Just beat The Last of Us Wow, Joel is the biggest fucking retard

>>378187016

Nothing assured him they would find a cure killing Ellie. In fact, Ellie was not the first inmune person they killed searching the cure.

They would not find a cure, ellie was not the first immune human they found and each one died with little to no advances on the cure.
geez

>>378187016
Anon, let's assume the Fireflies found a cure, what then?

No seriously, what?

>>378187456
Cure gets distributed, society is free of the plague, military can go all out exterminating infected and society can begin to rebuild

>>378187307
>>378187361
>>378187456
Completely missed the point of the ending. Nice projection though.

>>378187518
>Cure gets distributed

How? The Fireflies are not only deep behind Infected lines, they're bonafide terrorists.

>>378187518
Distributed how?

they had no idea whether or not they'd find a cure, and even if they did, humanity has fallen so far that it's not worth saving, examples being the hunters in pittsburgh

>>378187016
They had little evidence the cure would work. The world is pretty fucked at that point.

>>378187518
You're an idiot

>>378187603
If they have the ability to synthesize a cure then they definitely have the ability to make large amounts of it

>>378187581
Your implying an army of immune soldiers couldn't defeat an army of those susceptible to infection

>>378187016
Humanity isn't worth saving. Way to miss the whole fucking point.

>>378187770
>Your implying an army of immune soldiers couldn't defeat an army of those susceptible to infection

They... Can't?

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>>378187016

>I mean, is the cost of ONE for BILLIONS really not matter to him?

I would murder a billion people right now for Ellie.

If you ever become a father, however unlikely, then you'll understand.

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>>378187770

>>378187518
>military
There's like no Militiary left, you don't see one soldier from Bills Town all the way to Utah

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>>378187016
The sole reason she was immune was because the fungus grew inside her brain in just the specific means as to render herself immune and the fungus benign. You could cut out her brain and try to reverse engineer that sure, but it's extremely unlikely you could recreate it in another host without killing the new host.

No instead the better thing to do would be to allow Ellie to reproduce and hope that the same genetics that forced the fungus to grow in that way would pass to future generations.

but lol no fuck that ellie is a lesbian now haha

>>378188120
Was she actually a lesbian or just bicurious with that one girl?

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>>378187016
>think everything will be okay since Ellie will have children and pass down her immunity
>evolution will overcome
>turns out Ellie is a dyke

>>378188120
Anon.... what if I told you she DOES have a baby in part 2?

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>>378187016
There was no guarantee to a cure. And after everything they went through, what makes you think the Human race is worth saving?

>We'll kill Ellie with outdated technology for literally no reason because, even though we've made NO progress so far, it's important we waste more lives for much pride Joel
>I'm a big guy in cutscenes Joel
>oh fuck Joel don't kill me oh god everyone's dead
Fuck fireflies and their airsoft tier forces, humanity was meant to die

>>378187016
>billions

More like the few people still left in the world. Probably at the thousands.
Also the whole point of the game is to show you that the humans at that point in time are not worth saving, especially not if he needed to sacrifice Ellie's life who was ready to do it herself.
Hence the title of the game.

>>378187456
I mean survivor casualty rates would go down extraordinary right? Rist of getting infected from the clouds and bites wuld be sn on-issue. Only threats now would be getting eaten alive or shot by assholes.

>>378187016
But that's what makes the ending so perfect. The whole thing through you see him as an honorable and loyal man who just wants to help. Along the way you learn he used to be just like those raiding groups that attacks and kills people and he did it as a type of revenge for Sara's death. Then with the ending he could do the right thing and hope that sacrificing Ellie's life will lead to a cure.
But he shows he's got just as much flaws as anyone else, he lies right to her face so he can have a father daughter relationship again.

I be live that in Part 2 the fireflys catch up to them and Joel dies in the battle. Ellie goes on a revenge rampage to kill each and every firefly while seeing an imaginary Joel along the way until finally learning that he lied to her and why then fake Joel vanishes.

Why do you think the Fireflies could have actually developed a cure from Ellie?

>HURR BC THEY TOLD ME DURR

You're literally a retarded child. Their big master plan is to kill the one hope humanity has by digging around in her brain in the hope that they might find a cure. It's a fucking terrible plan, and if you wanted to go along with it you are the stupidest little boy in school.

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>>378187841
This.

>those lips

>>378188243

She was written with her being gay in mind, but I'm still in the bi camp. Maybe we'll find out in tlou2

>>378188243
Naughty Dog confirmed it on their twitter and made show of how inclusive they were towards the LGBT community.

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Everyone in this thread is so retarded, it doesn't matter whether or not the cure would be successful or not, the ending was showcasing Joel's personality after the trauma of losing his daughter, the only reason he saved Ellie was cause for him to fit his anti-hero archetype

>>378187307
Where is the proofs that they killed other immune people, I know the cure wasn't a sure thing with killing Ellie but if they genuinely killed other people like her trying then it's all the more reason he made the right choice.

>>378188247
This.
Anyone who is immune should be fucking like rabbits.
Worst case, non-immune partners get infected, but that's not even that bad on the whole.

Last of Us is severely overrated by everywhere but /v/.
But Last of Us is underrated by /v/.

I'm personally fine with cinematic games as long as they're entertaining.
Come at me.

Such a shallow game. The fact it is discussed seriously here on /v/ proves how far we've fallen.

>>378189137
Even if it was a bit cinematic it had a great story, atmosphere, and setting. Loved the gameplay when it got really brutal. Eagerly await the second.

>>378188925
There's an audio tape or journal you can find in the hospital where a doctor laments another carrier dead and no progress made toward a cure.

>>378189010
No. Anyone who fucks her would get infected

>>378189010
>>378189318
Yeah, she's more of a carrier than an immunity.

>>378187551
Have you been refreshing the thread this long waiting for your (you)?

>>378189137

I agree. There's room in the market for both cinematic and non-cinematic games. If you don't like cinematic games then don't play them and move on. Unless you're on /v/, then carry on bitching about it like everything else.

>>378187456
due to them being a bunch of incompetent morons that treat the military as enemies and any other surviving groups refuse to be controlled? either they'd dominate everyone else by using infected as biological weapons/shields knowing they would probably be fine so long as they aren't ripped to shreds (since that could still easily happen to them)

or

everyone starts fighting for the cure, causing society to break down even further.

>>378187979
boston is still under military protection, but every other location visited wasn't because they were either defeated and wiped out/retreated, or they were never there at all.

>>378189318
I guess if you wanted to knock someone up the traditional way that would be a problem.

>>378187016
I probably would have done the same.

>>378187551
Autism

Just a reminder that the Fireflies didn't even give Joel his guns

>>378188925
>proofs
You realize that if you're not posting the chicken, you're just being an illiterate retard, right?

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1.) There is no guarantee it would solve the problem
2.) Why should he care about a world of people he doesn't know or like?
3.) Why would a man that has been through hell let his daughter die a second time for no other reason than pure altruism?

Have any of you people ever loved a person? If it meant saving mine I'd let all of you die without a second thought. I can't imagine someone truthfully answering otherwise.

>>378190497
>Have any of you people ever loved a person?
Nobody ever loved me

>>378190687
/v/ - Permanent Solution to a Temporary Problem

>>378187841
>>378188783
thirsty beta cucks

>>378188120
>No instead the better thing to do would be to allow Ellie to reproduce and hope that the same genetics that forced the fungus to grow in that way would pass to future generations.
That would take fucking decades. By then humanity would be extinct.

>>378190937
This.
Ellie's not hot enough.
Come on folks.

My theories for part 2

>Ellie has had a baby
>The fireflies take it because they're still looking for a cure
>The objective of the game is to get it back, or just kill the fireflies if they kill it
>We learn more about Ellie's backstory. Shannon Woodward (I think) plays Ellie's mother in a flashback
>Joel is still alive, but will die somewhere in the game

>>378189307
No, there isn't. This is brought up in literally every thread about this game, and no one ever points out where this audio tape is or what it actually says. Ellie is the only person they had that even came close, so she was the very first and only subject the had to work with with a real chance of making a cure.

The entire point of the ending is that Joel chose to save Ellie and lie to her because she, just one person, mattered to him more than the fate of the world.

>>378191193
>Ellie has had a baby
I like this, it gives Ellie a reason to just go mental and lose herself by the end. Im not expecting a happy ending for Ellie. Also i still think Joel is dead by the time the game begins and shes just hallucinating.

>>378188925
Let me guess you never listened to the audiotapes through out the game.

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So why is Joel like 50 but still has a full head of hair? Would the game had been as well received if they would have made a realistic creepy middle aged man taking care of a 12 year old instead of the calvin kline model Joel?

The Fireflies don't have any idea on if this would work, and it kills an immune person.

They have no means of production or distribution.

They'd use it for political means if they even got it.

A vaccine won't even help the world that much. It's not a cure. How many times would people honestly be bitten by infected and just survive, no problem? Like if you're in a swarm they will disembowel you. Or you have a fucking moldy corpse biting you in a horribly dirty environment with a lack of medical supplies, meaning guaranteed terrible infections.

>>378191197

I agree the ending has to do more with Joel's decision to lie to Ellie but just because shes immune doesnt mean she was the cure, you have to take into account the experience Joel went through and he probably deduced the Fireflies werent going to be able to find a cure/are not the right group of people to have it. He probably figured theres more people like Ellie out there and he chose to save her instead of losing another daughter

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>>378191814
>implying it wouldn't make the game 10x better

>>378191814
Because Joel is a fucking fit and handsome country boy

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The only fucking retard is you, and every other moron who makes these threads. Not only was it not proven they could actually make a vaccine, you can't stop a fungal infection with a vaccination anyway. Not to mention that they would have to manufacture and distribute millions, across a country still filled with marauders, rapists, cannibals, and mutant mushroom zombies. It was hard enough to travel with a teenage girl, what are they gonna do? Travel around with hundreds of crates? The world is fucked, preventing the sickness won't bring food back, or fix the atrocities everyones committed over the past 20 years. The settlement was just fine, it had energy, walls, and defense with renewable food and energy. Wasting Ellies life, when theres the chance she could breed in the future and make immune children, is a classic example of "a bird in the hand is worth two in the bush".

Joel literally did nothing wrong.

How is Joel so handsome?

>>378187016
Fucking this >>378188883 people make weird decisions for personal reasons all the time. It's really easy for us to be rational when we are watching situations from afar but the moment a person becomes invested they wind up deviating.

Armchair-philosophers will dream up perfect solutions perfect solutions all the time because they themselves don't actually do anything. It's sort of why armchair-philosophers and all their answers are completely useless.

>>378187016
Joel lied to Ellie, but I think that in the sequel we will find out that what Joel said wasn't actually a lie, and that there are other people out there, and that the Fireflies murdered them all for nothing. Pointless sacrifices. Turns out Joel thought he was lying to her and he ended up being right. I believe that is what Ellie is referring to in the Last of Us two trailer. This is speculation but it has a decent chance of being right considering what we know now. Especially if the Theseus connection is real.
The Fireflies deserve death for not giving the man his FUCKING GUNS in the first place. They got what was coming to them. Total morons. If Marlene handled that situation in a more tactful way she may not have ended up shot. People are scumbags.

>can't get a brain biopsy without killing the patient
>can make cure and enough of it to cure millions
Pick one

>>378187823
this

when will Fathercore stop

>>378192428
THIS please stop making these threads

>>378192428
Thank you. You faggots need to quit. This thread always ends the same.

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>>378192578
>tfw you'll never look this good in your 50s
>tfw you'll never look this good ever

>>378187016
>I mean, is the cost of ONE for BILLIONS really not matter to him?
Yes, the entire game builds the relationship between him and Ellie and hits you over the head that she has become a surrogate daughter to him and he couldn't possibly lose a kid again if he could help it.
I don't know why people expected cold computer logic out of a game that writes people like they're actually people.

>>378191814
some men actually keep their hair forever

stew on that, baldcuck

>>378187307
This is a myth. There are no audio logs or tapes that indicate that sequence of events happened. It always pops up in these conversations, and it is false. The Fireflies are incapable of working a cure out anyway, and even if they did, they would use it as a weapon of leverage to take control of the world.
>>378187770
They would be murdered by a pack of idiots in a heart beat, and they would probably leave the cure because to them it served zero purpose.

I don't think whether or not the cure would work and all that sort of plot contrivance type stuff is meant to have occurred to Joel.
I think his decision was purely based on muh daughter thinking.

>>378187016
Oh shut the fuck up like you give a single fuck about billions of others. You'd murder any of those billions to save your own mother's life you bitch face.

Do you think Joel got a gf in those 5 years between 1 and 2?

>>378191814
Unattractive people are for comedy or supporting characters. Leads should be good looking.

>>378193028
>I don't know why people expected cold computer logic out of a game that writes people like they're actually people.
Maybe because you're introduced to Joel like he's cold and calculating? He killed that one guy at the beginning of the game for fucking him over, and the dude was defenseless begging for his life.

>>378193316
Probably not or he banged his daughterfu

>>378193316
Yeah her name is Ellie :^)
>>378193360
Yes, that's how he's introduced. His character develops and he warms up to Ellie over time while initially looking at her like she's just another job that he's finishing out of a favour to Tess.

>>378188636
Ellie knew that Joel was lying to her in the end.

>>378188120
Hmm, I thought that the fungus in her had mutated so as to to be a weaker/less effective version of itself, which lead to her developing an immunity. Similar to how real life immunizations use weaker versions of the real thing so as to allow people to develop an immunity.

>>378188120

>but lol no fuck that ellie is a lesbian now haha

>TLoU 2
>mission objective: find porn and a turkey baster

>tfw no Tess

>Ellie saves Joel's life from his gut wound
>Joel than saves hers from David the cannibal pedophile
lol why dint he let dem cut her brane out

>>378193702
Are you guys all retarded? How could most of you miss the point of the story?

First of all Ellie KNEW Joel lied to her because shes not a fucking retard. Thats part of why the ending is so fucking great. She accepts Joel's lie is because she cares for him, and Joel knows it too. They both accept the lie so they can be together.

And stop mentioning the audiologs. The story loses all meaning if you believe that they couldn't implement the cure. Joel fucked over humanity but you completely understand why he did it at the end.

>>378194429
didn't mean to reply to that post.

>>378194429
I didn't read Ellie's expression at the end as acceptance. She seemed very conflicted, to me.
Otherwise I mostly agree. It seems that a lot of /v/ aren't very practised in recognising themes and character arcs.

>in the sequel

I hope you meant in the final conversation before the ending. You're not autistic are you OP?

>>378189250
>Nintenbaby still mad after all these years
Sad!

>>378189456
THIS

the fireflies are incompetent morons that fail at everything they do in the game, even if they had the cure they would fuck it up

How would they mass produce the cure?

why did they have to do a TLoU 2?

the ending to 1 was PERFECT

>>378192428
>Ellie
>breeding

you are aware that they made her a lesbian, right

>>378187016
Itt we pretend this game is good

>>378195485
Sold a bazillion copies and hyperbolic reviewers called it game of the generation just because it had unusually strong character writing for videogames.

>>378191143
Is she lesbo hot though?

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>game is actually being discussed without shitposting
If only /v/ was this good for games I actually like. Keep up the good work anons.

>>378195563
No they didn't, they just revealed that she kissed her female friend when she was a confused 13 year old that couldn't process complex feelings.
If you're talking about the concept art that got revealed, she doesn't even look all that different from a character like Tess.

>>378195684
Lesbian here

Ellie is fucking gorgeous

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>>378193021

>>378195621
The game is great.

>>378195485
I agree. They should have left the characters of the first game alone at least. I'd be fine with another game in that setting, but I'd rather they let the story of the first game stand alone.

>>378195368
>Like 50 with machine guns are killed by an elderly man

Fireflies got what they deserved

I imagine Ellie would be very smelly

>>378195621
I liked the combat, shame there are too many sections of ladder lifting and chain pulling. Id have liked a multiplayer wave survival mode or something, so I could actually get right to the combat.

>>378198661
>too many sections of ladder lifting and chain pulling
The fuck are you even talking about, there's like three or four of them. The 'chain pulling' bits aren't even sections, it's just a way to get through a door. If you thought they were meant to be a puzzle you might be a simpleton.

>>378198916
>The fuck are you even talking about, there's like three or four of them
For each one of those sections there is 10 minutes of walking around scenery listening to the characters talk, its why people call it a movie and not a game, yes, its fine first time around, on replaying the game you are just trying to get past it and get to the gameplay. And no, I didnt say they were a puzzle of any sort, I dont know where you got that, they werent even puzzles, the ladder was on the ground over there in plain sight and you had to pick it up and walk over here with it, thats not a puzzle.

Im saying that on replaying the game I want to get past that shit and get to the fun parts. The combat is actually good but there is no way to get right too it.

>>378199831
That's actually what made the game good.

Unlike Uncharted where there are constantly enemies to fight when you just want to progress with the story.

You actually had the time to take in the atmosphere. And it gave more weight to encounters by having them not being frequent.

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>fungus takes control innocent peoples brains to propagate themselves for their own survival
>fireflies want to take control of innocent person's brain to stop fungus for their own survival
>cannibals want to eat innocent people's brains for their own benefit
>Joel stops being a bandit puts his own survival beneath that of someone else, rising above the self preservation instinct and going back to being a real human bean he hasn't been since he didn't protect his daughter

Pottery

>>378200103
Dont get me wrong, I liked the game, that is perfectly fine the first time around, but on replaying it I want to skip that stuff, which is why I wanted some kind of wave survival mode, anything that lets me get right to the combat. People never talk about how the game plays in terms of combat and always talk about the story, the combat is really satisfying.

>>378200103
This.

Also going around the levels looking for secrets, artifacts, ammo, scrap, medicine. I pretty much looked in every little spot in the game to see what I can find

>nu/v/ likes cinematic movies

Well, I knew this place would get swarmed by reddit some day...I didn't know it would be this soon...Oh well, guess it's a sign to leave this shithole.

>>378200552
See you tomorrow

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>>378196123
>autist actually believe this

>>378187016
Joel might not have the moral high ground on that one, but I am with him.
Fuck fireflies, incompetent bastards.

>>378195368
>Fireflies accidentally drive themselves out of their own base
>Forced to flee several states away and nearly all die in the process
>We can totally manufacture a cure and get it to everyone! Now gimme that brain gurrrrl

>>378191197
.....you can literally look it up on youtube. I've played it myself. The doctors have tried and failed multiple times with other immunes

>>378200824
>you can literally look it up
>but i'm totally not gonna look it up though
faggot is horrible at telling lies.

I legitimately want to know why anyone would like this """""game""""? There is basically 70% walking sections, shallow stealth sections, generic crafting, pretentious not-so-groundbreaking story.

I guess the good things about this were the graphics and voice acting...But that's pretty much about it. Multiplayer was also great, but not it's saving grace. Why can't ND just continue to make real games? Crash, Jak, hell even Uncharted...Now it's being run by some sjw who, like kojima, want to so badly make real movies but has to settle with what they are. After completing this game, I genuinely see no difference, mechanically between this and The Order...One is just shorter than the other.

While I agree that a cure wouldn't do shit after society has completely collapsed, I do agree that Joel's actions serve exclusively to show that he's not a good guy, though good is pretty subjective in a setting like TLOU. He knew what he wanted and he did it regardless of the consequences to anyone else. Fireflies were cunts, but so is Joel.

>>378201221
Good delivery and it's fun. Don't think it's the "best game ever" that people are hailing it to be but it's a nice way to be told a story.

>>378201221
I liked the combat, the story, the characters, soundtrack, the world and environments and even the multiplayer was great

>>378201237
The only difference is that Joel's goal is to protect someone else, albeit for his own happiness. Every other group, except for the forest colony (which they return to at the end) is operating out of self preservation.

>>378187849
Atleast someone in here isn't a teen

>>378187016
You're the fucking dumbass, what the fuck would a cure do? Wow, now you won't turn into a spore zombie, but the actual zombies will still rip you apart, oh and most of humanity is shitty and evil and will probably steal the cure the first chance they get

>>378201471
>combat

what combat?

>story

>muh hope
>muh ellie
>muh love

nah

> soundtrack

Literally the only memorable track is the mediocre theme. I bet you'll argue this one.

> the world and environments

Again, nice scenery, but not in a safari, I'm in a game....

> even the multiplayer was great
Probably the only sane response.

>>378187016
>>378187016
you can choose to leave ellie behind. get over it.

>>378201793
I told you why I liked it, I'm not here to convince you to like it

>>378187016
The needs of the many don't outweight the needs of the one.

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You losers are all talking about if the vaccine would or wouldn't work, distribution, how to get the cure and so on.

But the real and most important reason is that without Ellie, Joel is alone. Her life and his love for her is more important to him than the future of humanity. It's not like he'll see it.

He's selfish. But who isn't? Out of all of the selfish things we see people do in this game, is his any worse?

>>378201221
I really like the stealth and combat mechanics. It's basic, but sue me, I like how the world looks.

>>378201793
>personal opinions
>personal opinions
>hurr durr
>more personal opinions
u must be fucking retarded.

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>Implying you would let Ellie die after this

>>378202062
>1.78 MB
>You losers are all talking about if the vaccine would or wouldn't work, distribution, how to get the cure and so on.
Blame faggot OP, he started this all 'smart and utilitarian' bullshit.

>>378187016
Because the greater good is a retarded meme.

>>378200824
You're referring to this:
>April 28th. Marlene was right. The girl's infection is like nothing I've ever seen. The cause of her immunity is uncertain. As we've seen in all past cases, the antigenic titers of the patient's Cordyceps remain high in both the serum and the cerebrospinal fluid. Blood cultures taken from the patient rapidly grow Cordyceps in fungal-media in the lab... however white blood cell lines, including percentages and absolute-counts, are completely normal. There is no elevation of pro-inflammatory cytokines, and an MRI of the brain shows no evidence of fungal-growth in the limbic regions, which would normally accompany the prodrome of aggression in infected patients. We must find a way to replicate this state under laboratory conditions. We're about to hit a milestone in human history equal to the discovery of penicillin. After years of wandering in circles, we're about to come home, make a difference, and bring the human race back into control of its own destiny. All of our sacrifices and the hundreds of men and women who've bled for this cause, or worse, will not be in vain.
However, this doesn't say anything about more immune patients. And even if it did Joel only found this after he started killing everyone anyway.

>>378202236
To be fair they tried to kill him first.

>>378188243
anita owns naughty dog she defiantly lesbian for feminism's sake

>>378202236
>as we've seen in all past cases
did you read what you posted or are you memeing me at this point? it literally sais theyve had prior immune test subjects right there.

I really hope TLoU 2 has a bit more of a horror focus and deals more with the Clickers
God knows one of the things I didn't dig about the first was the fact that humanity was supposedly on the brink and you then proceed to spend the whole game killing hundreds of people.

>>378201221
The story isn't pretentious at all you stupid fuck. It's a simplistic character drama that's built on hollywood zombie cliches. Fucking idiot. I think what you mean by "pretentious" is that it's aiming to have some emotional resonance, which it did for almost everyone.

>>378201221
This post needs more memes and buzzwords crammed in, 85% isn't enough.

>>378202352
He's establishing what the past cases have been like and how Ellie's is similar except she has an immunity to the impact. It says right at the start "THE GIRL'S INFECTION IS LIKE NOTHING I'VE EVER SEEN."

>>378202459
>i cant read and never passed basic grammar skills class.

>>378187016
Thats the point.

Joel is incredibly selfish and obsesses over Ellie because she is the replacement for his dead daughter.

That is his ultimate character flaw. Hes not retarded, he is just a broken man who will lose everything all over again if Ellie dies.

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>>378191814
>he thinks every man become bald past 50

enjoy your shitty genetics

>>378187016
Are people still seriously trolling about this? Any non retarded person would have found all the audio logs in the hospital by now and found out that they tried on previous immune people and just killed them, never made the cure. Oh fuck it evermind, kys.

>>378202530
> Blood cultures taken from the patient rapidly grow Cordyceps in fungal-media in the lab... however white blood cell lines, including percentages and absolute-counts, are completely normal. There is no elevation of pro-inflammatory cytokines, and an MRI of the brain shows no evidence of fungal-growth in the limbic regions, which would normally accompany the prodrome of aggression in infected patients.

Look, Anon, it's right here. He's saying although she's infected she doesn't suffer the consequences in the way that usual cases do.

>>378202661
oh i get it now, thanks buddy. youre a swell guy.

I platinumed TLOU, literally none of you know more about it than me

>>378202374
>The story isn't pretentious at all

>muh giraff scene
>joel pretending that she is his daughter
>scene where the bitch causes a fit because muh "safe with you"


Fuck off. This movie is as pretentious as your annual oscar bait. It tries to be something when it's not. Goes so deep it gets comical at some points. Kill yourself, Cuckmann.

>>378187016
>I mean, is the cost of ONE for BILLIONS really not matter to him?
There are no billions anon.
They died when the infection spread worldwide.
There's few million alive globally, maybe much less.

Also sacrificing someone close for the vague possibility of saving maybe some random strangers isn't something normal human would do.
You seem to lack empathy to a large degree if you can't understand that and Joel's motivation.
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>>378202906
It tries to be a character drama with flawed characters who struggle to deal with what's going on in the game emotionally. How doesn't it accomplish that? It's a simplistic fucking character drama, my dude, it's one of the least pretentious highly regarded stories in videogames ever written. It's about a guy who feels sad because his daughter died and the themes are understated and never told to you outright.

>drag ladder to spot
>walking and talking, literally entire episodes of walking and talking
>bugged stealth mechanics
>barebones survival elements
>repetitive takedown animations
>shit gunplay
>shit cover mechanics
>AI companion is invincible and never gets discovered by anyone and it's only there because muh daughter feels
>heavily scripted intro where a child dies so we feel sorry for the fucking unlikable loser of a protagonist
>plot is literally Children of Men
Kill yourselves sony niggers

>>378203117
Also to add to this, the themes are not original or ambitious at all, it's standard zombie fare to imply the humans are the real zombies or whatever. It's not pretentious to do what everyone else does. Holy fuck.

>>378203154
>grapes were sour anyway
Just wait a decade or two for EMULATORS my fellow MUSTARD RACER.

>>378203154
>bugged stealth mechanics
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOWW CAAAAWMAAAAAN DOOOOD!

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>>378203154
I can tell 100% that you have not played the game and are basing what you know on /v/. Reflect on how much of a faggot you are. Im not even going to defend the game, but you embody everything that is wrong with here, just repeat what someone else said and /v/ is the final word on what you like and dislike, you do not have your own opinions, /v/ comes up with them for you.

>>378203261
>le never ever
Every time, the only defense this turd has.
>>378203270
They are bugged and really fucked, cover based stealth systems are cancer

>>378203353
>some sony pony unironically think his zombie movie is flawless and liked by everyone or they haven't played it
Impressive logic

Now that other anon confused me. Were there other immune people that the fireflies killed?

>>378203520
No. See:
>>378202236
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>>378202708

It's not really a bad end, the fact that one person even became immune means humanity is gonna be ok. Evolution bro, more immune people will show up over generations.

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>All these edgy egoist-individualist faggots who would gladly doom all of Humanity

Thank fuck us collectivists are holding our species together.

>>378203819
Not necessarily because the world is shown to be falling apart more over time. Tonnes of military zones have been shut down, resources are scarce, etc. It's framed this way to actually make it an interesting dilemma. There are not other immune people and this might be the last hope everyone has, and Joel wasted it.

>>378203520
Maybe, maybe not. The point is the Fireflies were stupid and likely dumb as well. They're doomed to fail no matter what they do.

You now realized Ellie probably had to “clean” Joel while he was recovering

>>378188243
No they shoehorned her being lesbian to appeal to the LGBT group.

>>378203445
Alot of implications there, where did I say it was flawless? Again, you havent played it and are basing your entire opinion on that of anonymous people who hate literally everything. One day youll understand why this is stupid, but its not today it seems.

>>378188247
So this is what parent's think of their gay kids at first.

>>378204114
LOL look at this faggot desperately trying to convince himself he played a different game without all that drag ladder to spot and walking and talking filler, guess what, dipshit, if you're not invested in the dialogues the game is shit.

>>378187016
I think, Naughty Dog should have given the player the choice, what Joel will do at this point save Ellie, or sacrifice her for the many

>>378204210
Not him. What's wrong with that? It's a character drama. Puzzle games are shit if you're not into puzzles too.

>>378204309
Why do you think that? How would that have improved the game?

>>378204310
>it's a character drama
I had bought a video game, and an incredibly praised one at that, the characters fell flat and the overall experience was average.
Maybe if I'd gotten into its plot it'd have been a worthwhile experience but that wasn't the case, maybe I'm too cynical or maybe the game really is a melodramatic and tonal mess that tries to pull at your heartstrings desperately since that's what I thought of it.

>>378204376
by giving the player at least one choice, and not be a linear wannabe movie game

to be fair, haven't played the game, only spoilered myself the story
but don't worry anon, I think I will at least watch a let's play of it, sometimes, in the future

>>378202236
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>>378203589
someone screencap this so we dont have to have this long drawn out discussion every time retards try to make shit up

>>378195709
Why did rap get into the lOl So wACkY shit?

>>378203958
Fun fact, the fireflies are responsible for all the military safe zones being shut down. There's a whole sub plot through notes in the Pittsburg level about how the Fireflies came in and started a riot against the military and destabilized the area. They been doing it throughout the entire country, they were trying to do it in the beginning with Boston and got their asses kicked. I don't know why they are considered the "good" guys.

>>378204425
>I had bought a video game, and an incredibly praised one at that, the characters fell flat and the overall experience was average.
That's a shame, but I loved it and so did a lot of other people. It was a genuinely emotionally resonant for most people who played the game.
>>378204569
I don't think undercutting the entire story is worth it for shoehorning one choice into the end though. Some choices throughout the game might've been fine, but the end needs to be the way it is or the foreshadowing doesn't work.

>>378204309
Personally I'm glad this story was entirely set in stone. CHOOSE is fuckin never well-implemented and I'd rather experience a thoughtful narrative than some choose your adventure bullshit anyways.

>>378204859
>thoughtful narrative
>here take this girl from point A to point B
>here make this girl save your life
>do you care now, do you CARE now?
>well, he does, and he says fuck humanity, do you CARE now?
>thoughtful

So even if a cure was made, what exactly would they do about the millions of clickers still roaming around and the crazy psychos? Was the cure supposed to automatically get rid of them as well?

>socially autistic edgelords cant wrap their heads around human emotion

>>378204425
Or youre desprately trying to dislike something that most people only have a passing like for, you act like someone saying "I like the game" means "THIS IS THE BEST THING EVER" when it just means they liked the game.

>>378205012
>desperately trying to dislike something
How do I desperately try to dislike something? I wanted to like the GOTY 2013, bought the thing for my ps3 and turns out it was a mediocre experience, sorry for not giving a fuck about Children of Men twice.

I'll wait for the PC port.

I hated the game but I thought it had a few ingredients with potential, specifically the inventory and crafting systems. That's about it, there's nothing else that stuck with me. I didn't find the characters or story even remotely compelling so I really dont give a shit either way about the ending.

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>Put Jaks goggles on Ellie
>Game turns into a cross country adventure between an autistic girl and a man in a mid life crisis

>>378205107
One day I'm going to watch that movie so I can respond to these posts properly. I watched The Road and faggots were lying that it's exactly the same as The Last of Us, too.

>>378205363
The film takes place in 2027, where two decades of human infertility have left society on the brink of collapse. Illegal immigrants seek sanctuary in the United Kingdom, where the last functioning government imposes oppressive immigration laws on refugees. Owen plays civil servant Theo Faron, who must help a refugee (Clare-Hope Ashitey) escape the chaos.

>>378205012
Not that guy, but there are a lot of people who praise the experience of playing this game as a fucking masterpiece of a game, just because it has excellent production values and good acting but the narrative itself is nothing neither new nor groundbreaking, or even done in a novel or different way to other post-apocalyptic media. And in terms of game mechanics and systems, it's also not innovating anything, it's a pretty standard third person shooter with simplistic environmental "puzzles", if they could be referred to as that. I can totally see someone who doesn't play a lot of video games and people who play games for the story seeing this game and thinking it's just awesome.

>>378205446
Plot is pretty much irrelevant in The Last of Us, so that doesn't really tellme anything. If the plot was important nobody would be able to look past the outrageous cliches.

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>>378205606
>the plot is pretty much irrelevant in The Last of Us
The plot is the reason why it got praised, its gameplay is mediocre.

>>378205470
What other mainstream feminist critiques of toxic masculinity zombie games/movies are there?

>>378205691
Plot =/= story. It's a story about characters and their emotional turmoil, which is why it's a character drama. Nobody cares about how it has to contrive a reason to pad out the plot because the character drama is what matters. It's literally "your princess is in another castle" except you replace the platforming with character development.

If Neil Druckmann had decided to make a CG film called The Last of Us instead of a game, we would've lost absolutely nothing of importance. Same thing with Uncharted. Those games would make fun movies.

>>378205984
It wouldn't have worked because it plays with perspective which is more difficult to do in film, and The Last of Us is also sixteen hours and it creates an emotional connection by allowing you to grow mechanically with your partner as well as just spending a lot of time with them. You could condense it, but not successfully into a reasonable film length.

>>378205984
Nope, part of why people like it is because of the gameplay
>le “gameplay” xD

Yeah yeah we get it stop trying to fit in

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>>378205824
>it's literally "your princess is in another castle" except you replace the gameplay with character development

>>378206104
It would fit better into a miniseries, but if you're a halfways decent writer, you could perfectly transplant that to a mini series just fine.

>>378205295

kek

>>378206145
>the gameplay
Yeah I remember it vividly
I was playing this game and then the game said "drag ladder to spot" and suddenly I cared about some autistic tomboy and her surrogate notdad
The best part about the last of us is how it's a serious and deep and mature story about zombies, so I don't need to feel ashamed when I say that video games are my hobby.

>>378205470
Dont underestimate normies. Normies outnumber people who play games alot, they found this game digestible and pushed it as something amazing because of its themes and accessibility, the same way people push shit like Walking Dead, its not actually that good but because of its themes(character drama and survival) and accessibility ("zombies" for a time the most popular thing in media) its appreciated by the vast majority of people.
If the game came out now I would guarantee it wouldnt be met with the reception it was, it is incredibly average gameplay, with decent writing in a setting that is done to death, think back to when this was released, it was before zombie fatigue had kicked in and everyone loved that setting. That said, the game isnt bad, its just not 10/10 across the board, that was the result of the times, it was around then that games started to become alot more mainstream and this was the result of something that was highly sought after by general audiences zombies and serious drama.

TLDR Last of Us was a product of its time, its reviews dont hold up, but its not a bad game at all.

>>378206289
A mini series would work better, but it would get outshined by better ones. It's a good fit for videogames in that way, simple and effective character dramas is exactly what this medium needs. Videogame writing isn't advanced enough to have ambitious stories that aren't pretentious.

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>playing TLoU on survivor
>mfw Hotel Basement level

>>378206348
>TLDR Last of Us was a product of its time, its reviews dont hold up

Are you serious? Almost 4 years later and people are still talking about it, that's rare for games these days

>>378206818
Because theres a sequel around the corner. Noone use to talk about Crash games but since the remake is coming out there are frequent threads.

>>378206938
Before the remasters were announced people were begging for Crash to come out. That's the whole reason the remasters got made in the first place

>>378187016
shit game

>zombies and everyone else ignores Ellie and does not attack her at all
>Ellie is literally invulnerable
>muh must force the player to kill doctors, so that she isn't "killed"
really makes you think

>>378207502
What does it make you think about?

>>378207197
I mean even if this is your actual opinion and not just bait I still have to give you a 1/10 for effort. Please try harder.

>>378187016
>he actually thinks a group of terrorists in a post apocalyptic world had the capacity to manufacture and distribute the cure even if they somehow managed to get it from Ellie's corpse, unlike the other people they killed

>>378207545
That Politically Correct dogs are a bunch of hacks and wanna-be movie directors, who wrote a shitty generic zombie plot, then couldn't make the AI work properly and instead of saying "fuck it" to the plot, they said "fuck it" to the so called "gameplay", despite that change ruining any immersion the "game" ever had and also making the so called "shocking" ending not making any sense.

>>378202359
Oh yeah I loved sneaking past and fighting mindless blind zombies instead of enemies that required thought.

>>378207797
>Politically Correct dogs
Cringe

>>378207797
How come your argument doesn't seem to connect to your conclusion? How does AI and scripted sequences serve your point that Naughty Dog are "politically correct hacks"?

>>378207632
he's right.
it's a shit game and a shit movie on top.

I won't blame it for the shit movie, because well that's what almost all movie-games have.

You know that you fucked up when your "game" has a friendly AI that is way more stupid and retarded than the friendly AI of a game 8 years earlier, so that you have to set said AI to "invulnerable" and "invisible" instead of fixing it. The game 8 years earlier didn't do this.

Let that sink in.

>>378207932
yeah I cringed when they pulled the
>"we are so inclusive"
card. Go back to GAF faggot.

>>378187551
Agreed. It's about Joel finding a reason to live, and the lengths he goes to to preserve this reason to live.

It doesn't matter whether or not Ellie's death on the table would save humanity.

Also humanity is fucked anyway.

>all this butthurt over a Sony exclusive
PC cucks and drones are out in full force again.

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>>378187016
>not being willing to murder countless humans to save your daughterfu.
You are a shit dad.

>>378187016
Joel did nothing wrong.

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>>378187016
>not caring about your daughterfu

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>>378209418
Why did they give Ellie anime eyes?