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Thoughts? Opinion? Feels? Superman is a bitch, Harley Quinn

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Thoughts? Opinion? Feels?

Superman is a bitch, Harley Quinn is hot af.
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Im liking it. havnt done too much online yet, trying to level characters and doing multiverse shit.

motherboxes were a terrible idea.

whos the funnest to play and why is it Atrocitus?
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Black Canary is best girl.
Darkseid is legitimately amazing.
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>>377771491
The other Red Lantern, Supergirl has been the funnest for me.

This should have been a skin.
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Its a shitty fighting game

Its a shitty fighting game about DC released when DC comics are going to shit and DC movies are garbage

Its a shitty fighting game with a boring overdone DC plotline

Its a shitty fighting game sequel that learned nothing from its past games

Its a shitty fighting game with probably the wrose player models I can think of
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>>377770671

>Superman is a bitch

Lol, no. He's completely sane and basically proves that Batman's "rule" is selfish. He only doesn't kill because he knows he wont stop, which is fine, but not with mass murderers.

Supes is right, fuck off
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It's like they took all the worst things in western games and crammed them all into one.
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>>377770671
I miss Injustice 1 Green Arrow. I want the universe where he wins against them all.
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>>377770671
I like it, but I have never played story mode and probably never will
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>>377771815
Did not play the game
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Shitty MK-tier animations make me vomit, no thanks.
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>>377771815
they know he is right, the death of supes wife and son was because of batman dumb rule, killing the joker was the right choice and a long overdue one, the shitty part is that they had to make superman kill good guys too so they can justify him being on the "wrong side"
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Injustice Superman is a psychopath who kills and enslaves everyone who disagrees with him and everybody who thinks he's right are either retarded or huge Griffith fans.
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>>377772029
>>377771815
>>377770671
Because muh plot holes. Arkham shouldn't even be a prison because Batman locks them up there and they just escape. Its just some stupid plot hole to keep thing interesting. Batman locks them up for good and they escape because why not. They could easily create a space prison and put all the bad guys up there but no. We gotta have Superman go REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE because thats how you sell comics.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7ho8tFZP6U

This is what a high level Injustice 2 match looks like.

This is what is going to happen on Evo main stage.
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>>377770671
Would bang Supergirl.
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>>377770671
Graphics animations and story are great.
Shit clunky gampley though. What a shame
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>>377773753
>NRS game
>animations are great
Hello blind fuck.
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>>377773835
he's just talking about the mo-cap cutscene stuff their marketing department is busy posting
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>>377771634
>Black Canary is best girl.
Yeah but that neutral is suffering.
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>>377773753
The animations are defiantly a step up from the first game, but I found that Superman's facial animation looked off every time they focused on him.
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best fighting game of all time.

it's Injustice 1 without the heavy-feeling, slow characters, better animations, bodies and the best faces in the history of gaming, a movie-worthy story mode, the most fun loot system in any game ever (since it's loot in a game that is actually fun to play, unlike MOBAS and FPS), and so many modes of play that it's unfathomable.

in Injustice 1 I enjoyed the meta (gauge) game and thought the fighting was OK, and loves the extras. this one fixes all the flaws the previous game had, and ups the ante compared to any fighter ever released. graphics, content, story... Tekken 7 looks like a last-gejn game compared to this. hell, Uncharted looks like a last gen game compared to the character models and faces in this.
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>>377774182
>best fighting game of all time
Super Street Fighter II Turbo, The King of Fighters: 2002, and Soul Calibur III would like a word with you
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Grodd is fucking ridiculous to get the hang of but seeing coach steve do wonders with him is inspiring.

Currently trying out Black Adam, is there any reason to use something besides the fordward 1 2 or back 2 3 for starting combos?
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>>377770671
Meh story mode
Multiverse is great for casuals and scrubs but just as boring as towers for fgc
As a comp fighter it's utterly broken and has no legs, which is disappointing after MKX was actually reasonably competitive.
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>>377774182
i can't wait to play as the faces in this fighting game
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>>377774354
>SCIII

Literally no one played the proper SCIII though because the PS2 version was imabalanced as fuck. I've only seen one SCIII cabinet in my life.
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>>377771773
who hurt you
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>>377774354
>Super Street Fighter II Turbo
You have to be delusional to believe this. Every Street Fighter game, even V, is better than SFII. If SF2 was released for the first time today with HD models or sprites, nobody would play it.
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>>377770671
Wonder Woman is the worst fucking thing in Injustice I really hope she dies in the next game
But I still love her and FUCK SUPERMAN!
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>>377772274
I can't stand scrubs who complain about zoning in fighting games but I'm not sure what NRS were thinking when they were making deadshot. His recovery time is way too quick, getting in on him with certain characters is a nightmare. He's constantly building meter and chipping away at your health whilst knocking you back, trying to fight him with a character like Black canary or Bane is a nightmare.

It's almost certain they'll nerf him at this point, watching a deadshot fight is enough to put you to sleep it's that uninteresting to watch.
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>>377774610
Damn shame

>>377774684
Cool story dude
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>>377773835
Kill yourself NRS can't animate fighting for shit. Yeah their CGI movies look good but that's basically every western developer.


Japan still king of FG's
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I want to play as Bane but how am I supposed to do anything when his fastest normal is 9 frame startup?
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>>377774913
Japan has good fighters out now, yeah, but Chun Li isn't in Tekken 7 or Xrd so not sure why you posted her.
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>>377771773
>when dc comics are going to shit
"No"
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>>377771773
Wew lawd this, Injustice was not a fun game by any means and the only interest was the story. Gameplay was utter shit but they fixed nothing
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>>377775024
>SFV isn't le good ebin maymay

And I'm hyped for T7, Marvel and Rev2 so go nut on Ed Coons face.
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>>377770671
Sea man is the best character
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>>377775212
It isnt.
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>>377774706
danm they really fixed her face...she looking like Linda Carter was a good touch
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>>377775403
Too bad she's garbage. Not sure what NRS was thinking with her moveset.
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>>377774706

lol Black Adam looks like Nixon...why the shitty hair?


he is viable in Injustice 2?
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>>377775659
Top 5 easy.
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>>377775659
Black Adam has never not had a widow's peak.
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>>377775659
FOOT DIVE nigga.
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>>377770671
>NRS
>capeshit

garbage
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>tfw too autistic to try online mode
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>>377774715
literally meter roll, it's so fucking easy to get to him
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>>377775212
sfv isn't good
i'd still play it over this shit though
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IJ2 doesn't have sniffs, so it's not a real fighting game. Prove me wrong. Protip: you can't.
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>>377771773
What's it like to not be able to enjoy anything? Ever?
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>>377776005
>MB roll
>costs 2 bars
>don't gain meter when blocking projectiles
>Deadshot can shoot 3 times and gain a bar
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>it's a capcbros refuse to admit anything but marvel and SF are good episode

I don't even like the NRS games personally but it's absurd how butthurt and hostile the FGC is to anything but capcom games, especially new IP's
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>>377776623
FGC is fighting games by capcom.
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>>377774628
>>377776203
Why do I have to enjoy shit? Its a bad fighting game. Its a bad looking game also. The only enjoyable parts were the banter between heros and the endings to each character. Both looking like shit because the models look like garbage and the endings are just slide shows.
>>377775096
>Cape shit comics in 2017
>Not shit
Pick 1
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>>377770671
HOW THE FUCK DO I GET GOOD AS SNART GODDAMN
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>>377777934
zone
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Hey casuals, you have learned how to use me, right?
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>>377776217
>>377776005
>>377774715
>>377772274
Do you think Sonic is using Deadshot a ton to point out to the devs how retarded he is?

What are the changes of a nerf to Deadshot?

I was gonna buy the game, but man the way how this cancer looks turned me off cuz I plan to play online a ton
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>>377776217

it costs one bar to meter roll retard
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>>377778363
>Do you think Sonic is using Deadshot a ton to point out to the devs how retarded he is?
No he is a nigger who only chooses the most broken characters in what ever shitty fighting game he plays and abuses them
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>>377778527
What about the devs nerfing deadshot?
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>>377778363
Deadshot is the worst zoner because he has no close combat gameplan besides the low-overhead string. Of course he's going to catch people who mash buttons or don't know what they're doing.

It doesn't matter who sonicfox plays, he will wreck. They nerfed all his characters in MKX and he just kept moving on to another one and dominating.
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>>377776005
That's the solution? Burn 2 bars of meter just to get close to him? You have admit that's not a good trade-off considering he can build meter insanely fast, deals a lot of chip damage and causes pushback. I don't have a problem with zoning characters being in the game but there's no denying he needs some slight changes made to him.
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>>377778527
Isn't that playing to win though? If money is on the line, what incentive would keep people from using characters approved for tournament use?
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>>377778363
They will probably nerf him at this point, they did the same with deathstroke in the first game. Playing against him is quite frustrating for certain characters but others have a way around it. Not to mention online you have latency affecting it too which can make it even more difficult.
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>>377778798
How long do NRS wait to make balance changes to their games usually?
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>>377778871
They are the most frequent fighting game patchers going by their track record. It's like once a month thing.
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>>377778658

It costs one bar to meter roll, I swear you guys don't play the game and just shitpost. How can you not see that.

1 bar to meter roll, 1 bar to block escape, 2 bars to air escape. You literally make a bar as quickly as a good deadshot hit gets in, meaning you can easily get close to him multiple times in a match even if your hero has no other skills to get close. You can also spend 1 bar to gain armor while interacting with the scenario or charging the heavy attack now.
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>>377771773
>DC Comics going to shit
But they aren't?
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>>377779031
Not him but I find that meter rolling really doesn't help that much. I get a lot of chip damage whilst deadshot builds meter and when I finally have the meter to roll he manages to catch me with the rifle attack. I can beat him using supergirl and darkseid but with anyone else he's pretty hard to beat. I wanted to main black canary but I just don't know how to deal with him whilst playing as her.
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>>377779031
Doesn't his trait give him bullets that can also drain meter though?
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>>377779580
Those are the worst ones to use, because you could either do damage over time with the fire or create more knockback with the blue. If you combo into the bullets, and you are using the energy bar draining bullets, you are also giving them super meter with each non-bulelt hit. So you give them like 6 pips and then the bullets drain 4-5 pips. It isnt really doing much.
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>>377779470

Jesus shitter, dodge a bullet and meter roll, voi la you're by his side.
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>>377772274
>fighting game
>supposed to be a close quarters game of skill
>there are ranged attacks
>queers call spamming ranged attacks in a fighting game "zoning"
>they actually praise this strategy instead of just calling it what it is, playing like a complete fag and that ranged attacks shouldn't exist in a fighting game

Sad
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>>377776729
Kek'd hard
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>>377780576
This
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>>377775212
But SFV is shit.
It is not a game for casuals and is hated by the eSports fags.
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>>377780576
>Unable to counter simple ranged attacks
>Calls themselves a fighting game fan

Sad.
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>>377781063
Why do eSports fags hate it?
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>>377780576
>>377780845
>multiple characters have tools to close distance or their own projectiles to challenge it
>everyone even gets general tools like the roll
>WAAAAW DISONORBU SHAMEFUR

I bet you faggots get pissed when someone doesnt bow in Dark Souls.
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Shitting on people that have incredibly high winrates from cheesy shit is extra fun in this game.
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>>377772226
>They could easily create a space prison and put all the bad guys up there
This is part of why I don't like it when Batman's setting intersects with the other DC bits.
Batman hasn't got any superpowers and his world gets fucked over by lunatics. His whole MO is nonsense once Superman becomes a factor and when the technology crosses the line from "unrealistic tech owned by one mortal billionaire" to "wonky sci-fi nonsense".
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>>377781397
Agreed. My roomie found out I had been playing, too. I literally started just two days ago. He's over level 20 from pure cheese on Green Arrow.

I kicked his ass with a level 3 Black Canary. I then repeated to destroy him over and over and over even with characters I had never used before simply because I caught on to his cheese.

It's kind of sad. Looking forward to actually getting gud at this so I can REALLY wreck things.
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>>377770671
I'm enjoying looking at all of the customization options. I'll get it in a year when they release the complete version of the game on PC.
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>>377781275
Zoning isn't fun to play or play against even if it's balanced
Stop excusing bad design just because it's balanced
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>>377781837
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>>377781837
SFV removed zoning and it made the entire game fucking terrible because every character plays exactly the same.
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>>377781837
>implying there's ANY better feel than destroying a full cheese mode spammer
You don't play fighting games do you
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It's a great game that really exposes the stupid weeaboo virgins here. Every time you see someone here complain about the game being “clunky and ugly“ and “having no waifus“ you can see the people who most definitely never have, and never will see a girl naked.
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>>377770671
>thoughts? Opinions?
The clash system needs to be removed. It's too noob friendly and is currently easily exploitable. More of a nuisance than an intense comeback starter.
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>>377782025
>noob friendly?

Lol? I've run into so many people who clash with nothing just because they're mashing buttons. I'm more annoyed by it because it something you have to see every fight, even against CPUs.
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>>377781974
>cancer is okay because I can beat it
Ok
>>377781965
SFV has a metric ton of issues nothing to do with zoning
>>377782004
If a girl isn't some perfect looking loli the game is automatically SJW as well
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>>377780576
>game is new
>people are still figuring out the meta and the hard/soft counters
>ranged attacks are initially OP because scrubs don't know how to deal with them
this happens with every single fighting game ever
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>>377772274
I wonder how many people watched the first 3 minutes and stopped. 7 minutes in SonicFox start approach and Scar switch to Super Girl to Counter Deadshot. 20 minutes in it was actually an entertaining match between the two.
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>>377782229
>Ok
Thank you for acknowledging that I fully refuted your claim that "Zoning isn't fun to play or play against" and that zoning is "bad design."
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>>377772274
/co/ will defend this
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>>377782380
see >>377772274
dumb frogposter
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>>377782172
What im saying is it's like x-factor from UMvC3, made for noobs, but it just becomes a nuisance for anyone who bothers to learn the game.

>enemy uses ultimate
>I use ultimate immediately after
>enemy regained one to two blocks of meter from my ultimate
>clashes
>gains back health
>prolongs inevitable for another 30 seconds
Everytime.
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>>377782470
Watch your own video, dumb redditposter. The entire way through.
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I'm abusing the shit out of AI fighting - it's fun so far.

Also, infinite gold boxes is nice, until they fix it.
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Stupid question: How do you make Cat Woman reliably gain meter (claw marks)? I can't seem to figure it out....
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>>377782495
why the fuck are you even using super attacks if you think you're a pro player?
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>>377782564
:D
XD
:P
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>>377782495
Just go for unclashable damage if you hate it that much.
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>>377781643
Canary's trait makes her god like at conversions. Being able to land her b1, which hits low and reaches pretty far, and following up with Lvl 2 or 3 Cry into a 450+ dmg combo is sick.

Also
>mfw 600+ dmg 2 bar combos
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>>377780576
This.
It's even worse when you play a game for a while, then watch more and more of the fanbase rely on playing like complete faggots and end up ruining the game

>B-BUT THEY'RE EASY TO DEAL WITH
>IF YOU CAN'T KILL THEM YOU'RE JUST SHIT!

That's not the point.
If these so called "top tier" players resort to it, then what's the fucking point? It becomes boring to watch and boring to play.
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>>377770671
>Never play fightan games
>Actually interested in it from the videos I've seen
>Go to buy it on Steam
>Not on PC
Ah fuck, it IS Netherrealm I guess
What's the best fighting game on PC quick quick quick I want my fill
Preferably something not TOO hard where I get my ass obliterated by unbreakable combos
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>>377782495

>using Supers when the enemy can clash
>not saving Supers for guaranteed kills when near the end

What a shitter, Jesus Christ.
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>>377782630
Where did you get that idea?I only ever use them against friends, ai, or the enemy is about to die.

The ai loves to spam clash.
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>>377782956

SF V, I guess.
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>>377782326
Supergirl is a known counter to all zoner. That doesn't make the game not broken for zoner characters. Characters with no tools to close in like Scarecrow or Cheetah are going to get wreck by Deadshot. Also the first few matches is 100% what is going to happen at Evo because it is the optimal way to play, then someone will counterpick with Superman/girl and then maybe we will have something entertaining. But for everyone else it will be deadshot vs X character and X character will most likely end uop getting wreck.
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>>377782956
Mortal Kombat X, ironically. The new version has the best netcode you'll find on a PC fighter.
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>>377783095
>>I use ultimate immediately after

yeah where could that idea have possibly came from
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>>377783221
Ultimate being 100% safe on block is fucking stupid as well.
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>>377783085
Did you even read the post, enemies can gain meter from supers you fucking dolt. Lurk more, faggot.
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>>377782956
Skullgirls is pretty good, but if you want to actually play with people SF:V Is your only option really. Until Rev2 comes out but that'll probably die in 2 weeks.
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>>377783221
This doesn't even seem like it was replied to the right person
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>>377783331
>use super when they have less than 400 health
>meter they gain no longer matters because they are dead from the super

did you read his post?
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>>377783331

Which is why I'm saying you should only use it when the enemy can't get up after that. Wait until he has 30% left and use your Super.
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>>377782739
That's basically what I was doing. My other tactic was to hit into an environmental (ex: statues in Fortress of Solitude), Kick a few times to assure charge is built and keep him airborne, Level 3 cry.

I thought about just air juggling him against the background but I thought it would be pretty cheesy and decided not to stoop to his level. Also air combo breaks are a thing, even if most cheesers don't know how to do them.
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>>377770671
Game is trash and dumb to smoke.
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>>377783519
Canary is good if you can get in.
I can't seem to beat Deadshots with Canary tho. It seems the timing for meter roll vs Deadshot is so much tighter then vs other characters.
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>>377783464
I'm confused, you call other people shit, yet you're defending the clash system, something specifically made for shitters?
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>>377783672

The Clash system is there to make you not spend meter like a madman, dude. That way, when you're on your second round, you should watch out and make sure you have more meter than your opponent.
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>>377783672
If you're dumb enough to burn all your meter when they have their clash available then the only shitter is you.
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>>377783635
Maybe try knocking him back with that rolling throw then crying at him as he gets up? He also seems to pause before using the gun, but that might be just me.
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>>377772226
The messed up thing is that none of that is Batman's fault. He's not law enforcement, he's a vigilante, he catches them, but their punishment is ultimately up to Gotham City, who for whatever reason doesn't bother executing these psychos.

Except for a few comics where Batman goes out of his way to save the Joker, because they're buttbuddies.
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>>377783481
That's pretty much the only time I ever use it, but sometimes a sliver of health still remains and it just makes the match last longer when if the game didn't have a bullshit system like this it would've been much better.
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>>377783750
No, it's a crutch mechanic for retards to lean on.
>>377783752
Not the argument.
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>>377783635
>Canary is good if you can get in.
This can be frustrating. Her normals are slow and stubby and literally every fucking thing is minus on block but once you get a hit in you she really makes it hurt.
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>>377772226

This.

>They have at least 2 Prisons strong enough to hold Superman
>But nothing that can hold the fucking Joker
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Who wants to play?
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>>377782565
Infinite gold boxes?
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>>377784065
Prisons can't deal with them unblockable setups
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>>377775003
By having armor on everything senpai
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>>377771683
does swamp thing get his white lantern skin? does anyone get their blackest night temp lantern skins?
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Superman is indeed a bitch

Bruce Wayne looks fucking Jewish

Harley and supergirl look like trash

Ivy and Cheetah inflict mighty boners

Black Adam and Brainiac have the best faces of any NRC game to date

Firestorm and Cyborg are fucking stupid and forced as fuck. Hal Jordan should have gone red or stuck to yellow or fucked off entirely to make room for John Stewart (who looked infinitely better in the first game). Deathstroke should have stayed in over Deadshot and Lobo should have returned.

I'm pretty disappointed with the game overall, but I play it because I'm determined to git gud with scarecrow

Also joker looks like Charlie Day
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>>377784334
Not that I have seen... I wish Fear God Scarecrow was in this game. It would be epic.
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>>377770671
Black Canary is the hottest milf.
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>>377779118
who's that artist?
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>>377784501
>that scene from JL with her and GA sparring
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>>377784501
Such a breath of fresh air from the normal garbage western developers make their female characters look like.
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Its a bitch trying to get a complete set of gear. HOW MANY BOXES DO I NEED TO OPEN BOON!?
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>>377784207
You can reset the daily cap of 5 gold boxed from the AI battle simulator, and since you the AI can fight at x4 speed, you can continually get 1-2 gold boxes every minute.
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>>377784968
Wait hold the fucking phone, how'd you manage that? Changing the system clock?
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>>377779118
It's art like this that makes me pissed that I can't get lips to look right ever.
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>>377784535
>>377785246
http://drock-xxx.tumblr.com
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So is Deadshot that strong? Or are just baddies being baddies because the based (but absolutely disgusting) SonicFox is still dominating everyone as usual?
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>>377785372
You essentially have to have perfect timing if your character doesn't have tools to counter it. Or you could just do a derpy projectile trade if you have more health.
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>>377785524
>>377785372
when has super fast low punish projectile spam ever been good for a fitan?
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>>377785524

Every character has tools to counter him. Show me one character that can't. As long as you can meter roll, you can kill him.
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>>377786376
Unless you do it ultra fast, the buffer for meter roll is obvious and isn't invincible. Unless you're close enough to get behind him with it, it's wasted meter.
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>>377786551

Use it as soon as the shooting animation ends and you're fine, it doesn't matter if you're behind him or not. You could alternatively just crouch and walk, crouch and walk til you get to him, though most characters have something to close gaps. Another thing you can try is burn meter while using a stage interaction, to either close the gap while having armor or throw something at him, again, with armor.
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>>377786772
Good thing I use Darkseid so I don't have to deal with all this horseshit. Air teleport into easy 27% rudeness ftw.
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>>377786376
Depends on you having meter
Isn't unsafe
Leaves you a little out
Deadshot is still good up close and is good at getting away

That is not a good solution. You take a risk that costs which if you fuck up he capitalises off well, just for the chance to maybe start an offence. It has more downsides than positives
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>>377774706
She really is the true villain of the series.
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>>377787091

You can literally fart and get one bar to burn. If you're hit by Deadshot once, you most likely will get enough to burn meter.
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>>377787327
>but meter will just magically appear for you, just let him shoot you!
Well that solve one point

The problem is his offence is overwhelming and strong both far and close up. While anything to deal with him has serious risks for possibly little reward.

That is not how you balance a game.
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>>377774182
>best fighting game of all time.
shit taste
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>pick the game at a local store
>come home, ready to play with my favorite superhero, Superman
>go immediately online cause I remember a little bit of his playstyle in Injustice 1 and he didn't change much
>don't like being zoner, so I go all in with my Superman in my first match, shoot laser twice in the match
>manage to win
>guy shouts at the mic "YOU FUCKER ONLY KNOW HOW TO USE LASERS, HUH! FUCK YOU"
>proceed to find next opponent
>shoot laser two or three times when he's away
>win the match
>get a message on my PS4 from the second player
>"IF YOU WANNA PLAY ZONER GO PLAY SOMETHING ELSE YOU PIECE OF SHIT"

Man, this community is on edge with the zoner thing, huh. They get triggered so fast, even if you're not spamming ranged attacks, no wonder so many people are complaining about Deadshot. First time they encounter a true zoner character (Deadshot), they freak out.
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>>377787327
That doesn't really help your case. Meter that could be used for combos or pressure is now used up just to get close, meanwhile his gunkata has built him up full bars giving him a variety of options once you get to him.
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>>377787684
Yet I can do a stupidly long grab juggle with Darkseid via meter burn yet no one cares.
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>>377787684
>using ranged attacks to win
I bet you play games on very easy pussy
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>>377787523

Look, I'm not an expert, I don't pretend to know if he's perfectly balanced for the game or not, but there are plenty of ways to deal with him, every character I tried had something that could be used against him, in my opinion.

What would be your solution for Deadshot? Have a gunslinger character not be able to control range in the fighting game? Give him more melee options, since he's terrible at melee range, and nerf his ranged damage / speed, making him a rushdown character like many others, despite the fact his name is Deadshot?

I think Firestorm is 10 times worse than Deadshot, to be quite honest. Dr. Fate could be worse as well, but no one knows how to use him so far.
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>>377787684
You should keep triggering them some more.
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>>377784501
>Black Canary and Harley Quinn's interactions before a fight
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>>377787793

And Green Lantern can literally consistently get 50% damage and remain up close making you guess high, mid, low and no one cares either.

>>377787765

ONE bar. That's all. Also, you don't need meter to make Deadshot guess where he should defend next, just keep him guessing, bait attacks etc. I'll grant you that Deadshot is probably the easiest character to play right now, but he's far from invincible. Supergirl, Darkseid, Green Lantern, Superman etc in the hands of an average guy is much more stress inducing.
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There is deadstroke Or Raven?
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>>377787828
>are plenty of ways to deal with him
You are not reading. It is not there are zero ways to deal with him, it is that those ways are more risky than positive while his options far or up close are all very good and rewarding to him.

>What would be your solution
Worse up close, a character who has great ranged attack should not be also good up close ith easy get away options. Have his options have more recovery so he actually needs to commit to options and loses out more from guessing wrong. Not have very high chip damage

Basic fighting game design solves this issue

>I think Firestorm is 10 times worse than Deadshot
That's cause you have no idea what you are on about and can't read.
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>>377788104

His options far away are good, he's a zoner after all, but what's so good about his melee range abilities / combos / attacks?
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So can we all just agree that this game would be better off without Deadshot or Dr.Fate?
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>>377788028
>ONE bar
Yes and? That still does not help your case.

>you don't need meter to make Deadshot guess where he should defend next
Options do require it though. Especially if you are playing well and managing your meter this means certain options are less available to you from using roll to get in, meanwhile he does not have that issue.

>far from invincible
no one said he is.
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>>377788064

No.

>>377788191

Yeah dude, let's remove him and add another character that relies on bashing people against the wall and doing 112+special!!! So fun!!!
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>>377788182
He has good damage, decent buttons which are safe, are easy to pressure with and can make you guess and can easily get away with moves like his knee

He is no different than an average character close up, when he should be far weaker given even a nerfed version of his zoning ability
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>>377788239
Why they didn't put at least trigon

REEEEEEEEEEEEEE

[Spoiler] let hope for DLC [/spoiler]
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Supergirl is fun and they nailed her civilian look. Superman a shit.
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>>377770671
The gameplay, like most NRS games has balance problems, but I enjoy the ideas they put forward to improve the movement and combo breaking options available.
The facial animations were also stupidly good, and the attention to detail is beyond reproach.

Harley is the best.
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>>377777847

>Its a bad fighting game.
Nah, the combos look pretty fun. It's hard to fuck up a fighting game, anyway, only FGC autists think different.

>Its a bad looking game also.
The graphics are great, and the characters have human proportions, unlike certain game made by Capcom.
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>>377775941

Nice contribution. You don't know how valuable and important your opinion is.
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>>377771683
inb4 premier skin

>>377778363
>Do you think Sonic is using Deadshot a ton to point out to the devs how retarded he is?
No, Sonic is just being his usual tier-whoring, win at all cost, self. Not even hating, but that's what he is.

>What are the changes of a nerf to Deadshot?
Approximately the same likelihood that the sun will rise in the east this morning. Knowing NRS they'll nerf him into the ground when really all they need to do is change his wrist shot so it does next to no chip damage, and maybe a few more recovery frames.

>I was gonna buy the game, but man the way how this cancer looks turned me off cuz I plan to play online a ton
Wait a month, see if the faggotry has been adjusted to levels you find acceptable.

>>377780576
So much salt, but this scrub has a point. There's nothing wrong with zoning but it's way, way, *way* too strong in this game. I try to carry a torch for NRS, but this kind of shit, and Alien in MKX make it very hard.
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>>377788896
It is a zone heavy fighting and I hate game like this. The meta is dictated by who can zone and who has the tools to go around the zoning. All the other characters who can't automatically fall to the both of the tier list.
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>>377789035
I say let the meta settle. But this is an NRS game so its not and they are going to listen to Reddit.
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It's shit because NRS can't into chip damage properly.
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>>377789421
The "meta" is play Supergirl or Darkseid or getting bodied by spam zoning. SG and DS are my mains, and don't get me wrong, I am *loving* the 14/1 W/L ratio, but the game can't survive in it's current state; for anyone trying to find their feet getting spammed out by Deadshot is going to lose it's charm pretty fast.
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>>377789718
NRS can't do a lot of things properly. I lost a lot of respect for their games after MKX @ EVO16; SonicFox was getting rekt by some literally who poo in loo, and then when it was match point, he switched to Alien and cheesed out the win.

Again, not hating on him, but the fact you even can go "well, I'm being outplayed, but not to fear, there's a character that's so hilariously broken I can't lose" means the game is poorly designed.
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Reminder that Billy was a good boy who dindu nuffing and Superman is a fucking cunt-ass childmurdering lunatic.
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>want to main commander spooky pants
>He doesn't feel right but I force it to work
>Week later. Trying new characters
>Realize I'm a Green lantern main
Feels bad
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>>377790141
Better than realising you're an Aquaman main.
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>>377772226
Marvel already did the whole "let's build a prison in another dimension so even if the villains inevitably break out of their cells they'd still be fucked with no way home". It didn't end well.

In fact, Marvel seems to love experimenting with superhuman prisons, while DC pretty much just always put them in either Belle RĂªve or Arkham. Like that antfarm prison Hank Pym built into which they shrunk down criminals and that was guarded by real ants.
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>>377790141
What's your problem with Green Lantern? He's one of my favorite superheroes. Wish he had better reach and range with his moves though, feels like he's got T-Rex arms.
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>>377790284
Don't forget the Raft, the prison under the ocean that's even in the Civil War movie.
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>>377790284
>into which they shrunk down criminals and that was guarded by real ants.
holy fuck
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>>377790297
I hate his voice in this, for one. I also hate how uncreative his moveset is. He can create constructs of anything and all his fucking specials are non constructs aside from a wall and a steel ball. There's a baseball bat and some steel beams somewhere in there, too.

Of the JL heroes he is my favorite. Or more, his concept is.
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>>377790616
I can agree that Steve Blum is a horrible Hal Jordan voice. And his moveset could be a lot better. But I still like him. Lantern Corps stuff is by far my favorite part of DC.
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>>377790616
>Of the JL heroes he is my favorite. Or more, his concept is
What concept? Space cop? Pretty elementary, if you ask me.
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There is absolutely nothing sjw about this game, at all. The women are all thick and attractive, wear tight revealing outfits and literally make sex jokes in story mode after battles (mainly cat woman and poison ivy). You people are just as bad as the sjws you hate these days.

Anyway, anyone here have tips on how to main green arrow and/or dr fate? These two seem the most comfy after darkseid to me, but i can't seem to really get a flow down with them.
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>everyone shit-talking darkseid
even with darkseid using all of 4 stock responses it's hilarious watching the likes of harley quinn and green arrow banter at the guy
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>>377791226
I always hoped Harley would say her "I love you" line to Darkseid during a clash, like she does to Ivy or Black Canary.
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>>377790752
Constructs and space cops. I also like the emotional color spectrum.
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>>377770671
The drama is so fucking forced
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>>377790739
It makes me want to use the John Stewart skin, but the John Stewart skin looks awful, and can't use the gear, And GL has some great gear.
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