Let's have a La-Mulana thread
Post your favorite/least favorite
>Area
>Boss
>Puzzle/Riddle
OP here, least favorite area is definitely Chamber of Birth.
Reeeee when is LM 2 coming out i've been waiting 3274923849283749283749283 years
if it dosn't come out this year i'll kill myself
and i'm not even joking
>>378255387
Sure Anon. Favorite / Lease Favorite:
>Inferno Cavern / Twin Labyrinth
>Palanque / Bahamut
>Getting the Chain Whip / Mantras
>>378256749
t. Mother.
>>378256921
>Chain whip
You know what I meant
Will the next game have the "puzzles" where you place a weight and then something unknown happens 50 screens away?
Do they still post updates for it?
>>378256921
Yeah Bahamut was a bitch to fight. When I fought him for the first time I didn't have the Axe and I was wondering how the fuck I am supposed to deal enough damage. Even tried the Flare Gun but ran out of ammo.
Why are the bosses in the second half of this game so much better than the first half?
Or, why are the first half of this games bosses so bad?
The first boss only has one attack, the second boss only has two or so, the third boss is a fucking minecart racer that gets faster and faster but he only has two attacks, and the fourth boss, despite having one of the best gameplay mechanics in the entire game, only has 3 attacks.
Meanwhile, Viy has two attacks while you have to manage climbing up and keeping his tendrils down, Baphomet has 7 attacks and two phases while she teleports around and summons minions, Palenque has 5 attacks and several obsticals as well as being a shmup, Tiamat has three phases and a total of 8 or so attacks, and the final boss has five fucking phases each with a ton of different attacks, the final phase having over 10 attacks alone.
Why did the first few bosses get so heavily shafted?
>>378257845
I think the second half of the bosses is meant to represent the fact that you're getting into "the real shit" of the game with the backsides and what not. The first 4 bosses are fairly self-contained in their areas and don't require you to access any backside areas if I recall correctly.
But yeah as for why the attack patterns of the first bosses are so easy, no real idea.
Gonna dump some shit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rfhi6I84hM
>>378257845
Really ? Well, fuck, I'll try to get into the game again. The fighting seemed rather mediocre so I kind of stoped caring after the third boss.
>>378257224
They actually said they wanted to address that this time around, so there will likely be a cutaway where they show you what's happened.
this is a thread i can get behind
>>378257294
Every friday.
>>378258291
>Cutscenes
La-mulana is pure Ludo, they wouldnt ruin its representation as that by adding obtrusive and momentum breaking cutscenes, right?
That being said the thing the other anon was talking about literally never happens outside the chamber of birth
I played and finished Hollow Knight a 100%.
Is La-Mulan actually good or some overhyped /v/ garbage?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7UulnIcuC0
>>378258391
>>378258142
>>378258667
did they ever posted a high resolution version of that huge world map that explained a lot of shit?
>>378258653
how about you go play it and find out for yourself?
>>378258653
It's very very hard and thus very satisfying when you make progress. You will need to take notes and pay attention to absolutely everything.
I haven't even played Hollow Knight but I guarantee you the hardest sections of that game are nothing compared to LM.
>>378258653
Are you implying that Hollow Knight isn't good?
Anyway, the games are pretty different. Hollow Knight much more action focused while La-Mulana is much more puzzle focused. Don't play LM if you're not ready for some cryptic bullshit and a lot of not knowing where the fuck to go.
>>378258653
It's actually good. You can even play the old freeware version if you want to try it out instead of buying the remake, it plays a little differently though. But if you're not willing to put the time in then it's not for you.
>>378258653
Please keep HK vs LM shitposting in the metroidvania containment threads thank u
>>378259259La-mulana isnt a metroidvania because the map is inconsistent and doesnt connect to eachother at all as well as the fact only 10% of the items are movement upgrades/weapons that open up previously closed off areas.
I got stuck for an hour at the start. I had to get a friend to tutor me. I was inside the main dungeon and I had no idea what to for a long ass time that it kept getting backlogged until he helped get to the first boss, then I did everything until that fucking disastrous fake temple garden. Jesus that was horrifying.
>>378259427
>map is inconsistent
What are you trying to say? Plenty of areas are interconnected, there are shortcuts and shit all around and the map layout is intentional forthe Mantra puzzles
>>378259441
Should have read the manual and taken notes.
>>378259759
Thanks for posting these, love the lore
>>378259729
You cant make a world-map of la-mulana without pieces of the map overlapping with eachother or being in the "wrong" places.
Unlike Super Metroid or SotN, you cant make a map of the entire game
>>378260489
Middle one is best
>>378260458
>it doesn't fit in a 2d sheet so it's inconsistent
Retard
>>378260649
the final one definitely grew on me
Porn when
>>378260458
Then Metroid 2 also isn't a Metroidvania.
>>378260458
Well I guess you're right but I wouldn't call that "inconsistent". It's not like the game was aiming to do that. But yeah it's not much of a metroidvania. I pretty much view it as a puzzle game with platformer mechanics.
This is why there aren't many La-Mulana speedrunners.
why weapon balance is so shit?
axe is useful from nearly the start and up to the battle with Mother while shit like knife is barely used
>>378261051
More sequence breaking and non-linearity is good for speedruns though. I'm not too informed about LM speedruns but I'm pretty sure there also isn't much RNG involved and certain stuff like abusing the caltrops speeds up the game a lot.
>>378260834
Baphoment second phase and tiamat deserves more porn than they ever got.including futa baphomet on mulbruk or tiamat orlemeza
>>378261184
It also makes it very difficult to find the fastest route.
>>378261184
On the contrary, the fact its so non-linear makes the game a hell to speedrun because creating a route is like solving a 10000 piece puzzle
>>378260780
>>378261094
Knife is useful for things in speedrunning and hard mode until you get the gauntlet
Axe is useful all around
Knife Sword is literally useless
Katana is literally useless unless youre trying to fight Palenque without using subweapons then it becomes the most useful weapon
Is there a way you can view the beastiary if you dont have the vita version?
>>378261376
What is this
posting best girl
>>378261574
I always thought of taking a screenshot of every single entry of the beastiary, but never got around to it.
Also, spoilers that i forgot to put on, these are all the portraits for the NPCs, like instead of the little sprites when you enter a shop, now we get something like that.
>>378261801
>>378257294
That's my biggest gripe with the bosses, you are either underpowered or overpowered, there's rarely any middle ground.
>>378261475
I don't know why they nerfed the katana so hard. It was one of the most useful weapons in the original game.
>>378261954
Has anyone else gotten the 100% ending?
>>378262842
of course?
>>378262842
>>378262916
Bullshit. I cant beat the game without reaching the 10 hout mark and theres never enough time for hell
>>378261192
Shit, dude, I was thinking of stuff like Mulbruk or the Fairy Queen, I'm not that hardcore
>>378259759
No more of those?
>>378263298
in case you don't understand, each character in the ending means a different thing
http://lamulana-remake.wikia.com/wiki/Endings
that was my hard mode, no fairy armor on hell temple and no sub weapons on bosses run.
>>378263406
Nope.
>>378263328
>Futanari
>Hardcore
Then again, baphomet is fuckhuge and mulbruk/lemeza are tiny, so them fucking would likely involve tags: anal, stomach bulge, large insertions, nakadashi, etc
>>378263578
There are more on the backer forum tho, I dont have access to the kickstarter page because I backed after the kickstarter ended
>>378263627
Sorry, I should've said "disgusting".
>>378263846
>disgusting
Normalfag please.
I seriously hope you guys did it.
If not, you're horrible human beings and deserve death.
>>378264073
Glad I didn't, this shit is taking forever, they messed up something really bad.
>>378264073
Get on my level, nigga.
I wish this game was playable. Rainworld has nothing on this fuckfest
>>378264073
I paid 276$
>>378264258
>>378264073
only thing i ever backed.
would have given more, but this was the highest tier that would give me something after the KS ended
>>378264343
>rainworld
Is that good?
>>378264073
>>378264258
>Didnt get the physical copies of both games
I feel sorry for you
>>378264532
Game doesn't explain core mechanics to you and you have to start over multiple times because random events so I really don't know
>>378264258
>>378264445
>>378264514
>>378264541
You're making me look bad now.
S-stop.
>>378264659
What
>>378264238
Deciding to replace the engine instead of just use the first games probably didn't help.
>>378261051
That and well..
Current WR is 1:23:08.
But man, watching RDD do it is a blast.
>>378264541
I feel sorry for me too. I went for the artwork since there were only eight available, but I want that LM1 physical box.
>>378262842
hell yeah, mother fucker
>>378264709
Game doesn't respect players enough to tell you that if you die, regardless if you saved or not, you're fucked. If you die you lose the special flower that gets you to the next level without any visual indication and you have to backtrack all the way to where you found the flower for each "area"
Does anyone know what stretch goals are being added when including the paypal donations?
Are they going to add stretch goals if they make the goal through donations after the kickstarter?
>>378265287
>Got the "dont talk to mulbruk after beating hell temple" ending 2 hours after the "talk to mulbruk after beating hell temple" hmm
>>378265335
I was dissapointed at this change from OG to Remake.
But eh, the rest of the game was worth it.
>>378265326
I really wanted to like rainworld
truly I did, I love the minimalist feel of the game and I love exploring games and figuring shit out myself
but the game is absolutely indifferent to you in the shittiest of ways when it comes to losing progress to dying and random enemy placement fucking you over
>>378265478
he loaded a save?
>>378265478
Just keep a save before giving her the suit dingus
>>378264771
Agreed. I was blown away when he showed off a new trick that had never been seen before at SGDQ last year. Apparently he figured it out during practice.
It's the trick where you re-enter the Shrine of the Mother three or four times and it duplicates a moving platform.
>>378261051
>LOTS OF FUN
I never did complete Hell temple.
>>378265483
I heard there were a few changes specifically to mess with people who played original. Wasn't there also a column in Mother's shrine which you had to stop time for, only for it to not get affected by it in the remake?
>>378265857
Anon..There's a new Shrine of the Mother trick.Its where you go from Death Seal room to Map roomSaves about 14 seconds, and you never have to "Awaken the Twins"
Bump desu
>>378266321
That part was one of the worst design flaws the remake has
>Hurr go get the talisman from the temple of the sun which doesnt tell you to go there, talk to xelpud even though theres no hint to, go to this place in the shrine of the mother that didnt have a chest earlier that you wouldnt have known about and after finding that area talk to xelpud again and go back to get the diary and then talk to xelpud again
There is literally nothing in the game that tells you how to do this
The original puzzle was way better designed
>>378265698
God, this place us infuriating
>>378258128
Yeah, the two snakes, stone giant, running lizard and leviathan all didn't require access to anything but their own zones, after them shit opens up.
>>378268220
But you can fight baphomet just by taking a jewel from a previous fight and then go to twin labyrinths, do the black/white witch puzzle, and fight her as soon as you go through
>>378267878
Actually, Xelpud asks you to come back to him with any new USE items.
Talisman is a Use item.
Plus you see daddy walking that direction either from the Water Drain or the pyramid... but yeah..
>>378268864
Okay, sure, but how were you supposed to know to go to him from the room with the falling pillar? Daddy doesnt appear in that area until after you talk to xelpud to get past it afik
>>378266321
>Wasn't there also a column in Mother's shrine which you had to stop time for, only for it to not get affected by it in the remake?
Yeah then Xelpud held it in place.
I never finished La Mulana. Having to play without a guide when stuck made me give up on the game.
I managed to get like 5 boss fights, but after that time stop enemy and all those areas i couldnt find what to do.The bullshit of having to whipe every fucking wall to get some item pisses me off,
fuckthat stupid axe
>>378255387
I abandoned it somewhere after raching chamber of birth , I dont feel like finishing it anymore , I had fun while it lasted tho
>>378268238
>killed the miniboss in C2
>thought I was fucked until I realized you can abuse monster knockback to still get up there
I love shit like this. Took me a lot of tries though, it's hard as fuck.