>enemies die in 2-3 hits regardless of difficulty >bosses

Do games have to be hard?

>>378105330
I don't think you actually played the game

>>378105362
Not for weeb degenerates, no. This is why they love platinum so much

>>378105330
Play NieR.

>>378105413

Got A B C D E endings along some random joke endings. I numerous boss fights I had to keep running around just so I could hear the dialogue before basically OHKOing them.

Crit mods + spear of the usurper on 9S, basic damage mods and taunt up mods on 2B and A2.

Taunt + Berserker + max 100% damage boost + lvl 4 weapons by route C was the easiest thing I have ever played.

>>378105573
Watching twitch doesn't count as playing friend

>>378105330
>enemies die in 2-3 hits regardless of difficulty

Good job making it obvious you played on Easy/Normal.

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>>378105669

Here you go you fucking faggot.

>>378106295
shots fired

>start thread trying to show off his "skills"
>doesnt post a webm or any proof

lol OP you are better off bragging to your middle school friends.

>>378106295
>posting screen shots from streamers.
Either admit you're lying or fuck off you abo

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>>378106295
>Base HP and no anti-chain
Yeah, you're definitely fucking playing on normal

>>378106795

>needing any of that when you can infinite dodge

>>378106295
>auto-heal

Haha what a fucking faggot.
Did you also equip auto-dodge too

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>>378106647

Here you go you fucking faggot.

>>378107037

I chose auto-heal to make it slightly harder. I could've just put on offensive heal and and heal for the double digit crits I was doing. At least with auto-heal I had to back off every now and then.

>>378105330
Turn up the difficulty, everything will one shot you and all those autoheals, heal after kill and defense mods won't mean shit.

>>378106994
Just confess and move on my nig.

You obviously didn't play through on hard because any enemy would 1 shot you with your chip choices.
And you didn't play through on nightmare because you're not running a full offensive build.

>>378107101
I've seen clips like this 1000 times. 1v1 me roo

>>378107312

A2 with evade mods has invulnerability frames that are literally 4 seconds. Why would anyone waste space on anti-chain and HP mods?

>>378107312
>two heal mods
>hurrrr you played on easy/normal

Those were the ONLY defensive mods I had on, and auto-heal because I liked jumping off buildings, offensive to see my HP bar pop back to full after giant crits.

And the harder difficulties only makes enemies do more damage to you, you're STILL one shotting everything in sight.

>>378107349

Still proves how easy the game is. 10 levels higher and dies in 1.5 seconds.

>game has literally a difficulty option where you die in one hit
>clearly played on normal
>"is this the easiest game ever made?"

Jesus Christ kill yourself.
Go be underage on reddit, they might believe your bullshit.

>>378107526
>you're STILL one shotting everything in sight.
Oh fuck off. You're using a level 4 weapon while at the melee damage cap.

That is not indicative of the general flow for the majority of the game.

>>378107769

By route C? You must be fucking around a lot not to have a level 4 weapon and decents mods by route C.

>>378105330
You aren't supposed to use the auto-heal/deadly heal shit unless you are fucking shit at the game, I removed them the moment I noticed how they break the game even harder along with the Melee Defense and Damage increase chip.

>>378107714

You talking about hard? You dont' die in one hit on hard. Yes there's some enemies can one hit you, but for the most part a basic attack from say, enemy YorHa's will only do 70%.

If you're talking about very hard, I'd like to see your proof that you finished without dying once faggot.

I like it how these retarded shits calling every single one in this board weebs, as if it's some hurtful insults

As if they are too cool for us. New /v/ very epig lol

>>378107821
Even without them, there's no limit on healing items or the time you can use to heal. if you're fucked, just press down and spam healing pots. Putting on healing mods just makes it more convenient.

>>378107932
>if you're fucked, just press down and spam healing pots
Don't do it, you need to really cripple yourself in this game if you actually want to have some kind of fun because of how broken the game is balance wise. On my second playthrough I removed most damage increasing/decreasing chips and only took like 10 healing items tops with me and forcefully pushed the story so I ended up with enemies in Route B that are 10-20 Levels above me and it's a bit more fun considering enemies don't die in one hit/you survive fifty hits.

It kind of reminds of Valkyria Chronicles that forced you to gimp yourself too if you wanted to have any fun out of it.

>>378108103
That's really what I'm saying. if you have to forcefully limit yourself, then the game is doing something wrong. I could blindfold myself to make Angry Birds hard, but that still doesn't make Angry Birds hard.

I like the game, but they really fucked up the balance. The only difficult sections were the DLC arena, but that was because you could enter stages where they were 10+ levels higher, and EVEN then 9S makes it a cheese.

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>>378108310
>if you have to forcefully limit yourself, then the game is doing something wrong
That's right, I'm still hoping for someone to create a rebalance mod for Nier Automata like someone did for Valkyria Chronicles. And seeing how it's 3 months and we got no fucking news on a patch or anything else I'm not really hoping for a developer side fix for the balancing mess. People have been even using savefile editors to make themselves 10 levels lower.

>>378105330

>Grinds for 10 hours to get extremely overleveled and overgeared

>"Hurr why is it so easy?"

How fucking retarded are you? JUST HOW FUCKING RETARDED ARE YOU TO MAKE THIS THREAD? You fucking inbred mongoloid. Kill yourself. And never talk to me or my wife's son's cat again.

But seriously how can you be this retarded, like what goes through your brain when you do something like this? First, you intentionally ruin all the fun and challenge of the game for yourself like some kind of fun-hating autist. Then you complain about it and blame it on the game?

HOW. FUCKING. RETARDED.

>>378105330
No. But it is deliberately accessible and for a niche rpg that's a good thing.

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>>378108616
>"grind"
>do sidequests
>sell machine cores
>buy rare materials from vendors
>upgrade
>"grind"

>>378107821

Wrong. You ARE supposed to use auto-heal and deadly heal. What you're not supposed to use is healing items. Doing this and playing on Hard makes for the perfect difficulty. Trying to arbitrarily allow some healing items is way too vague to be an actually exciting challenge, you'll just start using more items as you need them. The various auto-heal chips are perfectly balanced for rewarding gameplay.

>>378108781
>You are supposed to use Deadly Heal
>Makes the entire game irrelevant considering stubbies die really fast and you heal yourself for one gorrillion HP
>Flying sections become irrelevant too
Don't listen to this anons advice unless you underwent lobotomy.

>>378108872

So what you're saying is, the game is easy.

>>378108939
Yes, if you want to make it hard you don't go using chips that heal you for a shit ton of HP when most enemies die in few hits.

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>Offensive Heal chip maxed
>10k+ crits

Why is this allowed?

>>378108738

You don't get to level 64 by not grinding you fucking retard. And it's blatantly obvious that you're not supposed to every fucking sidequest right away, it's not fucking hard to tell when you're overleveled and it's time to move on with the main story instead of ruining the fun of it even more, yet your autistic brain couldn't come to this simple realization.

It makes me happy that you were rewarded for your retardation by not having fun with any of the well-designed and exciting boss battles in the game.

>>378109002
then
>>378107312
this dude clearly needs to suck a dick for being wrong.

>>378108872

Try actually playing on Hard sometime and see what happens. I know what I'm fucking talking about when it comes to balancing difficulty.

>>378109045
>it's blatantly obvious that you're not supposed to every fucking sidequest right away
I did all of them as soon as I got them because advancing the story makes you auto fail them.

>>378109045
>You don't get to level 64 by not grinding you fucking retard
That's horseshit though, I got to Level 59 by the end of Route C just by doing quests and exploring areas for locked chests.

>>378109074
Yes he does indeed.

>>378109045

I never once did I grind, level 60 seems pretty standard by the end of all three major routes. I just did sidequests and the main quest. And considering you can fail sidequests if you don't finish them by the time you reach a point in the story, I'm pretty sure you're supposed to do sidequests.

In fact, the notion of sidequests being there and you not being supposed to do them is fucking stupid. Fuck you.

>>378109128
No, you actually don't. Literally everyone and their mom played the game on hard and the only way to enjoy hard is to actually remove any semblance of difficulty by removing broken chips like Melee Attack/Defense/Deadly Heal

>>378109217
*to enjoy hard is to actually remove any semblance of easy modo

>>378109143
>>378109190

You can't fail sidequests you fucking retard. The only missable thing in the entire game is Ending Y. When a sidequest has enemies 20 levels above you it's fucking obvious to anyone with a brain that you're supposed to come back later.

>these faggots who say how you're supposed to play a video game

stoppostinganytime.jpg

>>378109342
>You can't fail sidequests you fucking retard.
t. never did the escort quests

>>378109217
>>378109271

Said the one who used healing items, AKA the one single thing that is actually broken in this game.

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>>378109398
>limiting yourself to 10 healing items through one story arc
>comparable to having Deadly Heal that heals you up to 90% by killing 3 enemies
Stop deflecting you cunt.

>>378109385

>Fail mission
>Retry mission
>Complete mission

You are either retarded, autistic or just obnoxiously pedantic

>>378109501
You can't do Emils Memories if you advance into Route C before doing it
You can't do YoRHa Betrayers once you are in Route C

You can fail all of the Quests in Pascals Village on Route C if you go to the >Resistance Camp first before doing the other quests. Eat shit you retarded faggot.

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While the combat looked nice and worked for what it was, it's definitely didn't feel like the focal point of the game

It's a single-player RPG with a pretty big emphasis on story that has hack n slash combat sort of tacked on

Probably not worth getting autistic over the game balance

>>378109342

You automatically fail quests like Amenome's Memories and Wandering Couple once you fight the Flooded City boss, faggot.

>>378109483

I'm not deflecting at all, I'm telling you straight up that Deadly Heal is balanced and healing items are not, which is a fact. Deadly Heal rewards you for playing well, using healing items rewards you for being shit. No actual challenging fight lets you abuse Deadly Heal, you'll get little use from it against bosses or groups of stronger enemies and you're not going to die to a bunch of stubbies regardless. For self-imposed restrictions to be engaging and legitimate they should increase the depth of the gameplay along with the challenge, and have clear unambiguous rules. "I'll use fewer healing items" is not good enough, and removing a mechanic that rewards skill runs counter to the purpose of the challenge.

There, this is why you are retarded. Now who's "deflecting"?

>>378109398
>100% damage healing isn't broken
>10k crits isn't broken
>resilience isn't broken
>taunt for 400% damage done (in addition to 10k crits) isn't broken
>berserk+taunt+crits isn't broken
>hacking isn't broken

okay mate

>>378109615

>What is chapter select

Fucking retard.

>>378109758
>Deadly Heal rewards you for playing well
>OHKO a stubby
>100% HP back

>>378109797

None of those things make you 100% invincible and makes the game impossible to fail, anon. Items do. There's plenty of powerful tools in this game, but none of the ones you are listing are broken.

>>378109809
>talking about Chapter select when the other guy was talking about his first playthrough
Take a noose and hang yourself if you can't even bother to read posts properly.

>>378109846

Tell me anon, in what challenging fight are there stubbies waiting for you to kill them for free health?

>>378109758
> No actual challenging fight lets you abuse Deadly Heal
That is the joke, the game has no real challenging fights which is the entire problem of Deadly Heal since you can whack most enemies in a couple hits unless you gimp yourself so hard and forcing the enemies to be around 20-30 levels above you.

>>378109683
I was thinking about this. Haven't picked up the game yet although I'm intrigued by the design and the story, but every time I see the game discussed it's all about different endings or 2B's ass. If someone talks about the bosses it's just "the bosses" like that wasn't an important part of games like this. I never see dfferent combat encounters, quests or anything like that discussed, it's all story speculation and buttcheeks.

>>378105330
and why does everything have to be LE EPIC DIFFICULT DIE DIE DIE XD LE DARK SOLS?

do you have autism or something?

>>378109919
Literally every fight, there isn't a single time where Stubbies or Bi-Peds ever pose a challenge. They only ever pose a challenge in early Route C when they all employ their EMP.

>>378109873
>>378109712
>>378109615

>What is chapter select

You're not supposed to do all the sidequests in the first playthrough, fucking retard. That's the entire point.

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>game is too easy on normal
>game is too hard on hard

why

>>378109995

>I am too autistic to understand what's going on in my conversation

You can only use the mods on Easy though, right? Are you shit at games OP?

>>378109968
Can we please pass on the ironic "Le" to the graveyard of strawmen already along with "xD" and "Muh"? It would make this site a better place.

>>378110020
>You're not supposed to do all the sidequests in the first playthrough
According to who? Your ass? I did 87% of Quests in my first playthrough, it's entirely possible for someone to do 100% of them.

>>378109968
The funniest part is that Dark Souls isn't even difficult, it's just slow. Check above how the OP is bothered by the hits enemies die in, everything would be solved if they died in 5 hits or so, and every animation took at least 6 seconds to go through from startup to finish.

>>378110095
Auto-Chips also work on normal I think.

>>378110095
>mods
Fuck I meant auto use stuff.

>>378110067
>playing for the first time
>start game on hard
>get oneshotted before combat tutorial manages to tell me how to do anything
I probably should've switched to hard mid-game once I learned how the gameplay works but my autism forces me to play on the difficulty I started on.

>>378109919

Please detail to me the complex evasive manoeuvres that stubbies possess.

>>378110125

According to anyone who understands game balance and developer intentions and doesn't want the game to be a cakewalk, which is what the retarded OP is complaining about.

>>378109864

I'm pretty sure 3 hitting a boss is broken.

>>378109995
>>378110345

>American reading comprehension

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>>378110367
>indirectly admitting you didn't delete your savefile the first moment you get the chance

>>378110367

>developer intentions

Considering the fact they're in the first route of the game and can be completed by the first route of the game, I'm pretty sure the developers INTENDED them to be done so. If not, then they wouldn't have been doable, fucker. Or at least would only appear in later playthroughs (like actual Route B/C sidequests do).

>>378110208

Auto-Heal and Auto-Use is usable on any difficulty.

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>>378110367
>this damage control
Where do retarded faggots like you even come from.

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>>378110478
>get the option to delete save
>I'm missing 1 achievement I didn't buy because I thought I would get it from this ending
>refuse and go back to get it

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>>378110367

>developer intended you to not use the mod chips, not do any sidequests, self-castrate yourself and walk on both hands in order to properly play the game

okay faggot. the irony of the fact is that the whole game's thematic is about player choice and freedom (even ending E espouses this), and here you're harping on about what you're supposed to do, what's wrong and what's right.

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>>378110286
I feel you. I started on hard too, but then I switched to normal.

I finished the game and started on hard immediately afterwards. I clocked 17 hours and I just reached 9s, took me 3-4 hours just to get past the 45 minute-long tutorial with no save points....

>>378110493
>>378110558

>I am such a huge retard that I willingly ruined the game for myself to the point where I have to go on /v/ to whine about it
>I'm sure this is what the developers intended though, you're the retard not me even though you had an extremely fun, challenging and meaningful experience with the game and I did not

>>378110783

Side quests are in the game. Mod chips are in the game. And here you're saying the developer intended for you to not engage with them at all? Fuck off faggot, unless you got a direct like to Taro's dick, you don't know about his intentions.

>>378110367
>you can decide to delete or not to delete your ENTIRE game file
>on easy the game will literally play itself for you
>you can BUY achievements

>>378110767

This thread is about the game's perceived lack of difficulty, retard. It's perfectly fine to not want the game to be hard. But if you do, and you intentionally play it in a way that makes it easy regardless, then you have several downs syndromes.

>>378110862

I was the one arguing that you SHOULD use mod chips, you double nigger. You should also do the sidequests. When you are at their fucking level. Not when you are 10 levels below so you spend the next hour grinding and then complain the main story is easy afterwards.

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I'm sure everyone knew before release that game was gonna have extreme balancing issues and thus everyone realized that doing side-quests was best saved for the second playthrough to not gimp the first playthrough.

>>378110901

Intentionally play in a way to make it easy? All everyone is doing is fucking doing sidequests and equipping the chips that they gain as they play.

How the FUCK is that playing in a intentional way to make it easy? I can understand if it was exploiting some i-frame mechanic, grinding till max level etc., but the game is easy as piss just by NORMALLY PLAYING THE FUCKING GAME FAGGOT.

>>378111000

I never grinded, and completed all sidequests on my first playthrough except for Emil's Memories and Parade. Why would you even need to grind? Nearly all the sidequests are just go here, get item, come back. The only one that I saved for Route B was the Parade, and that was like the only quest that featured enemies 10 levels higher.

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>>378111000
>>378110783

>game's loading screen tips tells you to go out and explore shit that can't be found, do quests etc.

>NOOOO STOP PLAYING THIS WAY HERE'S THE RIGHT WAY TOO PLAY IT THAT'S NOT THE WAY IT WAS INTENDED

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>>378111041
>You should also do the sidequests. When you are at their fucking level
There's a single side-quest that has enemies above your level.

>>378111000
You'd be right if it weren't for the fact that like one or two sidequests feature enemies you can't defeat.

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>don't do quests because of fear of overleveling yourself
No thanks, if I did that I would probably have missed the Keepsakes Quest continuation which is based on you actually finishing Emils Memories.

>>378105330
If you're not playing on the hardest difficulty why even complain that it's not hard enough? I imagine never taking a hit is nier impossible

>>378111827

I'd rather the normal definition of hard, and not die once and completely lose your saves.

>>378107174

Dude I put on auto-heal just because the game was fucking annoying if you don't. "Oh, looks like you forgot to heal yourself for the umpteenth million time. Game over, pal!"

Also, on the easiest mode, the game literally plays itself, so, yeah. The game isn't super challenging. I think beardbros here mistake wasting their time for challenge.

>>378112073
I could be wrong but I don't think you lose your saves

>>378105362
No, they have to be engaging. This isn't and it's not just limited to the brain dead combat i might add

>>378106295
>Stack easy mode and healing chips
>Wah the game is too easy
Kys faggot

>>378113057

Chips are part of the game. Therefore the game is easy.

I remember when NieR threads used to be good...

>>378113227
Holy shit, how the /v/ettitor even respond to this

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=krWrGregsx0
>spend 10+ minutes complaining about the first save point
>complains about visual effects after getting hit by multiple EMP attacks
how can a guy who chooses to review games be so bad at games?

>>378113057
if you have to invent rules for yourself then its probably not a very good game.

>>378113248
What, when they were entirely just ass posting? go to /e/

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>>378105330
Heh. Stupid secondary. You just don't get it. This is YOKO. FUCKING. TARO. It doesn't "get" good, thats the point buddy, YOKO TARO. A mind as feeble as yours could never truly appreciate the genius of YOKO FUCKING TARO. The tedious combat represents the tedium in our lives, and being constantly interrupted to go play the hacking minigame symbolizes our desire to escape from the tedium, but only into another form of it. There is no escape, just like there is no escape from BASED YOKO TARO bringing us on his LOONY MAD MAN WILD RIDE yet again! You secondaries will just never get it!

>>378105330
>auto-use item mod

Only works on easy difficulty. OP is a pussy.

>>378115616
Works on normal too. I put it on because I was just too lazy to manually heal and didn't have other healing chips yet.

>>378115479
No, i'm talking about the first game

>>378115616

Usable on all difficulties.

>>378107875
You die in one hit on Hard mode to half the game.

Not getting one shot by everything doesn't really start being a thing until like halfway through route B.

I agree OP. Sadly the only thing going for the gameplay is that it looks cool. On normal at least you can faceroll your way through the game as soon as you stack up on healing items or chips.

>>378105330
do you get any kind of fast travel? im after the carnival and most of what im doing is running around

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>clear route C
>unlocked chapter select
>already did most of the side quests
>decide it's time to grind for the sweet post game content
>grind bunnies for an hour, hit Lv.99
>brace myself for waves of super high level bots
>only 2 Lv.99 enemies in the game

I was let down. I was hoping for massive armies of Lv.99 mobs, the highest I saw were around Lv. 60.

>>378117642
Yes continue the main story until you do. Then do the side quests.

>>378117642
You get fast travel after you fight Adam and Steve , so you'll get it soon enough.

>>378108310
I love the game, but I agree. A simple "action game" mode which flattens stats, removes leveling, and minimizes the impact of chipsets would be perfect.

i got that taunt chip, but how do you taunt? or is it automatic?

>>378117908
Hold light attack. Only A2 can taunt.

>>378117698
Yeah, same. I was hoping that when I become high level, some hardcore giant robots appear, but no.

>>378117908
2B and 9S can taunt by rapidly turning their flashlight on and off (the light has to hit the enemy). You'll see steam come off mobs if it works.

A2 can taunt by holding down the light attack button.

reminder that you cannot win against automatafags

>>378118130

It's funny because flashlight taunt is way better than A2's taunt, because you can keep attacking/moving while doing it.

>>378118139
Silly anon, you can only win by giving up your files

I feel like difficulty was done really well as opposed to most games. Instead of doing a braindead retarded "Enemy health and damage scales with higher difficulty" garbage that most games do, they just made the game harder by taking away elements of play (Lock on) and made it so you either had to play more defensive and rely on not getting hit as much (Hard) or made it so you just need to git gud and never get hit by anything ever (Very Hard).

It's not perfect, but at least it's not as bad.

I still feel like the original DOOM did difficulty the best. Higher difficulty just meant lots more enemies. Not artificial bullshit like changing damage and health values.

>>378118054
I was hoping the endgame/postgame quests would include desperate stuggles against hordes of high level robots, like the factory defense with A2, and the sand pit with 2B/9S but tougher.

Instead we had to collect 95% of all enemy data for 4S.

>>378109712
You can do Wandering Couple in Route B, and you only have to do it once.

If you don't do it in A, it'll be there in B, if you do it in A, it wont be there in B.

Some quests are better left til later play throughs because they can be ridiculously difficult as 2B, but as 9S they can be hacked and completed in a reasonable time frame, and by then you will most likely finally be the appropriate level.

>>378118339
>I feel like difficulty was done really well as opposed to most games

What is this, your first hack and slash?

>>378110203
No, they only work on Easy.

Only exception is Auto-Heal which works on every difficulty.

>>378110415
There are no bosses that go that quickly unless you cheese the hell out of the system by developing ridiculously op combos and stack double damage buffs.

>>378110687
>buying cheevos

Cheater.

>>378119340

How is it cheesing when it's just straight up handed to you? You don't need to cheese anything to fuse mods. And the strongest combos are the simplest ones (9S's hold light attack)

>>378119463
No reason not to buy the 9S ones. Who honestly sneaked around the map for four hours hijacking robots in order to get the 50 Robokill one?

Plus it was only like 50,000 G

>>378111258
There are several.

Parade, Lord of whatever(the giant suicide robot lvl 50 down in the valley), Father Servo.

Those 3 come to mind immediately, better saved til route B, same with the golden machines, though they aren't quest related.

>>378112073
You don't lose your save, you just die in one hit to almost everything.

Makes defensive chips worthless and makes you build pure offense, and makes Taunt really useful.

>>378117698
Use debug mode and spawn a bunch of 99 enemies if that's what you want.

>>378120256

I did all those in B and was still overleveled.

>>378105330
You could uh..unequip your weapons and fight barehanded like a real man.

>>378120903
It doesn't even matter when you do them since nothing changes unless you grind exp to be able to do them.

>>378120903
Doesn't really matter, side quests don't overlevel you, only grinding enemies does.

Sidequests don't do much besides give you some loot.

What's wrong with it being easy?

>>378121465

I didn't grind either though,

>>378105330
Did you even play above normal? Healing mods are useless, everything kills you in one to two hits. I admit hard is not even as hard as the normal in other games of the genre, but you're massively overstating how easy the game is.

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This thread made me realize just how shit the average /v/ user is at games when they consider Hard actually hard. Or I'm just that good that Hard isn't even a challenge.