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/v/ does it still hurt that we will NEVER get Nomura's

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/v/ does it still hurt that we will NEVER get Nomura's true vision of Final Fantasy Versus XIII/Final Fantasy XV?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YiIx9VJWSl8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WEKNUCjcrMY&t=3s

Goddamn it still hurts so fucking bad. Final Fantasy XV was the biggest disappointment I ever had playing a video game.
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>>377861949
Don't worry. E3 is around the corner.
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>>377861949
XV is so disappointing - I didn't lose hope ever since 2006 until I actually put the disc in my PS4 - I hoped some part of his vision remained. They slaughtered the easiest and most vital part to maintain and develop upon - the KH2 combat.

SAD!
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Leviathan and the last boss is so pathetic, holy shit - just how???
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>>377862076
A man can dream
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>>377862385
shitty super sayan controls.

Only worked for Levithan because it was a bigass target so you could use the long range move.

With Ardyn, you could not hit shit
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>>377861949
Yes, i will never buy this piece of shit not even for 99% off.
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>Regis went from a cool badass Yakuza boss to a generic old king
You can not defend this shit. You literally can not
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Hey I enjoyed it and the music was amazing

Will prob get the dlc at some point
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I wonder how Nomura feels to see Tabata completely butcher his dream project
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Just started it. Doesn't seem that bad. Had a good time for those 2hours.
Is it geting better?
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>>377863547
Buckle in, big boy. It's a steep downhill from there.
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>>377862385
The final fight with Ardyn was so anti climatic holy shit. It's just you and him one on one then suddenly we super saiyan fight now and then.. that's it. It felt like it was building up to some sort of major final fight with Ardyn going full demon but it doesn't. It just fucking ends.

Conan said it best. Final Fantasy XV is an epic blue balls waste of time
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>>377863798
>Final boss QTE
>It's all the same fucking button

XV-Kun WILL defend this
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I've always thought Versus/15 looked like dogshit since day one. The very first trailer was literally Sasuke from Naruto killing some knights then sitting on a chair kingdom hearts style. Nomura is a hack. Tabata is a hack.

They've destroyed any little faith I had left in FF. FF16 would have to be perfect, like OoT level unanimous praise, to make me give a shit about FF in the future.
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>>377863547
Wait until you hit Chapter 9. Holy fucking shit does the quality take a nose dive fast. And once you hit Chapter 13 I swear to god you will want to just quit the game and never touch it again. Not to mention, the pacing in Chapter 9 - 14 is fucked beyond belief. Suddenly the plot goes balls deep insane and you have no time to take in everything
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Hey guys do you miss me yet?
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>>377864239
LR > XIII-2 > XV > XIII
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>>377863886
it be fair it's the finishing blow

also FFXV only had one attack button so it makes sense that crappy QTE only has one button
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Yeah, would have been nice to finally play the game in 2026
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>>377864386
I would have waited any day of the week as opposed to having to force myself through this shitshow of a game.

Tabata apologists are the worst - he might be passionate about the game, but did not deliver in any feasible way. The thing that got people hooked was Nomura's concept, not Tabata's butchered interpretation of that vision.
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>>377864302
LR>XIII>XIII2>XV more like.
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Such a boring fucking game.
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So, what would you like to see in the next FF? Will they ever return to something like the classics?
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>>377864993
a good game
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>instead of having the invasion be fully playable from Noctis and his friends POV we get a shitty CGI movie and Noctis and his friends are no where in sight

I just don't understand how one man can make so many fucking horrible decisions. I mean, the material is literally sitting right there for him all he had to do was finish it
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>>377862076
>ywn see them duel on the streets of Insomnia
Why even live?
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>>377865389
>instead you see these two fags
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>>377864302
XV is better than XIII-2 but otherwise you're right.
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>>377865746
>That could have been Noctis vs Stella
I will never stop being mad
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>>377864831
Truly pathetic. How much a down syndrome aspie do you have to be to defend this game unironically?
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>>377865746
>hobofight.webm
heh
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>>377865746
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>king of dragons
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Not really. All that ever really came from the original trailers ranged from complete cinematic bullshots to clearly over designed set pieces that would likely never be in the game. I lost interest in the original product because they never showed anything that actually felt real.

When the game actually released, I bought it used and went in without any expectations. The story was a mess and the combat was boring, but I still had a great time. The travel/roadtrip aesthetic was fantastic, the characters were generally endearing/fun, the combat (while dull) was flashy and allowed for weapon variety, and the music was good. By the end I genuinely liked the characters and really found the small moments (cooking, camping, car conversations, photography) to be awesome.

Nothing we ever got before looked real. So I kept on waiting to see what would come out, and was pleasantly surprised. The game was a mess of ideas, but still gave me plenty of enjoyment. If anything, the nice moment of playing Spira Unplugged in the car while it rains, traveling to my next destination, watching as new scenery passes by, and the guys dicking around, talking and goofing off, was really something special.
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>>377866101
That is so fucking perfect it's scary
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>>377865746
This fight was such a damn letdown
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>>377861949
I liked it. In the end v13 probably would've been shit too. And if its the biggest disappointment you ever had than you are underage.
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>>377863798
I think we all know inside, that if Nomura made it, Ardyn would have had something like 4 phases at minimum.
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>>377866916
As it should be. The best thing about Nomura games is that he goes full "THIS ISN'T EVEN MY FINAL FORM" and it's always the most hype shit
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>>377867195
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>>377863798
>>377865746
Can you imagine if Nomura goes as full retarded as Tabata did and end Kingdom Hearts 3 in a similar fashion? Build up the final battle between Sora and Xehanort and then suddenly it ends with no climatic battle.
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>>377867654
Nope
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>>377867654
Not really, even the 3ds game had like 5 bosses without breaks after the final save point.
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Why exactly did Tabata replace Stella again?
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>>377867195
>cow cloak was his final form
>not the form where he wears badass armor while sitting on a throne since he couldn't be bothered to stand and fight those he felt were beneath him
Nomura you crazy bastard.
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>>377868069
He knew XV was going to be shit and wanted to preserve and not taint one piece of Versus XIII.
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>>377868117
You wanna beat Sora, you can't just sit down. You gotta get up and moove.
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>>377861949
It's coming still
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>>377868117
you dont want the armor to move
see BBS
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>>377868069
Stella looks too determined for the role Tabata wanted, so he had to create Luna.
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>>377864302
>>377864639
LR > XIII = XV > XIII-2

I'd say XIII and XV are roughly equal overall, but for drastically different reasons. XIII-2 being good is a meme that needs to die.
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>>377865371
>said movie has exactly 1(one) good scene and despite being nearly full length does almost nothing to properly frame XV's story
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>>377861949
I don't know where I read it but someone said it was supposed to be a trilogy and the first game is just fleeing from the empire and it ends with Gladio betraying Noctis. Second game is picking up Stella and fucking up the empire and it ends with Noctis sacrafising himself. Third game you play as Stella and she also sacrafises herself, and reunites with Noctis. Als you were supposed to be able to actually control the other party members and had a full first person shooter built in for Prompto.
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>>377861949
It was probably just the same as this with more ranting about light and dark and zippers.
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>>377867195
>thinking about how batshit insane a Nomura directed Ardyn fight would be
>It would be even better since it would be made by the Tokyo team (the team that made KH1 and 2)
>tfw will never get it

Damn.
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>>377868117
>CURSED FOOOLS
Nomura knows how to do final bosses right.
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Only redeeming quality for game is that the music producer was the same chick that did legend of mana ost
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>>377865371

because he had to come in and make a bunch of half-baked ideas into something that makes sense within a couple years, anon.
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>>377869295
It hurts so fucking bad. Nomura would have had 4 different phases during the fight and concluding with Ardyn in some type of hellish demon form
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>>377869529
That explains a lot of shit he came up with, but it doesn't explain why he butchered existing ideas. Versus had a cool playable invasion, Versus had Stella. Why get rid of these, especially since the invasion wouldn't change much in the end product.
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>>377869974
>VS Ardyn
>VS Ardyn's demonic true form sitting on the throne
>VS a gigantic Ardyn after he absorbed the Astrals, warping around his body to try and get to his head
>VS depowered but desperate normal sized demon Ardyn
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>>377869974
>>377870317
We used to complain about this shit back in the day to be honest with you guys. It felt like they always had one too many phases.
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>Playing Birth by Sleep for the first time
>Terra final boss
>Terra vs Vanitas and Master Xehanort
>Terra vs Master Xehanort
>Terra's fucking armor vs Terra-Xehanort
>"Your body submits, your heart succumbs. So why does your mind resist?!"
>That fucking music that kicks in

My dick was so fucking hard. Nomura would have done XV justice
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>>377870475
Because it's stupid. But also extremely fun. It's the thing that makes no sense when you think back after you finished playing, but it's the hypest shit while you are playing. Kind of a guilty pleasure.
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You people are stupid.

Everything in that second trailer you can do in ffxv.
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When I saw this at E3 last year I lost hope in it. The combat just looked janky
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It' hurts my heart. Everytime I think of FFXV, the phrase "Fuck Tabata" comes to my mind EVERY TIME.
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What if Nomura planned everything and his final vision IS the FFXV we got, and he just escaped because he knew fans would be disappointed and left Tabata to take the blame?
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>>377870859
Why the fuck do we even know who "Haijme Tabata" is? Game developers need to make a good game first before the gaming community even recognize them by name. Dude was showing himself at every event talking and promising while we ended up the piece of shit we have now.
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>>377870859
Same. That guy was a business man with no skill in creating video games. He looks at whatever is successful and tells him team to copy it.

Can someone link the interview where the team LITERATELY fought Tabata and the suits at SE to NOT make this game an open-world? Goddamn we had signs that point out this was going to be turd all the way since 2014...
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>>377871264
He did the phone version of KH Coded, the 3d birthday, Crisis Core and Type0. He deserves high praise.
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>>377871462
The games you posted say otherwise.
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>>377871462
Joke post?

The only decent game he worked on was CC which had a lot of Square's A+ staff including Nomura on board. The rest are complete shit.
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>>377863547
There's a point at which the game becomes very linear narrative wise. They've updated the infamous thirteenth chapter to make it not absolute dogshit but even still its quite bad.

I literally just plat'd it today and I'm not gonna lie: I really enjoyed it. The combat was adequate, lots of side-quests and plenty of post game content in the form of extra dungeons and optional super bosses. All the banter from the boys really makes the game, and the vistas are incredible.

I get why people are disappointed, but the game is fine.
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>>377871438
But the worst chapters in the game were those linear as fuck train corridors.

Man
Fuck them.
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Ray Chase is a terrible low tier voice actor and he probably had a relative that got him the role for Noctis or Square was the being the cheapest mofos.
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>>377872014
ok
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>>377866380
This guy gets it.

If Versus XIII DID come out, and if it DID look just as cool as it did in those few trailers, and DID deliver on all the interesting lore and shit, then yeah, it would've been way better than XV. But the fact is that those trailers were some flashy CG cutscenes and a handful of setpiece areas that looked cool but almost certainly didn't have any through line connecting them.

People have a tendency to just fill in the blanks in their heads and assume that the whole thing would have been amazing. You can imagine whatever you want about this fantasy game that never existed because it didn't come out. Who knows, Versus could have had all the same problems XV did. It was supposed to be open world too.
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>No Chapter 3
>No Versus XIII
>Samurai Jack is forever alone

I can not handle all of these yearly dissappointments
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>>377869974
>Nomura would have had

How do you know? Have you played a finished version of Versus XIII? Did you find secret concept art of the original final boss?
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>>377871980
Zoned areas are similar to Kingdom hearts 2 or FF12 with a lot more points of interest to enjoy. That linear section was a tacked-on last min cause they just said "fuck it we already have an open-world".
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>>377872252
jesus christ how horrifying
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>>377871462
3rd Birthday was unuttetly bullshit and a fucking slap in the face. Type 0 was mediocre as fuck. Nobody played the phone version of KH Coded outside of Japan (DS remake was pretty good but Tabata didn't have shit to do with it) . Before Crisis (see KH Coded) and Crisis Core was good. So Tababta record before XV was 1 good game, 1 mediocre game, 2 Japan exclusive phone games and 1 abomination. He doesn't deserve any fucking praise at all
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>>377872413
Crisis Core was bad. So very bad.
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>>377872043
>You can imagine whatever you want about this fantasy game that never existed
The best FF game can only exist in your head. We truly became the Final Fantasy.
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>>377872321
>>377872252
>>377872139

How the fuck do you leave a multi-million dollar franchise that has the biggest die-hard fans to a person like this?
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>>377872139
Telegraphing attacks is the key element in an ActionRPG. :-S
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I'm over it OP.

I have a new obsession.
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>>377872478
CC was a good game honestly. Zack was so fucking likable
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>>377872252
That has to be fake. No game director, no matter how bad they are, could say "I want to make a game that's not a even a game, that plays itself while you mindlessly push a single button" with a straight face.
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Don't give up hope yet I have yet to play XV I hear they plan on patching the game every three months and have so far added in Episode Gladio, and Prompto is coming soon. Also hear they fixed an undone chapter and added in some cutscenes. I don't know how much longer they plan on supporting the game but i'm going to hold off until they are done.

It will never be what Vs XIII wanted to be but hopefully its fucking good by the time 2018 hits. Fucking said i'm waiting until 2018 to play a game that came out in 2016.
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>>377872413
Why did they choose him? Wasn't anyone else available?
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>>377872921
Sorry m8 but its already been 6 months since release and the game is almost the same as it was on launch.
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>>377872921
In a decade, they will slowly turn the game into Versus 13.
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>>377872921
there have been some improvements, but other shit got worse.
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>>377872952
Sadly that was the case . They literally had nobody else
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>>377872921
The game is faaaar beyond the scope of updates to fix. The mechanics themselves are broken, and Square won't bother to fix them as there isn't any revenue. It's all a cover so people won't sell the game and buy the season pass.
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XV was kino, i so i don't really care
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>>377872863
That's actually sounds pretty nice. Why didn't they just go from Nomura's notes?
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>>377872863
There is no way Nomura did not know that XV was taken from him and given to another team by 2013.

Dude was out-maneuvered by the suits at Square cause they wanted all the money from FFVII and KH3 before they got old and retired.
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>>377873493

Here is your answer:

>>377872252
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>>377872614
I like Dissidia story
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>>377873364
The entire ending sequence was incredible, I'll give you that.
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>>377872863
I want to play this game. But sadly, making it would be an open admission of failure. Maybe some part will leak into a next project. FFXVI with Nomura as director?
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I would forgive XV for all of its fucking shit if we got to explore Luna's hometown more besides talking to some random fucking kid and then hopping on the train.

I would forgive XV for all of its fucking shit if we got to explore Dark World and see how much shit has changed and not drive past everything.

They still fucked up. How the fuck do you fuck up two moments like that?

When you went to Cloud's hometown in VII shit got real

When the world got fucked in VI shit got real.

We could have experienced something like that twice over in the same game and nothing literally nothing happened.

Oh hey guys here I am after ten years lets just act like nothing happened and get back to work
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>>377873589
No way that's real. A game director saying this would get fired on the spot.
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>>377872834
Oh boy, you haven't been around Tameem, have you?
That guy literally, and I mean literally, said he doesn't care if the DMC fans didn't like his changes in DmC.
He pretty much said he diesn't care about the fans.

Bioware also made such a remaro as Tabata on DA2. "Press X, something awesome happens! X, awesome. X, awesome!"

Some devs and directors are just straight up crazy and retarded.
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>>377873929
>I would forgive XV for all of its fucking shit if we got to explore Luna's hometown more besides talking to some random fucking kid and then hopping on the train.
Luna DLC.
>I would forgive XV for all of its fucking shit if we got to explore Dark World and see how much shit has changed and not drive past everything.
Iris-Cor-Aranea DLC.
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>>377873719
I honestly doubt Nomura will have anything to do with XVI, other than design a character or two. He is too busy with KH and FF7R.
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>>377873493
It would have been near impossible to make all that a reality.
I'm not saying Nomura intentionally lied, but he massively overestimated what could be achieved. He's the japanese Molyneaux.
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>>377874026
To be fair, only relying on fan demand can strangle a frachise to death. DmC was retarded though.
I guess it sadly makes sense, as the younger generations have less and less attention span. The 'push a button for quick entertaintment' probably sells better then actual gameplay.
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>>377868117
Sora had it easy with him sitting down.
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I don't care about that, all I want is for SE to release the remaining episodes and then those other updates that will "change how the game will be played" as well as the future ones.

And then, one year from now or maybe longer, I'll finally decide whether I will buy this game or not.
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>>377872863
I remember this.
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>>377873719
You mean, like, the Final Fantasy VII Remake?
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>>377861949

Nah, not really. I kind of had my butt hurt moment back when they fucked up XII but X-2, A.C and FF XIII reassured me that wasn't a mistake, it was just the new way SE was going to do things.

So i never had any faith on XV to begin with despise versus looking awesome. I knew better than believing in Ondore's lies.
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>>377875162
>that first response

I feel so fucking bad for Nomura. Square puts so much shit on his plate and overwork the shit out of him. All he wants to do is rest and live out his life a little because he's not young anymore
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>Gladio dlc lets us know how he got the scar
>Prompto dlc lets us know what happened after he fell off the traun
>Ignis dlc lets us know what happened during the Leviathan fight
>Luna dlc lets us know what her hometown was like and makes us care about her more
>Dark World dlc lets us play as Iris-Cor-Aranea and we can randomly see Ignis-Prompto-Gladio in different areas all seperated from one another because they all went solo.
>They also plan on adding multiplayer
>They also will make Insomnia more explorable and give us a optional mega boss the CEO of Square-Eniz himself is a boss
>They will also patch in other shit to the main game and continue to add cutscenes so shit will make more sense


XV will be great around this time next year, only retards have made their final judgement because they didn't wait on the FFXV COMPLETE 2.0 GOTY VS EDITION
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>>377876039
FFXV will be an MMO this time next year, and it'll still be shit.
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No because current square enix is all about half assing products, so it would still be mediocre like all FF games in the last 10 years.
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>>377872481
>We truly became the Final Fantasy.
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>>377876039
>Wait five years to get the final title of the game
>Wait another two to get the final director
>Wait another two to get it released
>Wait another two to get all the DLC and patches
>Wait another seven to get the definitive version that finally is playable
T-thanks Square.
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>>377861949
What is the easiest RPG video game there is?


I am looking for RPG games that do not have any difficulty, without any challenge and that are totally direct and without obstacles
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>>377876368
You know it's they are full of crap when the best they can give you now is a re-release of 12.
Man can't for the piece meal delivery of Episodes of FF7 coming 2025.
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>>377863886
>complaining about QTEs
>in a Final Fantasy game
at least this one didn't have an option to literally play itself
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>>377876821
Kingslaive. You play with the Play button. According to the manual, you hit the Play button once, and watch the cutscene. If you want, you can push other buttons, but only if they are not connected to the machine playing the game. Hit the Pause button if the gameplay is too hectic and you need a refreshment.
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>>377877020
Have you tried holding circle?
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>>377876821
XV is pretty easy. You can phase through 95% of attacks and you don't have to learn combos or anything because they don't exist.
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>>377868284
That is never going to happen
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Can't believe you're not allowed to fuck Cidney or Gladious sister.

Oh and the car ride banter was written by someone with zero contact with the outside world. I miss versus 13
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>>377877240
>Cidney
who
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How come nobody is talking about that time Nomura pitched rewriting FFXV as a musical before getting replaced by Tabata?
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>>377877130
thing is, they do exist

they're just pointless to care about
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>>377876821
Mystic Quest was specifically made for retards.
Try that, it has the bare minimum of an rpg in it.
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>>377877064
>>377877130


I'm actually looking for something a lot easier.

Without exploration. Without difficulty, without having to level up, that a RPG's very direct, without combats by turns, without difficulty. And that is super easy to overcome
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>>377877240
>Can't believe you're not allowed to fuck Cidney or Gladious sister.
>Trying to that in a Final Fantasy game

No shit
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>>377861949
Nah. At this point, I'm over it. I won't be buying any more FFs for more than 20 dollars until SE releases 3 amazing FF games in a row.
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>>377867654
He wouldn't betray the fans.
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>>377877331
I bought this one for $20. It was worth that.

KH3 is going to be the real puzzler.
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>>377877287
Dragon Quest Builders or a Musuo
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>>377868847
He died for nothing .Too bad that he was the only good character.
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>>377872952
It was him or Toriyama. Choose your poison.
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>>377868847
why the fuck were the kings such assholes anyway?

If anything that's even more proof that Ardyn was right
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>>377877525
They have to be RPG's even easier
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The company is so backwards that the director doesn't matter anymore, someone is going to make a stupid decision.
I'm surprised Nier Automata escaped intact, probably because the budget was so tiny and everyone was afraid to talk to the Director while staring at his mask.
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>>377877792
Automata escaped because SE had almost nothing to do with it. It was developed out of house.
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>>377877792
Its because they thought it was going to be a flop to begin with. The only reason he was allowed to make the game is the Dragon Quest Director said he wouldn't do another Dragon Quest before he got to work with Taro again.

They pretty much considered NieR Automata a game that they just needed to produce to make the game they really wanted to make. It doing well surprised pretty much everyone.
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>>377877240
Iris is 15.
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>>377861949
>Goddamn it still hurts so fucking bad. Final Fantasy XV was the biggest disappointment I ever had playing a video game.

This 100%
This game made me so depressed because it just felt uninspired even after all of that goddamned time. Maybe if it hadn't been delayed so many times I would be able to appreciate it more but playing it felt like they missed the mark horribly. I didn't even have it in me to finish it. Just watched the rest of the game on YouTube and saved myself the time.
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>>377874107
>buy the DLC goyim
fuck off
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>>377878268
BUY MY DLC
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Cor was the best character in this game and he literally got 15 minutes. Fuck this game and fuck all of the boring main characters.
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>>377877268
That would have been hilarious. Could Yoko Shimomura pull it off? But he probably said that when he knew he was going to be replaced.
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I don't understand. Insomnia and Leide are shown, in-game, to not even be that far away. I'm supposed to believe the King's car breaks down literally 20 minutes away from Insomnia? I'm also supposed to believe Luna crossed that entire bridge peacefully, in fucking heels, without even the slightest attempt by the empire to capture her? Also she's not even wearing the same outfit from Kingsglaive when she escapes from Insomnia.
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>>377878268
This. If you want me to buy the DLC, you had better wow me so much with the game that I need more. If I'm underwhelmed, the DLC can fuck right off, no matter how good it supposedly is (if it was that good, they should have included it with the game to make it less of a bore).
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>>377875303
>>377875621
Magic looks so much better here it's not even funny
Why did they change it to magic grenades with fancy effects?
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>>377877287
Tabata go home and retire. You won't get inspiration here.
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>>377877673
Toriyama at least would have kept Stella. She might get pink hair and gets replaced by Lightning later though.
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>>377877287
Try Crazy Bus. Sounds right up your alley.
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>>377877460
I gues this will be the test. If KH 3 ends up being great, we can conclude Versus would have been great too.
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>>377878349
https://www.khinsider.com/news/Nomura-Shimomura-Joint-Interview-for-KH-Orchestra-8752
>Are there any other KINGDOM HEARTS concerts you'd like to see come true?
>TN: Rock.
>YS: Rock!? With a band? Were'nt you saying before that you wanted a musical?
>TN: A while ago. When I watched the movie Les Miserables, I thought, "We should do a musical!" But I wanted to incorporate it into a game, not an on-stage production.
>YS: There was a musical number in KINGDOM HEARTS II. That was rough.
>TN: In Atlantica. But that was a music game. I wanted a musical cutscene.
>YS: Thank goodness that never happened... (laughs)
>TN: Well, I was watching a show the other day, and it had a musical number. It made me want to create a musical, a production where everyone bursts into song.
>YS: No...
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>>377878574
I haven't played any KH since 2. Will I feel like I've missed a lot in KH3?
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>>377878365
Kingsglaive was a mistake.

A beautifully rendered mistake
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>>377878653
Yes... like 80% of the story.
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>>377878689
Ah. Then I guess I won't be playing it. I tried the KH2 mix thing that they had on the PS3, but I hated the combat, so I just dropped it. Thank god it was a rental.
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>>377878653
Read a summary, all the inbetween are a bit ass to be honest
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>>377878748
>I tried the KH2 mix thing that they had on the PS3, but I hated the combat
Hating KH2FM's combat is a cardinal sin.
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>>377878940
Not KH2, but the other game that came with it, where you play as 3 different characters. KH2 was great.
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>>377878748
>I tried the KH2 mix thing that they had on the PS3, but I hated the combat
how
I get hating everything else about the game, but how can one hate KH2FM+'s combat
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>>377879052
Read >>377879009
I think it was Birth By Sleep.
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>>377879229
Oh, okay then.
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>>377879229
Well, yeah BBS was shit. They at least redeemed themselves with 0.2.
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>>377879425
>>377879443
Well, hopefully KH3 won't follow that game's combat.
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>>377879801
That's a handheld game

no way is KH3 going to play like that
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>>377879801
Yeah, hopefully they learned enough about what works and don't shit the bed with the new mechanics.
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>>377878681
The last 20 minutes of Kingsglaive and the Omen trailer are the best things to come out of the XV project. Kingsglaive as a whole was shit, and pretending that it's even in the same universe as XV is laughable with all it's inconsistencies, but it still somehow managed to be more entertaining than XV.
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>>377879801
From what we saw so far, KH3's combat will be a natural evolution of KH2's combat.
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so what are you guys gonna put in this so called survey update when it comes out?
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Apparently the survey for future updates is now live.
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>>377880361
Forgot my pic.
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>>377880347
i already voted for more Cor.
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>>377880147
I haven't played 0.2, are the normal attacks less sluggish now like they were in BBS and DDD?
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>>377880347
They should allocate all resources to XVI so that we don't have to wait another ten fucking years.
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>>377880447
yes
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>>377880447
They had to patch a bit for that. I remember on release Aqua's block was as slow as fucking molasses.
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>>377880447
inbetween, Aqua still feels wrong to play.
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>>377880361
Who cares? None of that will make the game good. At best, it will just be "less bad."
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>>377880430
What the fuck? All of these should be part of the base game.
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>>377880430
So many options that I kind of want to see.
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>tfw every SE game from now on will suck because they don't know what the fuck they want in a game due to poor management

If KH3 and FF7R end up taking 4-5 more years, good riddance.
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>>377879801
The combat for 0.2 is definitely an improvement over the handhelds, but what I'm most worried about are the boss battles. The secret boss in 0.2 was a step in the right direction though so hopefully they keep it up
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>>377861949
Nomura had shit tons of time to finish this game. He didn't have a "true vision" about this game.
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Pls no
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>>377880430
LMAO is this real? Are they essentially acknowledging how much shit was left out of the game? What happened to not seeing everything because you play as Noctis and the bros? How vision-less can you be, Tabata?
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>>377880871
What is 0.2? Do you mean Kingdom Hearts 2?
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Where do we find the survey?
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>>377881026
Yeah it's real.
>>377881046
No he doesn't. BbS 0.2 is a KH3 like demo included in Kingdom Hearts 2.8. It stars Aqua.
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>>377881117
Ah. Ok.
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>>377881090
It's in game.
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>>377878007
>>377861949

Jesus you guys are dramatic. I guess I just had really low expectations? I really liked it. Obviously not perfect, but the combat was cool, I really liked the four main characters, and I overall had a lot more fun than the past few FFs I've played.

fyi my favorite FFs are VI, V, and VII
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What happened to the Tokyo/Osaka team meme? How did KH3: Ground Zeroes have better boss fights than FFXV?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3hJyPxdegxg
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>>377881362
Osaka team are learning from their mistakes?
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>>377881362
Shit director.
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>>377881362
The only explanation would be that Nomura has a lot more input on even mechanics, than most thought.
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>>377881571
http://www.novacrystallis.com/2017/02/yoshinori-kitase-talks-final-fantasy-vii-remake-progress/
>Currently the base of the battle system has been solidified. Kitase confirms both Nomura and Mitsunori Takahashi, who worked on the Kingdom Hearts and Dissidia Final Fantasy series, are putting their best into it. Although he can’t say much at the moment, he also stresses they won’t be removing any parts of the original FFVII that were well received, such as the Materia system.
Really makes you think
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>>377880430
>tfw noone but myself will vote for improved Armiger
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