what do you think happens after you die? What if you get NG+

Have you considered that you are a faggot?

>>378270059
that's a nuns on a ripple

>>378269990
You get forced to play as your Skyrim character, all mods included with lifelike graphics based on those mods.

You didn't cover everything in blurry shit and make your character become a sex slave for monsters and had her limbs removed to prevent her from escaping did you?

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>>378269990
You cease to exist.

>>378269990
God turns the power off on the console.

I dont want my horrible memories of this life following me

same thing that happened to me before i was born

nothin'

>>378269990
Best you get is unbiased feedback for every action you made by the collective whole, predictions on the future and full restart with boons/banes of your choosing according to the role you wish to fulfill.
After such a feedback, you might or might not want to choose ultimate leader. For you see...
You don't get to choose where you'll respawn.

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>>378270409
>God
>Not PC master race

>>378269990
Maybe I'll just have all my previous memories and experience so I can finally be the alpha-chad that I desire

>>378270237
fun to think about. i dont think human beings have the mental capacity to actually understand not existing. you cant really picture it, its not like its just blackness. the complete lack of... anything at all. weird

>>378270908
Could God remove all the telemetry from Windows 10?

i'd like to think you basically go to a sandbox universe where you can explore anywhere you want in life

from the mariana trench to mars to the outer edges of the universe and beyond. would be absolutely fascinating for me

>>378271043
Why? It's confessionary 2.0.
It's still talking to God without an answer, only this time it has a less ethereal way to it.

>>378270753
How about when you respawn?

You relive moments of your life and meet people you had close relationships with before moving unto to your next destination. Other people becomes spirits and haunt those in the real world, unable to escape the route of materialism they chose.

Basically like the episode Beyond Life and Death in Twin Peaks.

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>>378270651
What of we just don't remember before we were born and it was some kind of hell where we were perpetually tortured?

If it makes any of you feel better, once I die and go to hell, I'm going to disarm one of the devil servants, kill him and his friends and create a hell resistance. Once I kill the devil, I'll move on to heaven, kill god, then assert myself as rightful ruler over the universe. Once I do that I'll make hell a sort of prison instead of a CIA blacksite with fire.

I am your new ruler. Accept it now and everything else will be easier.

>>378270984
It's easy anon. It's just like how it was before you were born.

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>>378271326
Reported to Satan.

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>>378269990
>what do you think happens after you die?
Honest answer? I think I get reborn as a new person/animal/etc.. , I don't get to retain my memories past obviously, but I get to retain some of my "essence", intuition and shit, come back to attone for my past sins, karma.
That or I just disappear, which it doesn't matter anyway because I won't be conscious or yearning for living at that point.

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>mfw when you die you retain all memories and memories of past lives as well
>mfw you're also reborn in the same world within a similar timeframe from where you died
>mfw everyone is in on this except for you

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>>378271479
fuck

>>378269990
Who is that smegma enigma

>>378271326
well i'll be just as unaware so it means not a damn thing

>>378271326
Are you in the military?

>>378269990
I want the red one to help me dom the white one. That would be a perfect afterlife

You either go to hell or heaven.

>>378271730
no, I just watch a lot of mad max and diehard. Pretty sure I could kill god.

I hope this is how it works so all the nihilist fags get btfo

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You have to face the final boss, if you fail to defeat him you are sent back to the beginning of the game.

>>378271326

Doubt it, if you haven't started it yet you have no chance.

>>378271326
shut the fuck up Nanashi

When an atheist dies, he goes in the ground.

When a christian dies, he goes to heaven.

When a muslim dies, he goes all over the place.

>>378272098
I'm not in hell yet though

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>>378272005
I will pretend to join you at first, become your right hand, then kill you from behind and bring your head to satin. Then ask to go to heaven as prize.

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>>378269990
I will tell you what happens when you die. You relive your life with full knowledge of what you have done, only you cannot change anything. It is basically like watching a stream on twitch without having an account to chat

>>378272235

You have no idea.

>>378272301
et tu?

>>378272235
A mediocre state of mind.
A leader aspiring to those heights prepares before the main course. You should be impeaching Trump, leading a coup on some war-torn third-world country, or dethroning Kim Jong-il as warmup

>>378272301
How is cloth going to send you to heaven?

>>378271043
sure, but God only uses TempleOS

I like how despite trying to parrallel each other, the angelic side is still dressed like a whore ready to suck dick at the drop of a hat.

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>>378272402
AAAAAAAAGH

>>378272369

That sounds like hell. Every bad decision I made, every stupid thing I ever did, every shitty thing that ever happened to me, I would have to experience that

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>>378271494
It's a nice thought anon but reincarnation makes no fucking sense and there is absolutely no evidence to back up it's existence.
In different eras there are vastly different amounts of living creatures on the planet. Also Karma doesn't exist, because in order for that, universal good and evil would have to exist, which it doesn't. Good and evil are just human inventions that vary drastically as society changes over the centuries and across different cultures.
Also your consciousness is literally just all in your brain. That's why when people get in accidents and have head trauma/brain damage, it fundamentally changes their personality and consciousness, because their brain is no longer functioning properly. Depending on the seriousness of the injury, you could act like an entirely different person, a young infant, or even a vegetable.

And don't get me started on how ridiculous the concept of "souls" are.

I really don't mean to sound like a fedora-tipper here, but the fact that any functioning adult can actually believe in religion or anything spiritual absolutely boggles my mind..

>>378270169
I get to be a sexy redhead with master tier magic at her finger tips on a quest for vengeance in a land where every outlaw and every single monster wants to have their way with me.

Holy fuck its better than a dream

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>>378272531
Other people seem to share my version of him tho, so it must be real

>>378272573
That's what parallel means, genius. Same path, just offset a bit.

Even if you reincarnate, the fact that no one remembers that shit makes it mostly irrelevant.

>what do you think happens after you die?
How is that a question? You KNOW what happens.

Your consciousness ceases to exist and your body turns into a rotting sack of flesh. There is nothing but non-existence.
There's no point arguing this because there is no proof whatsoever of the opposite. You have people having near death experiences who will swear one thing or another, but that is the brain trying to fill in holes after being resuscitated.

Apart from that, you have faith to tell you what happens. Blind faith. I'm no fedora, but you know the idea of an afterlife is absurd. People are welcome to believe in it, but that doesn't make it reality. All that happens is that the light goes off and you're no longer there. Everything that made you a person has ceased to be.

Enjoy video games while you can instead of worrying about them for when you die.
You can't work on your backlog when you're six feet under.

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>>378272745

>*BRAAAAAAP* God's not real Morty. E-existence *hick* is irrelevant. We're all just *braaaap* dust in the wind

>>378273006

>no one

You can't, that's obvious, don't speak in spite of others.

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I'm sort of looking forward to dying, not in a suicidal sense but knowing eventually I'll know the mystery of knowing nothing.

Also am I weird for wanting to know how my own funeral would go? Not knowing who cared enough to see me off kind of disappoints me.

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>>378271408
>he doesnt remember the void
>he doesnt remember
i envy you anon

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>>378273193
>Also am I weird for wanting to know how my own funeral would go?
Everybody does.

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>>378273209
>There are people who don't remember the void
>There are people who don't remember the nightmare

>/v/ complains about fedora tippers
>behaves exactly like fedora tippers

>>378273193
Same. It fascinates me

>>378272745
None taken, my vision is rather simple and naive, since I don't really put much thought into it, whatever happens happens, there is nothing you can really do to change it, let it be fate, karma or whatever. It's pointless to try to put logic into something so mysterious as Gods, Life and Death, how it was all created, etc .. it's all suppositions, it could even be a giant manchild doing experiments with noodles inside a pebble, right outside of the universe, there is no way to prove it right or wrong.

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>>378273093
Can you provide any solid counter-argument, besides "lol we just don't know!"

Because humans actually know a lot of shit now about how the universe works and none of it hints at humanity and consciousness being anything more than a runaway chemical reaction.

I'm not even trying to be edgy. I find it depressing as fuck and wish it really most likely wasn't true. It's actually a large cause of my depression. So if you can provide other evidence I'm all ears anon.

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>>378273193
>tfw always wanted to make a post-mortem scavenger hunt in my will for someone I secretly hated that has them traveling a couple hundred miles and wasting hours of time
>At the end is just a note with "ur a faget" on it in a box

>>378273067
And you will of course want to ask, "How can you be so sure"?
The reason why I am so sure is because everything else is stories to make you feel good or to scare you into changing your behaviour, regardless it's a promise of something more once it's all done.

That we simply stop existing is FAR MORE fucking terrifying, and that is precisely why it is the only obvious truth. We fear the total and utter end so much that we can't come to grips with it, ad would rather believe in eternal pain than nothing at all.

THAT is why. It makes the most sense because it's the worst possible way it can end.

>>378273067
>There's no point arguing this because there is no proof whatsoever of the opposite.
>thousands of years of worldwide accounts of God and afterlife
Just a meme!

>>378273067
>There's no point arguing this because there is no proof whatsoever of the opposite.
Science says it's heresy; therefore it is.

>>378273067
>but that is the brain trying to fill in holes after being resuscitated.
>but that is the scientists trying to explain away holes in their worldview

>>378273067
>Apart from that, you have faith to tell you what happens. Blind faith.
Everything you think you know about the realm in which you blindly believe you exist is predicated on faith. You have faith NASA isn't lying to you, space is real, etc.

>>378273661
I can't really comprehend how people fear the whole STOP EXISTING, thing, you won't even be conscious when it happens, your mind won't be thinking, OMG I AM NOT EXISTING!!! Please help!!
I do fear the pain of dying tho, fuck that shit, let me drop asleep or something.

>>378272847
>that image
reminds me of a goth kid back in highschool who took a scissors and tried to inscribe 'satan' on his chest, but instead wrote 'satin'. If you're going to self mutilate, at least learn to spell.

>>378273980
I don't fear not existing. I fear slowly growing old, my body dilapitating and falling apart, becoming more and more jaded and unhappy, and knowing the only thing left to look forward too past that is falling part even more before you stop existing.

>>378273604
If you really, really want to do this, invest on it. End location is a safe somewhere, not to your name, but of which you can access through means of a key or producing certain documents, besides your ID. Make him go to your house, a remote place, make him dig for shit in the middle of the desert a-la Walter White, and when he gets the key/documents, place the "ur a faget" paper inside the safe. The process should paint you as a legit guy with a shady stroke.
Make sure such a safe and its contents are appealing, and that he knows the contents of it beforehand through a photo. A Swiss bank, hollow aluminum bars that look like gold bars on photo which are filled with ur a faget papers, and so on.

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>>378269990
I mean, if i could my life with all my knowledge preserved, i'd do another run.

But, what if life is just like "ROY"? The VR game from rick and morty and many of us are just players sitting in an arcade, who just put a dollar in a machine and have been just playing for 10 minutes or something like that.

I mean, you can see when people on the street have no souls. They could easily be npcs.

This brings it all to the Simulation theory.

But, if this truly was a game, i fucking want a stat screen, like, goddammit there's no UI, i can't see my level, minimap etc.

Maybe, i'll get that in ng+

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>>378269990
Assuming the big expansion and quantum tunneling theory as we know it is true, your consciousness will eventually spontaneously reform, along with a suitable physical form in which your life could at least be momentarily sustained, out of nothing many googols of years from now. Chances are it'll be in the bleak, completely empty vacuum of space. True absolute zero, and no air. You'll only be alive briefly, but it will be fucking painful.

From your perspective, this will happen the moment you suffer brain death.

Once you've died in this "next life", you'll eventually reform again into a similar state, and once again suffer a painful death. This will probably continue into eternity. Constantly dying in the vacuum of space from your PoV, even if each reformation is unthinkable eons between.

Of course that's not counting other ways your mind would remanifest. You might reform in a physical body that can somehow withstand the harsh conditions and be able to experience the nothingness for as long as the body will let you. In some cases, the body might even be immortal, letting your mind sit and spin until your matter decays again. Other times, you might reform into another immortal body that simultaneously constantly subjects your mind to an incomprehensible Hell of pain and terror, or even wors, you reform with an advanced organ that allows your mind to comprehend the full extent of the extradimensional hallucinations you're subjected to, which could make it just all that much worse.

Sounds like fun, right?

>>378274540
So you're saying I could be reborn as the little girl and get subjected to sucking dicks for all eternity in the multiverse?

>>378273980
>I can't really comprehend
And that's good. Stupidity is the greatest ward against fearing the end. You can't understand the concept of not existing, so it doesn't worry you.

Ignorance truly is bliss.

>>378274540
Would prefer it to nonexistance tbqth

>>378273587
>Because humans actually know a lot of shit now about how the universe works and none of it hints at humanity and consciousness being anything more than a runaway chemical reaction.
Not really.

>>378270169
>enderal mod installed
>combat defeat rape installed
It's a pretty good life

>>378274692
Eventually, theoretically, yes. Given enough time, it, along with every other conceivable scenario, will happen to all of us. It'll happen to you, your mom, moot, Iwata, George Washington, Ghandi, Genghis Khan, maybe even fucking Mario himself if quantum tunneling produces an original mind that would more or less be identical to Mario's were he actually real. It's some fucked up shit.

>>378273587

I just felt like posting that. I honestly was hoping for a thread like this so find an excuse to post it. So thanks for that opportunity.

I can't provide you any argument for the afterlife, I wish I could. I tried to argue in favor of its existence for several years because I was like you, the idea of it not existing simply killed me. Existentialism, nihilism, all of that almost drove me nuts. Damn near close. The answers always escaped me, I was always coming to a logical inconsistency. Eventually, with medication, therapy and time I just came to the conclusion that nothingness does by its very definition not exist, so there can never be "nothing". Nothing is impossible.

That's the way I see it anyway. But who knows. If that doesn't bring you comfort then I'm sorry. I wish I could. I can't even comfort myself though. But then I stopped caring about nothingness a while ago, death still scares the shit out of me but what brings me depression is my own life more than anything now. Nothing is more depressing to me than this.

Tell me though, would the thought of hell existing depress you more? Let's say you knew you were going, would that make you even more sad than knowing nothingness awaits?

>>378274372
>you can see when people on the street have no souls. They could easily be npcs.

It just seems that way to you because you're autistic

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>>378273494
> It's pointless to try to put logic into something so mysterious as Gods, Life and Death, how it was all created, etc

That's just it though, it's actually not. Why is it socially acceptable to try and find explanations about the universe and the world around us when it comes to absolutely every other facet of life EXCEPT for religion/spirituality? All our advancements in society have come from experimentation and scientific inquiry in very much the same manner.

Then as soon as anyone brings up god or spirituality it's all "nah, it's all just too dang mysterious. We can never really know. You just gotta have faith, etc." It's because in all of our years of existence we can't bridge the gap between science and religion. We can't find concrete, logical evidence of god or souls or angels or ghosts or what have you existing.

And do you know why we can't? Because most likely, it doesn't fucking exist. It's all just a defense mechanism that people create because the thought of mortality and dying and human lives being insignificant inside the fucking HUGE scale of the universe is depressing as fuck. That's completely understandable. But the fact hat as a species we haven't grown past that and learned to accept it yet is not.

>>378269990
im terrified of anything other than total oblivion happening
I have a fear of infinity also I'm miserable and the only comforting thing to me is the idea that I wont be conscious anymore someday

>>378274893
Care to clarify?

>>378274956
whats the matter with odie?

>>378274956
Interesting, that could also be a possibility, but that's just a theory ...

>>378275192
He glimpsed the void.

>>378274956
>All our advancements in society have come from experimentation and scientific inquiry in very much the same manner.
All the while they have been propped up by that very religiousness.

I think the basis of science is it deals specifically in what's detectable in reality, using the senses.

I think the idea of angels and shit is specifically that they are beyond the veil of reality.

I mean, kinda obvious...

>>378269990
Sort of like this?
https://mogron.itch.io/groundhog-life

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>>378274943
Nice try, NPC.

What's gonna be your next line, npc-kun?

100gajillion shekels it'll be:

"kys" or some edgy shit like that.

>>378275310
>All the while they have been propped up by that very religiousness.

How do you figure?

You go to sleep when you die except you never wake up and there are no dreams.It's pointless to even try to understand it.

>>378275042
This is a very complex topic, even within neuroscience.
>consciousness being anything more than a runaway chemical reaction.
There's actually a debate on which cells actually process and hold information. You'd instinctively say neuron, yet glial cells apparently have a more active role on this, almost delegating the neuron to a networking connection rather than a processing center with a relay. Consciousness is known to reside inside the brain, but the dilemma of you not being you even if copied molecularly 1:1 also begs the question on another type of connection.
Remember, teleportation of data has already been achieved. Thus, a physical connection has been proven to not be required for communication to exist.

>>378275310
>I think the idea of science is that it is based in reality
>I think that the idea of religion is that it is not based in reality and is just made up.

My point exactly anon.

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"We don't know until it happens" is a pretty shit way of going towards the endless void. I mean, there's no shame in seeking comfort in fence sitting, but if more people understood that we only get this one life and once it's over, that's irrevocably and terminally it, maybe they wouldn't be such fucking idiots throwing theirs and others away.

>>378275474
People would not have coexisted long enough to gain science if they weren't held together harmoniously by the moral guidance of the Church, essentially, for thousands, if not tens or hundreds of thousands, if not multiple millions of years of evolutionary history. Your welcome.

>>378275353
why wait to start on that NG+ ?

>>378272745
>In different eras there are vastly different amounts of living creatures on the planet.
If you don't believe in reincarnation, fine, but this particular argument is idiotic. First of all, why do you think all reincarnation would be limited to Earth? Second, if souls exist, they had to come from somewhere, so why do you discount the possibility that new ones have been created over the years?

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>>378275693
D-do you think spending a huge chunk of my life inside on 4chan and hating myself is a bad way to spend my one and only life?

I'm getting kind of sad now.

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>>378275795
>we weren't born in a time where our lifespans could potentially stretch thousands and thousands of years thanks to technology
Let's be real, the first human who would truly have a fulfilling and well-rounded life has not been born yet, and possibly never will.

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>>378275802
Well, shitgiggler, i don't think killing myself is the requirement to win this game.

>>378273661
>And you will of course want to ask, "How can you be so sure"?
>The reason why I am so sure is because everything else is stories to make you feel good or to scare you into changing your behaviour, regardless it's a promise of something more once it's all done.
This is literally "How do I know I'm right? Because I know I'm right. Anything that disagrees with me must necessarily be wishful thinking, because it disagrees with me, and I'm right."

>>378275693
If you live for the world, then, your life is empty.

The only thing that can fulfill your life is God.

>>378276027
>i don't think
Well there's your problem

>>378273980
So I suppose you wouldn't mind if someone painlessly murdered you right now?

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>>378276009
Don't be anon, there are thousands of people getting tortured right now or are imprisoned/kidnapped and going through literal hel as we speakl, I'm sure just browsing 4chan all day and fapping to anime is a good life, just strive to be the person you want to be.

>>378274540
Sounds like dumb made up shit that HP lovecraft fags would masturbate to

>>378269990
I can't imagine consciousness simply ending because I haven't had any kind of preparation for that. It's really hard not to imagine death as sleep without the dream, where consciousness does exist at the end of the tunnel but the time in between is unknown.

It's also entirely possible that death is never fully perceived from the perspective of the dead, so yeah.

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>>378275772
>People would not have coexisted long enough to gain science if they weren't held together harmoniously by the moral guidance of the Church, essentially, for thousands, if not tens or hundreds of thousands, if not multiple millions of years of evolutionary history. Your welcome.

Holy FUCK dude. are you fucking shitting with me? Religious strife has killed more fucking people than the plague.

>if not multiple millions of years
You DO realize that modern humans have not even remotely existed for even 1 million years right? How the fuck can religion have been a thing for multiple millions of years when humans weren't even around?

What the fuck are you even on about?

>>378276248
how could he mind? he wouldn't even exist

>>378276248
Don't get me wrong, I do fear the pain of dying, and second I'm not looking to kill myself or to die soon. I'm just not worried at the thought of being dead, the after the fact, is what I'm talking about

>>378276342
I don't dream, at least not what I ever remember.
From my perspective I simply close my eyes and then think so a minute or two before opening them again in the morning.

Makes death pretty easy to imagine.

>>378275661
Science apparently fails to inform you that the inability to detect that which is by definition undetectable by the method you chose to seek it with is in no way whatsoever an indication that it does not exist. It just means you can't detect it with Science. Does that necessarily mean it isn't true, or is made up? Let's see if Science saves you this time.

>>378276279
Thanks anon. That post actually helped a little.

You wake up in a strange room, and looking around brings back memories that somehow feel completely familiar even though you somehow haven't thought about them in the past 80 years. You recall how you strapped yourself into this machine you're currently sitting in, so excited to try out this hyperrealistic simulation of the age before the singularity, since it was rated 10/10 by IGN.

>>378276371
>Religious strife has killed more fucking people than the plague.

Only if you include muslims

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>>378274372
>But, what if life is just like "ROY"? The VR game from rick and morty and many of us are just players sitting in an arcade, who just put a dollar in a machine and have been just playing for 10 minutes or something like that.
Well, if you believe things like near-death experiences and people like Ian Stevenson who have looked into reincarnation, that's essentially what's really going on. Earth is basically the Matrix, or an MMO being run on a holodeck. Reincarnating is like creating a new character. The afterlife is where we actually live.

>>378274956
>It's because in all of our years of existence we can't bridge the gap between science and religion.
Possibly because the gap doesn't actually exist.

Do you know who pic related is? It's the guy who first proposed the Big Bang theory. He was a priest. A lot of scientists rejected the idea because they thought it sounded too religious. In fact, "Big Bang" was their term of derision for the theory. Now it's the mainstream view.

>>378276279
Fuck off nihilist
>>378276009
Yes.Don't fight the pain.Confront the unknown

>>378273980
It is the seed of despair implanted in your mind. You either grow it or catch it, because it spreads like a disease. Ignorance is the vaccine.

But WHAT is IT?
Knowing you will never get to wake up again. You'll never hear about anything new again. The progress of technology, human advancement or demise, your heritage, your imprint on society? Nothingness.
You'll never get an extra day off work, never have a cramp again, never cry, never laugh, never watch a movie, never read a book, never eat, never hunger, never tire, never sleep, never...

All that is you, stops.

>>378275772
>People would not have coexisted long enough
holy fuck nigger.
human as dumb as ape in the ancient somehow managed to live long enough to invent language, tools, and then religions.
you are making up stuffs and treating it as facts....
oh yeah, i forgot that's how religious fag works.

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>>378276232
Uh, boi.

What a word juggler we have here.

How high school treating you, senpai?

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>>378276612

>>378276774
Nah, it's like going to sleep everynight, what if I never wake up tomorrow? Will my tomorrow self be worried that I couldn't watch the new anime episode I missed? No, it's my now self that is worried, when I'm sleeping I'm not thinking about anything, it's just emptyness.

>>378276371
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-wWBGo6a2w&t=3507s

Religious ideas, if not organized religion, are much, much older than you think. Why do you think Adam and Eve is about ancestral beings eating fruit, gaining vision, and snakes? That's the story of human evolution across time, the very beginnings of it.

>>378276818
What exactly are you arguing here?

>>378276371
>Religious strife has killed more fucking people than the plague.
Steps to make an omelette: one, break eggs...

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>>378276763
Fuck you!

>>378276503
>I do fear the pain of dying
Which is why I specified *painlessly* murdered.

>I'm not looking to kill myself or to die soon.
Why? According to you, it's nothing to fear. It's not so bad. Why do you want to avoid it?

>>378276819
honestly kind of a bummer cause there's no UI, i can't see my level, minimap etc.

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>>378269990
Nothing. You can't die. The timeline you're experiencing is one unique to your perspective, so your being never disappears and you can't actually die. Even if you try killing yourself.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_suicide_and_immortality

>>378270908
whats the difference?

>>378276987
Epicurus. I once thought like that. It was a strong defense against the fear of death and maybe it still is.
>If I am, death is not.
>If death is, I am not.
>Thus death need not concern me.

For the most part, everyone lives their lives according to that, but it's that gnawing knowledge deep within you that surfaces all the time, that is always there, that terrifies.

Sleep IS scary. If we didn't already sleep or feel tired, I doubt anybody would feel the need to shut down their consciousness every night.

The thing with death though, is that there's not even a 'what if'. There's only certainty.

>>378277181
My mistake, I misread your post anon.

What I was refering to is the fear of not existing, the afterlife. I'm not refering to the now. I'm not looking to die but if I did, then that's something I had planned, but could I really do anything at that point? If there was a way to "cheat" dying, then I would certainly be worried and waiting for that time anxiously

You know this would all be so easy and everyone would be god fearing if ONE person came back from the dead legitimately and told us what was waiting on the other side. I guess we just gotta take a leap of faith in this absurd world.

>>378277486
>I'm not refering to the now.
Why not? Why is dying now different from dying later?

>I'm not looking to die
Why not?

>>378277408
True, it is a defense mechanism, I rather live how I want to live while I can, than fearing death everyday. I choose ignorance on that matter, it is the better choice for me and the kind of life I want to live, peacefully.

>>378277609
Well, this is a thing:

http://www.adcrf.org/

And if reincarnation really is happening, then people are coming back from the dead all the time, it's just that their memories have been temporarily suppressed so they can get into their new lives.

>>378277667
When you are sleeping, do you actively think, "oh shit I am sleeping"?

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>>378277609
One person did that.

>>378269990
If nothing good happens when you're alive, why do you think death would change that?

>>378277887
You're gonna believe a guy whose dad made up an entire religion because he didn't wanna admit he got cucked?

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>>378277667
I did, this is what awaits you on the other side

>>378277887
Jesus was a prophet, not a god, like moses and abraham.
What makes me think is how all these people existed and spread their message. Surely if that many people in history, unrelated to one another, came with the same message, it should mean something correct?
The main tenet of all these faiths is the blind leap of faith one must do. Something is kept intentionally vague, to "test" your adherence to God's decree. What people find hard to understand is that a God made them simply to be worshipped. If that will save you after death, and keep you away from every nightmare imaginable, why not just worship God?

>>378277715
Just out of curiosity and because I have a slight suspicion, but not because I want to dismiss anything you say: How old are you?

>>378277609
There is no coming back from death.
We can resuscitate someone that has been clinically dead for a few minutes, but even then they only have some experiences from the brain's normal dying moments rather than anything unnatural.

>>378278117
I fucked up
>>378277609

>>378278169
That would be too easy. Take a guess.

Hint: I own a switch

>>378274943
actually it seems that way because its accurate, the idea of a soul is fantasy

>>378277850
No, but when I lie down to go to sleep, I am 99% certain I will wake up and that sleep will only be a temporary interruption of my consciousness, not the annihilation of it.

And you didn't answer either of my questions.

>>378278368
19

>>378278667
Not bad, but you missed by 12 years.

>>378276106

>If you live for the world

My Christian friend said this exact same thing yesterday when he was preaching to me

>>378278903
7

>>378278975
I can't say yes because I get banned, so let's say I'm not 7

>>378275693
>if more people understood that we only get this one life and once it's over, that's irrevocably and terminally it, maybe they wouldn't be such fucking idiots throwing theirs and others away
Romanticizing it like that might be appealing for healthy, able-bodied people in the first world, but what do you say to someone who's trapped in some kind of horrible life or has some kind of medical condition that science can't fix, and their circumstances mean that the only existence they'll ever know is one of misery? Or do you just think that if everyone became atheists, suddenly we'd all come together and immediately end all human suffering, cure all diseases, and create utopia on Earth?

Atheism doesn't necessarily make people good. That's just a myth propagated by self-important shitheads like Richard Dawkins.

>>378278391
How do you figure?

>>378279090
Everyone has a reason for escapism.

>>378279090
Life is not the same for everyone

>>378277002
>What exactly are you arguing here?
religious fag not able to understand simple sentences and logic.

I know stereotypical is true to some extend,
but this is too much.
we literally have a retarded religious nutjob here

>>378279330
Not sure what you mean.

>>378279339
Not sure what you mean, either.

All you see around you is fated to end.
You will be deceived. Things are going to be taken from you. Even your parents and siblings you betray you.


Forget all material and carnal desires.
Just believe in God.

>>378279363
>I know stereotypical is true to some extend
what did he mean by this?

>>378279363
God grant me patience to talk sense into idiots who still have half a brain, and the serenity to disregard the nonsensical ravings of those who don't

>>378279570
>Even your parents and siblings you betray you.
*Even your parents and siblings will betray you.

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>>378279996
Life won't always be easy...
Some people, like you, need to lose someone. Or even lose to your mind.

>>378275693
>if more people understood that we only get this one life and once it's over, that's irrevocably and terminally it, maybe they wouldn't be such fucking idiots throwing theirs and others away.
Or maybe they'd be even bigger fucking idiots and become *more* willing to throw theirs, and especially others', away, because who cares? It's all just survival of the fittest, man! No right or wrong, just winners and losers, and I'll wipe out everyone standing between me and winning!

It could go either way.

I believe there is a god just like I believe we drift in a vacuum on a small sphere.

But what I don't believe in a HELL.

The existence of a HELL doesn't make any sense. Like, there are people who were born into a world of fighting and killing (see child soldiers) and you mean to tell me that they deserve to go to HELL!? That's literally all they were taught and know in this world. There's no way you can punish them. If HELL exist and those people get punished then GOD would have to explain it to me and even when he does I would still think it's the wrong thing to do. Because had I been born in that situation I wouldn't have a change at seeing the HEAVENLY GATES. Also, what's the purpose of a HEAVEN? Like, what do we do there? Just being happy and praising my GOD isn't something I'm interested in during for eternality. Hope he offers me a job or something, like being a grimreaper.

>>378280508
Are we copying forum signatures from the 90s now?

If there's a god he would have to ask for MY forgiveness.

>>378280986
I agree that Hell is a stupid idea, even for the worst people on Earth. I think there should be some kind of justice, and the "life review" described by people who have near-death experiences would seem to suffice - apparently you're made to experience everything you did to others as if you were them. Seems fair.

They also say that Heaven, if you want to call it that, isn't just sitting around and praising God. It's interesting, and you can do stuff there.

If NDEs are to be believed, the afterlife actually isn't a very religious place.

> /v/ trying to convince themselves there's something after you croak
th there's nothing /-/-/v/
BUURRRRRPPPP once you die th th thats it literally
d-d-dont work y-y-yourself over it
there is no no god and no afterlife

I just have this dumb theory that famous/smart/influential etc people are just playing on ng+ with their retained memories

Would be fun to haunt an MMO, play like any other players but not an actual client to track to. Possibly getting access to all the serverside values and can modify RNG for a bit.
Have to be a very populated MMO to make it inconspicuous.

>>378273067
Hi Dagda

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>>378270123
oak nuggins

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>>378269990
I like to think that a Cloud Atlas situation happens, but I really doubt it actually happens.
Those deja vu moments you get? Those happen because you really did so something similar in a previous life. You just get forced into a new body and make the same mistakes over and over again, every little deed you do, good or bad, changing your eventual fate.
It's gay as fuck but I think it's neat.

>>378269990
One thing we can all agree on is, whatever form we currently take, ceases to exist.

I don't think we have anything special in store though, no more, than an insect you stepped on. It's just gone.

So really, the only thing that "happens" after you die, is whatever legacy you left behind goes on. For example, your kids, the things you taught them. Maybe you wrote a book that inspires lots of people for decades. Maybe a series of paintings that become part of popular culture. That's it. That's all that can carry on after you die.

It's pretty cool though that we're given the ability to mate with someone and make a hybrid clone of each other, and then raise that kid, instilling your knowledge and values in him or her.

Failing all that, I think at the most basic level, just saying something nice to someone or lending a helping hand, could cause a positive ripple effect across time, even after your dead.

Of course you can't help but feel a little sad for yourself. That you don't get to see how things turn out at least. Nope. You just become nothing.

>>378283628
>So really, the only thing that "happens" after you die, is whatever legacy you left behind goes on. For example, your kids, the things you taught them. Maybe you wrote a book that inspires lots of people for decades. Maybe a series of paintings that become part of popular culture. That's it. That's all that can carry on after you die.
>It's pretty cool though that we're given the ability to mate with someone and make a hybrid clone of each other, and then raise that kid, instilling your knowledge and values in him or her.
>Failing all that, I think at the most basic level, just saying something nice to someone or lending a helping hand, could cause a positive ripple effect across time, even after your dead.
Symbolic immortality is a stupid idea.

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>>378269990
What do you think happened before you're born?

You don't exist.

>>378277609
My grandmother did. She was legally dead for a while apparently in the hospital, more than a few minutes. But they eventually were able to resuscitate her.
When my dad visited her, she asked him if something happened to her during the night because her chest hurt.
That was the moment my father tells me he lost his faith in any sort of afterlife.

Pick a god and pray.

>>378278070
>when you're a cuck with 10 charisma

>>378272174
Kek

>>378284578
why?
I mean, the matter that makes up "you" (to use that term lightly) is still there, it just isn't in one cohesive network anymore. An imprint on society and/or culture is the closest thing to immortality that exists really, when talking about the human condition

>>378284578
But that's really all there is, call it whatever you want.

>>378285772
>I mean, the matter that makes up "you" (to use that term lightly) is still there, it just isn't in one cohesive network anymore.
I guess the Twin Towers still exist, too. After all, the matter that they were made of still technically exists, it just isn't in two cohesive networks anymore.

Your consciousness is gone. You are your consciousness. Therefore, you are gone.

>An imprint on society and/or culture is the closest thing to immortality that exists really, when talking about the human condition
The fact that it's the closest thing to immortality doesn't change the fact that it's still far, far, far, far, faaaaaaaaaar away from it.

>>378285937
I do. I call it idiotic. Don't try to hide the depressing implications of your worldview under a poorly-constructed veil of "But you'll live on in the memories of others!"

>>378276652
>Religious strife has killed more fucking people than the plague.
Fact

>>378276652
>Only if you include muslims


This right here proves why religion is a bad idea. You fucks can't stop pointing fucking fingers. Anyone that goes around killing dudes in the name of a higher power is at fault, and last I checked all you lot who claim yours is the true path have killed to prove it. There is no justifiable faith killing.

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>>378286509
Right, because atheists never engage in mass murder.

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>>378269990
You have to replay on hard mode, DUH!

This involves a bonus of at least one disease.

>>378269990
I like to think that when you die, you just rot in the ground. No continue conciousness.

I can't think of anything scarier than Heaven or Hell, sounds like the ultimate torture, trillions upon trillions of years.

Sure Heaven sounds great at first, but you gotta think long term. After say like 600 billion years, you are going to have done everything, that has ever or will ever been invented, you still have ETERNITY to go... boring as fuck..

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>It's another thread where a thread gets 450+ posts and has little if nothing to do with video games but stays up because it has just a tiny reference with video games because of a sentence the OP said or pic is related to video games
Do the mods even care anymore

>>378286509
>can't stop pointing fingers
Yeah, except when was the last time you saw a large group of christians or Jews killing a great deal of people in the name of their faith?
Don't act like religion is the reason for mass murder. We have Stalin, as >>378287478 pointed out to prove you wrong about that.
Hell, even Hitler proves just how horrible persecution of faith can be. So you best be careful Goebbels.

>>378288081
So the argument is "The human mind can't comprehend eternity, but *my* human mind can sure as hell comprehend that eternity would suck."

Who's to say that existence doesn't have ways of keeping things interesting forever that we just can't understand from our limited perspective?

>>378286509
>There is no justifiable faith killing.
Says the faggot screaming from the rooftops that we should kill all people that don't believe the same thing he does.

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>>378273301
BRAAAAAAAP

>>378288387
Yeah sure, theres a high chance you would be filled with enlightenment, and just sitting down closing your eyes would be like 50 orgasms.

I'm just saying, Eternity is a long long long fucking time, and I don't think I want to experience it.

>>378288973
You know, the whole reincarnation thing could actually be a simple solution to that problem. Things don't get old because you keep forgetting about them. I've seen more than one thread on /v/ and elsewhere about how people wish they could experience something again for the first time. Reincarnation + past life amnesia would make that possible.

>>378289150
See Reincarnation works purely because you don't remember your old life.
It really really works.

The good news is, I don't remember any old lives, and the universe has been around for hundreds of billions of years.

Might come back as some alien slug 60,000 light years from here.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/feeling-too-much/201412/children-who-seemingly-remember-past-lives


Reincarnation. I suppose you can call it made up bullshit but believe what you will.

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>>378273209
I have no idea why this made me laugh so hard but thanks anon

>>378269990
You don't even need cheats and save states for NG+ in life to be cool. Just let me keep my memories.

>>378277315
God can actually run BoTW in 16K 600FPS on his RIG.

>>378287478
>the exception somehow proves the rule
okay you get one, now wheres the rest? you got a lot of jihads and crusaders and holy wars to match up with. tell me you got more than like 5 major guys because religion's been killing people longer than we've been measuring years.

>>378288357
except when was the last time you saw a large group of christians or Jews killing a great deal of people in the name of their faith?
How long ago was it that the KKK stopped killing people? They're christians. Also discounting 2 religions out of the hundreds that exist doesn't really prove anything? We've had thousands of years of religious killing being more prevalent than non religious killing, but that's not fair on religion, because it's been around and in power longer. To be fair the only real comparison will be able to be made in a few thousand years after it's died out. If we're all still killing people then I'll totally take back what I said, and it's humans that are shit, not those using religion to control the masses.

>>378288419
>point out something.
>you're screaming you faggot
Oh fuck off your reactionary pissbaby. Other people have different opinions to you, deal with it. I never once said we should kill anyone who doesn't believe what I believe. I said we should stop killing people over religion, if you think that means I want to kill you then you've got a real fucking problem you idiot.

Schopenhauer was right. Natalism is a mistake and girls are whores.

>>378287789
>someone took the time to make that picture and couldn't even figure out the answer to their own question.
Gays are the ones who are affected by the misconception, no one else. Of course they're going to be the most vocal in the defence. It would be nice to think that people stick up for each other, but they don't, so they have to defend themselves.

>>378269990
I'd like to think I live in an eternal sandbox where anything and everything is possible.

I sometimes get panic attacks thinking of all my dead forefathers all so I could live.

>>378290368
>okay you get one, now wheres the rest? you got a lot of jihads and crusaders and holy wars to match up with. tell me you got more than like 5 major guys because religion's been killing people longer than we've been measuring years.
So atheist murderers are the exception and religious murderers are the rule? Not true. Jihadis and crusaders are the minority among their faiths. You don't get to say that the group you don't approve of should be judged by the actions of the worst people with any connection to it. I don't get to say that Stalin represents all atheists, and you don't get to say that murderous zealots represent everyone who believes in God.

>>378269990
>maybe you get NG+ after you die

in what game do you get fucking NG+ when you die instead of game over?

>>378269990
Honestly, I believe that we are reabsorbed back into the universe and into what religious people might call 'God'. It happens at both the spiritual and physical level - a human is consumed by the planet after decomposition and that person's soul, or spirit, or the sum of his or her actions rejoins its origin. Maybe I've been going through a lot of Hindu texts recently, but I think it genuinely holds truth in reality. I also think that if this is the fate of all humans and the truth of death then it is utterly horrifying, but that's unimportant.

Nonexistence is also another possible answer but I believe that is a viewpoint shared by people who feel they will get nothing done in this world and don't wish to look forward to anything after (giving up, in a sense) or people who feel they have accomplished everything they want to and don't want to conceive anything after death. Then of course you have the truly hopeless.

Regardless, it's nothing to fight over, and whatever happens after death is not an excuse to waste one's life.

>>378269990
>NG+ when you haven't even beaten the game
naw man you're fucked its game over for you

you get a next life where you make all same decisions as the first,, the next life is the same cause humans will get to point where substantiating their lives won't be possible anymore, so what better way to live again than creating this universe again to which we all get to live again,,

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I don't know. But I've had one full blown 'psychic' experience that makes me 100% sure that the mind is more than the brain.

Doesn't seem like a stretch that some aspect of the mind goes on after death of the body.

Who /solipsism/ here?
help ;_;

>>378292143
fair point. My original point was that there is no such thing as a justifiable faith killing. Which obviously should stretch to no justifiable killing in general. It'd be impossible to really judge but if you stacked up every murder in history I'd imagine religion has caused more than half though. We'll never know if those murders would have not happened if there had not been religion but I am curious as to religion was the cause for so much murder or merely an excuse for humans to do what they seem programmed to want to do anyway.

I wish the peaceful side of religion was the more prominent side. Sadly it seems like judging and fear and controlling the masses was how it was used against the general populace. Now religion seems way more tame because the media has taken control instead. People used to worship the good book, now they worship the TV. Which is usually shouting at them, and nearly never anything positive.