Are MGS fanboys who dislike Twin Snakes the most autistic people

the only things i dont like are the clean shadow moses

and the over the top cutscenes

Is the gameplay any different? I just beat MGS1, is this worth playing if I already beat the original?

>>377781619
Not OP but from a gameplay POV, it's basically MGS1 with MGS2 styled gameplay mechanics.

http://metalgear.wikia.com/wiki/Differences_between_Metal_Gear_Solid_and_Metal_Gear_Solid:_The_Twin_Snakes

>>377781619
It's easier because it's not designed for the gameplay change blah blah.

Great game

remember, TS is the only game with ridiculous, out of character cutscenes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJrfubgK45M

>>377780789
The main complaint against this port/remake/whatever you want to call it, is the ridiculous cutscenes like snake flipping over a doorway, trying to tackle metal gear rex, ocelot dropping his gun, etc. The mgs 2 controls are not bad but it does make it too easy and feels like a completely different game.

Also they had to redub some of the audio I remember reading/hearing. where they recorded the audio for mgs1 on ps1, cars were going by and they had to time their lines between buses and shit like that. probably some background noise picked up when upped the audio quality

>>377782393
The only difference is, that's a cyborg ninja, snake is just a man, granted hes a super soldier but still snake couldn't take down geckos with melee like that in his prime

>>377780789
I do miss the iconic encounter theme, but the game isn't bad. Psycho Mantis' theme was nice.

The only problem I have are the ridiculously over the top scenes like >>377782652 pointed out.

>>377780789
I was prepared to fully agree but your first bullet triggered me. Replacing the GOAT encounter themes with robot diarrhea was a travesty.

Still a good game

Ill bite. The fps addition made it *too* easy.

Also Snake was the best of the best but when he shows up to Shadow Moses hes a stranger in a strange land and actually out of his element with all these fantastical characters.

In TS hes just as skilled with the goofy flips and shit.

I dont hate it but I also didnt prefer it.

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>implying the over the top cutscenes were anything but glorious
>not liking Snake backflipping and then jumping on a rocket
>not liking snake jumping on his gun, doing a 360, and taking down Wolf

>>377781364
>>377782652
I like to imagine the PS1 version is how it really happened, and Twin Snakes is how Snake tells people it happened.

Remember, it's cool and OK that Vamp can run on water and run up a fucking 90 degree surface with wet feet and metal boots, but Snake doing a few cool flips is just too much.

>>377783526
The argument against Snake backflipping is that in 1 he was supposed to be an excellent soldier, but nothing more. You'd have to have the core of superman to pull of the shit he did.
Meanwhile Vamp and really everyone in MGS2 was balls to the wall insane.

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>tfw played the 3DS version of MGS3 which has 3rd person view
>now every mgs with top view feels like fucking shit

>>377783526
The thing is that it is inconsistent with MGS2 and 3. Neither big boss nor Solid snake are seen doing any of that shit again. Understandable for MGS4 as he's old then.

>>377784076
Snake is literally the greatest soldier ever, trained by the earlier best soldier ever to beat all of the other best soldiers ever. A few fucking backflips are fine, fuck in the original MGS he does a 100 foot backflip thanks to a tank shell.

Is this game good?
I put it in my cracked wii but the top view is a little annoying specially after playing mgs with 3rd person view, also I couldn't even reach the elevator at the beggining, how do I get gud?

>>377783526
>>377784076
this is not just a backflip https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHdNTxNmumE

like i said lets also not forget that rex activates and snakes first thought is to rush tackle it. he also jumps off a missile from the hind D while carrying the stinger launcher to hit liquid.

I don't mind the new custscenes for some scenes like the gray fox but come on thats not just a backflip and they added airplane take off noises for a lot of these scenes too for some reason

>>377784450
better example https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_wRFNeGCsrk

again I don't mind the gray fox shit since it's at least somewhat appropriate since hes a genetic cyborg freak but some of this shit is so stupid.

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>>377782652
>They had time to redo some lines that may or may not have had car sounds in the background, but they never bothered changing
"Press the crouch button to crouch"

>>377780789
No, mgs fans that think there is some kind of grand ruse going on are far more autistic than the twin snakes haters.

>>377780789
The people who hate Twin Snakes are not judging the game on it's own merits, and instead complaining how it fits into the entire MGS series, or how it compares to the original MGS1.

If they paid attention, they'd realize that as a stand alone title, Twin Snakes is the best game in the entire series.
>MGS2 control changes make the game feel much more modern and complete. It may make the game a bit easier, but playing Doom with modern FPS controls (IE: Not the controls from Wolfenstein) make the game easier too, but the game is much more enjoyable that way. You can't seriously believe that if they could do it all over again, the developers would go with the janky MGS1 controls over the ones in MGS2.
>The redone graphics are timeless due to the amazing artistic decisions that were made in this game. The game doesn't capture the feeling of MGS1, but instead provides a different look at Shadow Moses which ends up giving the game better visual ambiance.
>The game still possesses the innovative gameplay design and unique storyline that made the game so good in the first place
>The argument about the cutscenes should be thrown right out. Most of you adore Rising, which completely throws the entire tone of the series right out the window, alongside making Raiden go from "Really strong cyborg ninja" in 4, to fucking Bayonetta in the course of one game. Twin Snake's cut scenes are a rare opportunity for a true film auteur to lend their talents to a game.


The only other game in the series that you could argue is better is MGS3 (Subsistence. Original controls like ass). MGS2, 4, 5, Peace Walker, ect don't mean anything to the player unless they've played the rest of the games, while 3 and Twin Snakes provide a fantastic experience that anyone can pick up and enjoy.

Twin Snakes is one of the most underrated games of all time, and it's a shame that fanboys reject it for not being the same as MGS1, instead of accepting it as a fantastic game on it's own.

>>377782393
>Using 4 to support your argument
This is an acceptable cutscene to TTSfags
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QofhJhJGBjw

This is NOT my MGS and this is NOT okay

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tkt0NviEOhA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DojV0tM-dR4

>>377781364
The over the top cutscenes are fine. It's like people expect MGS to take itself seriously. Not to mention people seem perfectly fine with MGR.

Also this cutscene is great:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CY8S2vYp9xg

People always said the voice acting in Twin Snakes is a lot worse than the original.

But listening to them back to back, I fail to see why that's such a common sentiment.

>>377783314
Twin Snakes is how he tells the story when he's wasted in a bar.

>>377780789
>The music is slightly different, therefore the game is terrible!
Its completely different and sounds like extremely generic electronic music you'd find in a cheap porno.
>So what if the voice acting is more consistent with later games, it's different from the original and therefore bad!
The new voice acting was just plain awful, there was no emotion to the delivery most of it sounded like it was phoned in and was completely one note.
>The MGS2 features are pointless and ruin the game! (These are the same people who want a FOX engine remake of MGS1)
They aren't pointless but they feel awful in MGS1. It could have worked but the problem was that besides adding lockers ZERO changes were made to accommodate the updated mechanics.
>There's no VR missions, those were obviously very important to the story and the main game as a whole! It's an abomination for not having them!
I'll give you this one couldn't really give a fuck about the VR missions.

>>377785234
>I'm too lazy to check if there's anything to it so me being the miserable cynic I am, I'll just assume it's all bullshit and nothing interesting or good will come of it because I love to hate things
/v/ was so much more fun 2 years ago.

>>377785652

I think you're getting my post wrong

that was sarcasm

>>377786737
You point that it's ok for TTS to have retarded cutscenes because 4 does too is bad because 4 is total dogshit.

>>377786830
Well excuse me mister autism speaks for enjoying things you don't

>>377780789
Nah, they're just buttdevastated sonypals sperging the fuck out over a few changes. If this had been released on the PS2, you'd see nothing but praise for it.

>>377786957
Drones projecting yet again.

I have owned pretty much every major console ever made since the NES besides the xbone, WiiU and the saturn and both versions of MGS and TTS is shit. Nintendo fanboys are by far the most obnoxious console warriors on /v/.

>>377787131
Oh you know these threads would be praising the "badass" cutscenes and the added gameplay mechanics and sonybroys would be shitting themselves about the pure gaming bliss that was the twin snakes and how it wouldn't feel right on any other console. And how based Kojima did it again.
And i do love the original more than any other game, but the twin snakes is a rather harmless adaptation with silly cutscenes that's still worth playing.

>>377787131
There was a Saturn version?

>>377787460
No I just wrote a sentence with shitty grammar.

>>377780789
I'm a huge Metal Gear fanboy and I haven't even played this game. Does it have first person view like MGS2? And what are the differences? Is it like Resident Evil REmake for gamecube?

>>377788325

if ti were anything like REmake, you wouldn't have people bitching about it.

MGS1 is exactly how it happened

Twin Snakes is how Otacon told Sunny it happened

This is FACT.

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>>377784152
the crouchwalking is god-tier too, shame about the graphics

>>377780789
MGS fanboys ARE the most autistic people period

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>>377785647
>The redone graphics are timeless due to the amazing artistic decisions that were made in this game
>Literally has worse graphics than mgs2 which came out years before on worse hardware

>>377784152
MGS3:Subsistance has 3rd person. On PS2.
And the HD Collection has 3rd person in MGS2 too.

>>377790152
MGS fanboys are schizophrenic, there's a difference

>>377790201
he meant over the shoulder L+R aiming

>>377784450
>>377784698
I don't see anything wrong with this. Because I'm not autistic. And I can appreciate fun games. Grow up.

>>377786574
>Its completely different and sounds like extremely generic electronic music you'd find in a cheap porno.

Just like MGS2 and 4

>The new voice acting was just plain awful, there was no emotion to the delivery most of it sounded like it was phoned in and was completely one note.

Just like MGS2 and 4!

>They aren't pointless but they feel awful in MGS1. It could have worked but the problem was that besides adding lockers ZERO changes were made to accommodate the updated mechanics.

Just like MGS2 and 4!

>I'll give you this one couldn't really give a fuck about the VR missions.

No VR is just cause Silicon Knights didn't get them done in time, typical canadian developers

What I would have preferred was if twin snakes had the original audio/soundtrack that you can choose between, so that it would become the ultimate edition

Also the game ran poorly and the 'motion blur' made things look terrible

>>377790170
left side looks more like his artwork and I've seen people IRL that have that weird kinda face

right side is what otacon wishes he looked like

>>377790170
Otacon looks like a fucking cartoon dog on the left lmao.

>>377790312
autism is best characterised by impaired social interaction/communication, and whoever enjoys to listen utter dross that is dialogs in MGS2 or, especially, 4, has zero understanding of what a human conversation sounds like.

>>377790201
What about the legacy collection?

>Are MGS fanboys who dislike Twin Snakes the most autistic people in the world?
no, that would be nier automata fans.

>DUHHH DURR DOOPITY DOO SNAKE DID A BACKFLIP MUH IMMERSION MUH SUSPENSION OF DISBELIEF

TTS hate is pure unfiltered autism and nothing more

>>377791198
>and whoever enjoys to listen utter dross that is dialogs in MGS2 or, especially, 4
I don't think many people actually do enjoy the long stretches of awkward philosophical exposition and dialogue in MGS games. People praise MGS stories for what happens in them, their major plot-points, characters and themes.

I don't think I've ever heard anyone praise the games for good dialogue.

People who like mgs1 over every other mgs game annoy me to no end

Mgs1 is a shitty game. The writing is OK, the story is fine , its basically some run of the mill tom calancy plot. Gameplay is so shitty tho.

Mgs1 fans always accuse people who see mgs1 for what it is of being kids but I played mgs1 in 99 and even then the controls and camera disgusted me

>>377792572
oh ok, because, to be frank, i hated narration with passion, but was afraid to skip the cutscenes in case i miss something, but enjoyed the mgs3, 4 gameplay and the little quirks the game is stockpiled with (like old snake's bad back or the entire battle with end i've enjoyed the shit out of).

>>377782652
>ocelot dropping his gun
People hate that scene? I thought it was great. The game came out before MGS3 so they didn't know he was ambidextrous and wanted to show him getting used to his other hand. Even Kojima liked that scene.

>>377790735
He always did

http://guidesarchive.ign.com/guides/569/images/otacon.jpg

>>377794507
Doesn't look that potato there desu

>>377780789
its bcus is exclusive to shitendo

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>>377790170
The game itself still looks good.

>>377785652
Yea, 4 and TTS are the only ones with silliness. https://youtu.be/hFL0_YZaFb4?t=147

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>>377797228
MGS2 had other silly moments.

Shame MGS5 didn't have as much.

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>>377787131
>doesn't own a Saturn or a Wii U

>>377797228
mgs 3 is the silliest and shittiest game in the series, it's like a saturday morning childrens anime cartoon, for autistic people

>>377795316
Most Xbox and Gamecube games still do, can't say the same for PS2 games.

>>377780789
>So what if the voice acting is more consistent with later games, it's different from the original and therefore bad!
MGS1 had the best voiceacting in the series. Hayter did worse in MGS2, and even worse in MGS3, and even worse in Peace walker.

>>377798386
Haven't played it in a while, huh? Hayter was acceptable, but Campbell was meh, Mei Ling was hilarious, and Naomi was retarded.

>>377798564
hayter is only tolerable in mgs 1,2 and 4, but his delivery was best in mgs 1 by far, and yes ive played all of them recently. The supporting cast is good enough.

Voice acting just got progressively worse as the series progressed, hayter got full of himself, he sounds like an autistic anime character in the big boss games.

>>377798709
>autistic anime character

wasn't that the point?
remember how he geeked out over guns when whatsherface was was bending over for him

>>377798709
>he sounds like an autistic anime character in the big boss games.
Literally the point.
>The supporting cast is good enough.
No one could call that Mei Ling, Naomi, and Grey Fox "good enough."

>it's bad because FPS aiming

As if your forced to use it

>entire series has over the top shit
>But this is too much because nintendo exclusive

>>377798957
>>377798969
Maybe so, but that's a completely different direction from mgs 1 and 2, and specifically 1. And I didn't like it at all. All the big boss games are shit tbqh, at least in terms of story.

>No one could call that Mei Ling, Naomi, and Grey Fox "good enough."
I just did faggot.

>>377799253
>but that's a completely different direction from mgs 1 and 2
Because it's a different character?
>I just did faggot.
I shall amend it to, "no one not blinded by nostalgia", then.

>>377799395
i mean the whole game direction

>I shall amend it to, "no one not blinded by nostalgia", then.
I played mgs1 for the first time in like 2010, nice try mr "only my opinions are valid"

anyone else prefer grey fox's TTS voice?

also, as over the top as some of the cutscenes were, most were great, I would keep 98% of them if I was in charge of a FOX engine remake

>>377786237
MGR is a platinum spinoff faggot.

TTS is awful, the original MGS will always be the better version.

>>377789235
Facts are supported by logical perception.
Where is yours.

>>377783314
it's actually the simulation of shadow moses that raiden played in the xxi trials

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>>377799458
>i mean the whole game direction
How was the game direction any different from the previous two?
>I played mgs1 for the first time in like 2010
Pic related. Or you just have terrible taste. Because even the people who dubbed Godzilla movies would cringe at Mei Ling. And Naomi was just offensive.

>>377783310
Of course not. Snake isn't supposed to do that.

>>377791330
The Legacy collection is just HD collection but with extra MGS4 disk and MGS1 download code.

>>377787361
You're the only one who's doing platform wars here. Go to another thread.

>>377801018
Triggered sonybro

>>377801517
Good post.

>>377799632
So? Way better than anything kojima has ever done

>>377794174
>has used revolvers for 60 years
>somehow still drops one

?
? ?

? ?

>>377803592
He did just have a hand cut off. He would actually be off balance.

>>377804273
That's not how guns work

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MGS1 had a lot of ridiculous over-the-top cutscenes but I think that's only a bad thing because of the dumb sound effects. There would always be jet engine sfx like when snake backflipped over that giant chunk of cement that gray fox kicked at him and when they did other random slowmos.

MGS2 had a lot of dumb shit too like snake fucking BREAKING OUT OF HANDCUFFS at the end and then JUMPING INTO THE SEA AFTER REX but imo its passable cause its at least p cool :^)

>>377804473
But it is how people work.

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No one would be complaining if pic related had happened

>>377804621
So you're telling me that when I lose my left hand I can no longer write with my right hand, despite never needing my left hand to do so

>>377804676
It will never happen
Twin Snakes was made solely to satiate the hunger of Nintendo autists
That's why they retardified the entire game, so nintards wouldn't have to use too many brain cells to understand it

>>377804679
Bit backwards there. As far as we knew in MGS1, Ocelot was right handed. But since he was ambidextrous, the loss of his right hand would be more about balance. As in, if you practice something with two hands all the time, if you take one hand out of the equation, it becomes harder for the other. I take it you don't do any martial arts? More particularly Italian fencing.

>>377804750
Lol, dat butthurt.

>>377804750
HAHAHA OH WOW

>>377804824
Except he wasn't ambidextrous, he used two revolvers because one revolver only had 6 shots
Go replay MGS3 anon

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>>377804676
Imagine if dis doe.

>>377799625
Yes, mostly because the original just ends up sounding exactly like the DARPA chief, well it's the same guy. He's still the DARPA Chief in TTS.

The sentiment that the PS1's voice acting is better HAS to be some rose-tinted dicktacles shit as a result of games just not having voice acting anywhere near it at the time.

Like how the fuck can anyone argue that Mei Ling's shitty fake chinese accent of MGS1 is better than Twin Snakes'?

>>377804949
habbenin
maybe
could
http://gonintendo.com/stories/276142-denis-dyack-says-there-s-a-chance-metal-gear-solid-the-twin-snak

>>377804928
Hah, the power of suggestion, eh? But yea, that just goes to show, he was using his non-dominant hand.

>>377804949
>also compatible with the WII U
Now that's just craziness.

>>377805248

Yeah I took a peak at that article when I was making that image, did some googling on who the fuck Denis Dyack even is and discovered that he was the former prez of Silicon Knights and that they went bankrupt in 2014 because of a lawsuit with ebic games. wtf.

>>377805242
It was obvious the actors were phoning it in the entire time for TTS. Also, the soundtrack and ambiance were a big reason the original game was so good. Never mind the silly cut scenes. The game is utter trash based on the audio alone.

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>>377805593
>he was using his non-dominant hand

Still shouldn't have dropped it considering that he was literally the best revolver user in the world until he died

>>377780789
>(These are the same people who want a FOX engine remake of MGS1)

I would like to see this. I never played TS btw. So I am immune to your criticism.

MGS1 is pretty dated and could use a remake with some changes as well.

>>377805730
>based on the audio alone.
Well that's the funniest one of the lot.
But also lol@phoning it in. As though "rook I arr so Asian ror" was passable.

>>377805873
Because skilled people never drop things?

It was not a good remake and it wasn't because of being on a Nintendo console

REmake was on Gamecube and is still the best videogame remake to date and you don't see anyone complaining about it

>>377805873
>he was literally the best revolver user in the world
With his right hand. Try writing with your non-dominant hand and see how you do.

>>377806007
It just wasn't like one of his japanese animes

>>377780789
>criticize bad changes
>Y-YOU JUST HATE CHANGE!

Fanboys like you defending 13 year old games are "the most autistic" by far.

>>377798564
>Campbell was meh in MGS1
You really have no taste.

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>>377806042
>MGS3
>Ocelot starts using two revolvers after just 5 days of using a revolver
>can already do impressive tricks beyond the limits of regular humans with both hands
>doesn't drop his revolvers even once
>somehow drops his revolver in TTS despite being beyond human skill with both of his hands
>this is what nintenbros actually believe

Fuck off retard

>>377806187
Oh the irony.

>>377806349
Cut off your dominant hand and see how you fare doing regular shit. This isn't even a fanboy thing, this is just basic logic. Shit, he would still be suffering from blood loss.

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>>377806349
look how mad this guy is getting about some insignificant scene in a videogame

>>377792527
>MUH IMMERSION MUH SUSPENSION OF DISBELIEF
>proceed to say TTS was autism
Were you not being ironic with that greentext?

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Everyone knows TTS is Otacon retelling the Shadow Moses incident to Sunny, embellishing Snake as much as possible.

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>>377806450
You don't understand you idiot
He was literally beyond human skill with both hands
Imagine if you could paint like fucking Bouguereau with either of your hands
It doesn't matter which one you cut off, the other one will work just as well

>>377806530
>lose the argument
>HAHA U MAD BRO xDDD

No wonder they had to dumb down the game for people like you, you can't even think with more than a single brain cell

>>377806349
Why are you blaming TTS over another one of Kojima's autistic retcons?
>le everyone met before
>xD snake's daddy met otacon's daddy in the past too
>All of TPP

>>377806530
>>377806650

im actually not even part of the argument tho :^)

>>377806650
>He was literally beyond human skill with both hands
Sounds like you're defending Snake's backflips now.
>It doesn't matter which one you cut off, the other one will work just as well
Again, cut off a limb and see how you manage even simple tasks whilst suffering blood loss.
>dumb down
Lol. This from the nigga who doesn't understand balance or biology. Your parents must have been twins or something.

ITT: some faggot brewing flame wars
Let this thread die.

>>377806909
>flame wars
It's a civil video game discussion. You get out.

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>>377806752
>non-canon game
>retcon

>>377806819
I don't think you understand what beyond human skill means
Of course this is a wild concept for someone as unskilled and moronic as you, but it's very simple
Beyond human skill is something that is
woah
beyond human fucking skill
Ocelot was literally the best gunman that had ever fucking existed
He became extremely proficient with revolvers after using them for just a couple days for the first time
Do you have any idea how fucking retarded you'd have to be to fuck up at something you are so good at that literally nobody in the entire world could beat you at
Look, I get it, you're shit at everything and fuck up at even the most easiest of tasks, but that doesn't mean everyone else do ya dingus

>>377807150
So you're implying MGS3 and TPP are non canon?

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>tfw I like mgs1, twin snakes, 2, 3, 4, pw and v equally

>>377807231
Well, you're a freak.

>>377807150
>I don't think you understand what beyond human skill means
I didn't think anyone could try and make MGS even more ridiculous than it is. Good work, half-wit. Or do you just have no actual skills, so you have no concept of them being affected by something so major.
>Ocelot was literally the best gunman that had ever fucking existed
That's great. Did he bleed after losing an arm?

>>377807221
>I don't understand the plot, therefore the information I can not decipher was retconned

Good job retard, you're only proving my point

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>>377807287
>enjoying things makes you a freak

>>377807332
So you think Ocelot meeting Big Boss wasn't a retcon?

Woooooooow, you're a big boy, aren't you?

>>377807370
>Not hating things
You're a monster.

>>377780789
The music really is bad though. The first person view makes the game easy as fuck and ruins the Ocelot fight. I like the game but the original poops all over it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DP29E9MljaE
No. It's horse shit.

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>>377807301
>B-BUH MUH BLEEDING

Play MGS3 retard, you can have tons of bees sting him, throw grenades at him and shoot him several times yet he still maintains his accuracy

Oh right, you can't play MGS3 because you're stuck with a shitty MGS remake

>>377807391
>international spy meeting with one of the most feared soldiers of all time
>somehow an unlikely happening

Why do you think Ocelot worked with Liquid, dumbass?

>>377783310
They're funny to see but I'd still prefer the old cutscenes

Reading this thread
>you only hate it for being nintendo exclusive!
>if it was on PS2 you would love it!
So basically people only defend it because its on nintendo it seems.

>>377807550
>you can have tons of bees sting him, throw grenades at him and shoot him several times yet he still maintains his accuracy
You do those things to specifically throw off his accuracy. Did you even play it?
>you can't play MGS3
>Not being an idort
Hah, so you're an idiot and poor. Should have figured.

>>377807550
>Why do you think Ocelot worked with Liquid, dumbass?
Alright, at least you agree that it was a retcon now.

>>377807643
>Reading this thread
Are you for real?

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>>377807684
You do those things to distract him, afterwards he shoots at you with the exact same precision
Same reason why Snake doesn't shoot at Ocelot after the fight ends, he's distracted by the fucking hornets even though he had a clear shot

>>377807980
So why does Snake stop EVA from shooting Ocelot? Was he distracted by something then too? Dumbass...

If i'm not mistaken wasn't Twin Snakes worked on by Silicon Knights? I could be wrong but I thought I remembered an interview with Dennis Dyack in Nintendo Power a while before its release. I rooted for them because of Eternal Darkness. I thought Twin Snakes was fine but I can see how purists would be irritated by the changes. I think a lot of the anger towards it comes from it being an exclusive on a poorly received console by a company that had previously had little to do with the MGS franchise beyond handheld games.

I still think Too Human could have been good. I liked the setting a lot.

>>377807980
>You do those things to distract him
But according to you, he's beyond human ability, that shouldn't bother him.

>>377808109
How does Superman lose to Batman?

>>377808152
kryptonite, how stupid are you?

>>377808152
Prep time.
And different series. Don't move goalposts, fagit.

>>377808109
He's beyond human ability with guns you dumbass
You can be the best shot in the world, that doesn't mean you can't die

>>377808080
Because he's pretty good

>>377780789
>no mention of the real problems with TS
you just wanted a weak bait MGS thread, didn't you?

this thread is dumb now ;-;

>>377808274
>He's beyond human ability with guns
But not with his non-dominant hand shortly after the right has been cut off, it seems.

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>>377808467
Except that's luckily not canon
Remember, Nintenbros never win

>>377808613
>Nintendo never got the disgrace that was MGSV
I think they won there.

>>377808613
>Except that's luckily not canon
Apparently it is. It was in a canon game, with other canon additions.
Gotcha bitch.

>>377808779
>Hurr Durr the voice lines recorded in TTS were used in MGS4
That doesn't mean anything, the gameplay footage was MGS1 still.

>>377808859
>That doesn't mean anything
yes it does, it's mean that you've been BTFO

>>377808779
So you're telling me that Ghost Babel is canon as well, which it is clearly not?

>>377808954
Ok, let's not get too hasty here.
While we can all agree that TTS wasn't canon, Ghost Babel was Raiden's training in VR.

>>377808859
It was a flashback. Ergo, canon. Not to mention Snake's hair.

>>377808954
No, but PO is.

>>377807773
Obviously, Ningger.

>>377780789
people that dislike Twin Snakes are mostly Sonybros that are buttmad that their game got ported

>>377809126
Portable Ops is also made by Kojimbo and is not a remake, therefore your argument is invalid

>>377809465
My argument wasn't hinged around PO, so it's still valid. Weak effort, though. Out of ideas already?

>>377809465
>Metal Gear Solid: Portable Ops officially abbreviated MPO, is an action-adventure stealth video game directed by Masahiro Yamamoto and written by Gakuto Mikumo

>>377809687
>abbreviated MPO
I like to call it PoOps

>>377809965
really is the only proper name for it.

>>377783314
Yeah wasn't that the point?
It's like an extension of the Snake in MGS2.

>>377789235
nah, tts is raiden going through shadow moses in VR. it's more of an aside to 2 than anything.

>>377780789
(You)

>>377790201
>And the HD Collection has 3rd person in MGS2 too

It's not a free camera like MGS3, it's still fixed like it was since the PS2

>>377801679
(You)

>>377806650
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BBQ2mflwnEU

B-BUT ITS BEYOND HUMAN SKILLZ

>>377813693
Now we need to cut his hand off and see if he starts to drop things.

>>377807480
so dont use the FPV...

>>377803592
its a joke you retard

besides, maybe he hadnt practiced in a while
Ive done magic tricks for years, but if I don't practice, even I may slip up

>>377780789
This game needs a remaster for the PS4 and Xbox One

>>377815791
Fox engine remaster for the whole series including MG1+2.