/v/ Suffering Chart - Now Finished! Continued from >>378225867

Now what? I had fun but it's over

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Reminder that Samus suffers much more than the chart implies.
>watches her family get killed before her eyes
>surrogate family of chozo dies too IIRC
>becomes an unfeeling, genetically-modified warrior until she comes across the Baby Metroid
>gets that stolen away from her as well
>stuck in a dead series

>>378241491
We need to make a list of all these characters in order now.

>>378241491
It's kind of a rough draft at this point. Lots of them don't really fit. It's time to make everything better.

Corrections right?

Remove:
>>378232805
completely.

And make the character switch
>>378236048

>>378241686
Who should Dorothy be replaced with?

>>378241217
We need to either seriously remove or replace Buzzo.
There's no way he somehow deserves less than Raiden.

Reminder Master Chief's position is total BS

>>378241792
No clue. Dorothy just shouldn't be on the list at all. I'll think about it though.

There is still a distinct lack of Door-kun

>>378241217
Why is /v/ in the top right corner instead of the lower right ?

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>Took Todd and Randy off
>to put Gabe
You could have put a steam icon at least, Gabe is barely a presence anymore compared to steam mooks

>>378242047
We deserve it. We deserve it all.

>>378241217
Frankly it is good the way it is, unless you want to go turbo autist and wait for all of 4chan to scream at each other over every position.

>>378241217
>Adachi that high at suffering
Who was the faggot that put this dipshit there? He shouldn't even be close to it

>>378241217
>Corrin 20S 95D

How?

>>378241854
>>378241952
>>378242289
There was basically 0 quality control when actually adding characters.

>>378242298
I keep mentioning that he should make it Azura but he won't listen. Corrin doesn't fit.

>>378242405
Exactly. That's what this thread is for.

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Where does Walker belong in all of this?

>>378242518
good luck

>>378242405
Well no one was contesting anything when the chart was being made

>>378241970
>>378241792
Fine. Victoria from Life is Strange. She's the only one I can think of who deserves to suffer, suffered a little, but doesn't deserve extreme versions of either. She should fit well.

>>378242556
He's 85,80

>>378241217
Too many reps and secondary characters on that list imo. Fixing that would be neat

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>>378241217
who's 100, 100 and why?

>>378241217
>red ring rico
>deserving any suffering

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>Ridley takes up 4 squares

>Kat is still poorly placed
Do something research about the characters

>>378242665
Hatred Protag. He deserves as much suffering as possible.

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>>378242289
Agreed. I even know who to replace him with.

This bitch right here.

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>>378242769
???

>>378242665
The Nameless One

He really deserves that spot.

>>378242665
>>378242769
Ain't that the planetside torment dude?

>>378242769
Um. No. He's from Planescape Torment

>>378242828
MC from Planescape Torment
He did lots of bad things. And suffered.

There's a lot of characters on there just because of hate-boners when they really didn't deserve any of it.

>>378242665
dude play planescape torment
Nameless one completely deserves it

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So is anybody currently changing the chart based on this thread, or is it just futile suggestions?

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>>378242665
The Nameless One, Planescape Torment

>>378242692
>Ridley takes up 4 squares

>>378242935
We're waiting for based ChartGuy2 to get back.

arcturus mengsk should be on there

>>378242084
Switch Mario with Terry Bogard

Mario can be a monster at times

I made lunch and I'm reading through the thread, someone circle what they want changed. I'll try my best, but at this point its gonna take me longer to fix certain things because I took over form the guy last night.

So I have to cut out pictures and replace them.

>>378243119
Right of Shodan

>tetris blocks at 40 deserving and 0 suffering
Someone care to explain?

>>378243265
My guess is that these pieces are annoying.

But they don't suffer at all.

>>378243265
always hogging the limelight from the line piece

>>378243463
>>378243478
Doesn't they die when you fill the line?

>>378242665
Nameless one. The good ending is him going to hell to be punished for his crimes

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>Sol
>Deserving any suffering at all
DELETE THIS

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>>378242828
>>378242847
>>378242864
yeah how could I have ever POSSIBLY gotten them mixed up? Never played torment.

>>378243265
it the fucking L-Block
never fits and is utter bullshit

>>378243661
Earlier the nameless one was near the deserved 100, and I did mistake the 100-100 as him too earlier so you are right.

what is it with the ridley meme?

>>378242443
This. For gods sake just make it happen.

>>378243792
2big4smash

>>378243792
2big4smash

>>378241217
who is x0y100?

>>378242298
I think he was just put in early and then people forgot he was even there.

But yeah, chartguy pls.

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>>378243843
oh now i get it
lol
can we replace kratos picture with one that shows more suffering?

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>>378243236
Here are two suggestions I think would be helpful to the chart.

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Here
Red circle: switch with:
>>378242804

Red/green x: remove
maybe listen to this?
>>378242608


Green square:
>>378241686
"make the character switch"

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>>378243973
Working on it.

>>378243969

Post a pic of Kratos Suffering, and I'll do it

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>>378243792

>Lavos
>0 suffering
Did the final boss battle not happen?

>>378243934
>he hasn't played brawl

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>>378244108
OP pls, we gotta fix this. Terry dindu nuffin while Mario is a genocidal maniac
>>378243170

>>378244210
>he hasn't played mother 3

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>>378244108
i'll post some and you decide if one of it is good enough

>>378241217
Where is Chris Redfield on this and why isn't he at 100 Suffering and 0 Deserve?

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>>378244108

>>378244317
I have but he'd be more likely to remember him as "that guy from smash bros".

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>>378244108
last one

>>378244364
That's overboard. He's at least a cop. Picking a job like cop, soldier, secret agent GIVES you an immediate +20 suffering. It's part of the job that you see shit and shit happens to you.

Compare that to Chiaki who is a student who did nothing wrong but sees her beloved classmates die and then is horrifically tortured and murdered slowly.

>>378244364
You havent played many games if you believe that Chris deserves 100 suffering

>>378244494
Fair point.

>>378244583
this one definately

>>378244628
>>378244626
Spot on.

>>378241217
layton must be under lucas

>>378244458
or this one if the other one is too big

Why does Crono even deserve 60 suffering?

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>Emile is on the chart
>i thought i could forget about the pain of seeing him get executed
>mfw i can't

>>378244958
I think Chartguy just threw him in randomly. I don't think anyone suggested him even. I said Takano Miyo.

Replace that Yoko Taro thing with Otacon. Otacon has to have 100 suffering
>pisses himself
>literally everytone he has ever loved dies
>created a nuclear weapon that could end the planet by accident
>SS dies, Naomi dies, Sunny is gone from his life, Sniper Wolf dies
>His sister dies in his arms
>his father killed himself
>his father nearly killed Otacon by putting him in the Metal Gear
>father killed mother
>father tried to kill his sister
Otacon never deserved this. He was just a poor guy that was too smart. All he wanted to do was save the world with Snake. Everyone he has ever loved, aside from Sunny, has been killed.

>>378241217
>xbox
>gabe
can we please get actual characters for those spots?

>>378241217
this is terrible and obviously looks like you just shoehorned characters in different places to fill holes, like nameless one being 100 deserves instead of fucking 0

>>378245249
I agreed till you said Nameless one deserves 0 suffering. He was being PUNISHED for his evil last time I checked. He deserves the 100/100 spot.

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>>378241217
why does alpha series big daddy deserver to suffer?

>>378241217
>Pac-Man
>0 suffering

>>378244064


Good for the Azura correction but Adachi and Dorothy gotta go. Adachi did NOT suffer whatsoever and Dorothy is at 0/0 as she barely does shit.

>>378245501
he got a wife
eats pellets, ghosts and fruits all day.
his is living the high life.

>>378244108
>Rover deserving that much
That meme doesn't even make sense.

>>378245596
Did you play pac-man 2? He suffers all day

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>>378245596
>got a wife
>0 suffering

can someone link the versions from the other boards?

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Alright lets go through this part first.

What stays, what goes.

>>378245596
He constantly gets chased by ghosts in a maze for all eternity

>Alphys
>a character who contemplated suicide over hating herself and her life so much
>5% suffering

>>378245727
This, I thought this was going down a different path when he started the post.

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Who's that at 30/100?

>>378245886
Xbox obviously.

>>378245886
Xbox probably.

Possible switch? Takano Miyo from Higurashi though I think she could be placed at a lower Suffering (Someone said she'd be a better switched for chrono at 40,60)

>>378245886
Miller suffered a lot but it was definitely not 100-tier suffering.

>>378245886
The extremes/corners of the chart aren't the problem children though. The problem is 4 square Ridley and basically any character not near an extreme should be near one. Only a few characters like Travis actually land themselves a spot in the middle.

>>378245214
Sunny is not gone from his life, if you take the events of MGS:R as canon then she merely went on with her life but still keeps in contact with Otacon here and there.

>>378245886
I'm not sure why Subject Delta is so far to the right, especially when the characters he's compared to are NIER and Dante. Delta genuinely didn't do anything wrong of his own volition: he was either operating almost completely against his will in service of the Ryan state, or if you played Bioshock 2 right only killed people in self-defense and actively spared those who didn't deserve to die.

Swap him and the gent in 20.

>>378245886
>Xbox at 95/65
Did I miss something about that? In any case, I'm not seeing too much to change or outright remove besides that. Maybe swap Mega Man X with the guy below him.

>>378245924
You can't kill her tho and she gets off scot-free

>>378241217
A lot of odd choices on this list

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>NITW cat deserves to suffer as much as mass murderers
>brad deserves to suffer less than buzzo
>handsome ace detective manny pardo deserving to suffer at all
>adachi doing anything wrong at all
shit list

>>378246170
>The problem is 4 square Ridley
nah

>>378246170
I think he's planning on going through every row.

>>378246320
>adachi doing anything wrong at all
Memes aside, he really did fuck things up.

>>378246320
brad deserves to suffer more than buzzo*
Is what I meant to put

>>378245886
It's fine. Change XBOX only.

Swap X -> Dusty

Remove Xbox

Put that Guy below X in X's Spot

Move Delta to that Guys Spot?

Sound Good?

We then Have S95 D65 Open

>>378245924
For creating a threat to all existence and inadvertently condemning her people to be tortured to death repeatedly, getting depressed over not revealing the horrible zombies she made out of peoples' lost loved ones is pretty light in terms of suffering.

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>>378245886

Brad is right where he should be

>>378246432
>>378246432
>>We then Have S95 D65 Open
Maybe move that row from takeru on to the right, and put door there?

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>>378246320
>>378246408

Yeah, Buzzo should be further along the X axis than Brad

>>378245886
>implying Fei Long Dong didn't deserve almost all of what he got
I know the vast majority of people didn't finish Disc 2 for obvious reasons, but come on.

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>>378246556

>>378246432
95/65 for evil Cole maybe?
It's the best I can think of right now, although it's maybe too high on the suffering score

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>>378246354
>we have to waste four squares on an unfunny meme because trying to cast spots is too hard
>nintenbros
I'm going back to /his/, their chart making skills are better

>>378246598

Put Buzzo in S95 D65

Is 9S on this list

>>378246664
What did Buzzo do wrong?

>>378246432
Dusty doesn't deserve any more than 10, I wouldn't say.

>>378246462
She deserves suffering a lot, honestly, but that doesn't change that she suffered quite a lot more than the chart implies IMO.

>>378245886
remove X-Box and we'll fill up the space later

>>378246672
Right to the left of the soon to be removed Xbox.

>>378245886
Is the person in 75,95 supposed to be Volgin, The Fury, or the final boss of Haunting Ground?

>>378245214
Nah, Emil literally experienced 10,000 years of Suffering
>world is dying
>Emil and his sister get experimented on
>get turned into weapons
>His Eyes petrify anyone he looks at
>Lives in isolated mansion for thousand years
>Loses Memories
>Discovers his now monstrous sister
>gets devoured by her
>has too kill her and absorbs her power
>regains memories
>becomes a skeleton and horrified by it
>has to stay outside village because villagers are afraid of him
>loses control of his power and accidentally kills a whole village
>sacrifices himself so friends can go defeat Shadowlord
>survives as only a head
>one of only two friends gives up his entire existence
>everyone he knew dies
>spends hundreds of years struggling against alien invasion
>makes so many copies he loses memories
>protects friend's home for 10,000 years
>gets captured by machines
>realizes that he is no longer needed in this world
>tries to fight his clones that are going nuclear
>remembers his friends as he's about to die
>doesn't even get to rest in peace as some of his clones are still around, but lost their memories again

Emil suffered literally for thousands of years. He is more deserving of the spot than Otacon.

>>378246719
>Blamed Brad because he couldn't save Lisa himself
>Helped Yado
>Ruined Brad's dojo and mutilated Dusty
>Helps distribute Joy throughout the wasteland, making everything exponentially worse
>Torments Brad excessively (cuts off his arm, hurts Buddy, kills his friends, takes his supplies)
>In the end even admits he was an asshole to Brad because of his own insecurities and failures

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>>378246719

He was manipulated a bit by LISA but it started with taking a buzzsaw to Dusty's face and Brad's gym, relentlessly tormenting Brad far more than he deserved, doing Yado's bidding up until the end and passing out Joy like candy with his gang

What did Captain King do to deserve any suffering?

>>378245886
Swap Isaac with Rando

>>378245886
Iaac is perfect, lucas too. Miller is awkward.

Jim Raynor should be in Asriel's place.

>>378246719
Released dangerous drugs to everyone
Blamed Brad for Lisa's death because he didn't want to shoulder it by himself
Cut off Brad's arm(s)
Killed Brad's friend(s)
Mutilated Brad's daughter
Mutilated Brad's son

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alright so where going with this

I'm going to say Dusty can go to 25 Deserved for not stopping Buddy when he had the chance.

Freed Up 2 spaces, I have no idea who the original blue guy was where Delta went.

>>378245886
Lucas
Megaman
Planescape guy
All gone

Add Anthony Burch at 100/100

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>>378246475
Brad didn't deserve 90% of the shit that happened to him

>>378247380
clean those edited squares up, they look sloppy

>>378247431
how about fuck you.

>>378247610
How about no?

>>378246948
You forgot how their caretaker during his stay in the science facility were they experimented on him betrayed both him and his sister then one guy almost killed him by beating the shit out of him in the drama CD, then is forced to kill several people as colateral damage by the same guy during a Legion attack.
And a giant boar chased him for months and he also is gay.

>>378247380
Did you think I wasn't autistic enough to reply to you a 3rd time about Terry and Mario? Well you're wrong. Do it faggolo

>>378247661
could you not?

>>378245886
Why the FUCK is Cole Phelps at 95 suffering and 70 deserved?

Isaac Clarke should probably be a bit more to the left, maybe swap him and Marston?

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>>378245596
He became a meme

>>378246047
Blue hair jesus deserves a spot at low deserved it with mid to high suffering. He died for our sins, but he accidently contributed to the fall.

>>378247380
Very good so far with the changes. Switching X with rando was a good move.

>>378247939
nice work

>>378247380
>Adachi is still on the list
If you are going row by row, I'll wait. If not, he's gotta move or be removed.

S: 95
D: 40

IS Open, once we fix that, we'll move down to the 80-90

>>378241217
Feels like there are too many characters from the same series in this chart. Most of the SMT protags should go since they have their own suffering chart.

>>378247939
Ayyy that's good.
Miller still feels a little bit high, and Buzzo is still there next to Bowser, but the current changes are good.

>>378247464

He did some really bad shit to get Buddy back, especially if you make certain choices, but it was the undeserved suffering up to that point that made him the broken man that did those things.

I would argue that 0-50 Deserved is like what they get based on their actions, while above 50 is what they should get based on their actions and how horrible they are.

>>378247939
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE EEE

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>>378247380
>removed takeru
What the fuck are you doing

>>378248069
I feel like we could do 3-4 rows at a time as we near the middle of the chart. Those spots aren't as contested.

>>378248069
What about the guy from Hearts of Stone (Witcher 3)? The guy who asked the wishes?
Ogliered von Everec

Maybe my anons can agree or disagree with that?

>>378248173
Why the fuck would you remove him? Add him back now.

Swap Chuckster (S0 D15) and the Tetris pieces (S0 D40)

Takeru will probably be placed in the 90-80 range.

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>>378247939
HOLD ON A SECOND BOYS,

I'M SEEING DOUBLE

>>378248368
This is why we need a list of characters to check for these errors.

>>378248045
If anything he should be lower on suffering.

>>378247939
Adam Jensen deserves much much more suffering and suffers far less
S: 60~70
D: 30~40

>>378248368
You guys are fucking autistic as fuck.

We're going through the 100-90 right now.

I'm gonna move John Marston up 1 spot, and we're moving onto 90-80

>>378248341
I don't think you played the game if you say he suffers anything less than 90

>>378241217
Balrog def deserves a little suffering. He is responsible for the deaths of a few mimiga

>>378247939
Cole should be lower on both.

>>378248069
Door-kun

>>378248454
Exactly what our problems with him are: he barely got any suffering.

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>>378247939
Potential S 95 D 40

>>378247380
Why the hell is Takeru gone?

>>378248657
It's been a bit since I've played, but what did he do to warrant 40?

>>378248591
How does door deserve anything? He can be a smart-ass at the worst.

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>Wallace Breen
>low suffering
>high deserved

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Lets get this row fixed

>>378248841
Who are we removing or swaping around.

>>378248841
Takeru seriously deserves to be in the 90-100 range.

>>378248841
Fine with me.
Does the Mole from Animal Crossing ever suffer?

>>378248816
He introduced the Player to the game and misjudged them, basically enabling the Player to destroy everything. He only stops them when it's too late already.

>>378248841
Lower Jensen and remove mr. resetti.

>>378248942
So lets replace Nino with Takeru??

>>378249026
Takeru -> Nino
Nino -> Jenson

Jenson goes to 80-70 round.

>>378245059
I know that feel brother

Am i the only one who's buttbothered that Gunther is in 95/95?

Aside from the fact he is a old cyborg lacking a headcannon he didn't suffer that much.
Also, losing your crush is something pretty damn standard
And the orange juice conspiracy was not severe enough to warranty that spot

>>378249026
Did you even listen to the complaints in this thread? 95-100

How do you quantify suffering?

>>378248138
He only did a handful of things actually wrong. Ignoring Dusty, taking joy, and teaching Buddy to kill. Him killing Marty and Rick was the joy taking over. And he was right that Buddy needed to be able to defend herself anyways.

>>378249119
I'm okay with that.

>>378247939
>Bloody Baron
>Deserved it
no
He should be like 70/10

>>378245886
Swap Delta with Venom
remove Xbox

>>378249173
Compare them to characters around them

>>378249215
He deserved alot of things. He tormented his vassals, rapes and kills innocent, beats up his wife (who deserves it to a degree of course), etc.
At best, you can lower his deserve but it's a minor thing.

>>378248961
If the player resets the game without saving ten times, he suffers an aneurysm.

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>>378248986
>>378248841
>Jensen
If you guys are gonna lower it I've got the perfect replacement for that spot

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>>378248841
In red, aren't Flowey and Asriel the same person?

Also, in blue, isn't that the same dude from I have no mouth and I must scream?

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>>378241217
>Cole Phelps 70% deserves suffering
Why, for having Asperger's and being annoying?

>>378249318
That's like in the 30s range.

Which characters suffer 10/100 on this scale, and why?

>>378247048
>abducted as a 6 year old
>underwent extreme and painful argumentation procedures and training which killed most of the other kids.
>fought against human separatists for a few years
>fought in the 25 year long Human-Covenant war
>Almost all of his friends/team were killed at Reach leaving him as one of the last true Spartans
>All of the events of the original trilogy
>gets stuck drigting in space for 5 years
>AI waifu goes crazy and dies
>she comes back, is evil and kidnaps him and his only friends
>has to get saved by a wannabe Spartan who cuckef him out of his own game.
>said soldier was also black
>AI waifu now wants to kill all sentient life

Chief probably could be moved up actually.

>>378249342
i'm pretty sure the blue that's further down and further right is meant to represent AM

>>378249342
I have no mouth box art deleted.

Free Spot S85 D95

>>378249119
Eh, I guess. I'd think suffering what he went through would be pushing 100, but that might be a good enough compromise. Actually, what's that at 95 S 20 D? Maybe he could be placed there.

>>378249342
>in blue
Oh nigga, you're right. Yea, same guy.

>>378249342
Asriel and Flowey are the same soul but are somewhat different people because of timeline bullshitery. Somewhat similar to /a/ having rika and bern as two separate characters on their chart. I'm not opposed to replacing one of them if need be though.

WERE THE FUCK IS WESKER FROM RE?

>>378249501
Thanks OP, I know this must suck to do for this long.

You can quit and hand the job over to someone else at any time

>>378249550
I see your point but

BERN AND RIKA ARE NOT THE SAME PERSON. REEEEEE.

But seriously, it's a bad example. Bern and Rika are 100% separate, while you could argue Asriel and Flowey are the same (though I'd say they could be kept separate if we are hurting for spot fillers).

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>>378241217
Where the FUCK is Iori. He deserves a spot over
>goddamn Kojima
>Yukari
>fucking Teddie
>Bea/Mae
>unrelated indieshit
>the entirety of Xbox
>Master Hand

Replace Mae or the guy from Hello Neighbor, because Junpei suffered a shit ton, while being decently deserving.
Reminder,
>no mom
>drunk dad
>found in dark hour pissing his pants
>berated and belittled
>is killed
>revived by only chance of pussy, who then also dies
>loses his bro who is killed by MC
>loses MC as well
>killed again by his robot teammate
>lives the rest of his life as bottom-tier shadow operative
>coaches little league and the kids also don't like him
>constantly dreams of proposing to dead gf
>never scored
But worst of all,
>got the worst design possible out of all concept art for P4AU

>>378242665
the guy from planet escape tournament

>>378249698
You can kind of argue that bern is a continuation of Rika and thus the same person since she's born from her memories but it's pointless to argue.

>>378249795
>Bern is a continuation of Rika
No... Rika might be a part of BERN, maybe. Don't get confused.
Takano isn't Lambdelta either.

>>378241217
there's so fucking much wrong with this

>>378249698
Well I could argue I have no mouth and I must scream is a book and not vidya too, pal

Why is Yagrum Bagarn so high on suffer?
Yes, his race disappeared and he has corpus, but he doesnt seem to mind it
I also dont think he did anything to deserve anything, he was always helpful and his backstory mentions nothing
He should at least be swapped with Dagoth Ur

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>>378249748
Put this boy into the open spot at 70 Suffering 30 Deserved

>>378249972
That's unrelated to what I'm arguing. Kek, where did THAT argument come from?

>>378249971
It's gonna take a couple threads to fix, that's for sure.

2 Spots Open

S90 D40
S90 D95

Want to Move Resetti to S90 D40?

Open up S90 D80?

>>378249945
I'm not stupid enough to argue that Lambda is Takano but I think you have it backwards when it comes to Rika's situation. The witch of miracles, Bern, exists because Rika was able to escape her fate and not the other way around.

>>378250072
Put wesker from resident evil at s90 d40
litreally did nothing wrong

>>378250038

Yeah, this is tons of retardation but at least where at this point of arguing over fixes.

>>378250038
It took /a/ a long time to finalize their chart so I'm expecting the same for this.

>>378250150
>Put wesker from resident evil at s90 d40

Everyone Okay with this??

>Ilias
>85 suffering
>45 deserved
what the FUCK

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>>378241217
> Fox not suffering enough and having some of that suffering be deserved (father killed by ex teammate, was orphaned throughout his childhood)
> Peppy not maximum suffering (got betrayed by a teammate and his best bud got killed by said betrayer) and being deserving of that suffering
> Slippy deserving suffering because MEMES

>>378250254
I actually want to straight up delete that but I know how /v/ is with their Monster Girls.

>>378250234
He's not already on the chart? I'd say he deserves more than 40 though.

>>378250234
>Wesker at 40 deserved
Fuck no, that cunt did everything wrong

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>>378249748
Omochao
S:55
D:100

>>378241217
>Duck Hunt Dog laughs at you for your failures
>Steam has bad business practices

>>378250326
We can put Wesker where Flowey was at S60D100

Chartguy > ChartGuy2

>>378250147
Truth is: you or I could both be right. There is no real answer. I know what you mean too, in that one arc of Higurashi that doesn't have an anime or a manga, there is a separation of the two. Which is the original isn't clear though.

Eh, for now, that's just say they are separate. Umineko was a fucking mess at the end anyway.

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if S60 D100 is still open, could i suggest moving Magolor up and putting this fucker in his place? unless he's already somewhere else and i just missed him

>>378250234
Let's not just fit people randomly in just to fill blocks. Wesker deserves alot more.

Also, we don't HAVE to include everyone. We have plenty of RE characters already.

>>378250402
Okay yeah, that would be a lot more fitting.

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>>378249748
Would Peacock be a good fit for D: 35, S: 85?
>Got captured and used as a slave.
>Tormented daily by slave captors, only friend being Marie.
>Tried to escape but got caught and had her limbs cut off and eyes and teeth gouged out, leaving her for dead.
>Only got saved by a Doctor and got mutated into her current self today thanks to science.
>Same doctor who saved her whom she viewed as a dad dies thanks to Valentine and Double.
>Ends up having to fight off her own best friend from slavery because she is the current skull girl.

>Loud mouth and brash as hell.
>Rude to everyone she meets.
>Willingly slaughters entire Mecidi tower, even Cerebella whom genuinely thought that they were good guys because they saved her.

>>378250014
>>378250526
These would be good additions.

OP of the previous thread, thanks for taking over, dude.
>>378250403
Uh, thanks?

>>378250526
Actually I'm fine with that.

>>378241491
Make a new one about waifus
popularity vs merit

>>378250823
Switch X and Takeru,remove Adachi

>>378250917
I don't think any thread would have more shitposting than this.

>>378250917
>>378250962
The amount of shitposting would reach the sun and back twice.

>>378250823
Crono is in a really weird spot, maybe seek a replacement. Sorry but I don't have a suggestion.

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Lisa Trevor should be on here. High suffering with low deserved.

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>>378241217
>Deckard Cain
>Not Marius

Explain this

I really think Kaz Miller should be moved to one spot above The Burned Man.

>>378250305
She can stay, but fuck me those numbers are backwards.

Suffering:
>felt inferior to some other angels
>was killed with power of friendship

Deserved:
>didn't show up for Protag's ceremony at the start of the game
>slaughters an entire city and pins the blame on monsters
>tried to genocide everyone she didn't like
>betrayed both protag's parents
>lied to humans for a thousand of years
>a cunt
>yandere
>had a single moment at the end of the game where she says "I was lonely" and for once does something nice to the protag

>>378251178
Go play paradox. She does deserve more, though

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>>378250823
The Doctor
S:85 D:95

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>>378250947
I still vote to replace Adachi with her

>>378242084
>>378241217
>Jacket's Friend deserving ANY suffering
He literally dindu nuffin

>>378251262

I'm going to put him where Gabe is, because the doctor really wasn't suffering he was just a power hungry dick.

>>378251283
It's on the house, Anon.
You would've done the same for him, right?

>>378251261
Maybe she was redeemed in Paradox, but probably 90% of /v/ didn't play it.

>>378251283
go away Richard.

>>378251386
I guess you're right. The most suffering he got was a quick death.

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We got some more open spots.

>>378251428
>>378251390
But he LITERALLY did nothing wrong. In the game, he and Evan were the only ones that seemed to understand what chicken richard was trying to tell them

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>>378245886
Are we just going to ignore the fact that pikmin literally sing about how they are "born into suffereing and how there alright with that, even though they exist to be thrown around and eaten?" Go listen to AI no uta

>>378251556
I don't see any new open spots.

>>378251581

Who's getting moved and replaced then?

>>378251556
Are we going to move down to the 70s soon? Because I think the Administrator and RS bot need to be removed.

>>378251556
Again, suggesting >>378250014 for that spot at S70, D30.
Was forced to kill Russian mobsters to keep his sick mom from being murdered, beaten by Jacket, imprisoned and nearly assassinated, and when he finally thought he'd gotten out of Miami with his mom, they were both killed by a nuke.

Big Boss and Huey suffered the same? Fuck that son, move Big Boss higher up on the suffering list.

>Has to kill his mentor/mother figure
>Loses his base under attack and goes into a coma
>Tortured numerous times, losing an eye because of it at one point
>He and his team constantly under threat from Zero and the outside world
>Gets burned alive and basically turned into a vegetable
>Gets reconstructed and dies pretty soon afterward trying to make peace with his cloned son

Huey:
>Loses his legs
>Sent away from Mother Base for betraying MB.
>Son cucks him

>>378251704
I don't know friend. Pls just include them they deserve it :'(

>>378251573
Richard never appeared to Beard, actually. He never needed to. Beard wasn't killing out of anything but his duty as a soldier, and he lost most of his friends and got blown up for it.

>>378245886
Kazuya 75
Ignus 80

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>>378251556
Sniper
S:85/90
D:95

>>378251820
Not every video game character can get on this.

Still, I'll offer some help.

Kamakura Izuru can be replaced by Pikmin, as his suffering is SORT of similar to Chiaki's. I think they both deserve their places but if we wanna be nitpicky, we can keep Chiaki and replace Izuru with Pikmin. But that's just a possibility; I would vote against doing it.

>>378251812
>Huey
That's Otacon, anon.

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>>378251556
Get Marius on there already

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nFLYAHrxHQ0

>>378250962
>>378251017
Would be much more interesting than thinly veiled console wars threads at least.

We'd get good porn crops.

>>378251905
Thats what I mean, he wasnt a psychopath like the rest. He just wanted to relax. But Im talking about the scene at the start of HLM2 Hard Mode, where theyre all in the projector room and at the end Richard just says "Since none of you got it, lets go through it again and see if something clicks."

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>ridley gets 4 squares

>>378251704
S 75
D 55
Fat Guy
Yagrum Bagarn
Should have less both of these things

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>>378251265
Adachi stays

>>378251812
>muh boss
>muh outer haven

Fuck off.

>>378251980
What the fuck did The Scout do that warranted a 50 deserving?

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Alright we're gonna move on to the next row in a second.

>>378252073
>console wars
I don't see it.
>>378252201
On the chart? Sure.
AT THAT SPOT? Not a fucking chance in hell. Look at his coordinates. Doesn't fucking make sense.

>>378252201
>Adachifags

>>378252002
Well pikmin do certainly have a unique form of suffering: they're grown, plucked from the earth to service their master, and then defend him to the death. Failure means being eaten, and even though they suffer, they say it's worth it to help olimer go home

>>378252081
The projector scene wasn't even about that, Richard knew nothing would change. Pardo confused him, he acknowledged Evan couldn't save himself, he felt bad for Richter and Beard. He never intended to save anyone or change them, just remind them of the path they were on.
That said Beard deserves a fuckton less, I agree.

>>378252243
>Cocky asshole
>Steals heavy's sandwich
>Backcaps when people least expect it
>Always the one capping on Upward
>Bonks you then Cleavers you
>Annoying to deal with
>One of the classes who can't stop getting new weapons and hats

>>378252419
>Letting your pikmin die.
Come on senpai they deserve better.

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>>378252304
better Ryan

>>378241217
>Ragna deserving more suffering than Sol
>Ragna not suffering as much as Sol
>Adachi deserving that much suffering
>Lavos deserving any suffering at all
>Morgana not deserving more suffering
>Raiden deserving any suffering
These aside, well done lads.

>>378252304
What determines suffering? Because a bunch of those characters don't really match up, with some being dead, some being forced to watch everything they love burn, etc

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>>378251980
Push Rose above Madotsuki (S60, D0 to S70, D0), Rose's whole game has you killing her just to access new places so I'd say it's worse than Madotsuki.

>>378252506
swap Yagrum Bagarn with 2B

>>378252506
Never played NitW, someone give me a quick rundown on the animals.

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>>378241217
>kaz at max suffering
he had a hard life

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fucked up the numbers.

>>378252639
Good idea

>>378252506
From earlier.
>>378251749

>>378252684
What stays, what goes, what gets swapped?

This row only.

We can start a new thread also if someone wants to make it.

Who's at S:0 :D:100?

>>378252794
>New Thread
>317 replies and 69 images

>>378252854
Lavos

>>378252794
Adachi should be lower on the suffering scale at the very least. He should probably be a bit lower on the deserving scale as well, considering the scale of his crimes. Not a lot lower, but lower still.
>>378252854
Lavos it looks like.

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>>378252684
Replace the Administrator with Indrick Boreale of the Blood Ravens

there should only be one character per series (excluding spin offs). would prob make more people happy.

>>378253191
How about no

>>378253191
If anything it'd ignite even more of a firestorm.

>>378252621
I'd say its the percentage of how much their life is suffering. If they have enough good things happen to them it can outweigh the bad a bit.

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>>378241217
Are you going to add some labels like the /co/ one has, /v/?

>bottom left: Mascots League/Silent Protagonists
>bottom center: Annoying Companions
>top left: You Couldn't Save Them
>top right: >Did Nothing Wrong
>bottom right: Got Away With Everything

>>378253191
that's stupid and limits the choices even more

>>378253191
Most of the list we struggled to put together would be gone desu

>>378253191
Nah, people would argue for hours which character from their series should stay.

>>378252560
Replacing.

>>378253036
removed administrator, why does this character deserve her spot?

>>378252639
Why?

>>378253249
Maybe after we're finished but not before.

>>378252729
Nah, 2B needs to stay but Yagrum should be less deserving

>>378250823
Master Chief's previous placement was fine, whoever suggested the change is a huge retard
Arthas should be much lower when it comes to deserving (he was an arrogant cunt, but before he was corrupted™ by the frostmourne he did nothing wrong and his intentions were pure)
I don't think Nashandra suffered at all besides the fact that she was a shitty boss, her suffering rating is WAY too high

>>378253249
Why does Patrick deserve to suffer?

>>378242769
But he didn't really suffer.

>>378253358
Master chief literally has no problems with what he's doing and his past. You can't force your feelings onto him.

>>378253281
He suffered a fuck ton because he lives in the grimdark future of the 41st millennium, became a meme everyone laughed at, is the embarrassment of his entire Chapter, and he probably had his skull removed by one of the opposing leaders.

He deserved it because he's a retard.

>>378253364
His intelligence somehow decreased a lot more to the point where he's practically a sociopath who ruins everything and gets away with it
He's kinda like an underwater CWC in how arrogant, stupid, and childish he is during the later seasons.
Stuff like how he tried to burn Gary alive with a flamethrower and starved him to near death

>>378241217

How exactly did Yuri from Red Alert suffer outside of getting his shit rightfully slapped in YR?

>>378253281
For boreale
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6M-5dAmidhA

For 2B/Yagrum
Yagrum didn't do nothing wrong, i have no fucking clue why he is in this spot, however he does suffer from an incurable disease
As for 2B...
She is an assassin who kills the man she loves, then memory wipes him and "redeploys" him..constantly, this is also the source of her agony