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Ok, so I bought Overmeme yesterday. Give me some heads up advice

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Ok, so I bought Overmeme yesterday. Give me some heads up advice or shit along those lines for a new guy.
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Hang yourself
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>overshit
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>>377852761
Fuck off
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Find some friends to play with
Mute everyone else
Never ever try reasoning with members of the OW community
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Just play quick matches. Don't bother with the competitive gameplay modes. It's just full of even bigger babies
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>>377852945
>>377852995
I'll take it into consideration.
>>377852963
I know.
>>377853049
>>377853324
Already have that planned. Have plenty of bros to play with and I wasn't planning on messing with rank and shit.
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>>377852761
Do the tutorials

Try out every character. You don't need to be good with them, but at least be aware of what they can do so you don't do something stupid like trying to shoot with Reinhardt

Try to get at least competent with at least one character of every class type. No point only being good with one character if someone else chooses them or the team needs more tanks or something.

Just keep playing the game while doing all of this and you should be good.
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>>377852761
For gods sake, play the objective. Don't stand around trying to get the most kills and then wonder why you lost the match while your payload gathers dust in the corner
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>>377853852
So far I've experimented with Tracer, Roadhog, Lucio, and Mcree. >>377853910
Yeah, I get that vibe a lot. I usually stick around the payload and flank around using Tracer when my team is kinda stuck by the defense.
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>>377852761
Filthy dumb "gamer" scum. Go to your containment general.
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>>377854763
I'd give soldier 76 a shot too, pretty much the "simplest" character since most people are used to that type of fps gameplay. He's extremely powerful when used well and easy to get the hang of
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>>377854763
Not a bad line up, I'd recommend trying out defence characters to round yourself out. I get the feeling you might like Junkrat, but try them all out and see what clicks with you
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>>377855913
Prey much this. You might surprise yourself with who you might like playing. I have about 100 hours and just picked up Hanzo, and he's pretty fun.
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>>377852761
Exclusively play Hanzo and Genji, never switch no matter what.
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>>377852761
post your battletag
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>>377852761
Learn proper positioning for your role.
Treat others kindly.
By the love of God, do NOT pick Junkrat or Torbjorn. Or Hanzo if you are defending.
Also love and take proper care of Angela.
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>>377857813
Torb and Hanzo I can understand, but what's wrong with Junkrat? He's useful for clearing out small rooms and hallways, at least. Plus he's useful on king of the kill type maps where you just litter the floor with bombs and fuck with people who try to stand on the objective
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>>377852761
Just know that McCree is fun if you can aim and Mei is best girl
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>>377857970
but what's wrong with Junkrat?

Does absolutely nothing that another character cannot do better as well as having the absolute worse ult of the entire cast.
And when you play with someone who uses it you immediately know you are playing with someone who was no idea about balanced teams and picking the right character for the right situation.
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>>377852761
Pharamercy is worst couple.

Anahardt is best couple.
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>>377858561
Agreed
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>>377858514
To me that just sounds like "the current meta states that-" since I've heard this argument for about 5 or 6 characters now. A lot of the characters are pretty specialised, it's highly unlikely that 20% of them are redundant because they overlap with other characters.

Fine, let's put it to the test. Name some characters that can do Junkrat's job but better.

Junkrat's ult honestly isn't that bad, as long as you're not just wheeling it in a straight line towards people. Take advantage of the fact that it can climb walls, its great for taking out sniper nests or ambushing people
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>>377858514
Furthermore, the only argument a person has when asked to switch out for a more consistent and useful character is "I'm good at him, trust me. If I don't do well, I'll switch". He won't.
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>>377855913
Was thinking of either him or Widow, but a mobile and aggressive one.
>>377856178
Noted.
>>377856994
Kek, but no.
>>377857315
You serious?
>>377857813
Yeah, I usually make sure my healers aren't being fucked over. But noted.
>>377858360
Getting used to the aim.
>>377858561
?
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>>377852761
have good aim

don't be a crybaby
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I have the most fun with Roadhog and Soldier, since they're pretty straightforward.

But Lucio, Mcree, and Tracer are pretty fun too.
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>>377853049
This OP, find someone for duo or better trio and play comp, but don't get mad when losing, the system is revolved around forcing a 50% winrate.
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>playing a game thats made for autistic women and children who can''t handle the real shit
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>>377858967
Basically my friend, Ana and Reinhardt is adorable couple because they're a cute old couple.

Pharha and Mercy are the forced lesbian couple that fans go nuts over like Harley Quinn and Poison Ivy or Princess Bubblegum and Marceline from Adventure Time even thought they lack the chemistry.
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>>377852761
Characters say different things when they use their ults, depending on whether or not they're on your team. So generally speaking if you hear something in a foreign language something bad is about to happen
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>>377858829
What job? Throwing explosive shit at people? Pharah, and she also has infinite more mobility, flanking ability and an actual you can combine with Ana, Reinhardt, Mei or Zarya.

Taking down barriers? Anyone who can output damage. Bastion, Pharah, Hog, Soldier. They are infinitely more useful as well as consistent at what they can do.

Disrupt a fortified position? Winston, combined with Zarya and Zen will allow you to disrupt as well as keep the pace of the attack.

Junkrat is not only useless compared to other characters, but also he's extremely fragile and can be taken down simply by avoiding his incredibly slow grenades.
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>>377857813
What's wrong with picking Hanzo? I understand that he gets a lot of shit thanks to retarded Hanzo "mains", that can't even walk straight but if you actually manage to get good with him, he's quite fun and effective. Not a pick for every situation, but I wouldn't dismiss him so easily, especially if we're only talking QP here.
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It's shit.
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>>377852761
return it
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>>377857813
>tells people not to pick dead weight
>encourages Mercy

lmao
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>>377852761
Don't play Geni till you know how to play the game or get ready to be cussed out by neckbeards.
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>>377859634
Nothing, but he's not the optimal choice if you are defending, that's all.
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>>377859563
Junkrat is mostly for area denial with his grenades and traps, plus the fact that he can lob grenades makes it possible for him to shoot around corners, up through windows, or behind cover. Pharah relies on line of sight and and she's typically shot out of the air by Widowmakers instantly.

Junkrat can lob shots behind barriers. Why bother breaking them if you can go around them? Most characters who can shoot through shields aren't designed for actual damage. There are exceptions of course, like a full charge Zarya, but it's honestly easier to just shoot over or around the shield and let your grenades bounce into position

Junkrat can be just as good at disrupting a fortified position, since he doesn't need to be in the enemy's firing range to do so. Again, he can shoot from cover or angles the enemy can't so they're forced to leave their position to retaliate. Besides, your example requires HALF A TEAM to do a job Junkrat could do by himself
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>>377854763
Another tip don't bother learning Defense heroes, they all pretty much suck ass.
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>>377860331
Except Mei.
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>>377860690
Mie is just an annoying ugly cunt ruining the game for everyone.
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>>377855776
solider mains from tf2 will feel at home with phara although weaker in comparison
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>>377852761
Sell account
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>>377860029
>plus the fact that he can lob grenades makes it possible for him to shoot around corners, up through windows, or behind cover.

Exactly. While the rest of the team is trying to pick significant targets, a Junkrat player is just LOL I DONT NEED TO SEE WHAT IM DOING, SO IM DOING RIGHT.

>Junkrat can lob shots behind barriers. Why bother breaking them if you can go around them?
Seriously? Why take down a wall that prevents like 2000 damage and just shoot grenades that can be avoided ridiculously easy? This is what I was saying before. Junkrat mains and heavy users have no situational awareness whatsoever.

>your example requires HALF A TEAM to do a job Junkrat could do by himself
Half a team that can do infinitely more things than Junkrat. Winston, for example, can take down flankers, healers and be a pain in the ass for the front line. Junkrat can hardly do shit when combined with Zarya and Zen as I mentioned in the example with the added
that can be melted easily by any range attacker.

Also, at the level you see Junkrat (platinum and below), Widows are not good enough to take down Pharah, let alone a Pharmercy combo. As you go higher you see less Junkrats and they are generally thrown shit at.
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>>377860912
If you suck, maybe.
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>>377860912
My main issue with Mei is the Cryofreeze, it's annoying seeing her pop it, heal, and become invincible while she's doing it. I'd like if it it didn't heal her that much to compensate for the invincibility or something
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>>377861147
she sucks the fun out of the game either way.
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>>377860912
Mei players are the only ones having fun
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>>377861096
Don't forget that junkrat just feeds the enemy healers' ultis 99% of the time making him a huge detriment.
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>>377858360
I just can't believe how cute she looks on the new skin. I want to start using her just to rock it out.
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>>377861464
I love how I can almost indefinitely stall a payload against shit teams as a Mei. Same goes with Lucio
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>>377861719
Does that mean a full team of Mei could make a game drag on forever? I'm kind of annoyed that Blizarrd removed the ability to pick multiples of the same hero bar certain game modes. Personally I thought it was fun. I remember times when edgelords would always instalock in Reaper, so I would too. Now half the team is Reaper and sometimes everyone else would decide to be him too. Now we have 6 Reapers running around doing shit, it was pretty fun.
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>>377861948
yes, by simply ice walling all the exits to spawn
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>>377862615
They're breakable though, aren't they? Plus some spawn exits aren't reachable for Mei
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>>377852761
Learn how to play at least one of each class, except defense they're mostly shit, maybe learn mei shes sometimes useful but barely and widow in the off chance she gets a decent buff (dont bet on it). Group up always dont just rush in.
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just masturbate to the girls
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>>377852761
Skills that block or deflect projectiles usually only work for physical projectiles. So they'll work on bullets or ninja stars but not on energy balls or lightning.

If you go into your settings you can see that you can customise controls and settings for each individual hero. The ones marked with a * have unique settings, try mess with them and see what you prefer.For example, if you're capable of healing then activating "Show allied health bars" is a good idea.
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New 3v3 is such shit, fuck off
>your ebin ledditor team(((mate))) was afk as Ana for the entirety of Round 1? CAN'T PLAY HER UNTIL THE END OF THE MATCH ;^)

1v1 manages to be even more braindead, fuck this.
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>>377863447
>1v1
>You're both Symmetra
>"Hey come to me I have no turrets promise :-)"
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>>377863869
Now it's somehow even more stupid because the "choice" is something stupid like Reaper, Junkrat or Roadhog and the pool seems even more limited than old 1v1.
Let us not mention "Stalemate the Flag", also.
They did it, they fucked the arcade so people would pay for boxes.
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>>377852761
shoot the eninmies until they die
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>solo enemy d.va
>as mercy
bronze is a wild place
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>>377858514
If you know how to play junk, he can most certainly do things better than other characters, that goes for holding chokes, capture points, 1v1's and teamfights, most players are too influenced by watching bad players on him and base their judgement off that.

just take this for example
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwHjXBzBYMQ
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>>377859157
LMFAO
ur bad
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>>377864929
Yes, okay, I believe you.
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>>377865078
>everyone uses all the same heroes all the time in high ranks
how is that even fun? is that why people get jaded and start saying "every game is the same"?
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>>377865364
>I'm gonna pick a useless character because winning is boring

Do the world a favor and stay on quick play.
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>>377852761
Get a friend or two and get to diamond (highest emblem you can keep when you drop) and tank your SR down to sub 700. Have fun getting 80 kills a game and farming golden gun points. When you get to high just start throwing again. Repeat every season
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>>377865583
why bother playing at all if it's not fun though? like what's the point if you already know exactly what the enemy team will be and where they will go and what they will do?
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>>377861096
>>377865078
Alright then, I'll focus on this reply you made to the other guy.

>a Junkrat player is just LOL I DONT NEED TO SEE WHAT IM DOING, SO IM DOING RIGHT.

Wrong. Thats a Bronze - Plat Junrat player, with good situational awareness you would know what walls or ceilings to bounce off to hit a specific target, as you can peek at a situation, return to cover and arc bombs where you know it will hit them, thats not random bombs, that's calculation.

>Junkrat mains and heavy users have no situational awareness whatsoever.

Same as previous point, you can choose, depending on the situation and said players awareness and game knowledge to break a sheild or try and aim behind it, hell you can even concussion bomb yourself over it, get behind in their face and; in the essence of the character: cause mayhem.

>Half a team that can do infinitely more things than Junkrat. Winston, for example, can take down flankers, healers and be a pain in the ass for the front line

Junkrat can take out flankers and healers with equal ease to Winston, same way Winston can leap to a Widow, Junk can concussion mine.

Junkrat is heavy utility, a well placed trap can be the invaluable difference between a lost or won teamfight, or preventing a flank.

This is how I see it; Junkrat's core gameplay at higher levels is psychological: He has the potential to deal the highest burst damage in the game, you have to be wary of trap constantly and the stress of a tire you can't see can cause an enemy team to panic mid fight. He is what his passive is called "Total Mayhem" because he disrupts enemy team compositions completely, if you understand the hero well, he is not made for simply spamming chokes with no aim, he can be played with precison and purpose.
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>>377852761
>he bought OverCuck
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>>377865709
I have fun by winning or being competitive.
There's a pool of 20something character in which Junkrat is one of the worst, if not the worst.
If you have fun by picking a character that puts your team on disadvantage (in a team based game), good for you.
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>>377864902

Teach me your ways. I like playing Mercy in qp but nobody gives a shit about flankers
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>>377864254
CtF has such and easy fix. They just need to make the last team to cap the flag the winner. This completely prevents people from turtling after one cap. Also, for God's sake, there has to be a way to find better stuff in custom games than raid bosses and no cooldowns.
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>>377866231
You make it sound like if Junkrat was some kind of mobility god when you can only reach the exact same places than every other character. And, again, if you don't see your target, you are shooting blindly no matter the amount of calculation.

>hell you can even concussion bomb yourself over it, get behind in their face and; in the essence of the character: cause mayhem.

Holy shit, this is some serious low gold talking here. Go on a serious team and tell them "fuck Winston and his 4 seconds CD leap, protective shield and his weapon with low dps but high spread; fuck initiating with Dva and her high health, high mobility and defense matrix that negates almost all types of damage. I'll leap with Junkrat, his good sized hotbox, 200hp and 1 grenade per second to CAUSE MAYHEM!". Or at least insinuate that you're going to do a better job than Tracer or Genji on taking down supports. The only """psychological"" influence you will have is the opposite team laughing at your suicide and wondering what the hell were you thinking.

Sorry but I can't be bothered to check if there's something else worth replying. This is more than enough to me.
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>>377866395
i dont play junkrat though
/v/ isn't you and one other person
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>>377867637
I was having a discussion with another guy about a character in particular and you quoted me. /v/ is more than the two of us, but we are all anonymous.
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>>377867593
>You make it sound like if Junkrat was some kind of mobility god when you can only reach the exact same places than every other character.
Don't forget you can double mine jump.

> if you don't see your target, you are shooting blindly no matter the amount of calculation.
You're not shooting blindly if you know they have to be there, such as an entrance to a CP on overtime, or a Payload in a choke. If you go back behind a cover and know someone is retreating too, you are obviously going to aim an arc to their area of retreat.

>I'll leap with Junkrat, his good sized hotbox, 200hp and 1 grenade per second

It was just an example dude, we're not acutally in a game here, don't be ignorant to the fact that Blizzard made 24 heroes to be played however the players so wish.

See you just did the typical thing of breaking apart a pointless part of my reply, if you're going to resond, respond to the actual arguments.

Just because you have personal biases against the hero, don't go advising players against playing him. Because you clearly have no comprehension of his actual potential in good hands and a team that doesn't flame him, yet picks advantageous heroes around him.
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>>377868434
Nah, it's okay. It's almost 5am and I need to get some sleep. If you say Junkrat is somehow more effective at anything than other heroes, he is, you win. Just keep your word and switch out if you promise your team you will.
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>yesterday
was the sale even on yesterday? didnt it just hit 6 - 8 hours ago
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>>377869071
Well don't worry I am a flexible picker, I'm just saying he wouldnt be in the game if he didn't have genuine advantages to a team, especially on CP maps like Lijang tower.
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>>377865631
cancer
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>>377852761
play quickplay to have fun

play ranked to try hard
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>>377857970
Junk rat is way worse than torb and hanzo in nearly any situation. The worst hero in the game by far
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>>377852761
When playing Mercy you can hold down space to float.

I've seen a lot of players not get this. Even ones that have 30+ hours
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