It's time to realize that 343 understands Halo better than

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I too enjoy the improvement 343 has made to the franchise

>>377821676
You're trying to say customization is bad?

>>377820823
hahahaha

>>377821853
not an argument

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>>377820823
Try harder.
>>377821763
It is when it looks like dogshit, which is pretty much all he armor in game.

>>377821676
Why did you fucking reply

>>377821925
That's subjective and not a strong point against the 343 games

Keep saying this as sales and player counts fall with each new release
The consumers are wrong!

>>377822016
>The consumers are wrong!
That's nothing new

The only halfway decent stuff to come out of 343 managing halo is the stuff they handed off to subcontractors. Everything they make on their own is garbage at best.

>>377822110
I'm joking, if people aren't buying it it's because it's shit
I'll stick to the old halos thanks, which are actually fun

>>377822251
>if people aren't buying it it's because it's shit
No, what world are you living in? If people aren't buying something that means it isn't properly marketed. Quality does not reflect sales, you saw that with ODST and Reach

>>377822394
What about the player numbers which bombed faster (by a large margin) than the bungie games then? You may like the new halos and there is nothing wrong with that, but clearly they have lost the market that appealed to prior halo fans. I don't like it and it's clear i'm not alone.

>>377822764
The Halo 5 MP was better than any previous Halo's and was touted as such, I don't think that many people dislike the new Halo games at all

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>they actually made Master Chief someone to care about for example

This would be like if the new DOOM tried to make the player empathize and understand the Doom Marine.

Just shut the fuck up. MC is a vessel, and if people care about him, it should only be because he's a silent juggernaut who makes aliens shit their pants. Not because he's a REAL HUMAN BEAN with muh emotions.

Faggot.

>>377822958
Stay delusional and deny that people have other opinions then. It's really clear that most people don't like 343 or halo 5 bar a small community, especially considering they won't even release play numbers anymore.

>>377821997
Here. Just watch one of the hundreds of Halo 5 Analysis videos that rip the game to shreds yourself. No one here is autistic enough to sit down and argue with you about an objectively awful game. If you like this shit and 343i's mind-numbingly stupid direction with the series, then that's fine. You're a minority though, and you should stop trying to force garbage down people's throats. Not everyone has low standards like you. If the 343 games were good, then community reception would reflect that, but the community is now almost non-existent and anyone left acknowledges the hard fuck ups done by 343i.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vyV8X_piSUI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qfx9eoB-88
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rwwyb_5jJHc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PWzBXsiNwsQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=itYjIGo33zo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MrjwFHV8xk8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xXjDBvvuInE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBZeHRvoIV8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wVHqrH-_LAw

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>>377820823
bait harder nigga

>>377823148
THISSSS.

Into my heart on air that kills
From yon far country blows:
What are those blue remembered hills,
What spires, what farms are those?

That is the land of lost content,
I see it shining plain,
The happy highways where I went
And cannot come again.

You loved halo as a kid. You got older and it didn't. Let it go.

>>377823196
>angryjoe
>crowbcat
Everyone agrees 5's launch was awful but it's much, much better now. I'd honestly say that current Halo 5 is objectively top 3 in terms of multiplayer.

>>377820823
is today opposite day?

Hai guyzz. do yuo thinmk curtana will kill chief and gud guyz or masybe make ssex with ?

>>377822394
they rode the wave created by halo 2 and halo 3, the brand actually meant something back then

>>377821676
This shows everything thats wrong with halo in one picture. The whole "sporty" look they painted on is horseshit.

>>377823196
Halo 5 is literally the best Arena FPS of the last two generations tho!

>>377823196
>why Halo 5 story sucks

lol who cares? No arguments here, but remember that the story fell off the deep end with 2, so...

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>>377824854

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>>377824672
Some of the armor looks good though.

>>377825079
okay. I mean, we'll see once UT and Quake Champs gets released, yeah?

>>377823148
>This would be like if the new DOOM tried to make the player empathize and understand the Doom Marine.
they totally did that, though, he had no voiced dialogue or anything, but he acted through gestures in cutscenes, you could always tell when he was pissed at something or when he was really angry about something or whenever he got mad at something

>>377825189
I don't understand why all the visors have a hexagon mesh. Why are hexagons so popular in sci-fi?

>>377825393
they provide excellent stability

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>>377825393
>Why are hexagons so popular in the Halo Series?
FTFY

>>377825189
>12 of these are brought back from non-343i Halo games

>>377825393
https://physics.stackexchange.com/questions/168638/why-is-a-hexagon-such-a-stable-shape-for-materials

>>377820823
Halo 5 MP was a step forward but campaign was a step down
nobody wants a squad based shooter when they buy halo, especially with how bad the AI was

>>377820823
Halo trilogy era (2001-2007) no, post Halo trilogy era (2009-present) yes.

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>there are people on /v/ that legitimately believe 343 did a good job with Halo

>>377821763
Yes

>>377825189
I really hate the sporty sterile look that halo has had since 4

>>377826251
I don't believe they did a good enough job but i do believe they've been improving.

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>>377820823
>4 was a masterpiece
>5 was even better

I'm going to just hope this is bait

>>377825501

hexagons were something the aliens used, 343 puts it on everything to make it look more detailed and busy because theyre hacks

>>377826743
4 was garbage, but he's right when he says Halo 5 is better. The multiplayer is the best in the series

>>377826543
>but i do believe they've been improving
I don't really see how they possibly can still save the story

>>377826543
>dude theyre improving a little bit every 3 years or so lmao

Are you really going to wait 15- 20 years for that one halo game that might be good?

Just drop it and do something better with your life instead of shilling for a company

>>377825330
Whenever he did show emotion, it was pure, blind rage. That's all he was. There wasn't a cutscene where he meets his AI waifu or where he contemplates his humanity or where he questions the humanity's origins. Fuck that gay shit, kill aliens.

>>377826898
>The multiplayer is the best in the series
Ugh it's fucking CoD with a Halo skin.

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>>377826869
>alien

>>377826898
Why the fuck do people always say this? The multplayer is cancerous garbage with all the advanced mobility and aim-down-sights trash.

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I used to be a die hard halo fan since CE released
I bought every halo on launch day, took days off school for it
Got all the achievements for Halo 3, Reach, ODST, Reach, Halo Wars, 4, and most of them for MCC
I have at least 2000 hours in Halo 3
However, I couldn't even bring myself to finish Halo 5, I quit the campaign half way through and played the online for like maybe 15 hours, absolute shit, halo is dead

>>377827192

>covenant
whatever

thats a brute shield also

>>377825468
>>377825683
Neat, that's interesting. I still find it strange that they'd go from the clear, reflective visor to a non-reflective, hexagon mesh one. I generally have issues with 343's art direction as a whole.

>>377827192
The bubble shield is reverse engineered from forerunner technology.

>>377827317
Not him but the Bubble Shield was created by the UNSC, Brutes just stole it.

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>>377820823
nigger are you fucking high?

>>377822394
If you keep selling shit burgers and market them as real burgers then maybe the first couple times people are going to think that you made a mistake, but if you keep doing it people are going to learn that your burgers taste like shit because you used shit instead of meat on purpose.

>>377826917
Well i'm mostly a MP guy but yeah, i can't see the story being save without a reboot or major retcon.

>>377827097
Eh it's already on H3 levels IMO, if they build H6 from what they got right now and don't fuck it up (removing sprint would also be nice) i can see it being the best Halo MP ever.


>>377827162
>Ugh it's fucking CoD
There it is, the perfect argument to know you're full of shit.

>>377827192
>>377827343
Also, that pic is actually of the Covenants version.
The UNSC created the drop shield from Reach from forerunner tech

>>377827343
>>377827432

then why is it exclusively used by the brutes

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>>377827317
>>377827343
Both the bubble shield and drop shield are human tech.

>>377827601
Because the Covenant nicked it from ONI.
Also it's used by the UNSC in Halo: Reach.

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>>377826869

>>377827848
Not Bungie
Also where are the hexagons

>>377827440
>not shooting at the obvious weak spots
Shame on you anon.

I just want classic Halo gameplay and aesthetics but 343 will never deliver that because for some reason they want to make a franchise they didn't create their own

>>377827601
Because the Covenant stole it. Why can't you use them in ODST? Because that's when Bungie became retarded.

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>>377827964
Undersuit.
Bungie era, when they approved everything-Halo.

>>377828115
Actually they wanted to make a Halo game that looked and played like Halo but Microsoft felt their vertical slice looked and played too much like Halo and wanted them to add some wow factor, so if you really want to blame someone, blame Microsoft. It took until 2016 for them to get their shit together since that's when Phil Spencer fully took over and the Don Mattrick era was fully over.

>>377828115
They literally outsource work to other companies and don't bother the screening or vetting.

>>377820823
are you stupid? 343 decided to pander to normies and the codbabies and threw away everything that made Halo, Halo

>>377828442
>it's Microsoft's fault that Halo is different
>Gears of War 4 remains faithful to the original games and even has LAN support
Pretty sure 343 just has no balls

>>377821676
Why is 343 so fucking bad? It's like they took inspiration from mecha anime and Western space marine stuff but only used the bad stuff and none of the good.

>>377828738
>gears 4, a game that came out after all of the backlash halo 4 & 5 received

>>377825330
It was mostly up to imagination though. I like to imagine what DOOMguy was like before he got tricked by the demons and the moment he completely snapped but I don't think that should be part of the game.

>>377821676
Nothing wrong with tutti-fruity color schemes per se, that goes all the way back to Marathon.
The execution is ass.

>>377821763
Never said that, friendo. In fact, I encourage a return to more customization a la Reach or 4. Halo 5 has less slots for armor customization than 3 for fucks sake
3:
Shoulder L
Shoulder R
Helmet
Chest
5:
Helmet
Armor (whole set)
Visor color

>>377823148
Or better yet, Marathon. You can have a great and compelling story while still playing as
>a vessel, and if people care about him, it should only be because he's a silent juggernaut who makes aliens shit their pants. Not because he's a REAL HUMAN BEAN with muh emotions.

>>377829870
Don't let the lorefags hear you say that anon

>>377821676
Isn't this the player's fault though? There's way better armor sets and color schemes to choose from.

>>377828738
>Halo 4 and 5 made during Don Mattrick era
>Gears 4 made during the Phil Spencer era
Notice the difference?

>>377829870
Nah fuck that, the silent protagonist era is over. Master Chief has been an established character with a backstory even before CE was released.

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>>377830006
The issue is the sheer number of bad armor sets. Reach had plenty of helmets, but the worst they got was "average"
Halo 5 has a lot of downright ugly armor sets

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>"Halo 4 and 5 were necessary additions to the Halo univers-"

>>377830637
I still don't understand, they look like shit yes but it's not like you're forced to use them. Halo 5 has like five times the amount of armor sets as Reach so i'm sure there's enough and better options for your taste, hell, you start with one of the best sets anyway.

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>>377830672
Why make pic related then?

>>377831160
Microsoft forced them to leave it open-ended and ruin a beautiful ending because Halo is too profitable and they wanted to milk it for 30+ years. It wasn't a creative choice.

>it's a "343 apologists and people who get off bitching about 343 ruin another halo thread episode"

Why is it so hard for us to just discuss the series and what it did right, regardless of which game it is or who did it, and have fun.

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>>377831069
>five times the armor sets

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>>377831862
I like Halo Wars 2.

>>377831862
OP started it famalam

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I LIKE HALO 5 YOU FAGGOTS SR151 SOON

>>377831862
>le enlightened, neutral, straight man!!! xP

There's nothing that 343i has done right and therefore I cannot make an argument for them.

>spartan OPs
>Forward unto Dawn
>setting up characters with no payoff like Jul
>Nightfall
>Locke
>MCC disaster
>Halo Wars 2 is mediocre
>Halo 5 marketing scam
>Halo 4 being a shallow turd that couldn't even keep a playerbase longer than a few months

>>377832148
>Reach has 22
>5 has 99
I'm sorry anon, it was just a quick estimate, please forgive me.

>>377820823
Mechanically, yeah i agree, conceptually, story-wise, universe-wise, direction-wise, I think they miss the mark everytime.

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>>377825189
Fixed

It's a shame that they killed off Rookie. ODST2 would've been cool

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>>377832906
There's nothing wrong with Bucaneer, it's literally Halo 3's EVA and the earmuffs aren't that bad, give me a break.

>>377831862
Because 343 apologist and Bungie faggots have to argue, both have always been cancer to the fanbase. While they both hate each other they both have one thing in common, they both like sucking the dick of the studio that feeds them since to them Bungie/343 can do no wrong.

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>>377833175
Looks like shit

Add in regular mark V where mark V alpha was too