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>Bloodstained: Ritual of the Night is apparently only "20 to 30 percent complete" roughly two years later. IGA revealed the news to Famitsu this week, and notes that he needs to "speed up development" if he wants to hit his target.

https://www.destructoid.com/bloodstained-kickstarted-in-2015-is-only-20-to-30-percent-done-437626.phtml
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I swear to god either this company is cursed or they are lazy as fuck
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>>377873720
20-30% isn't bad seeing as they basically started overwriting all of Inti-Creates work about 6 months ago.
>>377873809
Iga actually hired more people to deal with Inti-creates incompetence.
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You hear that? It's the ghostly wails of MN9 and Yooka Laylee coming to drag Bloodstained into the grave with them.
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>>377873982
>20-30% isn't bad seeing as they basically started overwriting all of Inti-Creates work about 6 months ago.

What did they do? Are you saying that they fired Inti and got new devs?
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>>377874017
dude, shut the heck up, this one is different, this one has a cute girl
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>>377873720
>Inti-Creates
Why won't this fucking company go bankrupt already? Fuck these guys.
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>>377874017

Make this a comic. Undead Beck and Yooka dragging Miriam to a grave while shovel Knight bravely tries to hold onto her.
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I BELIEVE IN IGA AND I HAVE THIS 6 TO PROVE IT
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>>377873809
It takes time to make video games.
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>>377873982
>>377873809

Inti Creates is staggeringly incompetent at 3D and Unreal Engine. They only know how to do 2D games.
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>>377874068
No. They hired more people to look over all of inti-creates shit and fix the crap they looked over.
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>>377874218
Get back to work Iga
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>>377873720
http://archive.is/pylpd
archive of op's poop
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RUSHED GARBAGE

SCREENSHOT THIS POST
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>>377874017
>mfw Shovel Knight and Thimbleweed Park turned out absolutely fucking incredible

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkTNuxPV99A
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>>377874171

Is Shovel Knight literally the only Kickstarter game that delivered?
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>only "20 to 30 percent complete"

LIKE AN ANIME FAN ON A PROM NIGHT

AHAHAHHAHA
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>>377874453
I WANT TO MOLEST A SQUID KID
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>>377874253
Galgun Double Peace is both of those things and it
>runs well on PS4 and PC
>plays decently
>looks decent on PS4 and PC
>didn't get delayed for years
>wasn't a Kickstarter project run by people who have no idea how to run a company
The problem isn't Inti, they've proven their competence with their solo games, the problem is these former game dev superstars not knowing what to do when they no longer have someone to boss them around and keep them in line.
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>>377874495
No.
FTL
Divinity Original Sin and it's sequel.
Banner saga.
More that I can't think of off the top of my head.
People only vividly remember the failed ones because it had more of a impact on them.
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>>377874553
At least this is the 5th delay. or even the second.
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>>377874585
was this made by evaxephon
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>>377873720
Given how bad the released footage looks, this might be a good thing.
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>>377874713
Also Shadowrun
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>>377874585
>Galgun Double Peace

Looks like shit and is just more Kawaii Uguu. Graphically it's on par with MN9. It's no masterpiece and looks like mobile. Don't pretend that this is some masterpiece that shows Inti are great 3D artists.
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>>377874787
>At least this is the 5th delay. or even the second.
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>>377874713
Why did FTL need to be kickstarted again? That game could have been made in a year by one person.
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>>377874912
typo.
Isn't*
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>>377874874
holy shit, haven't heard that name in a long time
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God dammit, Bloodstained is the only Kickstarter I've ever backed because I love the hell out of Castlevania. Is it my turn to get cucked now?
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>>377874906
i think anon is just rusing us and this is yanderesim with a new name
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>>377875094
Too early to tell really.
It hasn't showed glaring signs of impending failure yet.
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>>377873720
CURSE YOU, SCAM MAN!
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>>377874495
Nah, plenty of quiet ones have.

Shovel Knight is one of the very few breakout hits though. Undertale too, objectively at least.
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>>377874874
>>377874906
For an upscaled low budget title that was originally on Vita it's pretty decent and it looks better than MN9 ever did, not to mention you didn't even contest any of the other points. MN9 was a technical disaster on almost every platform, Double Peace runs well and accomplishes what it sets out to do outside of the admittedly shitty Vita version. Bloodstained's mishandling is likely a result of Iga having no idea what to do on his own, he's not a businessman whatsoever.
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>>377873720
>Kickstarted game misses deadlines and is a disaster

Woah, who could have possibly seen that coming?
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>>377875094
the e3 (was it e3? )demo was good. That's a plus
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>>377875094

It has the exact same problems as MN9. Same team even. But Iga issmarter than Inafune. He is trying his best to salvage what he can and avoid disaster. He's hired additional teams to assist in development and fix problems, something Inafune never did.

Whether he'll succeed, who knows.
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>>377875091
Have you slept through all of the Yandere Simulator news?
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>dogshit studio struggles to develop game in timely manner

SURPRISED
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>>377875673
>dogshit studio

Inti creates are veterans and leaders in the industry.
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>>377875627
Don't visit as much as I used to
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>>377875545
I guess people should only contract development out to Inti for NES remasters.
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>>377875376
MN9's Failure was due to Inafune being nothing but a business man. He got the funding and dropped nearly all involvement with the game.

Iga is known for working tight budgeted games. The only real problem Iga is working with is not knowing what the fuck he is going to do with the extra money. Which is probably the reason for the delay. Iga is a Producer, programmer, Director and scenario writer.
He is several magnitudes more qualified to make a video game than Inafune ever was.
The first good step he took during the development of this game is hire more competent people to deal with Inti-creates' bullshit.
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>>377875846

They're great for 2D games.
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>>377875376
So they can use Unreal Engine for a first person game. Making a 2.5D platformer with the engine known for FPSs is a lot more challenging apparently.
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>>377875514
Where does it say that? Your ass?
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>>377875770
Who could ever forget the creators of the great Gon: Baku Baku Baku Adventure?
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>>377873720
>kickstarter game was a scam
Absolutely shocking.
Honestly, even though I love Shovel Knight to bits, I hate it because it gave the industry the whole idea that Kickstarter was ok. Ouya did it. MN9 did it. Yooka Laylee did it. And now Bloodstained is going to do it. When are people going to stop backing shit like this?
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>>377876098

>3DS game looks better than MN9
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Why does Inti Creates love to use Unreal Engine so much for their 2.5D games? It almost never works out for them, they're better off making a beautiful 2D sidescroller, it'd be cheaper and faster too. Did they learn nothing from Mighty No 9?
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This shit really blows my mind. You see these veteran developers with years of experience, you give them millions and you think its gonna be okay. These guys know what they are doing! But no, they keep fucking up. Then you see these other indie devs with less money and people making good games like Hollow Knight, Dust and Dead Cells. Just what the fuck is happening?
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>>377876358

Free engine and they're a budget devloper.
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>>377876209
Kickstarter is good, but you're just soured by bad experiences

There are plenty of good games that wouldn't have come out until kickstarter happened
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>>377876309
MN9 is a 3DS game.
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>Post your face when you didnt fell for the kickstarter meme
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>>377876478
It makes sense that they dont have the largest budget, but there had to be a better option than making a 2.5D game on the same engine that caused them problems with another major game.
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>>377876443

These devs aim too high, and get bogged down in technical problems and the weight of their project. The indie devs use simple 2D engines, and keep the focus on simplicity and fun content. Rather than porting to 20 consoles, movies/tv/merch.

If MN9 and BS were focused on the 3DS, and 2D, they would have been much more successful.
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>>377875957
>>377873982
Was it stated explicitly that the hires were due to Inti Creates' lackings? Or is this more inferred?
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>>377876443
What do you mean what the fuck is happening? Games take time to work and I have faith in Iga because of the E3 demo. I don't want him to rush his game

It's not like "oh every year the finish about 20/30%".
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>>377876443
maybe the vets are used to working at big-name companies with highly competent dev teams. Not the second-rate trash working on kickstarter budgets.
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Maybe Iga should spend more time working and less time going to cons in outfits getting his dick sucked.
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>>377876720
>It's not like "oh every year the finish about 20/30%".

They were 10% done last year. 10-20% progress per fucking year? That's pathetic.
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>>377876706
I would assume inferred.
Japan has the whole Honor bound shit. subtly shaming people until they chose quit or retire but never outright saying the other person or group is shit at their jobs or fire them themselves.
>>377876781
He was there to showcase a new playable character.
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>>377876781
>>377875770
Is this Kenichi Smith?
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>>377876868
Had to clean up after they kicked inti-creates ass out to the curb.
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>>377876781
This enrages the hikki.
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>>377877113
Holy shit it's Kinichi Smith
Hello Kenichi Smith. I hope you're western cartoons watching endeavor is going great.
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>>377877343
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Please no not Iga too.
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>>377877534
Damn the SJWs got him. I wasn't expecting him to absorb that part of western culture.
Fucking sad.
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>>377877534
Brave Earth doesnt look bad to be honest.
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>>377873720
I like Iga and Castlevania a lot, but I simply couldn't give him money for this. Fucking kekstarter.
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>>377873720
>confirmed delay
looks like they didn't want to get overshadowed by pic related
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>>377877704

I like the girl, as I have dedicated my life to ejaculating into as many brown girls as possible, but the game looks boring.
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>>377877704
I trust Lab Zero a lot more. It was the first and only crowdfunding campaign I supported. Gave them money for 1 extra Sg char but ended up a lot more.
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>>377877704
I hope Indivisible will be enough of a success that they can license out the engine and devs will start using it for 2.5D platformers instead of Unreal or fucking Unity
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>>377877704
I'll be surprised if it becomes a hit. They know jack shit about marketing (everytime Mike Z open his mouth) and most people who liked Skullgirls were the people that liked the character design, where Indivisible has weaker designs.
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>>377877704
Yeah. They confirmed the delay to 2018 like 8 months ago.
First delay like a full year prior to the previous release date.

Which is much better than delaying 6 times only weeks before launch.
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>>377877637
To Igarashi that's just a fat burger with a tipogg of a 30 year old video game.
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>Iga's face when it's released in 4 years
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>Mighty No. 9
>Indivisible
>Yooka-Laylee
>Star Citizen
>Bloodstained
Why do we keep falling for the crowdfunding meme when it keeps biting us in the ass? When will we learn, /v/ros?
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>>377874787
>At least this is the 5th delay. or even the second.
What did he mean by this?
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>>377878845
>Indivisible

Why is it called that if I can still see it?
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>>377878845
Because Shovel Knight, Shantae, Pillars of Eternity, etc. show that sometimes it works out.
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>>377878845
I mean, there's a few games that used kickstarter the right way and are successful.

If any game is being sold on concept or just a few drawings, you're a moron to support it. If the game is 90% done and just needs money for marketing or whatever, then it can be a decent way to go about it
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Why hasn't the Kickstarter page updated in the last 2 months?
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>>377879049
>>377879049
Several good games of have come out of Kickstarter that would of not come out otherwise underage kiddies can't understand that you are going to get bad games along with the good.
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As a $300 backer I'm pretty worried right now. There's been no new update since March, and no new ingame assets since February. Still clinging onto the glimmer of hope that was the E3 demo, but it's hard not to feel IGA is losing control with the dev switching and now this.
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>>377879572
>$300

Nigga, you ain't making money out of this. This isn't an investment.
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>>377878975
Read the thread dicklips. He said it was a typo.
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>>377879658
>you ain't making money out of this
No shit? I backed for that much because I love Castlevania and want to see IGA's game succeed.
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>>377879572
I know how you feel :( That said, the 20-30% done isn't as bad as it sounds, from what one of the staff members said on the forum, they have most of the assets complete, they just have to implement them in the game, which should be easier than making all of them from scratch and should taker much less time.
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>>377877704
>pic related

That's not going to overshadow anything. Look at how hard it had to whore itself out to even meet its funding goal. That game was funded more on Shovel Knight, Shantae, Red, and a T-Rex fighting fucking Zubaz than on its own premise.
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>>377877704

Just looked this up. Holy shit I want this. Is there a steam steam page yet? I love how bouncy and animated it feels. Brown girl mc is also cool
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>>377879928
At this point I have more hopes in Konami doing something better with the brand than Iga's project. LOL
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>>377880175

Nevermind. Theres a demo apparently
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>>377880217
Let's not get ahead of ourselves, when the last thing they ever did related to Castlevania was fucking pachislot
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>>377874017
Yooka Laylee was good though
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>>377876601
Not anymore
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>>377880528
I wouldn't say good.
I would say ok.
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>>377880625
Once they release the polish updates I think it may be actually good. But only time will tell.
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>>377879459
>tfw every artist that drew Beck regrets drawing him
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>>377880078
>Skullgirls animators
>music by the Secret of Mana guy
>Metroidvania game designed by a the kid that found the Super Metroid glitches that are still used in speedruns today
>Valkyrie Profile game designed by the guy that made a balanced teambased fighting game
>anime opening by TRIGGER
>Valkyrie Profile character designer in TRIGGER
The Indivisible squad is fucking stacked
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I got an h-game out of it and that's good enough for me.
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>>377876620
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>>377880393
What about the animated tv series? :)
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>>377879459

Beck has a really shitty design. It's both too busy and too derivative of Mega Man. If I was Inafune, I would make sure my new hero didn't have any blue color scheme.
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>>377880849
>inFundable
>ever releasing
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>>377873720

Serves him well, he trusted Inti Creates.

By the way, I have an Inti Creates employee literally next to me for the next 20 minutes. What should I tell him?
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>>377881052
Con man.
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>>377880791
Fucking japs. They need Konami to whip them out and make them work
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>>377881052
>By the way, I have an Inti Creates employee literally next to me for the next 20 minutes.

What level? Considering you're speaking English, it's probably some Western Social Media shit right?

Ask them why Bloodstained is taking so long.
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>>377874906
Sad thing about Gal Gun Double Peace, original Gal Gun looks better and was on 360/ps3.
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>>377881168

I can speak Japanese very well. Guy has worked on the Blaster Master remake for Switch, I doubt he knows anything about Bloodstained.
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>>377881052

What happened to Keiji Inafune? He's dropped off the map since Recore.

>>377881352

Surely they at least talk to other staff members.
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>>377880950
What's this?
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>>377881548
Menu pornography
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>>377881404
Like a good con man he is on hiding
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>>377879049
>Shantae
get your brown shit waifu off thatblost. game was barely even decent with so much missing and took as long as mn9 did.
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>>377878845
I feel like Inti Creates is more the cause of the problem than Kickstarter. They're just a very very poor studio who is trying to piggyback off the Kickstarter fad to sign big name deals.

Also Indivisible isn't even out and has a much more respectable dev behind it than Inti. I'm still very optimistic for Indivisible.
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>>377881651
This, why people hype Shantae this much?
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>>377881585
Wait did they literally make a porn parody game faster than the actual game?
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>>377881784
>This, why people hype Shantae this much?

Mating with brown girls is the highest goal of every white man.
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>>377874495
Not even close.
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>>377881742
I am too but I despise what they did to some of the character.
Intense spanish cowboy hybrid pistolman turned into sleepy black cowboy. Super shitty redesign.
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>>377881851
Just threw up a little.
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>>377881851
No, out of waifu bait I'm talking about the game themselves
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>>377881826
Yes
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>>377874453

Thimbleweed park fucked the shark at the end.
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>>377881931
it's nothing but anime waifu bait
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>>377881826
Looks like it. Also looks like it is shallow as fuck, made in flash, and is only like 20 mins long.
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>>377881965
any actual lewd scenes?
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>>377882090
Yes, but blue board.
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>>377875514
>>377876072
Kek, rip kickstarter shills
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>>377881896
They fixed that. It's a ladyboy now.
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People don't like the art style in this game and I don't either, I just don't understand why anybody liked how Symphony of the Night looks. I think it's people confusing the amazing cover art with the actual game.
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>>377882279
>fixed
Still shit.
Spanish dude with wicked facial hair was best design.
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>>377880950
What's this called? Google Fu is failing me big time.
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>>377882358
Eh. I'm on board for the Doll house/Stage play/Diorama look. I didn't even back the game.
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>>377875094
go play hollow knight
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>>377882132
What's the name of the game?
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>>377882386
https://twitter.com/Dlisgame/status/848064835363393536
Here you go. Have fun.
A gameplay demo without porn exists.
If I ever get my hands on it, I'll throw it in another bloodstained thread.
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>>377873720
id rather they take their time instead of getting rushed crap
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>>377879024
Because the amount of brain cells you have is also indivisible without causing fractions.
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>>377882529
The name is "japanese title that's too fucking long."
A short version is "A Witch's Night of Revenge", but that won't turn any results up.
Just go here. >>377882531
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>>377874116
>cute
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>>377882531
Cheers!
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>>377882531
>same guy who made Bullet Requiem
I hope he's improved since then, Bullet Requiem had okay scenes and garbage gameplay
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>>377881742
>I feel like Inti Creates is more the cause of the problem than Kickstarter. They're just a very very poor studio who is trying to piggyback off the Kickstarter fad to sign big name deals.

Mega Man Zero and ZX? Mega Man 9 and 10? Blaster Master Zero? They can make some solid stuff to be fair.
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>>377882132
Can you imgur?
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I can wait as long as I need to. Castlevania is dead and Konami is fucking terrible, Bloodstained is my last hope to see the spirit of my favorite series again.
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>studio that specializes in nice looking 2d games
>"nah lets go 3d what could go wrong"
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>>377883051

All those games are 2D.

>Mega Man Zero and ZX?

Over rated games. Massively.

>Mega Man 9 and 10?

Formula is already well done and understood at this point. So repeating that formula is easier than a new game. Plus direction was done by Capcom. Inti were just grunt work.
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>>377878845
Indivisible hasn't reached their planned release year yet and has posted regular updates so far.
Even if they get hit with a delay they'll still have the Prototype, the upcoming Backer Demo, and the livestreams to show progress.

I'm confident that IGA wants to do a good job with Bloodstained, but right now all they have is their E3 demo and a few video clips to show. They'll really need to drum up more content to help build some confidence in their ability to deliver.

I do respect them for being honest about their percentages this early though, along with taking steps to drum up production at the start of the year. I wish them luck.
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>>377881742
>http://ca.ign.com/articles/2016/10/05/why-bloodstained-was-delayed-to-2018
It was more to the fact that they had to change their initial gameplan (a more simpler game) due to the increased budget.
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>>377882968
>garbage
It was fine. The only bad part was first getting the hang of the vine "swinging", and if that's gone and he improves slightly then it's already better than most indie platformers these days.
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>>377883252
I mean I would at least argue, all those games are at least above Mighty Number 9, which I do agree is their weakest game yet.
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The Kickstarter life is stressful.
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>>377874495
Kickstarter gave us this masterpiece.
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>>377883579
>tfw trump winning and his dads death drove dingaling insane
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>>377883552
The fuck is Cosmic Star Heroine? Some SJW tumblr crap?
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>>377883552
I need to finish playing this game. The battle system is actually pretty intense at times despite being very fair with damage and abilities and stuff.
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>>377883673

Its on steam. Looks like scifi weebshit
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>>377874495
yooka laylee actually did deliver exactly what they promised, it's just that no one really wants to play a banjo threeie
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>>377876706
There were some articles about it. I think they might have also gone into a little detail on the community podcast.

The main problem was that they needed studios with more experience developing procedural tools to help speed up the map building process. This is stuff IntiCreates was apparently not equipped for, but Inti is still involved on some of the more detail oriented parts of production right now.

They showed a bit of what they meant by procedural tools in one of their updates. It's actually kind of interesting.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7i__6X8jQ_o
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>>377876706
>Was it stated explicitly that the hires were due to Inti Creates' lackings?

Directly implied. Iga saying he wanted to ensure high graphical quality. ie Inti can't do it.
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>>377884457

>last update was March
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>>377875957
>Iga is known for working tight budgeted games. The only real problem Iga is working with is not knowing what the fuck he is going to do with the extra money. Which is probably the reason for the delay. Iga is a Producer, programmer, Director and scenario writer.
>He is several magnitudes more qualified to make a video game than Inafune ever was.
>The first good step he took during the development of this game is hire more competent people to deal with Inti-creates' bullshit.
And yet he hired init-creates in the first place. You want more of his failings? He has an official work other than this kickstarter which he flies from Japan to China and back often besides the flights he do for Bloodstained. Bloodstained somehow is already selling merchandise for a non-existent game. Iga hired the same people Inafune did even the one the that is not called inti-creates. Most of bloodstained is contracted work all over the world.
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>people giving examples of good kickstarter games like hollow knight
>Most of them are already in production even before their kickstarter happened
>Some of them failed/lack features they promised or still missing ports
>Most of them were delayed years of their promised release date
>Some of them are lightweight in code so you only need the art guy which is most often the creator
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>>377885161
He hired inti-creates before the fiasco of MN9 concluded. Ensuring that they were incompetent he immediately hired people to keep them in check and unfuck their mistakes.

Want to know Inafune's Failings? He wasn't the father of megaman and lied to every single one of his backers. The moment he got the funding he ditched having absolutely any involvement with the game at all. then months to a year before the game even released he double dips on kickstarter and gets funding a Game that is never coming out and a TV series that japan refuses to air.

Which is worse?
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>>377885370
Point games to these accusations.
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>>377885370
this just describes normal game development honestly.

any game you love has mountains of cut content, unexpected delays, and hours of pre-production behind it. some of these are shown publicly, but most aren't.
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