you even watch the video?

Freaking amateur hour in here.

>>378285334
WHERE IS SHE

>>378285861
>interviewer is literally enduring a betas company and conversation

so meta

>>378285786
>>378280915
His name is at the top of the post you retards.

>>378285110
What games Senpai

>>378286139
>retards

Anon. It goes like this
>Lurk for a while
>see autistic pencil post
>lurk for a while longer
>see GPU align video

Why would I ever connect the two?

>>378285334

BRUCE?.

>>378285334
uuuu

>>378286054
In my experience being depressed doesn't involve a lot of jumping.

>>378286260
Probably because it's posted in every thread about him, and didn't start getting posted until his infamous video was discovered first. And yes, being out of the loop makes you a retard because I said so.

>>378275829
>no voiceover
>after 37 minutes it just fucking ends
what was the purpose of it? i thought it was to help INTERDIMENSIONAL TRAVEL, but at the end it just goes "yeah, mario can bounce off of walls" *video ends*

>>378275829
>37 minutes
Damn son I love long Pannen videos

>>378287236
Most of his videos are just informative instead of meme-tier.

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>I only watched the one meme video-fags

>not appreciating every pannen

WIll we ever kill the mystery goombah?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdXyDLsemz8

>>378289098

no

>>378289127
...or will we?
dunn dunn dunnnn

>>378289098
If Pannen couldn't figure out a way do to it then it will never happen.

Any more videos like this one?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uIoN5Ln6M7k

>>378275829
an A press is still an A press it can't be half, the same effort that goes into one goes into 'half' anA press.

>>378290469
It depends on where you start counting.

>>378290469
>the same effort that goes into one goes into 'half' anA press

I would argue that holding down a button takes more effort and energy than just doing a normal press.

>>378289504
I hope not. Pointless unfunny trash.

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>>378290469
>effort
Why would you judge digital information this way?

>>378291075
Why would you call pre-programmed inputs "button presses"? I mean since we're nitpicking and all.

Pannenkoek is retarded. The fatal flaw in this whole thing is that he considers the release of the button "half a press" or whatever when in realit you're just releasing a button that's been pressed.

>>378291368
>he considers the release of the button "half a press" or whatever
So you don't understand. Okay.

>>378284643
>American education

>>378278586
>>378279192
>>378282747
>>378285126
>>378287236
>Note that if this video also had to be commentated, then my resistance to making it would have increased several fold, and so it probably would have taken at least 5-10 more years to coax myself into making it. In other words, I was only able to get this video out as early as now because it was strictly uncommentated.

>>378291368
t. """""""henry""""""""

>>378284643
>multiplication
>high school

Did you grow up in fucking Mississippi? I was doing multiplication and division in 3rd grade, no AP.

>>378291426
He does though. He divides a button press into arbitrary sections like press/hold/release. It just doesn't work like that. By his own retarded definition the level is being completed in 1/3rd of an A press, since he's only doing the "hold" part during the actual level.

>>378291912
multiplication of vectors

>>378285110
Do it for the love of the game and sharing knowledge then. Don't do it for money or fame. I'd love to watch stuff like that. Also shamelessly plugging Boundary Break.

>>378291738
Autism actually doesn't speak I guess

>>378275829
>uncommented
Pass

>>378291980
You motherfucker it's a half a press because it can be rounded up to 1 in certain conditions and 0 in others. .5 is the average, you get it?

>>378291368
t. brainlet

>>378292214
That's not his reasoning though.

If you want to get technical, holding down the A button means in terms of the game code that there is an A button input on every single frame.

So his way actually causes a lot of A "pressing".

>>378292437
>Wing Mario Over the Rainbow only adds on an additional TWO A presses to the run, since the FIRST A press just leeches off of a previous A press. So to capture this phenomenon, we call it 2.5 A presses. On a single star basis, we’d round that up to three. But in a full game run, you’d round it down to two. So in conclusion, since that first A press counts in some contexts, but adds no additional A presses in other contexts, we refer to it as a half A press.

>There are people in this thread who unironically side with TJ """"""""Henry"""""""" Yoshi
Is it so hard to understand that half-press isn't a literal term?

>>378292382
>t.

Unless you can tell me what this means you have no place calling others "brainlet" you brainless parrot.

Hilarious how the underaged sheep of 4chan will just start regurgitating phrases and words they see other use in an attempt to blend in. Nobody here likes finnish people but they have no problems appropriating their lingo without even knowing it kek.

>>378284682
There are definitely people who obsess. I've met one irl, plus there's a huge wiki for cwc at the very least

>>378292725
see
>>378292586
>>378292719

>>378292586
We are talking about watch for rolling rocks 0.5 A presses here. The video that he's most known for.

>>378292725
It means regards you meme connoisseur brainlet

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>>378291980
>It just doesn't work like that
Programming-wise, it does. I'll use Street Fighter 2 as an example, since SM64 doesn't have anything to demonstrate releases.

Press: You press a button and Ryu throws a punch. That's a press. It will ONLY happen on a press. If you get knocked down, then start holding down the punch button while Ryu's getting up, he won't thor the punch once he stands up just because you're holding the button down. Likewise, he won't throw a punch when you release the button.

Hold: Holding the joystick up will make Ryu jump, so long as he's in an idle state. This can happen the instant you move the joystick up (equivalent to the above "pres") OR ity can happen if the joystick is being held up. Let's say again that you get knocked down. You start holding the joystick up as Ryu gets up. As soon as he's fully standing he WILL jump if you're holding the stick up, regardless of how long you've been holding it. If you keep holding the stick, Ryu will jump up and down over and over again.

Release: Special moves in SF2 can be activated not just with button presses, but button releases. There are multiple reasons for this, including SF1's weird pressure buttons and an attempt at making special move inputs more lenient. Let's say you get knocked down again. And as you're falling, you start holding down a punch button. You're holding it for a good second or two. Then, as Ryu starts to get up, you do the DP motion on the joystick and release the punch button just as Ryu fully stands up. You get your reversal Shoryuken despite having pressed the button several seconds ago.

>>378292816
I'm not denying those people exist at all, I'm just saying knowing factoids about someone/something doesn't make you obsessed.

>>378292852
That was a direct quote from the WfRR 0.5 video. Literally the first thing he talk about in it.

>>378292896
I clearly know what it means, which is why I questioned it you the first place. But hey good job using the clues I gave you to google it. Now you know, so stop fucking using it. Finns are just off-brand Swedes and Sweden is the cuck capital of the world. By parroting the stupid t. shit you are literall acting like a cuck and encouraging newfags to do the same. Literall the cancer that killed 4chan.

>>378293221
>unironically getting mad over a meme

>>378292939
>as you're falling, you start holding down a punch button. You're holding it for a good second or two. Then, as Ryu starts to get up, you do the DP motion on the joystick and release the punch button just as Ryu fully stands up. You get your reversal Shoryuken despite having pressed the button several seconds ago.

I don't have a means of testing this right in front of me at the moment but over 20 years of streetfighter experience has m gut instinct telling me this is false.

>>378293428
It's called "negative edge" and has been true of every Capcom fighting game since SF2. It actually leads to some really abusable tactics with command grabs for certain characters in competitive SF2, because you can attempt to throw but be free to block if the throw fails.

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>>378285290
>after seven days of swimming, the fish has come to a stop
I understand this computer science stuff well but holy shit watching it in practice feels surreal

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>tfw can't understand a single fucking thing he says

love the memes tho

>>378277045
You can learn some practices of game creation, but a lot of the tech behind Mario 64 is archaic and does not apply today. For example, modern game engines use full fledged physics systems both 2d and 3d for handling things like collision which make this work a lot simpler. The collision tech in Mario 64 is made from scratch and severely limited by N64 hardware. Even if you made 3d collision from scratch today, you could get away with a lot more calculations and shortcuts that would make it work very differently, made easier if you reference guides for it that exist on the internet today.

>>378294108
Amazing that Mario's physics don't even feel that dated when you play.

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I finally understand how parallel universes work. Maybe he's already explained it, but I didn't get it until now.

He's trying to reach the right speed and angle to jump to an area that isn't out-of-bounds. That's why Mario's always pushing between the jumps.

>>378288687
I wish I could but I find it hard to take the time to watch most of his videos, even though I think they're genuinely fascinating.

>>378275971
What's on his screen?

>>378297680
Platform Masters, a game of his own design.

>>378297680
>he doesn't know
normally i'd call you a poor summer child or something to that effect, but it's been so long i really don't blame you

>>378280264
Why does Melvin wear the mask?

Why does Mario's hat disappear when he enters Out Of Bounds?

>>378299535
It's theorized it's a debugging feature. If Mario dies and his hat disappears, the developers knew instantly that it was because he went out of bounds.

Jesus fucking christ the amount of misleading bullshit in this thread is staggering.

0.5 A presses is a notation Pannen uses for certain stages because in isolation, no actual A button movement occurs during the stage. It still amounts to a full press in a full run.

Furthermore, if we speak about game programming in general there are only two button states: presses or not pressed. A lot of games extend this further to four states in total by including "just pressed" and "just pressed", which only occurs on one frame when the current button state is different from the last. There's no inherent just pressed/just released state to a button input, you as a programmer has to derive that information yourself.

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